Re: Templating Solutions
Leo Lapworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oi, Rob, What's this, Home grown (and not smokable), I left Emap too early if your not a TT2 convert yet. We can 'do lunch' later this week and I'll bash you with some TT2 docs or something :) Oooh! Me too! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: checking your CPAN modules are up to date?
Elaine -HFB- Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hodgkinson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: * *I can't find the incantation! Help! CPAN.pm has an autobundle feature that comes in handy for this. Make an autobundle then use it to update all the modules you like. http://www.cpan.org/misc/cpan-faq.html#How_installed_modules show the use of ExtUtils::Installed which I use quite a lot for such things and the question following it also shows how to use autobundle. Nope. It was much easier than that. It just iterated down the installed modules and checked them. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
CMS frameworks
Some guys out here in Brizzle want to do Yet Another CMS. Are there any frameworks out there they can plug together to make something plausible? I guess bits of the 2.0 slashcode do the job nicely, what with being TT based and all. Any other offers?
Re: CMS frameworks
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is CMS ? I guess it isnt the Compact Muon Solenoid in this context. content management. AFAIK IANAL. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: brief penderel outage
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * jo walsh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: i'm taking penderel down for a little bit services shouldnt be gone too long all will be back better and shinier sooner jo jo++ # for doing this sort of stuff on a saturday * _Dave passes Jo a life * _Dave calls the pot _and_ the kettle black -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: CMS frameworks
Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 12:09:53PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any other offers? http://scoop.kuro5hin.org/ Why do all these things have to look like Slashdot? It that now the ONLY metaphor for these things. I know Nielsen would approve of the familiarity part but... ...Nielsen's a fuckwit? No, that's not what I was implying. But yes, that's debateable. One of his usability arguments is that if you're trying to build a usable site, you really want to make it work like all the others. And slashdot have their niche sewn up. It is interesting that this is the conclusion that we came to at work while trying to analyse web forums... ... we weren't impressed. Add it to the all $things suck list. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
checking your CPAN modules are up to date?
I can't find the incantation! Help!
Re: YAPC::Europe (Ignore this request)
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: or do they have unmetered called in Holland? If so and we had a direct line we could beg a Dutch Monger to call in and set up ppp to their broadband or similar connection Demon have a PoP of course...and even in Holland it workd out at pennies. Of course, whoever owned the gateway would want some QoS in there to prevent FTPs and napster ;-) -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [Possible Job] Perl, Linux
Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 07:44:11AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Are there any of you lot still looking for jobs? Still open? I think I might have someone for you. I was fishing on behalf of a client who may well need a perl linux person in the short to medium term. So, the answer's no for the moment although when the time's right it looks like there will be people. Does that make sense? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If this is because you don't have somewhere to stay on the Thursday night, I'm sure we can collectively find a way around that. If you bring your passport, we'll even let you south of the river and my sofa is very comfortable and has a well-stocked booze cabinet next to it. It's a TRAP! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Upcoming technical meeting
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:28:14PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: It's a TRAP! You been playing wy too much nethack recently. That was a tough level with comfy sofa and the drinks cabinet. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [Possible Job] Perl, Linux
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know about you, but I'm *definitely* fat. Big boned. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Perl CGI For The World Wide Web
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remember the discussion some months ago about what a horrible book this was? Well, I've been exchanging emails with the author since slagging her off big-time on Amazon. Somehow I've managed to make her thing that my input is useful and I've just received a copy of the second edition of the book. So how are the kiddiez taking it? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Conway's academic paper generator
Anyone got a link to this? Ta, Dave
Re: London.pm posting stats
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well based on another totally unscientific sample you did :) And how about a signal/noise bias? ;-) -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
[Possible Job] Perl, Linux
I'm doing some work for a .com type company in the travel sector. They have a network support blokey and a Windozey programmer type, but since their live system is apache and linux they have a slight hole in their skillset. Are there any of you lot still looking for jobs? Nice offices in W2 BTW. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [Possible Job] Perl, Linux
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I presume that this is a permie thing? Yes. And I'd estimate that _most_ of you I know would be, um, a bit too heavyweight for them... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Social meet
Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] i'm 07957 386 815 i'm also going to be free this afternoon after about 2 ish (ill switch the phone on then) so if anyone wants to meet up before the meeting give me a bell Between 5 and 6pm I'll be wandering up and down TCR looking for a new PDA. Sony Clie is my preferred choice at the moment. If anyone knows a good shop, or is good at haggling and wants to help, I'm on 07801 814138. those nice people at scan.co.uk were offing it at 199 the other day... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: tape changes
