Re: YAPC::Europe

2001-06-15 Thread Dean

On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 06:56:35PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
 Plane tickets are currently 37 quid return via easyjet...

Are there any plans for a group of London PMer's to fly over together or is
the whole thing going to be ad hoc? 

I know i asked this before but with the success of the NY trip i was hoping
someone would be feeling ambitious and volenter... (Although i worked at 
Oven and hence can't organize a pissup in a brewery :))

Dean
-- 
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand
   --- Anon



Re: YAPC::Europe

2001-06-15 Thread David Cantrell

On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:17:53AM +0100, Dean wrote:

  Although i worked at 
 Oven and hence can't organize a pissup in a brewery

That's odd, I'm sure I remember Oven doing at least that one thing well!

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Re: YAPC::Europe

2001-06-15 Thread Neil Ford

On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:17:53AM +0100, Dean wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 06:56:35PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
  Plane tickets are currently 37 quid return via easyjet...
 
 Are there any plans for a group of London PMer's to fly over together or is
 the whole thing going to be ad hoc? 
 
Needing to get things sorted, we've booked our flights already. I know at
least one other London.pmer is on the same flight as us (Easyjet from
Gatwick, 14:45 Wednesday 1st).

Neil.
-- 
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YAB::London (was YAPC::Europe)

2001-06-15 Thread Tony Kennick


On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:44:02 +0100
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 07:46:56PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
  
So how many people are bringing partners to YAPC::Europe?
  
  Some of us can't afford YAPC.  And some of us don't have partners :-(
 
 maybe we could have Yet Another Beer :: London at the same time then.

That is the time of the Great British Beer Festival and Thursday is the
night John Otway is playing...

I'll be there all week again, slaving away at keeping the beer on the
front right set of brewery bars in tip top condition.


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LCN supplementary

2001-06-15 Thread Dean

Welcome to a supplementary issue of the LCN for the month of June.
This post contains details that have changed or been announced since the
June LCN that was dispatched at (gasp) the start of June.

The User Groups:
---

GLLUG
Home Page: http://gllug.linux.co.uk/
 
Greater London Linux User Group's (GLLUG) purpose is to bring together
London's Linux users so they can share experiences and expertise (or
revel in their inexperience and quest for expertise), to chat about
the state of the (Linux) world, that sort of thing.
 
We try to arrange meets so that there is space for users to set up
their equipment, so you are welcome to bring your kit along, either to
go through the problems you are having or just to show off what you
are up to.

Next GLLUG (Greater London Linux User Group) will be at the same place
(FrameStore) CFC Preview Theatre, 19-23 Wells St., London W1, on
23/06/01 Starting at 1pm and ending at 6pm.
 
We have three talks:
 
Mike Brodbelt
 
A discussion of mail systems, with particular reference to IMAP server
implementations, and the advantages of using IMAP solutions. Technical
detail on the specifics of an IMAP implementation using the Cyrus IMAP
server.
 
Richard Cohen
 
Introduction to the Shell:
Aimed at people who are either new to Linux, or who have spent most of
their time in graphical environments. An attempt to introduce people to
the richness and power of the Linux and Unix shell, and some of the more
useful standard tools.  Lots of examples, both useful and silly.
 
Simon Trimmer
 
An Introduction to Linux Kernel Debugging:
A practical talk with information and techniques targeted at the mid
range of Linux experience (i.e. comfortable systems administrator
through to beginner developer). The talk will cover the basics and probe
some more advanced areas of kernel debugging, in particular exploring
the types of crashes/lockups with methods for diagnosing problems. 
There are no formalities to attending a GLLUG meeting, no subscription
or entry fees, you can just turn up on the day. We welcome and
encourage new and inexperienced users, young and old.

The GLLUG venue this month is an indoor private preview Theatre owned by
CFC and Framestore and once again our thanks go out for letting us use it
for the day.

---
London Perl Mongers
Home Page: http://www.london.pm.org
Contact Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
London PM are a group who are dedicated to the encouragement of all things
Perl-like in London.
 
The technical meeting is on the 21/06/01 and is being held once more at the
very kind and understanding State51.


Outside London Events:
---
YAPC::Europe:
YAPC is yet another Perl conference, with apologies to The Perl
Conference. This is an inexpensive, grassroots Perl conference with its
roots in the Perl Mongers Perl users groups, and is supported by Yet
Another Society.
 
