Re: JOB: Eng. Proj Management
At 00:23 09/06/01 +0100, you wrote: Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A reasonably reliable headhunter I've dealt with in the past is looking for technical project managers for new web company. Let me know if interested... Hmm... I wonder if I could morph... Come over to the dark side... Bet that's a permie thing isn't it? He didn't say, so probably that's what they'd prefer, yes. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Conway's academic paper generator
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Anyone got a link to this? There's a working version of it here: http://www.elsewhere.org/cgi-bin/postmodern/ And the thing that drives it (The Dada Engine) here: http://dev.null.org/dadaengine/ Alex Gough -- The Texan turned out to be good-natured, generous and likable. In three days, no one could stand him.
Re: www.gateway.gov.uk
At 18:51 09/06/01 +0100, you wrote: Monday morning Precisely. And using Java et al is a discrimination against the mobility impaired. Not to mention the way it discriminates totally against people who can't afford, don't have, morally object to, are too old to learn to use, computers. Sure, it's kind of a crap designed website, and they should have done it in a way that worked on more platforms (although, to be honest, I can't see a way round the problems - it's very hard to do client side certificates in a portable way, and I'd rather see them do something than nothing). However, it's not that big a deal. However, it's hardly the end of the world /J\ -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.gateway.gov.uk
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:56:19AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: At 18:51 09/06/01 +0100, you wrote: Monday morning Precisely. And using Java et al is a discrimination against the mobility impaired. Not to mention the way it discriminates totally against people who can't afford, don't have, morally object to, are too old to learn to use, computers. Sure, it's kind of a crap designed website, and they should have done it in a way that worked on more platforms (although, to be honest, I can't see a way round the problems - it's very hard to do client side certificates in a portable way, and I'd rather see them do something than nothing). However, it's not that big a deal. It is that big a deal. The government has legal requirements for accessibility in other areas, I don't see why it's public interface on the Internet should be any different. If there was no ability for disabled people to enter government buildings at Westminster, there would be outrage from the disabled communities. In short, it's a big deal because they made it a big deal. I haven't looked at the certificate issue, but most of the things I've read so far state that it's only a problem because they've made it a problem by using non-standard technology. However, it's hardly the end of the world No, but it is the start of the long slippery slope. Which most of us hope to avoid travelling down. -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | | URL: http://www.semantico.com/ | | Tel: +44 (1273) 72 | | Address: 33 Bond St., Brighton, Sussex, BN1 1RD, UK. |
Re: Default library paths
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 05:40:38PM +0100, Matthew Robinson wrote: Apologies in advance if I have missed something blindingly obvious :) I need to change the default library paths in a compiled copy of perl. Basically, I want to move /usr/lib/perl5 into /usr/local/lib/perl5. I am unable to recompile perl as it is compiled for arm-linux and I don't have either the cross-compiler or the correct configuration to get perl to build for this architecture. Currently, I am using a soft link from my /usr/lib to /usr/local/lib. However, I would prefer to keep the whole installation on /usr/local as this is mounted from a removable disk and I would prefer not to have dangling links when the device is removed. Any suggestions, or am I stuck with the link in /usr/lib. You're very probably stuck. Whilst you can use a hex editor to change strings in the binary, you can't expand the length of those strings, only contract them or retain the same length. However, a solution would be to change the perl binary to use /opt/lib instead of /usr/lib and make /opt a symlink to /usr/local. There's a couple of reasonable hex editors out there, but I usually just tend to use M-x hexl-find-file in emacs. If you're a vim user, see xxd(1). -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | | URL: http://www.semantico.com/ | | Tel: +44 (1273) 72 | | Address: 33 Bond St., Brighton, Sussex, BN1 1RD, UK. |
Re: www.gateway.gov.uk
From: Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not to mention the way it discriminates totally against people who can't afford, don't have, morally object to, are too old to learn to use, computers. How come. It's an alternative to, not a replacement for, the usual paper based forms; isn't it? /Robert
