Re: Buffy ...
At 17:20 16/05/2001, Dean wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 05:08:17PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51586918 The economy took another downturn today as the few remaining London based dot-coms utilized the last of their ever diminishing budgets in an attempt to procure an item that would see off the vampire ^Hventure capitalists. One of the companies to survive todays spending spree was MagSol, the founder Dave was heard to say Willows better. pedant type=grammar? Actually, I'd say Willow's better. /pedant Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
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TPC Quiz Team
I need three volunteers to join me in the london.pm team for Jon Orwant's Internet Quiz at The Perl Conference. This is our big chance to get revenge for the injustices of last year. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: I don't think Perl 6 can be a tremendous leap forward, not because of RFC's along the lines of `Perl must stay Perl', but because the next leap forward is VisualPerl which will be as much about IDE as core language. Now lets not get hung up on the IDE bit of that statement, its more about how people build programs than the interface they use, the IDE merely focuses them towards a certain methodology of building software. Greg, I was wondering if you've used Glade with Perl. I think it's everything that VisualBasic is. It allows you very simple access to the vast range of really complex components and provides very simple access to the code both via generated 'only edit me if you know what you're doing' code and 'ignore the rest of the program and just write what you want me to do when you click here' callbacks. This of course comes with all the advantages and disadvantages of such an approach. It's very easy and quick to build a GUI that functions well and stops you making so many GUI bloopers, but it's a very fixed approach that doesn't lend itself to too much dynamic GUI creation. Later. Mark. -- perl is my itch (Simon, did you recently do an advertising campaign for divorce laywers?)
Re: TPC Quiz Team
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: I need three volunteers to join me in the london.pm team for Jon Orwant's Internet Quiz at The Perl Conference. Does it have questions on Buffy and drinking competitions? Later Mark. -- The use of the beer glass image in association with the Perl language is a trademark of the London Perl Mongers.
RE: TPC Quiz Team
From: Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:24 AM On Thu, 17 May 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: I need three volunteers to join me in the london.pm team for Jon Orwant's Internet Quiz at The Perl Conference. Does it have questions on Buffy and drinking competitions? Well it hasn't so far, but it's all down to the whim of the quizmaster. For new readers, we were just beaten into second place last year as none of us knew the name of Bill Clinton's dog[1]. -- The use of the beer glass image in association with the Perl language is a trademark of the London Perl Mongers. Having read Nat's article in the new TPJ, I think we should also have: The use of Buffy the Vampiure Slayer in association with the Perl language is a trademark of the London Perl Mongers Dave... [1] Note to self: find out if Dubya has any pets. -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: e-mail
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: Hi, due to some BT/ADSL fun and games last night i managed to bounce almost every message that was directed to me, so if you mailed me about something important please resend it. Did you get my post? .. here it is again: Greg .. I just had a call from a freind of mine who tells me the Bank Of England are having a bit of a clear out tonight, apparently they need the storage space and are giving away lots of old money (£20 notes mainly) just to make room for new stuff .. the down side is you have to take a least 1 wheelbarrow. Its only tonight though so get down there. hope its not too late. -- Robin Szemeti Redpoint Consulting Limited Real Solutions For A Virtual World
Re: TPC Quiz Team
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 09:17:04AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: I need three volunteers to join me in the london.pm team for Jon Orwant's Internet Quiz at The Perl Conference. This is our big chance to get revenge for the injustices of last year. I'll help. Mike Stok and I between managed to answer about all of them except that stoopid Buddy one. Paul, should probably get a ticket now
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Coo, coo, see the fabled perl6, remark how it looks just like perl5, wonder if anything's different and if there's a point to all this ;-) Blasphemy ahead .. I don't think Perl 6 can be a tremendous leap forward, not because of RFC's along the lines of `Perl must stay Perl', but because the next leap forward is VisualPerl which will be as much about IDE as core language. Now lets not get hung up on the IDE bit of that statement, its more about how people build programs than the interface they use, the IDE merely focuses them towards a certain methodology of building software. And just to complete my final blasphemy, Visual Basic, may have a shit language behind it, it may have performance problems, it may be very limited and may force you to implement the guts as of any serious program you write as C/C++ DLLs but is still the most impressive implementation of a programming language/dialect that I have ever seen, barring one or two domain specific languages, such as the visualisation software which I have forgotten the name of. I tried to use VB once. I kept thinking Why isn't this as good as Interface Builder is on NeXTSTEP? Actually, I find myself thinking that when I use almost any IDE... -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:06:22PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: And just to complete my final blasphemy, Visual Basic, may have a shit language behind it, it may have performance problems, it may be very limited and may force you to implement the guts as of any serious program you write as C/C++ DLLs but is still the most impressive implementation of a programming language/dialect that I have ever seen, You clearly haven't used Delphi. It is *streets* ahead of VB. Not only that they provide source to their components. Not only that, Object Pascal is possibly one of the best practical OO languages in existence. Their component model just rocks. And their editor is fantastic. Delphi rules. Still not as good Interface Builder + Objective C + AppKit + NeXTSTEP... -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com