This years conference is Thursday, 02/08/2001 -- 04/08/2001 and is located
in Amsterdam. More details can be found here:
http://www.yapc.org/Europe/

The conference registration has now opened and tickets are available (While
stocks last) so make sure you don't wait too long. I don't know of any
plans to send a London delegation (ala last years OSDEM) so make your
plans quick :)


UKUUG Linux Developers' Conference:
This is on 29 June - 1 July 2001. It looks like one of the most fun
events this year and with the list of speakers attending it should be on
your essential list.
http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2001/ 

Today is the last day to get a discount on entry fees so don't forget.

Other Stuff:
--- 

London Geeknic
John Spare time Hearns has bravely organised the first London
Geeknic for this weekend. Expect much humour, laptops and coders bursting
into dust under the rays of the day star.

What - the Geeknic is a Geek Picnic.
Date - Sunday 17th June
Time - 12:30  onwards

Place - General Wolff's Statue, adjacent to the Observatory, Greenwich
Park (this is a terrace overlooking London, right next to the one o'clock
time signal)

Bring - picnic food, cool drinks, and lashings of ginger beer Plus sun screen
and hats (ha! bet it rains)

Activities - bring frisbees, softball, kites, nerf guns and any other
fun things to do.

Alternate activities - there is a craft market in Greenwich, and nice
restaurants and pubs for later on.

Computing - palmtops and laptops OK, but these shouldn't form the focus
of the day. I may well have a car there, so we could consider hauling
in a power supply.

How to find us - follow the sign of the Inflatable Penguin
(seriously though, we should be in the vicinity of the observatory. IT
won't be too hard to spot a bunch of geeks and inflatable penguins in
Greenwich Park)

(Thanks to SuSE for a six foot inflatable penguin!)

--- 

HTH and can someone bring a football to the geeknic...

Dean
-- 
Profanity is the one 

Re: YAPC::Europe

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Neil Ford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:17:53AM +0100, Dean wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 06:56:35PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
   Plane tickets are currently 37 quid return via easyjet...
  
  Are there any plans for a group of London PMer's to fly over together or is
  the whole thing going to be ad hoc? 
  
 Needing to get things sorted, we've booked our flights already. I know at
 least one other London.pmer is on the same flight as us (Easyjet from
 Gatwick, 14:45 Wednesday 1st).

i'm also booking that flight, my only problem is it wont accept my
switch card at the moment for some unknown reason

-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: YAPC::Europe

2001-06-15 Thread Paul Mison

On 15/06/2001 at 09:17 +0100, Dean wrote:
Are there any plans for a group of London PMer's to fly over together
or is
the whole thing going to be ad hoc?

Not yet, no. (Oh, and what are the cheapest flights from London City?
Living in skanky East London's got to be good for *something*.)

I know i asked this before but with the success of the NY trip i was
hoping
someone would be feeling ambitious and volenter... (Although i worked at
Oven and hence can't organize a pissup in a brewery :))

Organising anything for London.pm once a year is enough. (Oh, did the
pub evaluation sessions happen this week, or did I miss something?)

Anyway, I thought Oven's pissup/brewery exercise went very well,
although it could be no-one remembers because of absinthe poisoning.

On 15/06/2001 at 09:17 +0100, David Cantrell wrote:

That's odd, I'm sure I remember Oven doing at least that one thing well!

See, that absinthe's powerful stuff.

--
:: paul
:: 'aggressive is a big M - and the misses generally
::  don't survive aeroplane crashes.' dadadodo





Re: YAB::London (was YAPC::Europe)

2001-06-15 Thread Lucy McWilliam


On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Tony Kennick wrote:

   Some of us can't afford YAPC.
  maybe we could have Yet Another Beer :: London at the same time then.
 That is the time of the Great British Beer Festival

Just realised that.  YAB :: London @ Olympia?


L.
Busy doin' nothing




Re: YAPC::Europe

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Neil Ford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:17:53AM +0100, Dean wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 06:56:35PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
   Plane tickets are currently 37 quid return via easyjet...
  
  Are there any plans for a group of London PMer's to fly over together or is
  the whole thing going to be ad hoc? 
  