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
On 08/06/2001 at 12:30 +0100, David Cantrell wrote: ... and some not so pretty pictures. http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/london.pm/2001-06-07/ Bah. Too many of me. And not enough of you here: http://husk.org/perl/pics/ Warning: dislike of flash may lead to fuzzyness and light trails. -- :: paul :: 'aggressive is a big M - and the misses generally :: don't survive aeroplane crashes.' dadadodo
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 08/06/2001 at 12:30 +0100, David Cantrell wrote: ... and some not so pretty pictures. http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/london.pm/2001-06-07/ Bah. Too many of me. And not enough of you here: http://husk.org/perl/pics/ Warning: dislike of flash may lead to fuzzyness and light trails. Really pretty pics: http://www.well.com/user/pdcawley/misc_images/ But I may be biased. There are no London.pmers in those though. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com
Re: www.gateway.gov.uk
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:19:21AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:56:19AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: I haven't looked at the certificate issue, but most of the things I've read so far state that it's only a problem because they've made it a problem by using non-standard technology. And it doesn't seem very impartial if they continue building these sites which you can only use if you buy products from a given company. (If I understand the current requirements, you have to buy MacOS (from Apple) or Windows (from Microsoft) to run your free (no cost) browser) (Is it legal to be anticompetitive by encouraging a duopoly?) However, it's hardly the end of the world No, but it is the start of the long slippery slope. Which most of us hope to avoid travelling down. I agree. It's the not the end of the world. Just the beginning of the end. Nicholas Clark
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
http://husk.org/perl/pics/ Warning: dislike of flash may lead to fuzzyness and light trails. Very artistic. I think your camera was drunk (thank $deity - I don't get on with them sober). Nice to meet you all. I'll be ba-ack. L. I love the smell of fruit flies in the morning.
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
On 11/06/2001 at 11:10 +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://husk.org/perl/pics/ http://www.well.com/user/pdcawley/misc_images/ But I may be biased. Nah, they are nice. But you've been selective, I'm assuming (unless you've just taken seven photos in your entire life) whereas I just upload all of my photos (except the ones in NY), so they're all available for ridicule. -- :: paul :: 'aggressive is a big M - and the misses generally :: don't survive aeroplane crashes.' dadadodo
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 11/06/2001 at 11:10 +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://husk.org/perl/pics/ http://www.well.com/user/pdcawley/misc_images/ But I may be biased. Nah, they are nice. But you've been selective, Of course, first step towards being a decent photographer is learning to edit. When you're scanning off negatives and you don't have a bulk scanner then you *have* to be selective. Life is too short. I'm assuming (unless you've just taken seven photos in your entire life) whereas I just upload all of my photos (except the ones in NY), so they're all available for ridicule. I'd suggest building a page of 'favourites'. Just thinking about why they are your favourites and what you did to make the image will improve your general photography. Certainly my contacts sheets have got generally better as I've taken more photographs and gone through the editing process with them. Not very perlish I'm afraid. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not very perlish I'm afraid. a) I'm sure that will change in time (any camel shots?). b) That makes it an appropriate topic for this list. Ian _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
On 11/06/2001 at 12:46 +0100, Ian Brayshaw wrote: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not very perlish I'm afraid. a) I'm sure that will change in time (any camel shots?). http://husk.org/lndn/circ/compat/DSCF0102.jpg See, the advantages of posting everything. -- :: paul :: 'aggressive is a big M - and the misses generally :: don't survive aeroplane crashes.' dadadodo
Re: Religion
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 07:44:40PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Which reminds me of something I read in the PuTTY FAQ: Question: Would you like me to register you a snappier domain name? The PuTTY web page is hard to find. Answer: No, it isn't. You type putty into Google and it's the very first thing that comes back. How true. Typical of Simon Tatham. :-) Anyway, chiark isn't that hard to remember, and greenend is just due to living on Green End Road on Cambridge (except that chiark doesn't...) *grin* L.