test
just a test -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:06:22PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: of RFC's along the lines of `Perl must stay Perl', but because the next leap forward is VisualPerl which will be as much about IDE as core language. Now lets not get hung up on the IDE bit of that statement So, let me get this right - you want to discuss something which is equal value IDE and core language, without discussing the IDE, yes? :) Yip, i want to discuss the line down the middle between the IDE and the Language/Engine. The original post meant to state that the only way Perl could leap forward in a way that would shock/surprise people would be to significantly change the way people worked with the language. Object orientation was one such shift, Visual Basic/Delphi was another such shift (and i'm not just talking about the GUI builder bit). In fact high level languages with text editors is another. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
* Nathan Torkington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg McCarroll writes: I don't think Perl 6 can be a tremendous leap forward, not because of RFC's along the lines of `Perl must stay Perl', but because the next leap forward is VisualPerl which will be as much about IDE as core language. Now lets not get hung up on the IDE bit of that statement, its more about how people build programs than the interface they use, the IDE merely focuses them towards a certain methodology of building software. Are you drunk, McCarroll, or just smoking crack? :-) Me drink?, and my point was about what would shock/surprise the masses with Perl 6, but as we've started down the visual component crack smoking road lets continue It's a wonderful fantasy, but the only type of problem I solve that could fit that approach are those tedious CGI+database CRUD things. I see it more for data munging and small tools. I also think its got potential for allowing the unwashed masses to build their data munging / general tools without knowing too much Perl. Everything else requires original thought and invention, and Sure and if it can be reused, implement it as a component so it can later be snapped together by someone who will never appreciate it. I'll chew my left nut off before I believe that the fantasy of assembly-line software allows for that. Can we hold you to that? It would give us a good name for the project gnat = gnat needs another testicle ;-) the most impressive implementation of a programming language/dialect that I have ever seen It may be a steamy sweaty pile of diarrhoea, but it's an IMPRESSIVE steamy sweaty pile of diarrhoea. Greg p.s. I have never used Delphi. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Enough!
Simon Cozens wrote: One of the things I plan to do on my way around America after TPC is sit down with Kevin and DHD and start writing some funky robots. sphinx + infobot + reefknot + festival -- why hire a secretary when you can write one? :) I've been meaning to have a crack at hooking together Asterisk (OpenSource, http://www.asteriskpbx.com/main/), Festival (Speech Synthesis, http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/), Sphinx (OS, speech recognition, http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/sphinx/), Perl and one of the info bots/POE for a couple fo years now. I've just never had the time :( Fairly easy to write your own 'Wildfire'-esque system with this. Hook it into Mister House (open source home automation program, http://misterhouse.net/) and you could do some really funky things by just phoning up your house [ring ring, ring ring] Dipsy : hello Simon : I need an exit Errr, I'll just get me coat shall I?
Re: They are all vampires!
* Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: http://members.netscapeonline.co.uk/antibetdesign/vampires.htm Lots of work for the Buffster to do, i'm sure Buffy will have to wrestle with Scully to slay her - perhaps in a vat of jello ;-). (via popbitch), Leon Sure Leon, we believe you got it via popbitch and you don't spend your days mindlessly surfing the web for Vampire pr0n ;-). -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
pc components
Does anyone have a recommendation for an online provider of PC components, i'm looking for a couple of big hard drives (50Gb+). -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Enough!
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 10:27:47AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Fairly easy to write your own 'Wildfire'-esque system with this. Hook it into Mister House (open source home automation program, http://misterhouse.net/) and you could do some really funky things by just phoning up your house Mandrake has already done this, I think. [ring ring, ring ring] Dipsy : hello ^ YM Operator. :) Simon : I need an exit -- Chomsky is COBOL -- Sean Burke
Re: pc components
On or about Thu, May 17, 2001 at 10:57:23AM +0100, Greg McCarroll typed: Does anyone have a recommendation for an online provider of PC components, i'm looking for a couple of big hard drives (50Gb+). I've had success with DABS - just make sure the thing's in stock before ordering. Roger
Re: pc components
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 10:57:23AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
Does anyone have a recommendation for an online provider of PC components,
i'm looking for a couple of big hard drives (50Gb+).
Dabs.com is fine. Scan.co.uk has great deals, but if you get some kind of
after-sales it seems you're one of the lucky few. I've got multiple orders
from both with no probs, but heard many Stories Of Badness about both, too.
~C.
