Re: Enough!

2001-05-16 Thread Neil Ford
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 10:41:03PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 08:59:32PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 05:43:52PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: nokia 9210 Which is still, AFAIK, unobtainium. I know someone who knows someone who

Re: Enough!

2001-05-16 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Neil Ford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 10:41:03PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 08:59:32PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 05:43:52PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: nokia 9210 Which is still, AFAIK,

Caller ID (was Re: Enough!)

2001-05-16 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 21:08 15/05/01 +0100, you wrote: They already offer it. You can bar up to ten numbers (IIRC). I don't know how it deals with withheld numbers. Never checked. I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that you always send your CID when you make a phone call. If you choose to withhold the ID, it

Re: Enough!

2001-05-16 Thread Steve Mynott
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 08:59:32PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 05:43:52PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: nokia 9210 Which is still, AFAIK, unobtainium. I know someone who knows someone who has a test model - I'll

The scary man...

2001-05-16 Thread Dean
Some interesting stuff: http://www.perl.com/pub/2001/05/08/exegesis2.html I like the fact that hash's and arrays are going to use their own symbols for stuff like slices, should make explaining things a lot easier in the future! Dean -- But then the serpent of OO entered the garden,

Re: Caller ID (was Re: Enough!)

2001-05-16 Thread Steve Mynott
Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that you always send your CID when you make a phone call. If you choose to withhold the ID, it still gets sent, it just gets sent with a 'do not disclose' flag set, which all (BT approved) phones and

Re: The scary man...

2001-05-16 Thread Marcel Grunauer
On Wednesday, May 16, 2001, at 10:47 AM, Dean wrote: Some interesting stuff: http://www.perl.com/pub/2001/05/08/exegesis2.html Exegesis unimatrix-1: print Hello, World!\n RFC28 hard at work here! Marcel -- $x**$n + $y**$n = $z**$n is insoluble if $n 2; I have discovered a truly

RE: Latest Perl Journal

2001-05-16 Thread Cross David - dcross
From: Barbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:29 AM Dave, Loved the footnote on page 78. Thanks very much. It's one of my favourite jokes. It was trialed at a london.pm technical meeting some months ago :) Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is

Re: Caller ID (was Re: Enough!)

2001-05-16 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:59:07AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: I do keep intending to do something cute with my ISDN adapter and log the stuff coming out of the D channel and see whats in there ... but time has prevented it etc. I'd be interested to hear how you get on... I was under the

Re: Caller ID (was Re: Enough!)

2001-05-16 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:59:07AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: I do keep intending to do something cute with my ISDN adapter and log the stuff coming out of the D channel and see whats in there ... but time has prevented it etc. I'd be

Transtec Sparc Clones

2001-05-16 Thread Jonathan Peterson
I think some of the people who use this list have used Transtec's Sparc clone machines. My question is: 1. Are they any good 2. Are they _really_ identical to Sparcs at the OS level, or do you need funky drivers and non-standard BIOS / PROM settings in Solaris to work it? I just love that

A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Philip Newton
Seen in news:de.alt.sysadmin.recovery : http://www.frankwestphal.de/XPueberdieSchultergeschaut.html The poster thought it was satire; I'm not so sure. Anyway, if you understand German (or trust Babelfish), have a look at it. Enjoy! Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All

Re: Enough!

2001-05-16 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Steve Mynott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 08:59:32PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 05:43:52PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: nokia 9210 Which is still, AFAIK, unobtainium. I know

Re: streaming output

2001-05-16 Thread Philip Newton
Robert Thompson wrote: print Content-Type: application/octet-stream\n; print Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-gzip\n\n; At a guess: Content-Encoding: gzip instead. I've had a look at the relevant rfc's. Which ones? RFC 2616 (HTTP/1.1) mentions gzip not x-gzip under 3.5 Content Codings and 3.6

RE: streaming output

2001-05-16 Thread Robert Thompson
From: Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] At a guess: Content-Encoding: gzip instead. Thanks, I'll give that a try. I've had a look at the relevant rfc's. Which ones? RFC 2616 (HTTP/1.1) mentions gzip not x-gzip under 3.5 Content Codings and 3.6 Transfer Codings. I was

Re: Latest Perl Journal

2001-05-16 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:05:25AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: Loved the footnote on page 78. Thanks very much. It's one of my favourite jokes. It was trialed at a london.pm technical meeting some months ago :) What's the footnote on page 78, Dave? .robin. -- A man, a plan, a

