Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:25:00PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: If your terminal has flow control enabled it will eat ^Q and ^S for you. stty -ixon removes this problem. But then how do you pause that long ls listing when your less,more,pg,sed,awkperl binaries are all fscked? :-) -Dom

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Philip Newton
Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:25:00PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: If your terminal has flow control enabled it will eat ^Q and ^S for you. stty -ixon removes this problem. But then how do you pause that long ls listing when your less,more,pg,sed,awkperl

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:10:13AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:25:00PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: If your terminal has flow control enabled it will eat ^Q and ^S for you. stty -ixon removes this problem. But then how do you

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:25:00PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: If your terminal has flow control enabled it will eat ^Q and ^S for you. stty -ixon removes this problem. But then how do you pause that long ls listing when your

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Philip Newton
Dominic Mitchell wrote: assuming you can get into a bourne shell, you can still do things like write cat(1) in sh, as well. This is not going to help you pause output. Although it'd be hard to control without ^S and ^Q, ...which was what the original post was all about. Cheers, Philip --

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Peter Haworth
On Thu, 10 May 2001 22:25:00 +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: (Someone has a quote about the only safe thing to send down a serial line being a break, because emacs interprets every character) You mean this? On a normal ascii line, the only safe condition to detect is a 'BREAK' - everything else

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:41:20AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: assuming you can get into a bourne shell, you can still do things like write cat(1) in sh, as well. This is not going to help you pause output. Although it'd be hard to control without ^S and ^Q,

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:41:20AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: assuming you can get into a bourne shell, you can still do things like write cat(1) in sh, as well. This is not going to help you pause output.

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:14:08AM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:41:20AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: assuming you can get into a bourne shell, you can still do things like write

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Philip Newton
Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: That breaks if the line is longer than the width of your screen. So do a lot of cheap pager routines. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 10:32 11/05/01 +0100, you wrote: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:25:00PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: If your terminal has flow control enabled it will eat ^Q and ^S for you. stty -ixon removes this problem. But then how do you pause that

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Fri, May 11, 2001 at 10:48:41AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson typed: You know, from the outside, Unix looks so well designed and clean and modern... From the outside, Windows looks as if it works. ObRant: computers and OSes in their current state are not consumer devices. They're not

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Struan Donald
* at 11/05 11:32 +0100 Roger Burton West said: On or about Fri, May 11, 2001 at 10:48:41AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson typed: You know, from the outside, Unix looks so well designed and clean and modern... From the outside, Windows looks as if it works. ObRant: computers and OSes in their

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ObRant: computers and OSes in their current state are not consumer devices. They're not sufficiently reliable or intuitive. Bad marketing has made people think they need the things; most of them are wrong... OK, so what does it take? For me, the

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:37:20AM +0100, Struan Donald typed: but then any reasonably flexible multi-purpose device is always going to have a hard time being a consumer device as by it's nature it's complex and trying to make complex things appear simple is very very hard. Yes.

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:32:33AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson typed: Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ObRant: computers and OSes in their current state are not consumer devices. They're not sufficiently reliable or intuitive. Bad marketing has made people think they need the

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 11:37 11/05/01 +0100, you wrote: but then any reasonably flexible multi-purpose device is always going to have a hard time being a consumer device as by it's nature it's complex and trying to make complex things appear simple is very very hard. I can never work out if life is getting

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Putting pretty interfaces on existing unstable systems does not help to make them simpler... That's part of it. Landing a thudding great book of what the thing _can_ do, rather than a cookbook of what you _want_ it to do is very offputting. There's

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Struan Donald
* at 11/05 11:49 +0100 Dave Hodgkinson said: Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Putting pretty interfaces on existing unstable systems does not help to make them simpler... That's part of it. Landing a thudding great book of what the thing _can_ do, rather than a cookbook of

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a very real argument for devices that do one thing and one thing only but do it in a very simple way without all the flimflam that accompanies most modern computers. Donald Norman has quite a few good books on this. Agreed, but they MUST talk

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Struan Donald
* at 11/05 12:07 +0100 Dave Hodgkinson said: Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a very real argument for devices that do one thing and one thing only but do it in a very simple way without all the flimflam that accompanies most modern computers. Donald Norman has quite a

Tie::Regex::Hash

2001-05-11 Thread Cross David - dcross
Sorry to drag us back on topic, but I thought you might like to tsee this which I just knocked up for someone on perlmonks. package Tie::Hash::Regex; use strict; use vars qw($VERSION @ISA @EXPORT @EXPORT_OK); require Exporter; require Tie::Hash; @ISA = qw(Exporter Tie::StdHash); @EXPORT =

(OT) constrained walk

2001-05-11 Thread Paul Mison
As was discussed (after Greg and the steak posse had left last night), there may be a second constrained walk (following on from the epic London Walk, somewhat documented on http://husk.org/lndn/walk/), probably around the stations above the Circle Line, sometime in the next two or three weeks.