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Re: pc components
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Thu, May 17, 2001 at 10:57:23AM +0100, Greg McCarroll typed: Does anyone have a recommendation for an online provider of PC components, i'm looking for a couple of big hard drives (50Gb+). I've had success with DABS - just make sure the thing's in stock before ordering. When I last ordered a HDD from Dabs, they mailed me a couple of days later to say that it wasn't in stock (there website said it was). However, ordering the same thing from http://www.simply.co.uk/ worked. I need to buy a new ATAPI CDROM drive today (my old one won't read CDRs). Is there anything choose between different models, or do I just get any old one? Tony
Re: pc components
Greg McCarroll wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation for an online provider of PC components, i'm looking for a couple of big hard drives (50Gb+). -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net www.scan.co.uk paul -- Paul Sharpe Tel: +44 (20) 7407 5557 Miraclefish Ltd. Fax: +44 (20) 7378 8711 Studio 12 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 37 Tanner Street http://www.miraclefish.com/ London SE1 3LF UNITED KINGDOM
Re: pc components
On Thu, 17 May 2001, AEF wrote: later to say that it wasn't in stock (there website said it was). However, ^ Ugh! I can't believe I did that... Tony
Re: streaming output
From: Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] At a guess: Content-Encoding: gzip instead. Yep that worked, According to RFC2616 Content-Encoding: x-gzip should have worked as well: Use of program names for the identification of encoding formats is not desirable and is discouraged for future encodings. Their use here is representative of historical practice, not good design. For compatibility with previous implementations of HTTP, applications SHOULD consider x-gzip and x-compress to be equivalent to gzip and compress respectively. http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec3.html#sec3.5 Dave.
Re: T-Shirts
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...and then sunny Birmingham .. You must have been dreaming! Barbie, currently sitting in a high-rise office block in rainy Brum.
Re: T-Shirts
Barbie wrote: ...and then sunny Birmingham .. You must have been dreaming! I was stuck in the Chamberlain hotel on Broad Street. I wanted to go out for a walk and go to a bar and a restaurant (rather than being stuck in the hotel ones) but it was absolutley pissing it down with rain so I just stayed inside and sulked and ran up expenses. I actually meant to give you a bell and ask if you wanted to go for a swift pint but I was only told I was going on Monday night and I didn't have email access where I was on site (the glamourous Small Heath business park)
Re: test
Greg McCarroll wrote: just a test Sorry, didn't arrive in Germany. You have some kind of UK only filter on these things? Please sent it again, with the filter turned off. Cheers, Philip (feeling testy) -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: e-mail
Greg McCarroll wrote: talking of old money did you know that about 92%[1] of used fifty pound notes have traces of cocaine on them? Probably from the crack-snorting scientists who test them. [1] i couldnt remember the exact figure, but it was high, so 92% sounded good. Did you know that 18% of all statistics are completely made up out of raw cloth, and 57.384% of all statistics claim unwarranted precision in their figures? Cheers, Philip (who notes that there's a German saying don't trust any statistic that you didn't forge yourself) -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: Buffy ...
Robin Szemeti wrote: http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51586918 Yum. Pricey, though. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
Paul Makepeace wrote: The - to . conversion [...] will be a wonderful thing. To be honest, I never understood the point of that conversion. Is it an attempt to make Perl look more like VB? Or like Java? Or trying to save keystrokes? Simplify the lexer? The array seemed fine to me the way it was. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: pc components
From: Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] On or about Thu, May 17, 2001 at 10:57:23AM +0100, Greg McCarroll typed: Does anyone have a recommendation for an online provider of PC components, i'm looking for a couple of big hard drives (50Gb+). I've had success with DABS - just make sure the thing's in stock before ordering. I ordered something from dabs recently, it was in stock before the order, and mysteriously not in stock afterwards. I cancelled the order. I'd probably check online, and phone them just to make sure they really have it. /Robert
RE: Buffy ...
From: Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:57 AM Robin Szemeti wrote: http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51586918 Yum. Pricey, though. Oh, I don't know. It's not _that_ expensive. I may have another look just before it closes tomorrow morning. If it's less than £30 I may buy. Might make a nice donation to a YAPC::Europe raffle or something... Oh, and there's a picture of the whole cast, just signed by SMG tho' at http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51612812. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Shoot out
Hi, Have you seen http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/ ? My pike loving friend was amused to see Perl and Python trounced. But the testing rig was written in Perl at least. Cheers -- Merijn Broeren | Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavour of life, Software Geek | take big bites. Moderation is for monks. |
Re: Shoot out
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 01:19:27PM +0200, Merijn Broeren wrote: Have you seen http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/ ? My pike loving friend was amused to see Perl and Python trounced. But the testing rig was written in Perl at least. His perl isn't necessarily the fastest in all cases. I sped some of his scripts up quite significantly - enough to move it back up above Python anyway ;) It's all quite interesting. Tony -- -- Tony Bowden | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.tmtm.com/ make me laugh make me cry enrage me don't try to disengage me -- PGP signature
Re: Shoot out
Quoting Tony Bowden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): His perl isn't necessarily the fastest in all cases. I sped some of his scripts up quite significantly - enough to move it back up above Python anyway ;) I was looking at the attributions page and saw only your name. I was kind of expecting the rabid hordes of london.pm speedfreaks would like to have a go, but you were already there, I should have known you were a lnpm'er ;-) It's all quite interesting. Indeed. I thought the functional languages would do much better when weighing the mathematical stuff higher, but there was almost no change. Cheers, -- Merijn Broeren | Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavour of life, Software Geek | take big bites. Moderation is for monks. |
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 01:26:17AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: I tried to use VB once. I kept thinking Why isn't this as good as Interface Builder is on NeXTSTEP? Actually, I find myself thinking that when I use almost any IDE... Heh. Same here, although if you discount Interface Builder, VB is very good indeed. I haven't done enough Delphi work to be qualified to talk about their interface, but first impressions were good. I like to think of VB and Java as doing the same sort of job. They're very good for the pretty interface bits, but need a Real Language to do the real work - C for VB, perl/python/C for Java. I was, however, thoroughly infuriated by Interface Builder on Mac OS X. It is not at all obvious how it should work with Project Builder. I am, however, more infuriated by OS X itself, and its updates which break everything. Grumble. Mutter. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david If a job's worth doing, it's worth dieing for
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
Now I'm not buying into the argument on either side, but it does remind me of a lovely quote by Australian programming legend Alan Kennington: Eiffel is some sort of avant-garde French computing movement which believes that programming is reactionary and oppressive. Instead, they see the future of computing as lying in broad strokes of the mouse to communicate the software developer's creative desires. The Eiffel system then writes a program for the computing artist. As is typical of French ideas, Eiffel appeals to those sections of the middle class eho can't remember what work was like, and don't particularly want to be reminded. ;-) Damian
[OT] Cordelia (was Re: They are all vampires!)