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 12:23:26PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Just thinking about why they are your favourites and what you did to make the image will improve your general photography. Certainly my contacts sheets have got generally better as I've taken more photographs and gone through the editing process with them. Not very perlish I'm afraid. Learning what you do well by studying it, and getting better over time isn't perlish? Weird. I though that was part of the essence of perl. Tony -- -- Tony Bowden | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.tmtm.com/ life is a sleazy stranger - and this is his favourite bar -- PGP signature
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
Piers Cawley sent the following bits through the ether: Unlikely. http://www.iterative-software.com/~pdcawley/acme.png is vaguely perlish though. Taking pictures of me when I've a) not slept much b) was tired anyway c) at morning when I haven't had a shower probably isn't going to produce the next [insert name of famous photographer/subject]. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/ ... All things are green unless they are not
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
At 13:01 11/06/01 +0100, you wrote: Unlikely. http://www.iterative-software.com/~pdcawley/acme.png is vaguely perlish though. Hey, that's a good photo. It's Leontastic. -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl CGI For The World Wide Web
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Dave Cross wrote: Remember the discussion some months ago about what a horrible book this was? Well, I've been exchanging emails with the author since slagging her off big-time on Amazon. Somehow I've managed to make her thing that my input is useful and I've just received a copy of the second edition of the book. snip I consider this a massive improvement. Huzzah! Next stop, world domination. *muahahaha* L. We want our nebula back and we want it now.
Re: Perl CGI For The World Wide Web
I consider this a massive improvement. The mere fact that Perl and CGI are actually differentiated in the title is a marvel in and of itself. Thank God for small miracles. Daniel Packer
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
On 11 Jun 2001, Piers Cawley wrote: http://www.iterative-software.com/~pdcawley/acme.png is vaguely perlish though. Scary (no offense) L. I would say it's a 'fruit knife' but it's not big and it's not cleaver.
Re: [Possible Job] Perl, Linux
Piers Cawley wrote: I don't know about you, but I'm *definitely* fat. 4XL, innit? (Remembering you at yapc::Europe:19100 at the T-shirt stand, wondering whether even to bother looking at them.) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 12:23:26PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Just thinking about why they are your favourites and what you did to make the image will improve your general photography. Certainly my contacts sheets have got generally better as I've taken more photographs and gone through the editing process with them. Not very perlish I'm afraid. Learning what you do well by studying it, and getting better over time isn't perlish? Weird. I though that was part of the essence of perl. Hmm... good point. Time for a journal entry I think. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com
Re: [Possible Job] Perl, Linux
Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley wrote: I don't know about you, but I'm *definitely* fat. 4XL, innit? (Remembering you at yapc::Europe:19100 at the T-shirt stand, wondering whether even to bother looking at them.) 4XL Tall acksherly. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Jonathan Peterson wrote: At 13:01 11/06/01 +0100, you wrote: Unlikely. http://www.iterative-software.com/~pdcawley/acme.png is vaguely perlish though. Hey, that's a good photo. It's Leontastic. No Red eyes, not sitting in front of a picture of well known nazi leader , it cant be the real Leon ... /J\
Re: Religion (was Re: M$ SQueaLServer)
Greg McCarroll wrote: * Philip Newton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: AFAIK Samba implements the SMB protocol, which is the native resource (file, printer, ...) sharing protocol of Windows. So if you have Windows, you've already got an SMB client and server running. for the same reasons people install apache on windows when they already have personal web server running ;-) Well, PWS isn't part of the operating system. (Let's not talk about MSIE in this context.) Compare it, maybe, to NFS under Unix which is sometimes in the kernel -- why run usermode NFS ported from somewhere else if the kernel speaks it already? Cheers, philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
buffy and evil vampire
ok, I can't imagine this hasn't been posted here, but it doesn't show in my archives, so: http://buffy.slayers.co.uk/ShowStrip.asp?CS=1 -- dave thorn | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
Piers Cawley wrote: http://www.iterative-software.com/~pdcawley/acme.png For some reason, that reminded me of tchrist, especially the region around the mouth and chin. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
Leon Brocard wrote: Registration might happen pretty soon too. Ooh, goody. People at work (who fortunately will be paying for me to go to yapc::Europe again this year) have said they'll want to start to get down details. Probably better to book hotel, travel, etc. *after* I register for the conference, or I might end up travelling to AMS for nothing. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
RE: Some pretty pictures ...