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Chris Devers
At 10:05 AM 2001.05.11 +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:25:00PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: If your terminal has flow control enabled it will eat ^Q and ^S for you. stty -ixon removes this problem. But then how do you pause that long ls listing when your

Re: see attachment

2001-05-11 Thread Chris Devers
At 10:06 PM 2001.05.09 +0100, Grep wrote: well i had 15 minutes to spare so i decided to do this ... Lessee... Let's make a film, a travel film, involving Damien-esque programming as a plot device. We can make PIMF (Perl is my Film) tshirts to promote it, even if Randal doesn't like them. It

New Mongers' Script Archive Update

2001-05-11 Thread Mark Fowler
I am posting an update of what's going on with this to the list because, erm, dave told me to. Right, this is what has happened/will happen: At the technical meeting it was decided that we need a developers site; This site should be used primarily to disseminate information about the state

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Martin Ling
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:32:15AM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote: ObRant: computers and OSes in their current state are not consumer devices. ObRantContinuation: It goes a little further than that. Cars are now consumer devices; but if you were deploying a fleet of new company vans, you

Re: (OT) constrained walk

2001-05-11 Thread Philip Newton
Paul Mison wrote: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: all relevant MX records point to non-existent hosts: it appears that the DNS operator for this domain has installed

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 15:42 11/05/01 +0100, you wrote: It goes a little further than that. Cars are now consumer devices; but if you were deploying a fleet of new company vans, you wouldn't expect the random office guy who'd read a dummies book to maintain them - you'd hire a mechanic. Hmmm.. You're suggesting

Re: (OT) constrained walk

2001-05-11 Thread Philip Newton
Paul Mison wrote: there may be a second constrained walk What's a constrained walk? Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Re: (OT) constrained walk

2001-05-11 Thread Dean
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:17:10PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Paul Mison wrote: there may be a second constrained walk What's a constrained walk? About 5 yards. ;) Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon

Re: (OT) constrained walk

2001-05-11 Thread Paul Mison
On 11/05/2001 at 15:55 +0100, Philip Newton wrote: Paul Mison wrote: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] invalid MX record My DNS service provider (waves at the happy people, they know who they are) are endevouring to fix this at the moment. Try again on Monday when I'll put a bit more effort into fixing

Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
How many things do you have on top of your monitor? -Dom

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Martin Ling
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:05:21PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: The average bottom rung mechanic knows as much about cars as the average bottom rung tech support guy knows about computers. Okay. I know very little of the vehicle maintenance industry, so it was a poor choice of analogy,

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? monitor type=flatscreen None ;-) / Why, btw? L. This cheese intentionally left rank.

Re: (OT) constrained walk

2001-05-11 Thread Paul Mison
On 11/05/2001 at 16:17 +0100, Philip Newton wrote: Paul Mison wrote: there may be a second constrained walk What's a constrained walk? This is covered in London Walking by Simon Pope (which is where celia read about it, which prompted me and Robin to organise it); his idea was to walk from

Re: (OT) constrained walk

2001-05-11 Thread Philip Newton
Paul Mison wrote: I see you managed to subscribe anyway; I ph34r y0ur l33t 5M7P sk1llz. Thanks. They do come in handy quite often. (For example, when verifying an open relay or seeing whether it anonymises or not.) I remember the person who taught me SMTP; I'm grateful to him. (Though I

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Martin Ling
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:22:04PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Deja vu, I had this thread elsewhere recently (although it was 'things behind'...) Here I have nowt, what with it being a laptop and all. At home, er... more monitors?