Speaking of vampires, you've got a treat coming up with Angel. After the exploitative tv show there was a lull of a week, and then ... Boobapalooza! You boys will be capturing plenty of stills from the season-ending shows. Think Princess Leia only funny and jaw-droppingly gorgeous. Nat
RE: TPC Quiz Team
Cross David - dcross writes: Having read Nat's article in the new TPJ, I think we should also have: The use of Buffy the Vampiure Slayer in association with the Perl language is a trademark of the London Perl Mongers It's been so long, I have to ask: what was my article in the most recent TPJ? :-) Nat
Re: pc components
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:03:35AM +0100, AEF wrote: When I last ordered a HDD from Dabs, they mailed me a couple of days later to say that it wasn't in stock (there website said it was). My motherboard from Dabs has spent two days awaiting credit card clearance and two days awaiting despatch. It *is* in stock, it's just taking them four days - and counting - to get around to shipping it. Simply aren't much better. Took them three weeks to get stuff in stock. -- but I'm one guy working weekends - what the hell is MS's excuse? We don't care, we don't have to, we're the phone company. - Ben Jemmet, Paul Tomblin.
Re: Buffy ...
Cross David - dcross wrote: Oh, and there's a picture of the whole cast, just signed by SMG tho' at http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51612812. I suppose at this point, grep will wonder why the Bufster uses her fake name when signing pictures. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
RE: Buffy ...
From: Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Cross David - dcross wrote: Oh, and there's a picture of the whole cast, just signed by SMG tho' at http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51612812. I suppose at this point, grep will wonder why the Bufster uses her fake name when signing pictures. To maintain the illusion --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of IBNet Plc. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
Re: pc components
-Original Message- From: Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] My motherboard from Dabs has spent two days awaiting credit card clearance and two days awaiting despatch. It *is* in stock, it's just taking them four days - and counting - to get around to shipping it. If your in London then forget mail order and go to TCR on a Saturday, you get to take home what you pay for and with the drop in spending lately its getting easier to haggle the price down. And afterwards you can come to one of the almost weekly geek meets in a nearby pub. Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand. --- Anon
Re: pc components
Thinking of big hard drives... http://www.dabs.com/products/compare.asp?action=selectedprodtype=14 Nice feature. Bugger I bought a 41.1Gb IBM Deskstar the other month from Dabs and now they've drop their price by £25. Barbie
Re: pc components
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:01:11AM +0100, Chris Ball wrote:
find / -name *your_base* -exec chown us:us {} \;
If I had a penny for every variation on this sig I'd seen, I'd... er,
well, I might have a cheap Mars bar. But still.
Martin
Re: pc components
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 02:36:58PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:01:11AM +0100, Chris Ball wrote:
find / -name *your_base* -exec chown us:us {} \;
If I had a penny for every variation on this sig I'd seen, I'd... er,
well, I might have a cheap Mars bar. But still.
*mumble* xargs(1) *mumble*
-Dom
Re: Buffy ...
* Philip Newton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Cross David - dcross wrote: Oh, and there's a picture of the whole cast, just signed by SMG tho' at http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51612812. I suppose at this point, grep will wonder why the Bufster uses her fake name when signing pictures. Well you don't see pictures of the Duke signed Marion Robert Morrison. So why should this budding young actress and slayer sign things Buffy. Sheesh, some people ;-) -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: pc components
* Dean S Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: -Original Message- From: Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] My motherboard from Dabs has spent two days awaiting credit card clearance and two days awaiting despatch. It *is* in stock, it's just taking them four days - and counting - to get around to shipping it. If your in London then forget mail order and go to TCR on a Saturday, you get to take home what you pay for and with the drop in spending lately its getting easier to haggle the price down. And afterwards you can come to one of the almost weekly geek meets in a nearby pub. I quote like the dabs site and will probably end up using them, unless i find some nice shiny hardware shops in new yourk this weekend. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: pc components
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Simon Cozens wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:03:35AM +0100, AEF wrote: When I last ordered a HDD from Dabs, they mailed me a couple of days later to say that it wasn't in stock (there website said it was). My motherboard from Dabs has spent two days awaiting credit card clearance and two days awaiting despatch. It *is* in stock, it's just taking them four days - and counting - to get around to shipping it. Simply aren't much better. Took them three weeks to get stuff in stock. Simply have a habit of sending me things in a really big brown paper bag, and while I quite like the Santaesque overtones, I'd prefer to see things nicely wrapped so I don't receive more (albeit smaller) items than I'd ordered. Dabs are fine, but their shop lies.