Re: Latest Perl Journal

2001-05-16 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:19:36PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:05:25AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: Loved the footnote on page 78. Thanks very much. It's one of my favourite jokes. It was trialed at a london.pm technical meeting some months ago :)

Re: Latest Perl Journal

2001-05-16 Thread Dean
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:19:36PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: Thanks very much. It's one of my favourite jokes. It was trialed at a london.pm technical meeting some months ago :) What's the footnote on page 78, Dave? And is this a subscribers copy or one found in the wild? Dean

RE: streaming output

2001-05-16 Thread Robert Thompson
From: Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] At a guess: Content-Encoding: gzip instead. Yep that worked, thanks Rob - I must memorise rfc's I must memorise rfc's I must memorise rfc's

Re: Latest Perl Journal

2001-05-16 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:22:52PM +0100, Dean wrote: And is this a subscribers copy or one found in the wild? My copy turned up this morning, so presumably a subscribers copy. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using

Re: Latest Perl Journal

2001-05-16 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:19:36PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: What's the footnote on page 78, Dave? IAND, but... I like the fact that the new name includes the word Symbol, since it means that we can also call it The::Module::Formerly::Known::as::Sub::Approx. -- It's God. No, not Richard

Re: Caller ID (was Re: Enough!)

2001-05-16 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:59:07AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: I do keep intending to do something cute with my ISDN adapter and log the stuff coming out of the D channel and see whats in there ... but time has prevented it etc. I'd be

Re: Latest Perl Journal

2001-05-16 Thread Barbie
From: Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:19:36PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: Thanks very much. It's one of my favourite jokes. It was trialed at a london.pm technical meeting some months ago :) What's the footnote on page 78, Dave? And is this a subscribers copy or

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:37:25PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Well it isn't English, but it's *almost* comprehensible... Sounds a bit like dadadodo, only it makes more sense :) Which does? :) -- Irrigation of the land with seawater desalinated by fusion power is ancient. It's called

Re: Caller ID (was Re: Enough!)

2001-05-16 Thread Steve Mynott
Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 16 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:59:07AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: I do keep intending to do something cute with my ISDN adapter and log the stuff coming out of the D channel and see whats in there

RE: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Robert Thompson
From: Robin Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Do you think it's possible to take XP too far? *Too* extreme? Sure it is. Having two people look at/develop a piece of code is better than one. Therefore having three people must be even better. But why stop there - why not four, five,

Re: Caller ID (was Re: Enough!)

2001-05-16 Thread Philip Newton
Steve Mynott wrote: I have heard of people using the D channel signalling to communicate for free. I've also heard of phone companies cursing such users and trying to ban programs that support that. At least in Germany, there was a program (or several?) that took advantage of the fact that

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Barbie
From: Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 16 May 2001, Barbie wrote: sysadmin, being the shortsighted Solaris guru that he claims he is, has deemed outgoing and ingoing ports that aren't for HTTP, FTP be blocked :( dare I enquire how you sent this mail, then? :) Oh yeah and

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:08:40PM +0100, Robert Thompson wrote: Having two people look at/develop a piece of code is better than one. Therefore having three people must be even better. But why stop there - why not four, five, six . . . Better yet - design/develop by committee! You've hit

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread James Powell
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:27:19PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:08:40PM +0100, Robert Thompson wrote: Having two people look at/develop a piece of code is better than one. Therefore having three people must be even better. But why stop there - why not four, five,

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread AEF
On Wed, 16 May 2001, James Powell wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:27:19PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: You've hit the fundamental problem with XP. Getting anything done requires two programmers to agree on something; this, as everyone knows, is impossible. No it isn't! You're right;

Re: Transtec Sparc Clones

2001-05-16 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Steve Mynott wrote: Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think some of the people who use this list have used Transtec's Sparc clone machines. My question is: sure I can't tempt you with a tadpole? http://www.tadpole.com/cycle/index.htm the laptop is

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Struan Donald
* at 16/05 15:22 +0100 Simon Cozens said: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:41:58PM +0100, James Powell wrote: You've hit the fundamental problem with XP. Getting anything done requires two programmers to agree on something; this, as everyone knows, is impossible. No it isn't! That's

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Philip Newton
Simon Cozens wrote: That's not argument, it's just contradiction! I'm sorry; I'm not allowed to argue with you unless you've paid. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 04:31:18PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Simon Cozens wrote: That's not argument, it's just contradiction! I'm sorry; I'm not allowed to argue with you unless you've paid. Ah, you going into consulting as well, eh? -- The elder gods went to Suggoth and all I

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Chris Devers
At 03:22 PM 2001.05.16 +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: That's not argument, it's just contradiction! Ahh, you must be looking for a different forum then. Try Castro's site. ;) -- Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Robert Shiels
[snip] Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/ ... 640K ought to be enough for anybody ...is that dollars or pounds... /Robert

Dell asset numbers ..