Re: (OT) constrained walk

2001-05-11 Thread Chris Heathcote
on 11/5/01 4:35 pm, Paul Mison wrote: This time, the constraint is the route; we'll be trying to walk around the Circle line, either trying to follow it as closely as possible or just walking between the stations. (We're deciding that on crisps, when it works.) Has anyone got a proper

Re: (OT) constrained walk

2001-05-11 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Philip Newton wrote: Paul Mison wrote: I see you managed to subscribe anyway; I ph34r y0ur l33t 5M7P sk1llz. Thanks. They do come in handy quite often. (For example, when verifying an open relay or seeing whether it anonymises or not.) I remember the person who taught

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:33:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? monitor type=flatscreen None ;-) / Boring! You should be able to manage some clip on furry animals. For reference, I have

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Niklas Nordebo
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:22:04PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? I have a solitary copy of a japanese netsuke depicting a cat. My machine is name 'neko', which is japanese for cat. -- Niklas Nordebo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +447966251290

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Philip Newton
Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Depends on the day. Today, two things: a goose called Lucy[1] (a Ty Beanie Baby) and a green duck called Martin. Both are plush toys. I generally bring one of my small stuffed toys to work, but sometimes I forget to

Re: (OT) constrained walk

2001-05-11 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Chris Heathcote wrote: on 11/5/01 4:35 pm, Paul Mison wrote: This time, the constraint is the route; we'll be trying to walk around the Circle line, either trying to follow it as closely as possible or just walking between the stations. (We're deciding that on crisps,

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 16:31 11/05/01 +0100, you wrote: there are too many organisations (notably schools, as well as companies) pushing excessive technical responsibilities onto unqualified and inexperienced staff. That's actually a really good point (about the schools). You hear about all these 'computers for

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Philip Newton
Dominic Mitchell wrote: For reference, I have 8 Kinder egg toys, 4 of which are Giraffes. Ah. At home I also have Kinder egg toys on my monitor. Three of them to be precise. I think they're all cars. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's.

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Philip Newton
Philip Newton wrote: I generally bring one of my small stuffed toys to work ^ or my wife's. She has me than I. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the

RE: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Robert Thompson
How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Currently none. But at Torrington I had 8 items ( I think ) including marzipan models of Bagpuss (complete with Organ Mouse) and Tux. They have yet to migrate to my job. Rob

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:43:29PM +0200, Niklas Nordebo wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:22:04PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? I have a solitary copy of a japanese netsuke depicting a cat. My machine is name 'neko', which is japanese

Schroedingers Computer

2001-05-11 Thread Barbie
http://www.nature.com/nsu/010503/010503-6.html So far, demonstrations of quantum computing have been limited to the most rudimentary of calculations, involving only two or three bits of information. I'm sure Damian could them straight on that one ;-P Barbie

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Mark Fowler
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Hmm. I usually have a technic lego bike (thanks secret santa.) Also floating around in my geek sphere at the moment is: - A wind up clockwork chick (as in 'chicken,' not as in 'woman') -

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:48:40PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Philip Newton wrote: I generally bring one of my small stuffed toys to work ^ or my wife's. She has me than I. Eeek, I have more than my SO and I am wondering if in fact

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Barbie
Currently just Tux, who thankfully doesn't get used as Nerf gun target practice since leaving tw2. Barbie.

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dean
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:33:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? A dust puppy fluffy toy, a copy of Network Progamming with Perl and a flock of post it notes. monitor type=flatscreen None ;-) / monitor type=21inch deskspace=minimal /

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:59:13PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: From: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 4:22 PM How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Here - none (not sure why my mini-Tux never made it to Acxiom) At home - many things. But

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Niklas Nordebo
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:52:15PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: My machine is name 'neko', which is japanese for cat. That's cute! Do you have oneko installed to chase your mouse cursor as well? I do now :) Hadn't thought of it, of course I should have a copy of neko installed on neko.

RE: (OT) constrained walk

2001-05-11 Thread Simon Batistoni
Has anyone got a proper lundun map with tube lines indicated... that would be just chops. just posted to the crisps list, http://www.sitw.f2s.com/london/maps/geog.gif It's not a proper london map, and the resolution is terrible, but I'm sure a grafix wizard could do an overlay job

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:33:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? monitor type=flatscreen None ;-) / Boring! You should be able to manage

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Mike Wyer
Under and around my SGI flatscreen I have: SGI Tux waiyip Tux beanie-baby penguin fluffy dust-puppy wooden camel (known as YouBastard after Pratchett) fluffy santa beanie-baby monkey BB squid (it's a sex thing) fluffy octopus (aka Admiral Akbar) plush baloo Extreme Networks flag Extreme baseball

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Philip Newton wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Depends on the day. Today, two things: a goose called Lucy[1] ! L. Blessed are the cheesegraters.