Re: pc components
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Alex Gough wrote: Simply have a habit of sending me things in a really big brown paper bag, Simply sent my HDD in a big brown box. Which was in a really big brown paper bag. Tony
Re: Shoot out
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 01:19:27PM +0200, Merijn Broeren wrote: My pike loving friend was amused to see Perl and Python trounced. But the testing rig was written in Perl at least. I was astounded by the performance of Ocaml. Being forced by an insane lecturer to debug an obfuscated Ocaml program when I was a student rather put me off the language. (And _boy_ can you write obfuscated Ocaml programs if you try! User-definable infix operators are an especially nice touch in that regard) Why isn't Ocaml more popular? Is there a good reason? .robin. -- Sometimes I sit in front of my washing machine and contemplate the worthlessness of life. My washing machine isn't even plugged in. --alex
Re: Shoot out
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:04:47PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: Statement: (And _boy_ can you write obfuscated Ocaml programs if you try! User-definable infix operators are an especially nice touch in that regard) Answer: Why isn't Ocaml more popular? Is there a good reason? -Dom
Re: Shoot out
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:06:45PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:04:47PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: Statement: (And _boy_ can you write obfuscated Ocaml programs if you try! User-definable infix operators are an especially nice touch in that regard) Answer: Why isn't Ocaml more popular? Is there a good reason? :-) I don't find that enormously convincing as a reason, though. You may have noticed that it's possible to write obfuscated Perl programs ;) C++ is also pretty bad in that respect (I still don't *quite* believe that overloadable typecasting isn't a joke...), and is pretty popular... I suppose one reason is that in order to be popular, a language has to syntactically resemble C to make it easier for existing programmers to learn. .robin. -- It really depends on the architraves. --Harl
Re: Shoot out
* Robin Houston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 01:19:27PM +0200, Merijn Broeren wrote: My pike loving friend was amused to see Perl and Python trounced. But the testing rig was written in Perl at least. I was astounded by the performance of Ocaml. But the question is, are they generating C code from Ocaml code and compiling it, this would explain the performance. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Shoot out
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:12:58PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: I don't find that enormously convincing as a reason, though. You may have noticed that it's possible to write obfuscated Perl programs ;) No, I've only over seen pleasant, readable perl code posted to this list. C++ is also pretty bad in that respect (I still don't *quite* believe that overloadable typecasting isn't a joke...), and is pretty popular... I didn't realise that you could overload typecasting. Wow. I still remember an article about C++ templating being a turing complete language in it's own right or something weird. This isn't it, but is entertaining anyway: http://www.annexia.org/freeware/cpptemplates/ I suppose one reason is that in order to be popular, a language has to syntactically resemble C to make it easier for existing programmers to learn. Well, look what that did for Java. And look what it will do for C#. It's a lot easier to tempt people away when it takes less effort for them. To use the canonical counter-example, take lisp. How many people have been scared off it by how much it *doesn't* look like anything you already knew? -Dom (elisp's my limit, I'm afraid)
Re: pc components
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 02:41:06PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
find / -name *your_base* -exec chown us:us {} \;
If I had a penny for every variation on this sig I'd seen, I'd... er,
well, I might have a cheap Mars bar. But still.
*mumble* xargs(1) *mumble*
find / -user you -name base -print | xargs chown us:us
is one of the more popular ones.
I haven't seen a really good one for SOMEBODY SET UP US THE BOMB yet.
apt-get install the-bomb doesn't qualify.
Martin
Re: Shoot out
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:20:08PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: I still remember an article about C++ templating being a turing complete language in it's own right or something weird. This isn't it, but is entertaining anyway: http://www.annexia.org/freeware/cpptemplates/ And if you don't want to do things in C++: http://www.apache.org/~fanf/list.h :) The guy is a nutcase. Oh well, he's only won one IOCCC. :) MBM
Re: pc components
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:25:22PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: I haven't seen a really good one for SOMEBODY SET UP US THE BOMB yet. apt-get install the-bomb doesn't qualify. dpkg --configure ? -- I don't think so, said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished.