2001-05-16 Thread Robin Szemeti
does anyone happen to know if you can discover the asset number of a Dell poweredge swerver remotely? apparenlty its 'in the bios' .. how useful. [ I need to order a part .. Dell needs an asset tag number .. the swerver is in mailbox .. I'm 200 miles away .. ] -- Robin Szemeti Redpoint

Re: Dell asset numbers ..

2001-05-16 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 16:39 16/05/01 +0100, you wrote: does anyone happen to know if you can discover the asset number of a Dell poweredge swerver remotely? apparenlty its 'in the bios' .. how useful. It should also be on a silvery sticker on the back of the machine somewhere with the barcodes. You could try

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Philip Newton
Robert Shiels wrote: Leon ... 640K ought to be enough for anybody ...is that dollars or pounds... Turkish lire? Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Buffy ...

2001-05-16 Thread Robin Szemeti
http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51586918 -- Robin Szemeti Redpoint Consulting Limited Real Solutions For A Virtual World

Re: Buffy ...

2001-05-16 Thread Dean
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 05:08:17PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51586918 The economy took another downturn today as the few remaining London based dot-coms utilized the last of their ever diminishing budgets in an attempt to procure an item that would

Re: Buffy ..

2001-05-16 Thread Andy Williams
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote: http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51586918 Tempting very tempting. I bet the price goes up quite quickly now Andy

RE: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Cross David - dcross
From: Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:52 PM At 03:22 PM 2001.05.16 +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: That's not argument, it's just contradiction! Ahh, you must be looking for a different forum then. Try Castro's site. ;) Sorry, this is 'senseless abuse'. --

Re: Buffy ..

2001-05-16 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 12:31 16/05/01 -0400, you wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote: http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51586918 The seller seems to do quite a trade in signed photos. The last SMG one: Sultry Buffy Vampire Slayer SARAH MICHELLE GELLAR Signed 8x10 Photo With COA went

[gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]

2001-05-16 Thread Leon Brocard
Coo, coo, see the fabled perl6, remark how it looks just like perl5, wonder if anything's different and if there's a point to all this ;-) - Forwarded message from Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2 To:

Re: The scary man...

2001-05-16 Thread Damian Conway
Exegesis unimatrix-1: print Hello, World!\n RFC28 hard at work here! Great minds thinking in parallel there, Marcel. My first draft of Ex2 started like this: Here's the very first Perl 6 program ever written: #! /usr/local/bin/perl6 --warnings

Python beats perl to dia plugin..

2001-05-16 Thread Aaron Trevena
*grump* There is a python plugin to Gnome Dia allowing you to write scripts for dia. I don't know if it is like GIMPS scripting or more of a macro type thing but its a little disapointing there isn't a perl one. Dia 0.88 has an experiemental pyhton plugin capability. I would be interested in

Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]

2001-05-16 Thread Nathan Torkington
Leon Brocard writes: Coo, coo, see the fabled perl6, remark how it looks just like perl5, wonder if anything's different and if there's a point to all this ;-) Jihad on Leon, anyone? :-) perl6 is supposed to look a lot like perl5. If it didn't, we'd call it Python or something like that.

Re: Python beats perl to dia plugin..

2001-05-16 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Aaron Trevena wrote: Anyone know much about how the GIMP script -fu stuff works on the inside, http://people.delphi.com/gjc/siod.html AIUI all that the gimp crew have done is to write an extension to SIOD in C to give access to the Gimp API. No doubt you could do the

Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]

2001-05-16 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Coo, coo, see the fabled perl6, remark how it looks just like perl5, wonder if anything's different and if there's a point to all this ;-) Blasphemy ahead .. I don't think Perl 6 can be a tremendous leap forward, not because of RFC's along the

Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]

2001-05-16 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:06:22PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: And just to complete my final blasphemy, Visual Basic, may have a shit language behind it, it may have performance problems, it may be very limited and may force you to implement the guts as of any serious program you write as