Re: (OT) constrained walk

2001-05-11 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Chris Heathcote wrote: Has anyone got a proper lundun map with tube lines indicated... that would be just chops. There are machines in the tube that sell them. I have a large collection of these due to always

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: (I don't eat chocolate.) *shock* L. Do spiders make gravy...?

101 uses for an inflatable Tux

2001-05-11 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Barbie wrote: Currently just Tux, who thankfully doesn't get used as Nerf gun target practice since leaving tw2. Heh. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~siona/captions/january.html L. Cambridge Beer Festival, yadda yadda yadda.

Re: see attachment

2001-05-11 Thread Alex Page
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 10:06:52PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: well i had 15 minutes to spare so i decided to do this ... Right, so who's going to write a script that parses all of the london.pm traffic and tells us what we need to drink? Alex, what, *read* the bloody thing? -- I ask for so

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:15:56PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: (I don't eat chocolate.) *shock* It's not strictly necessary, as you still get the kinder egg toys... -Dom

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:15:56PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: (I don't eat chocolate.) *shock* So you buy them anyway and give the chocolate away... L. Can I be your new best friend?

Re: Buffy musings ...

2001-05-11 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Wed, 9 May 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: And while we are on the old films chestnut, my current recommendation is 'O Brother, where art thou?', excellent film. Oh yes. Truly fantastic. Must buy the soundtrack album. ah yes, and the soggy bottom boys' `hit' is particularly good

Re: 101 uses for an inflatable Tux

2001-05-11 Thread Martin Ling
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:18:14PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Barbie wrote: Currently just Tux, who thankfully doesn't get used as Nerf gun target practice since leaving tw2. Heh. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~siona/captions/january.html Suggestions

Fwd: YAPC::Europe reminders, and requests for help (fwd)

2001-05-11 Thread Dave Cross
FYI, Ann is one of the Y::E committee this year. Dave... Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:13:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Ann Barcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: YAPC::Europe reminders, and requests for help (fwd) You talked about giving

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Chris Benson
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:14:08AM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:41:20AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: assuming you can get into a bourne shell, you can still do things like write

Re: Schroedingers Computer

2001-05-11 Thread Robin Houston
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:55:47PM +0100, Barbie wrote: So far, demonstrations of quantum computing have been limited to the most rudimentary of calculations, involving only two or three bits of information. I'm sure Damian could them straight on that one ;-P Hmm, I think Damian's module

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Neil Ford
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:22:04PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? -Dom Zero but then things don't really sit too well on the powerbook's lcd or on the 15 lcd I've got :-) Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Er, none this is a laptop :) I did have a wooden camel on top of the old desktop machine but this is now on top of the telly. /J\

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Alex Gough
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? -Dom Time enough for a delurking... 1 Frog (green, flat, catbeaten) 1 Dinosaur (brown, with pointy horns and tail) 1 Dinosaur (those wooden skeletons (you'd not imagine the trouble I had

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Matthew Robinson
From: Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 4:51 PM Subject: RE: Monitors How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Currently none. But at Torrington I had 8 items ( I think ) including marzipan models of Bagpuss (complete with Organ Mouse) and

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:22:04PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Five CommTech Star Wars figures -- the type that have a chip with a few voice samples in their base which the reader scans plays. Some of them have defined sequences so placing

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Simon Cozens
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:22:04PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Nothing. If your monitor cost as much as mine, you'd keep it sacrosanct too. -- SM is fun. ADSM is not. Safe, Sane, Consensual... three words that cannot used to describe

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 12:46:11AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:22:04PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Nothing. If your monitor cost as much as mine, you'd keep it sacrosanct too. All this says is you don't have

Re: Schroedingers Computer

2001-05-11 Thread Steve Mynott
Barbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.nature.com/nsu/010503/010503-6.html So far, demonstrations of quantum computing have been limited to the most rudimentary of calculations, involving only two or three bits of information. I'm sure Damian could them straight on that one ;-P