Re: pc components
At 14:48 17/05/01 +0100, you wrote: If your in London then forget mail order and go to TCR on a Saturday, you get to take home what you pay for and with the drop in spending lately its getting easier to haggle the price down. Are you refering to the 'computer fair' or just TCR in general? Also, if any London person is unaware of it, the shop CEX (Computer EXchange) on TCR (just north of Goddge St Stn) sells excellent 2nd hand hardware, are very knowledgeable, will accept returns with no hassle, and have never let me down etc etc etc. And they sell 2nd hand software too, esp. MS development stuff. -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pc components
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:32:03PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: apt-get install the-bomb doesn't qualify. dpkg --configure ? *laughs out loud in the middle of easyEverything* Nice one. :-) ~C. -- Chris Ball. [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://printf.net/ finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I must not edit articles with vi. I must not editarticles with thvi. I must not editarticles with vi. I must not editarticles with thvi. jI must not editarticles with vi:wq:wq1
Re: pc components
- Original Message -
From: Martin Ling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: pc components
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 02:41:06PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
find / -name *your_base* -exec chown us:us {} \;
If I had a penny for every variation on this sig I'd seen, I'd... er,
well, I might have a cheap Mars bar. But still.
*mumble* xargs(1) *mumble*
find / -user you -name base -print | xargs chown us:us
is one of the more popular ones.
I haven't seen a really good one for SOMEBODY SET UP US THE BOMB yet.
apt-get install the-bomb doesn't qualify.
rm -f zig
?
:-)
Re: Shoot out
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Merijn Broeren wrote:
Quoting Tony Bowden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
His perl isn't necessarily the fastest in all cases. I sped some of his
scripts up quite significantly - enough to move it back up above Python
anyway ;)
I was looking at the attributions page and saw only your name. I was
kind of expecting the rabid hordes of london.pm speedfreaks would like
to have a go, but you were already there, I should have known you were a
lnpm'er ;-)
heh! ..I just took 30% off his object_instantiation .. thats quite
heavily weighted in the results and inherited into other tests so that
should move perl up a bit.
weirdly .. one thing I tried 'hmm no explicit DESTROY sub,... hmm I
wonder if it spends time searching for one .. I'll make a sub DESTROY { }
and see if it speeds it up ..' nope 40% slower overall ...
--
Robin Szemeti
Redpoint Consulting Limited
Real Solutions For A Virtual World
Re: Shoot out
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:28:13PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: But the question is, are they generating C code from Ocaml code and compiling it, I don't think so. I think the Ocaml compiler compiles directly to machine code. But what difference does it make, ultimately? this would explain the performance. It might help to explain why it's faster than interpreted languages. But C++ is a compiled language too, and Ocaml seemed to be consistently faster than C++ in those benchmarks. I don't think the picture is so simple any more, anyway. Optimising JITs seem to be catching up... .robin. -- Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas!
Re: TPC Quiz Team
On Thu, 17 May 2001 09:17:04 +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: I need three volunteers to join me in the london.pm team for Jon Orwant's Internet Quiz at The Perl Conference. Count me in! This is our big chance to get revenge for the injustices of last year. I'm finding it more annoying now because I've managed to convince myself that the same question was asked the previous year. [1] Note to self: find out if Dubya has any pets. ... whose name he's used in an Internet context. Come to think of it, if Buddy was the password, how come we all know what it is (now, at least). Aren't passwords supposed to be secret? -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] The boy stood on the burning deck Whence all but he had fled - Twit. -- Spike Milligan
Re: pc components
-Original Message- From: Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 14:48 17/05/01 +0100, Dean wrote: If your in London then forget mail order and go to TCR on a Saturday, you get to take home what you pay for and with the drop in spending lately its getting easier to haggle the price down. Are you refering to the 'computer fair' or just TCR in general? Both to a degree. From the shops I've been in recently it seems that they are more willing to drop the price a bit than see you go to one of the fairs. For once the consumers the winner. The fairs do a more mixed selection of stuff than the shops do, where you go depends on what your looking for. Also, if any London person is unaware of it, the shop CEX (Computer EXchange) on TCR (just north of Goddge St Stn) sells excellent 2nd hand hardware, are very knowledgeable, will accept returns with no hassle, and have never let me down etc etc etc. And they do a nice selection of cheep DVD's. Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand. --- Anon
Re: pc components
- Original Message - From: Dean S Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:51 AM Subject: Re: pc components If your in London then forget mail order and go to TCR on a Saturday, you get to take home what you pay for and with the drop in spending lately its getting easier to haggle the price down. Are you refering to the 'computer fair' or just TCR in general? Both to a degree. From the shops I've been in recently it seems that they are more willing to drop the price a bit than see you go to one of the fairs. For once the consumers the winner. I got a 30Gig 7200 RPM (Samsung I think) disk for £95 at the fairs. Works like a dream. The Geek meet afterwards in a nearby watering hole is good fun too. Apparently it is Craig 'Red Dwarf' Charles's regular and he was there a few weeks ago when we were there. Not as pretty as Buffy or Willow about as close as you can get (sort of).
Re: pc components
- Original Message - From: will [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 4:47 PM Subject: Re: pc components Not as pretty as Buffy or Willow about as close as you can get (sort of). In terms of celebrity status I mean. Quick, someone pass me a shovel.
Perl Journal in the shops?