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 05 Jun 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hmm .. we're trying to justify a move to 5gb a month .. at which point Nildram sounds like a cheaper option. ... is Aylesbury nice? There's some nice villages outside... ;-) Question - how much data you got? dunno .. never counted it :) ... probably no more than a couple of giggle bites in the /home tree .. and a 50 megs in mysql I guess. there are quite a lot of small sites on there ... tar.gzedded it comes to about 700 megs .. pour quoi? why arse with tapes when you can mirror? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: tape changes
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 05 Jun 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Question - how much data you got? tar.gzedded it comes to about 700 megs .. pour quoi? why arse with tapes when you can mirror? we did consider that .. and prior to 'arsing with tapes' that what we dun .. but it was eating at a not inconsderable rate into our meagre bandwidth allowance ... I take the point though ... looking over the logs the incrementals each day amount to around 20 megs .. thats 20 megs * 30 days = 600 megs .. thats quite a chunk out of a 2gb monthly bandwidth allowance. Well, get them to discount local bandwidth. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: I'm orff
Aaron Trevena [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: as some of you might already know I'm orff to the west country. I plan to move to bradford-on-avon this week. That be Netcraft country. Be fearful, oh ar. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: The truth will out ( was Re: BUFFY - SPOILERS , DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN SKY 1 LAST NIGHT)
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: now i remember the good old days of live and kicking with sarah green and pete and simon ahhh halycon days halcyon? Anyway we all know it peaked with Sally James... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: General Election
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: well ok ... just so long as he does it quietly ... or on a different planet. Could be worse...could be Richard Digance... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Forthcoming Meetings
Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I could do something about Perl regular expressions and algorithmic complexity. That would be fun :-) Robin, can we have a whip round and pay you NOT to do it? My head always hurts after one of your talks... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: crazy golf
Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: how about US Independence Day? We call that Thanksgiving... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Slow disks under linux
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to duplicate an FS from an oldish 5,400rpm 6GB IDE drive to a new 7,200rpm 61GB IDE drive using the usual cp -ax / /mnt. But it's unbelievably slow -- vmstat 2 is reporting bi/bo around 300! What does hdparm have to say? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Slow disks under linux
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: another tip is to mount the two IDE devices on seperate controllers .. seems to improve things sometimes. Oh Lord, yes. More busses than London General. No, really. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
LAMP in Amsterdam anyone?
http://www.jobserve.com/jobserve/JobDetail.asp?jobid=14094948
Re: LAMP in Amsterdam anyone?
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.jobserve.com/jobserve/JobDetail.asp?jobid=14094948 I've already sent in a CV for that one. Agent seemed a little perturbed when I guessed who it was after his (short) description of what the client did. Sheesh, I am bumping up against you for all the short-term, hacky perl gigs? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: bad greg
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i'm sorry about asking this, but i've purged too many old archives of london.pm to find this one - someone one once mentioned a domain name registry with a neat web based management system for handling the dns wizardry afterwards - could they please remind me of the url? easily.co.uk -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Y::E accomodation
Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not booking anything unless I have a ticket for the conference. I don't have a ticket because they aren't selling them yet. I am very close to not going at all now, as I have to plan a lot of other things for August. This is a shame as I really enjoyed it last year. I'm about to abort my trip to the OSC. Too far, too expensive, not enough other things dovetail with it. Hamsterjam is still on though. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Talks and Stuff
Redvers Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1.5 days left before the CFP closes. Is there is list of the applications that have been made? I have two possibles which I have written abstracts for but don't want to submit them both. I obviously want to submit the one with the least overlap with other talks. I _think_ I've submitted, but I'm not sure! I filled in a form and everything but I've had no real affirmation -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Talks and Stuff
Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2) there is no form - just an email address, huh? OK, getting confused with Apachecon. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
(Chief) Wizard for hire...
All the current projects are done and dusted and the T-shirts are at the printers (really!). I'm looking for the next round of excellent clients to work with. Take a look at my site at http://www.hodgkinson.org/ to see what I'm up to. Thanks, Dave -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: (Chief) Wizard for hire...
James Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You've got a link to 127.0.0.1 on your CV page (sorry, I'm nosy). Fixed, ta. The perils of a two-tier Apache :-) Also, I see you've worked with the devil known as Illustra! Me too, condolences! They had the right idea... ;-) Still, at least one guy walked away with plenty of money! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: (Chief) Wizard for hire...
James Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ooh that would have been very useful for me at one time. I've got bells ringing in my head about how hard it was to get a C library out of them in the early days. Illustra - Nice ideas, shame about the locking approach (and lack of outer joins, etc etc)! Ah, but Blades and time series stuff. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Laziest way of selling stuph on line?
Is there any easier way of flogging stuff on line than using Amazon Z-shops? They settle quickly, commission isn't horrendous and they do some inventory management. Thoughts?
Re: Laziest way of selling stuph on line?
Chris Heathcote [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 25/5/01 10:17 am, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Is there any easier way of flogging stuff on line than using Amazon Z-shops? They settle quickly, commission isn't horrendous and they do some inventory management. I think Yahoo do a similar deal. Not necessarily much better tho'. I looked there and it was REALLY hard to find anything useful. Wonder what happened to all those Intershop ASPs from a year or two ago. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest
Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also have D.A.R.Y.L (Data Analyising Robot Youth Lifeform) but I thinkt hat's pushing it a bit. If that counts, then Weird Science counts too! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest
Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 24 May 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also have D.A.R.Y.L (Data Analyising Robot Youth Lifeform) but I thinkt hat's pushing it a bit. If that counts, then Weird Science counts too! That's more geeksploitation or nerdsplotitation... To quote the review from imdb: Unless you lived through that decade the film won't touch you in quite the same way. You needed to have been in awe of Tron, to have worn stone washed jeans and to have owned at least two pairs of illuminous [odd] socks, to really appreciate the naivety of the main characters as they place their faith in computers and 'modern' technology. Oh, no. Wow, and she's got three kids by Steven Seagal. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest
Cross David - dcross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Matthew Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:05 AM Wow, and she's got three kids by Steven Seagal. The eighties were a crazy decade and people did a lot of things they regret. I know I did :) Well, would *you* say no to Steven Seagal? I strongly suspect I'd say no to having his kids! Apropos nothing, there was a guy who took over at Fusion in the early nineties who was a skinny, bookish, Jewishish type. And his name was Steve Segal. Of course, as soon as we heard, he became Steven Seagal pronounced in the dramatic movie trailer kind of way. I don't think it did his career any harm at all. Back to your usual wibbling. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Election Manifestos
Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 09:59:12AM +0100, Richard Clamp wrote: Ah, he'd be fine if it weren't for those fucking mood swings. You mean I'm nice at times? Aren't you standing for London.pm in the election? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
[OT] Food exports?
Someone just laid what I think is a fresh urban myth on me, but is there any kind of embargo on comestibles going from England to France? Like even wrapped chocolate? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [OT] Food exports?
Barry Pretsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's the leaflets given to travellers http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/int-trde/misc/foot/flyer.pdf oops :-) -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [OT] Food exports?
Barry Pretsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: embargo has been due to foot and mouth, embargo is bi-directional and covers meat as well. Any references to this? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: TPC talk practice / technical meet
Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in. YAPC talks also welcome. I haven't thought of mine yet! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sure I'm really in the minority here, but I can't be the only one who finds all this discussion of the FHM list distasteful. I've never really understood why intelligent men find it acceptable to objectify women in this way. Just 'cause no one would ever treat you like a sex object... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: pc components
www.insight.com - they 0wn Action, and they've never let me down. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indys are very nice indeed. However, I think I got a pretty good deal when I swapped mine for a loaded Sun SS1000e :-) Sellout! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you see quite a few go on Yahoo .. Indys seem to be about 100 quid, OK, that's slightly more than the shipping from Londres to Baaf... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Enough!
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I enjoy aspects of the thread about politics, but get bored when it all goes down old roads. However what i'd really hate is any restrictions placed on the topics of London.pm , politics should be just as welcome as BtVS. It is with me. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Enough!
Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:43:59PM +0100, James Powell wrote: No; many people withhold automatically, it a legitimate privacy concern. That's what the terse message is for (reveal yourself, or bugger off). I suppose it could go to answerphone. Caller detect doesn't work for international calls either. Untrue. When I get calls from friends in Sweden I can see who they are. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Enough!
Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 01:25:23PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Caller detect doesn't work for international calls either. Untrue. When I get calls from friends in Sweden I can see who they are. And when I get calls from Japan, which happens about twice a week, I can't. Ok, so you should have said Caller detect doesn't work for some international calls either. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Enough!