For some reason, that reminded me of tchrist, especially the ---^^^ Is that Northern for Jesus? -- matt | only a wardrobe away
Re: Some pretty pictures ...
[Hey, where did your attributions go? Mailer-daemon ate them?] Matthew Jones wrote: For some reason, that reminded me of tchrist, especially the ---^^^ Is that Northern for Jesus? What's Northern? Northern English? Anyway, it's Unix-login-ese for Tom Christiansen, whom you may have heard of in the context of Perl ;-). Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Where's my bloody gun?
I guess it's old news to you all, but there's a notice on http://search.cpan.org to the effect that it has been hacked. I use this a lot. What IS the mentality of idiots who attack community sites like this? Where's my bloody gun
[fwd] Fwd: [Gllug] Geeknic - 17th June
- Forwarded message from Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:24:11 +0100 From: Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Squack Shaque [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: [Gllug] Geeknic - 17th June Fowarded with permission. Please rdist widely Gordo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Gllug] Geeknic - 17th June Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 17:28:05 +0100 The Geeknic is planned for Sunday 17th June. Please, please publicise this to all the lists and newsgroups you know. The more the merrier! What - the Geeknic is a Geek Picnic. Date - Sunday 17th June Time - 12:30 onwards (I thought of 12:00 but that might be too early) Place - General Wolff's Statue, adjacent to the Observatory, Greenwich Park (this is a terrace overlooking London, right next to the one o'clock time signal) Bring - picnic food, cool drinks, and lashings of ginger beer Plus sun screen and hats (ha! bet it rains) Activities - bring frisbees, softball, kites, nerf guns and any other fun things to do. Alternate activities - there is a craft market in Greenwich, and nice restaurants and pubs for later on Computing - palmtops and laptops OK, but these shouldn't form the focus of the day. I may well have a car there, so we could consider hauling in a power supply. Facilities - there are toilets in the park, plus ice cream stands and a rather pricey cafe How to find us - follow the sign of the Inflatable Penguin (seriously though, we should be in the vicinity of the observatory. IT won't be too hard to spot a bunch of geeks and inflatable penguins in Greenwich Park) If you are unsure about finding the place, we can swap mobile numbers off list. -- Gllug mailing list - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.ftech.net/mailman/listinfo/gllug -- Gordon Joly// [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pobox.com/~or/ - End forwarded message - -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com
Books
I'm having a clear-out of my bookshelves, and wonder if any of you lot want any of the following: Programming Perl (2nd ed) Learning Perl (1st ed) Photoshop in a nutshell and the less relevant ones: Amiga Workbench, and A500+ manual Autocad 12 for beginners Starting MS-DOS Assembler DataEase 4.5 manuals VB3Pro manuals VB Power Toolkit Database developers guide with VB3 AWT Programming for Java JDBC Database Access with Java -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason not to give it-- Agatha Christie
RE: Where's my bloody gun?
t'was probly a Python maniac. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Where's my bloody gun? I guess it's old news to you all, but there's a notice on http://search.cpan.org to the effect that it has been hacked. I use this a lot. What IS the mentality of idiots who attack community sites like this? Where's my bloody gun Copyright in this message and any attachments remains with us. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. If this message is not intended for you it must not be read, copied or used by you or disclosed to anyone else. Please advise the sender immediately if you have received this message in error. Although this message and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Open Link International for any loss or damage in any way arising from its use.
Re: Where's my bloody gun?