Has anyone sighted TPJ in a (London) newsagent or bookshop, or know who the UK distributor is? cheer j --- jon eyre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (http://simpson.dyndns.org/~jon/) the slack which can be described is not the true slack
Re: pc components
will wrote: rm -f zig mv zig/* CATS/ , surely? Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: TPC Quiz Team
Peter Haworth wrote: Come to think of it, if Buddy was the password, how come we all know what it is (now, at least). Aren't passwords supposed to be secret? I believe there was a news story about the first law to be signed into, well, law electronically by the POTUS by typing in his dog's name, Buddy, as the password, or verbage to that effect. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: Buffy ...
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 07:25:44AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: At 17:20 16/05/2001, Dean wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 05:08:17PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51586918 The economy took another downturn today as the few remaining London based dot-coms utilized the last of their ever diminishing budgets in an attempt to procure an item that would see off the vampire ^Hventure capitalists. One of the companies to survive todays spending spree was MagSol, the founder Dave was heard to say Willows better. pedant type=grammar? Actually, I'd say Willow's better. /pedant Yes, the willow contingent actually speaks english good. dammit. dha :-) -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Do not look at the cursor! Look where the cursor points! - Chip Salzenberg
Re: pc components
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:42:43PM -0500, will wrote: rm -f zig ? No! for GREAT_JUSTICE in $WAY_TO_DESTRUCTION; do mv zig $WHAT_YOU_DOING; done Martin
Re: pc components
will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote something that looked like the following: Apparently it is Craig 'Red Dwarf' Charles's regular and he was there a few weeks ago when we were there. Not as pretty as Buffy or Willow about as close as you can get (sort of). I saw Craig Charles at the Melbourne Comedy Festival a couple of years ago and it was a waste of time and money. He walked out on stage, said he was p1ssed, drank beer in front of the audience for an hour, occasionally screamed juvenile jokes centred around his manhood, then suddenly declared that he'd had enough and swaggered off stage. Complete w4nker, really, given the price of the tickets. Ian (who'd like to meet either Buffy or Willow in a dark alley...) _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: pc components
- Original Message - From: Ian Brayshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:18 AM Subject: Re: pc components will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote something that looked like the following: Apparently it is Craig 'Red Dwarf' Charles's regular and he was there a few weeks ago when we were there. Not as pretty as Buffy or Willow about as close as you can get (sort of). I saw Craig Charles at the Melbourne Comedy Festival a couple of years ago and it was a waste of time and money. He walked out on stage, said he was p1ssed, drank beer in front of the audience for an hour, occasionally screamed juvenile jokes centred around his manhood, then suddenly declared that he'd had enough and swaggered off stage. Complete w4nker, really, given the price of the tickets. His stand up comedy is a big pile of turd and he looks like a hampster, but it was wierd seeing *Lister* in the pub all the same. He may be a tosser but Red Dwarf was great. will. (who'd like to meet Buffy AND Willow a dark alley all at the same time...)
Re: More Questions
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 05:15:56PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
Did you mean like this?
tie my %scores, 'Tie::Hash::Rank';
[overengineering snipped]
Or you could do it in two lines:
my $i;
my %rank = map { $_ = ++$i } sort {$scores{$a} = $scores{$b}} keys %scores;
--
teco /dev/audio
- Ignatios Souvatzis
FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women
Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... The interesting bits are as follows; At no. 11, Sarah Michelle Geller At no. 10, Alyson Hannigan!!! Nuff said :-) Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com
Re: pc components
www.insight.com - they 0wn Action, and they've never let me down. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indys are very nice indeed. However, I think I got a pretty good deal when I swapped mine for a loaded Sun SS1000e :-) Sellout! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women
Neil Ford sent the following bits through the ether: The interesting bits are as follows; At no. 11, Sarah Michelle Geller At no. 10, Alyson Hannigan!!! You missed out the very important: No 27, Charisma Carpenter ;-), Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/ ... Why you say you no bunny rabbit when you have little powder-puff tail?
Re: pc components
Simon Cozens sent the following bits through the ether: My motherboard from Dabs has spent two days awaiting credit card clearance and two days awaiting despatch. The same happened to me. I've given up buying things on the Internet. I do all my research on the web, and then head down to Tottenham Court Road to actually buy it. The prices are generally comparable, and you get it *there and then*. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/ ... Useless invention no. 404: Caffeine-free Diet Coke
Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 07:36:12PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... The interesting bits are as follows; At no. 11, Sarah Michelle Geller At no. 10, Alyson Hannigan!!! Nuff said :-) Oh, you bastards. You utter, utter, utter bastards. I'm going to have to actually *buy*, and furthermore be seen non-dead with, a copy of FHM now. London PM, you are sick, twisted and evil people. Martin
Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 08:54:12PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 07:36:12PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... The interesting bits are as follows; At no. 11, Sarah Michelle Geller At no. 10, Alyson Hannigan!!! Nuff said :-) Oh, you bastards. You utter, utter, utter bastards. I'm going to have to actually *buy*, and furthermore be seen non-dead with, a copy of FHM now. London PM, you are sick, twisted and evil people. The thing comes in a bloody big cardboard box ffs! Makes checking it out a real pain. If you're getting it for the piccies, I would suggest you don't bother. Whilst SMG gets a full page, the picture of Miss Hannigan is small and a reprint of one of the ones from the photo shoot she did for FHM last year. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com
Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 08:54:12PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 07:36:12PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... The interesting bits are as follows; At no. 11, Sarah Michelle Geller At no. 10, Alyson Hannigan!!! Nuff said :-) Oh, you bastards. You utter, utter, utter bastards. I'm going to have to actually *buy*, and furthermore be seen non-dead with, a copy of FHM now. London PM, you are sick, twisted and evil people. Hey, I have to buy it *imported*... and you think *you* have problems... Uh, what's on the cover, so I get the right one? dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ i like Sample A because it tastes great and is less typing. - brian d foy in c.l.p.misc
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 10:13:23AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: p.s. I have never used Delphi. scores 8/10 as a BD language (it *is* related to Pascal :-) scores 9/10 for does-what-you-expect OTOH the documentation (when I used it) scored -1. (Whereas VB3 (or was it VB4) scored -INFINITY because it would permanently change the size of windows on it's own initiative and of course be trashed by every single piece of s/ware that installed a .DLL) -- Chris Benson if you can't do it in Perl in half-an-hour it's not worth doing.