 Needing to get things sorted, we've booked our flights already. I know at
 least one other London.pmer is on the same flight as us (Easyjet from
 Gatwick, 14:45 Wednesday 1st).
 

if anyone else is booking the gatwick departure on the 1/8 and the
return to gatwick on the 5/8 from easyjet (total cost 62.50) could
they book an extra ticket and i'll do a funds transfer to their
account or something

easyjet don't seem to like switch well at least not a switch card
that expires this month or the one that starts next month

hmmm  

-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell

On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 05:41:43PM +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote:
 Beware, it's in Flash (or Shockwave)
 http://www.electrotank.com/lab/minigolf.html
 
 Hole 17 is a bugger

How much time did it take you to find out this incredible fact?

-Dom

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Re: *Buffy's Not Included

2001-06-15 Thread Lucy McWilliam


On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Leo Lapworth (on topic, for a change) wrote:

 XML - do it because you need it, not because of the Buzz.

Indeed ;-)


 XML is cool for handeling complex (or varied) data and sharing
 this info with others (but if CSV will do, then use that!).

I'll soon be implementing an annotation/transformation tool to produce
large, *complicated* XML files containing information about microarray
experiments.  Would be grateful if anyone could suggest any useful
tools/modules.


L.
www.gen.cam.ac.uk/~flychip




Re: YAPC::Europe (Ignore this request)

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll


Ok, ignore this request now. Also thanks to Simon Wilcox. for helping me out 
here.

I also believe others are flying on this flight, so it looks like we have
the official flight for London.pm ;-) and thanks to Jouke we can claim
to have an official London.pm hotel - with minibars and minigolf

* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 * Neil Ford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:17:53AM +0100, Dean wrote:
   On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 06:56:35PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
Plane tickets are currently 37 quid return via easyjet...
   
   Are there any plans for a group of London PMer's to fly over together or is
   the whole thing going to be ad hoc? 
   
  Needing to get things sorted, we've booked our flights already. I know at
  least one other London.pmer is on the same flight as us (Easyjet from
  Gatwick, 14:45 Wednesday 1st).
  
 
 if anyone else is booking the gatwick departure on the 1/8 and the
 return to gatwick on the 5/8 from easyjet (total cost 62.50) could
 they book an extra ticket and i'll do a funds transfer to their
 account or something
 
 easyjet don't seem to like switch well at least not a switch card
 that expires this month or the one that starts next month
 
 hmmm  
 
 -- 
 Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/
-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: YAPC::Europe (Ignore this request)

2001-06-15 Thread Struan Donald

* at 15/06 14:41 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:
 
 Ok, ignore this request now. Also thanks to Simon Wilcox. for helping me out 
 here.
 
 I also believe others are flying on this flight, so it looks like we have
 the official flight for London.pm ;-) and thanks to Jouke we can claim
 to have an official London.pm hotel - with minibars and minigolf

somehow i just can't see offical hotel of london.pm being used in
the marketing material...

struan



Re: YAPC::Europe (Ignore this request)

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Struan Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 * at 15/06 14:41 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:
  
  Ok, ignore this request now. Also thanks to Simon Wilcox. for helping me out 
  here.
  
  I also believe others are flying on this flight, so it looks like we have
  the official flight for London.pm ;-) and thanks to Jouke we can claim
  to have an official London.pm hotel - with minibars and minigolf
 
 somehow i just can't see offical hotel of london.pm being used in
 the marketing material...

site of the 2001 mini golf riot

may not go down well either, i'm not curious how much of the hotel
we can take up

will we get our own floor?

do we have enough airports to give us a private lan?

Greg 

-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: YAPC::Europe (Ignore this request)

2001-06-15 Thread Neil Ford

On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 03:30:36PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * Struan Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  * at 15/06 14:41 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:
   
   Ok, ignore this request now. Also thanks to Simon Wilcox. for helping me out 
   here.
   
   I also believe others are flying on this flight, so it looks like we have
   the official flight for London.pm ;-) and thanks to Jouke we can claim
   to have an official London.pm hotel - with minibars and minigolf
  
  somehow i just can't see offical hotel of london.pm being used in
  the marketing material...
 
 site of the 2001 mini golf riot
 
 may not go down well either, i'm not curious how much of the hotel
 we can take up
 
 will we get our own floor?
 
 do we have enough airports to give us a private lan?
 
If we did, who'd pick up the phone bill?