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh I forgot to mention: Where's my bloody gun you haven't got one any more, the government decided they were just too dangerous for you to play with. -- Robin Szemeti Redpoint Consulting Limited Real Solutions For A Virtual World
Re: Where's my bloody gun?
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess it's old news to you all, but there's a notice on http://search.cpan.org to the effect that it has been hacked. I use this a lot. What IS the mentality of idiots who attack community sites like this? maybe it was just a script kiddie .. maybe it was a worm. there have ben a couple of worms crawling around that basically infect your host, delete a variety of files, put up there own hacked index page, try and spread. its all pretty automatic and rapid, especially with decent connectivity. keep up to date with those security advisiories girls, and as leisure suit larry always used to say 'save early, save often' ;) -- Robin Szemeti Redpoint Consulting Limited Real Solutions For A Virtual World
Re: www.gateway.gov.uk
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:26:39AM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: (If I understand the current requirements, you have to buy MacOS (from Apple) or Windows (from Microsoft) to run your free (no cost) browser) IIUIC IE on MacOS lets you look at the site, but you can't do anything useful due to lack of certificates. (Is it legal to be anticompetitive by encouraging a duopoly?) Hardly a duopoly! Anyone see the Steve Bell cartoon in the Gaudrian: on Saturday: Light conquers the forces of darkness ... with the light in question shining from the arse of a fat cat with no noticable resemblance to anyone in Redmond. However, it's hardly the end of the world It will be when you get the Go to Jail card because you haven't filled in your on-line tax return. Best start shouting now. No, but it is the start of the long slippery slope. Which most of us hope to avoid travelling down. I agree. It's the not the end of the world. Just the beginning of the end. Amen. Why, when the sun is shining (almost) and there is a popular (?) govt. do I feel like I did in early/mid 70's: like the end of the world was nigh? -- Chris Benson -- It ain't dark yet, but it's getting there.
Re: www.gateway.gov.uk
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:26:39AM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: (If I understand the current requirements, you have to buy MacOS (from Apple) or Windows (from Microsoft) to run your free (no cost) browser) Looking at open.gov.uk, there is mention of the move to ukonline.gov.uk but no mention of gateway.gov.uk. Didn't ukonline.co.uk complain about trademark infringement a while back? Is gateway.gov.uk the result? and is there any possible trademark confusion with this address? -- Chris Benson
Re: www.gateway.gov.uk
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Chris Benson wrote: Didn't ukonline.co.uk complain about trademark infringement a while back? Is gateway.gov.uk the result? and is there any possible trademark confusion with this address? ring ring 'hello .. is that the government? .. oh good. I'd like to complain about trademark infringement by one of your sites ..' pause 'yes .. yes .. oh I see .. yes .. no, no you are quite right I don;t want to spend the the next 20 years talking to VAT inspectors and men from the Inland Revenue ... ah forget I ever called, by the way, did I mention waht a fantastic set of teeth Tony has?' -- Robin Szemeti Redpoint Consulting Limited Real Solutions For A Virtual World
Re: Default library paths
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:25:32AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: You're very probably stuck. Whilst you can use a hex editor to change strings in the binary, you can't expand the length of those strings, only contract them or retain the same length. However, a solution would be to change the perl binary to use /opt/lib instead of /usr/lib and make /opt a symlink to /usr/local. There's a couple of reasonable hex editors out there, but I usually just tend to use M-x hexl-find-file in emacs. If you're a vim user, see xxd(1). Presumably if you know the string, and they're all going to be replaced (as sounds like the case) you could use perl -pi -0e 's~/usr/lib/~/opt/lib~g' in whole-file-slurp mode (is that the right switch, -0?). Paul -- Intentions -credibility of -nobility of -humility of
downloady filenames
ISTR somebody explaing the magic incantations you could put after Content-type: text/some-funny-application in order for the browser to try and save it as 'something.xyz' instead of 'scriptname.pl' .. enlighten me please as I have flushed my archive and lost it. -- Robin Szemeti Redpoint Consulting Limited Real Solutions For A Virtual World