Re: TPC Quiz Team
Quoting Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ps amsterdam.pm team last time, so which .pm next time? ;-) With your record of being everywhere where there is a conference, I would say you can hook up with any .pm :-) cheers, -- Merijn Broeren | Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavour of life, Software Geek | take big bites. Moderation is for monks. |
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you see quite a few go on Yahoo .. Indys seem to be about 100 quid, OK, that's slightly more than the shipping from Londres to Baaf... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: TPC Quiz Team
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 06:45:33AM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote: It's been so long, I have to ask: what was my article in the most recent TPJ? :-) You want me type it in?? All about arrays, Basics, Positions, Position vs count, foreach loops, reverse and sort, ... Sound familiar? -- Chris Benson
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 01:27:32AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Delphi rules. Still not as good Interface Builder + Objective C + AppKit + NeXTSTEP... Having used both, I totally disagree. YMMV of course :-) Interface Builder is damn good but plenty of stupid shit in it (why am I setting properties in awakeFromNib when I could set it in IB, but they're greyed out?) Paul, can't decide to love or hate Obj-C
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 12:59:53PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Paul Makepeace wrote: The - to . conversion [...] will be a wonderful thing. To be honest, I never understood the point of that conversion. Is it an attempt to make Perl look more like VB? Or like Java? Or trying to save keystrokes? Simplify the lexer? *tokes hard* _fewer characters, man!_ - makes my right wrist click since I never got the hang of the left shift key in a general way. It just looks... nicer. /imo Paul
Re: pc components
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 08:12:52PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: The same happened to me. I've given up buying things on the Internet. I do all my research on the web, and then head down to Tottenham Court Road to actually buy it. The prices are generally comparable, and you get it *there and then*. Comparable to http://www.pricewatch.com/ ? I buy stuff online because it's less hassle/takes less time than finding parking downtown :-) And besides, by the time it arrives (few days later, I'm a cheapskate Ground shipping junkie) I've usually forgotten about it so it's a nice surprise. Paul
RE: TPC Quiz Team
At 13:45 17/05/2001, you wrote: Cross David - dcross writes: Having read Nat's article in the new TPJ, I think we should also have: The use of Buffy the Vampiure Slayer in association with the Perl language is a trademark of the London Perl Mongers It's been so long, I have to ask: what was my article in the most recent TPJ? :-) It was a beginners guide to Arrays. Complete with examples drawing heavily on the world of Buffy. Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
Re: Microsoft.FUKT
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 10:24:56PM +0200, Niklas Nordebo wrote: As usual, registration can be bypassed by replacing www with channel, ie: http://channel.nytimes.com/2001/05/03/technology/03SOFT.html On similar lines, robots.cnn.com is ad free. E.g. http://robots.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/News/05/17/niki.taylor.update/index.html `The first word spoken by the model since the April 29 crash was Coke, said her manager, Lou Taylor (no relation). Her doctor rejected the request for the soft drink, saying she was not ready yet' Er, soft drink, eh? `Taylor suffered liver and abdominal injuries in the accident, though her face was not marred.' Phew, thank Ghod for that -- for a moment I was concerned, but now I know she's still good looking; what a relief! /sarcasm http://www.theonion.com/onion3716/denominator_plummets.html Paul -- Niklas Nordebo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +447966251290
Re: Perl Journal in the shops?
I have seen Perl Journal in Borders on Oxford Street, usually there before the I receive my copy by mail. Happy hunting, Barry - Original Message - From: Jon Eyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 4:42 PM Subject: Perl Journal in the shops? Has anyone sighted TPJ in a (London) newsagent or bookshop, or know who the UK distributor is? cheer j --- jon eyre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (http://simpson.dyndns.org/~jon/) the slack which can be described is not the true slack
Some Northern Irish Fun and Games ...
This is the sort of thing that happens in the country i grew up in http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/northern_ireland/newsid_1336000/1336347.stm -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Happy Happy Joy Joy!
I finally received my copy of TPJ in the mail yesterday. And there was much rejoicing :) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