If I pack enough laptops we could have our own irc server though :-)

Neil.
-- 
Neil C. Ford
Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com



Re: YAPC::Europe (Ignore this request)

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Neil Ford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 03:30:36PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  * Struan Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   * at 15/06 14:41 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:

Ok, ignore this request now. Also thanks to Simon Wilcox. for helping me out 
here.

I also believe others are flying on this flight, so it looks like we have
the official flight for London.pm ;-) and thanks to Jouke we can claim
to have an official London.pm hotel - with minibars and minigolf
   
   somehow i just can't see offical hotel of london.pm being used in
   the marketing material...
  
  site of the 2001 mini golf riot
  
  may not go down well either, i'm not curious how much of the hotel
  we can take up
  
  will we get our own floor?
  
  do we have enough airports to give us a private lan?
  
 If we did, who'd pick up the phone bill?
 

we could always split it

or do they have unmetered called in Holland? If so and we had
a direct line we could beg a Dutch Monger to call in and
set up ppp to their broadband or similar connection

anyway just having a common Lan may be fun 

-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



NYC Pictures

2001-06-15 Thread Dave Cross

A lot later that originally planned [insert bootsphoto.com rant here] I've
finally got my photos of NYC back and am currently in the process of
uploading them to http://www.dave.org.uk/ny/.

Some semblance of order may well be imposed if I ever get some more spare
time, but currently you'll just have to make do with a default index page.

Whilst I'm quite happy to take the blame for the poor composition and
lack of focus, the general washed-out colour is, I'm sure, the fault of
Boots. I (or, more accurately, my camera) are usually better than that :)

Caption competition anyone?

Enjoy,

Dave...

-- 

  Don't dream it... be it




early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll


I was just playing around and wrote 

http://217.34.97.146/~gem/perl/lpm_cpan_lb.cgi

It is a very alpha-ish cgi script that simply compiles a 
Leader Board of known London.pm people (including those
who may be outside the UK but still in there heart are
London.pmers) and ranks them according to the number of 
modules attributed to them in 03modlist.data.gz.

!!! THIS IS JUST A BIT OF FUN !!!

However if it does spur people to release the modules that
have been sitting on their hard disks for ages, so be it.
(Myself included).

I'll cleanup/optimize/add error checking tommorow. but 
i thought i'd let you see it tonight for fun and 
advance warning.

If i haven't got your CPAN id included in the list at the
bottom please email me off list, i just skipped through
the who's who very quickly getting a decent list of people
who looked london.pm-ish to test it.

Greg

-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Leon Brocard

Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:

 It is a very alpha-ish cgi script that simply compiles a 
 Leader Board of known London.pm people

The modules list is a bit out of date in this case (I'm at eight)...

Leon
-- 
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/

... The faster you go, the shorter you are



Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
 
  It is a very alpha-ish cgi script that simply compiles a 
  Leader Board of known London.pm people
 
 The modules list is a bit out of date in this case (I'm at eight)...
 

the blame the module list maintainer , not me ;-)



-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Dave Cross

On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:42:20PM +0100, Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
 
  It is a very alpha-ish cgi script that simply compiles a 
  Leader Board of known London.pm people
 
 The modules list is a bit out of date in this case (I'm at eight)...

And, of course, not all modules on CPAN are in the module list 
(see, for example, Symbol::Approx::Sub).

Dave...

-- 

  Drugs are just bad m'kay




Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Richard Clamp

On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:02:04PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
 And, of course, not all modules on CPAN are in the module list 
 (see, for example, Symbol::Approx::Sub).

Yeah but if you did just parse 02packages blindly then Leon would have
a bigger headstart with all of the Graphviz::GraphMyAunt modules.

-- 
Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
so we've got a deadline.
 we can do deadlines.



Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Leon Brocard

Richard Clamp sent the following bits through the ether:

 Yeah but if you did just parse 02packages blindly then Leon would have
 a bigger headstart with all of the Graphviz::GraphMyAunt modules.

Family graphs? Good call. What was that ancestry format again?

Leon
-- 
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/

... 1200 bps used to seem so fast



Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Dave Cross

On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:18:47PM +0100, Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Richard Clamp sent the following bits through the ether:
 
  Yeah but if you did just parse 02packages blindly then Leon would have
  a bigger headstart with all of the Graphviz::GraphMyAunt modules.
 
 Family graphs? Good call. What was that ancestry format again?

Do you mean GEDCOM?

I made a start at something to create data structures based on GEDCOM files
and create web pages using TT2. Feel free to snarf code from

http://www.dave.org.uk/scripts/webged.tar.gz

Dave...

-- 

  Don't dream it... be it




Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:42:20PM +0100, Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
  Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
  
   It is a very alpha-ish cgi script that simply compiles a 
   Leader Board of known London.pm people
  
  The modules list is a bit out of date in this case (I'm at eight)...
 
 And, of course, not all modules on CPAN are in the module list 
 (see, for example, Symbol::Approx::Sub).
 

hmmm, somehow that strengthens the argument for using the module
list ;-)

however if someone can suggest a better way to evaluate the CPAN
contributions I'm all ears. I like the modlist, because theoretically
its things that have went through some form of QA[1][2] and become part
of the proper CPAN set.

Greg

[1] or KA [3]
[2] albeit limited [3]
[3] as someone once told me - Pratchett has a lot to answer for when
it comes to footnotes (paraphrased)


-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Paul Johnson

On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:18:47PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:

 Family graphs? Good call. What was that ancestry format again?

GEDCOM.  I wrote Gedcom.pm and I've actually had a couple of people
asking about Graphviz, but I had to say I didn't know anything about it.

Go to it.

Please 

-- 
Paul Johnson - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pjcj.net



Re: YAPC::Europe (Ignore this request)

2001-06-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell

On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 08:20:15PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  or do they have unmetered called in Holland? If so and we had
  a direct line we could beg a Dutch Monger to call in and
  set up ppp to their broadband or similar connection
 
 Demon have a PoP of course...and even in Holland it workd out at
 pennies.

Don't forget to log in as hostname.demon.co.uk not just hostname
otherwise it won't work...

-Dom

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Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:18:47PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
 
  Family graphs? Good call. What was that ancestry format again?
 
 GEDCOM.  I wrote Gedcom.pm and I've actually had a couple of people
 asking about Graphviz, but I had to say I didn't know anything about it.
 

and you've now been associated on the page with us as well ;-)

-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Paul Johnson

On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:38:44PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 and you've now been associated on the page with us as well ;-)

Thanks.  I'll have to be an honourary member since I'm in Switzerland at
the moment, but at least it bumps up the percentages on the web page 

-- 
Paul Johnson - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pjcj.net



Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Dave Cross

On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 11:29:27PM +0200, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:18:47PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
 
  Family graphs? Good call. What was that ancestry format again?
 
 GEDCOM.  I wrote Gedcom.pm and I've actually had a couple of people
 asking about Graphviz, but I had to say I didn't know anything about it.

Credit where credit is due. I should probably point out that I made very
heavy use of Paul's GEDCOM.pm when writing webged.

Dave...

-- 

  Drugs are just bad m'kay




Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Dave Cross

On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 11:53:30PM +0200, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:38:44PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
  and you've now been associated on the page with us as well ;-)
 
 Thanks.  I'll have to be an honourary member since I'm in Switzerland at
 the moment, but at least it bumps up the percentages on the web page 

That's just down the road in comparison to some of the people that 
consider themselves members of london.pm :)

Dave...

-- 

  Don't dream it... be it




Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:38:44PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
  and you've now been associated on the page with us as well ;-)
 
 Thanks.  I'll have to be an honourary member since I'm in Switzerland at
 the moment, but at least it bumps up the percentages on the web page 
 

Currently we are at 0.94% of CPAN, but i'm sure we have more contributors
than i have listed

if dha supplies me with a list of cpan ID's and names for NY i'll
do a similar page of NY and include the % of each on both pages



-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread David Cantrell

On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:49:24PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
  
   It is a very alpha-ish cgi script that simply compiles a 
   Leader Board of known London.pm people
  
  The modules list is a bit out of date in this case (I'm at eight)...
 
 the blame the module list maintainer , not me ;-)

The list doesn't get updated that often - it was something like six months
after Data::Hexdumper was submitted to the modules mailing list and bunged
on CPAN before an updated list was issued.

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Re: YAPC::Europe (Ignore this request)

2001-06-15 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 or do they have unmetered called in Holland? If so and we had
 a direct line we could beg a Dutch Monger to call in and
 set up ppp to their broadband or similar connection

Demon have a PoP of course...and even in Holland it workd out at
pennies.

Of course, whoever owned the gateway would want some QoS in there to
prevent FTPs and napster ;-)

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