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 15 May 2001, Simon Cozens wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:43:59PM +0100, James Powell wrote: No; many people withhold automatically, it a legitimate privacy concern. That's what the terse message is for (reveal yourself, or bugger off). I suppose it could go to answerphone. Caller detect doesn't work for international calls either. yeah .. thats fine .. it doesn't work from creaky old strowger exchanges either (are there any of those left ?) http://www.light-straw.co.uk/ate/strowger.html -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: does anyone happen to have one of those little plastic credit card things they were giving out before the last election with 10 things 'let us be judged on these:' .. That was a Mark Thomas episode wasn't it? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: BOFHs requiring license
Cross David - dcross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, and Churchill was an arsehole. As the population worked out in the 1945 General Election. Anyone responding with nonsense about him winning the second world war will be given a history lesson :) And the following Socialist government managed to keep the country on rations until well after Germany was back on its feet again. Don't forget also, Britiain was in black and white until well into the Sixties, while German was experimenting with red and the US was fully technicolour by the late fifties. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Enough!
Please, would you take the politics elsewhere? Some of us really don't give a shit either way. Unless Robin writes a Democracy::Approx module. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 14 May 2001, Martin Ling wrote: Appears I'm out of a job too from the end of the month, so count me in. The mighty army of unemployed Perlers takes over the world... Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you compscis to the bioinformatics revolution? Hack around and cure cancer at the same time ;-) Hey, I tried, but I didn't get the contract. Job was looking pretty darned interesting too. And I didn't have to write CGI scripts. Doesn't knowing Lincoln Stein's email address count as expertise? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I respectfully suggest that we don't train the little buggers in schools. We teach them stuff. Wrong. We show them how to learn. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)
Martin Ling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Exactly. This is the same population that brought you 'Hey, why are there loads of schools with below average results!' That was a direct quote. Tory education minister. We want to raise standard so that more than half of schools get above average results. Arsewit. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: see attachment
Martin Ling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 12:37:43AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 08:06:48PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: Snow Crash, essentially. I was thinking recently about how well it would work as a film. You're obviously not the only one: http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/snowcrash.html Ooh, I did see that page once, but before the last update picture. I like: Project phase: development hell -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Long Dark Teatime of the Soul
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1326000/1326657.stm
Re: putting escape characters in files
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:25:00PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: If your terminal has flow control enabled it will eat ^Q and ^S for you. stty -ixon removes this problem. But then how do you pause that long ls listing when your less,more,pg,sed,awkperl binaries are all fscked? :-) Stallman used to have a long rant about ^S/^Q that shipped with the emacs source. Wonder if it's still there. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: putting escape characters in files
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ObRant: computers and OSes in their current state are not consumer devices. They're not sufficiently reliable or intuitive. Bad marketing has made people think they need the things; most of them are wrong... OK, so what does it take? For me, the sorts of things that I _think_ IPv6 has should go a long way. Ubiquitous encryption and authentication will breed the real next generation of applicances. Or something. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: putting escape characters in files
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Putting pretty interfaces on existing unstable systems does not help to make them simpler... That's part of it. Landing a thudding great book of what the thing _can_ do, rather than a cookbook of what you _want_ it to do is very offputting. There's a computer version of the Poke'mon card game that leads you through learning the rules very gently and very well. That's the sort of thing we need for gadgets...start off with stop and play and then gently lead you through to the hard stuff. Or make it like the Tivo - it just works. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: putting escape characters in files
Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a very real argument for devices that do one thing and one thing only but do it in a very simple way without all the flimflam that accompanies most modern computers. Donald Norman has quite a few good books on this. Agreed, but they MUST talk to each other. Securely and knowingly. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-07
Matthew Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.snurfer.org/sands/gfx/vertigo.jpg Did your palms sweat too, richard? That slightly golden building is the Millennium hotel. I had a room on the 54th floor. Lovely view :-) -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Dim Sum?
Anyone up for Dim Sim at 1 O'clock? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Dim Sum?
Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hodgkinson sent the following bits through the ether: Anyone up for Dim Sim at 1 O'clock? Yes. New World, Gerrard Street. I may be very on time. ARGH! Sorry, I got PHB-ed. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Dim Sum?
Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hodgkinson wrote: ARGH! Sorry, I got PHB-ed. Psycho Hose Beasted? you've met her, then? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: TPC Travel
Cross David - dcross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's about the same prices that I'm seeing on ebookers, deckchair and expedia. I may be prepared to pay a little more for a) a direct flight and b) a better known airline :) Virgin are trying it on: £1200! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Not Matt's Scripts
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 19:53 30/04/2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: I've got someone needing a form to mail script. Where's ours[0]? Ta, Dave [0] Oh, all right, yours since I bottled out. Current version is at http://www.dave.org.uk/scripts/notmatt/formmail.pl.txt but it needs some tightening up and peer review. Well hurry up, I'm in the middle of an argument and I want to slap some people with a this is how they _Should_ look cluestick... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: US$ bank account
Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AllAdvantage, while it was still alive, sent me DEM cheques drawn on a German bank (which had been prepared by a service in England). If they can do it, why can't a global e-commerce leading-edge pioneer-type place like Amazon? The mind boggles. Hah! You try signing up for a US Zshop, or the Honour system! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Not Matt's Scripts
Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 30 Apr 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: I've got someone needing a form to mail script. Where's ours[0]? According to my records, Dave C was doing it. FWIW I had a look at Soupermail. A better effort but could still do with work. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: US$ bank account
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 10:03:12AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Anyone know of a bank that will let non US residents have a workable US$ account with dollar credit card and check (narf) book? Pretty nearly any UK high st bank will open accounts in funny money. Indeed, I have one already, but they charge like fuck for banking cheques, have stupid settlement times and not hook 'em up to their online banking. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: US$ bank account
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 10:28:00AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Indeed, I have one already, but they charge like fuck for banking cheques, have stupid settlement times and not hook 'em up to their online banking. How much is a lot? I'm about to dump a few thousand into a UK bank (HSBC) and maybe it's cheaper to convert here? On the premise that HSBC are truly international, they were my first stop. Barclays charge between £5 and £10 to bank a check. Which for a month's work is fine, but for an Amazon affiliates payment is in the realm of ouchie. And this gross assumption that I'll be at TPC...sheesh. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Mailbox power ..
Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It sounds more like your file system has corrupted and needs manual fsck (problem common to any version of UNIX running non-logging/journeling file system). If you have a remote console on it then you can fix this remotely. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. And there's me with no laptop. H... Netras have those RJ45 serial ports don't they? The kind that no-one sells cables for (well, no-one on Tottenham Court Rd) so you have to make you own? It's all coming back to me now. Those serial cables come with all kinds of stuph, Netgear ISDN routers, Cisco and so on. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Mailbox power ..
Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those serial cables come with all kinds of stuph, Netgear ISDN routers, Cisco and so on. Sure, but I'll eat my hat if I can buy one on its own on TCR. It really is too bad that CEX don't have a decent cable selection, since you can get everything else from them. Nah, blag one...I'm sure there are people round here with spares... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Not Matt's Scripts
I've got someone needing a form to mail script. Where's ours[0]? Ta, Dave [0] Oh, all right, yours since I bottled out. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
A couple more bite the dust
Blueberry and Madge.web bit the dust in the last couple of days. If you know any good graphics people, HTML slaves, coders and so on with the right attitude, and Lord knows many of you are now acquainted with Reading Room's attitute, would y'all be so kind as to let me (or them directly ;-) know... Ta, Dave
Re: Good Accountants
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, but only testing it on one browser, ignoring the - what, 30%? - that don't use IE - that's kinda silly. On a random band's site that number is more like, per hits: 3959719 IE 662895 Netscape 10 the rest It's a pity, but it's life. (And Barclays lets you use NS) -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Good Accountants
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 10:33:36PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: well .. it *does* handle them .. but ,,, errr .. sort of non cascading IYSWIM ... No it doesn't. It has almost no clue about stylesheets at all. Have you ever developed a CSS site for Netscape? And got it to work in anything like a sensible timeframe? Yes, I did. It needs tuning but it's pretty much there. *snip* Hmm, IE does stop almost immediately. THe Mac version in OS X requires a couple of presses but it's pretty well behaved otherwise (when it's not crashing or preventing me from copying the address line to the clipboard, bah). I've actually had more trouble getting Netscape to stop, YMMV, etc. NS's DNS handling is the suckiest. Blocks bloody everything. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Review of Data munging with Perl on Slashdot
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Too late! Dave... [feeling smug] Enjoy it while it lasts... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Good Accountants
Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On a similar point, can anyone recommend a good business bank account? Oxymoron. I went with Barclays because they gave 12 months free banking and could group the online banking with my personal accounts. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [london-list-summary] London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-23
Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Leon Brocard writes: Registration has opened for this year's Perl Conference in San Diego. It's gonna be a great conference - the talks all look excellent (thanks gnat!) You're welcome. I'm going to give a lightning talk at YAPC or TPC about just what a clusterfuck it was this year. Many swearwords. If I had more balls I'd do performance art in my lightning talks. My God, cover your eyes Mary! The angry man's shooting up with his own faeces! I think there's definitely scope for a bile track at any conference. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:04:55PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote: They have *the* best electric bass player in the entire world, ummm ... correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that honour bestowed on Norman Watt Roy ? Clive off of (void) told me to mention Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm and Jaco Pastorius and see what happened :-) I'll see your Jaco and raise you Dave la Rue. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month
Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hodgkinson writes: Norman Watt Roy ? Clive off of (void) told me to mention Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm and Jaco Pastorius and see what happened :-) I'll see your Jaco and raise you Dave la Rue. All good, but if you haven't seen Victor Wooten, you should. He's terrifying. Damn, I just remembered Ishaq van Niel. Saaw him quite a lot playing with Hans Dulfer's band in Amsterdam. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Broadcast datagrams
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone hackers here sent broadcast packets? I think this is how you do it: Any ideas? Well covered on page 590 of Stein's book... ;-) He uses IO::Socket BTW... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Mike Jarvis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 5:37:22 PM, David H. Adler wrote: Mike Jarvis wrote: CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. DHA Clarification: That's Freddie Prinz, Jr. His father was the star of DHA Chico and the Man, a sitcom of, uh, mid-70s vintage, I think. Don't DHA know if it ever made it across the water, though. Since Sr. is dead, Buffy always did dig dead guys... Dig _up_ dead guys? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: [HELP] Traceroute
Alex Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 05:37:34PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: You probably want: TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1: The Protocols, Gah, I've got a copy of that on my shelf. Really should get round to reading it at some point... Ah, "bought any good books lately?". There are some books that are just good to _own_ -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)
"Barbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quite. I'm 35 and was given a good basic education at Primary school of the english language, together most of it's idyosyncrasies. I was lucky enough to go to a Grammar (when there were still such things) so probably faired better than most. Fared? *ducks* -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: going extreme
Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James Powell wrote: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-5424853.html?tag=lh Cool. Where can I get me some Extreme Programming? Cheers, Philip, whose project[1] has a deadline today [1] that's been running for at least six months and was supposed to be done in November You need a project troubleshooter... Dave // Going for the flamethrower...
Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ObPerl: So which is harder to parse? Perl or English? Time flies like an arrow Fruit flies like a banana Parse that and stay fashionable... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)
Matthew Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: True. Shouldn't we also need to include "should'nt" (etc.) here as well? . These are trivially simple rules to teach/learn - so why they aren't taught (or possibly aren't learnt) says something about the education system and the attitude of the pupils therein. I don't know which education system you went through, but I was taught all this stuff at primary school. I think it's just because the pupils couln't be beggared to learn it properly (as you suggest), preferring to subscribe to the "well, you know what I mean" school of thought. soapboax Wrong. There was a concerted effort by the loony left to destroy decent education in favour of whatever trendy piffle that was the order of the day. I had to unlearn the reading I knew before I went to school in favour of some stupid phonetic system (anyone remember ITA?) in 1970, finally culminating in a personal battle with Shirley Williams in 1975 to get me into one of the last remaining decent schools in Hemel. Eventually I was packed off to a prep school instead of a hellhole comprehensive and actually being stretched (I had to catch up two years _in_ two years). Grrr. I'm as liberal as anyone here as far as creativity, expression, society and the rest go, but there are certain fundamentals that you need before you can go out and break the rules. Like having the musical basics before you go out and become a punk or a heavy metal god. Number one daughter is getting educated privately because it suits her and number one son isn't, because that suits him. But they will both be fundamentally literate and numerate. Isn't it esr who says that good Unix folks are surprisingly literate, well read, artisitcally inclined folks? /soapbox Sorry, I'll stop now. It's a nerve. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)
Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:00:08AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: I'm as liberal as anyone here as far as creativity, expression, society and the rest go, but there are certain fundamentals that you need before you can go out and break the rules. Like having the musical basics before you go out and become a punk or a heavy metal god. I agree with you about education, but all the best punk bands started off without the first idea how to play any of their instruments :-) Stranglers? The Pistols? All had their fair share of musicians...and boy, didn't the rest learn fast or die... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)
"Clarke, Darren" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An example (although slightly irrelevant to most of you it is still appropriate) I come from Luton. Most people who live there say "Lu'on" (or something). Many people have asked me over the years where I come from and don't believe me when I answer. This is a case of using 'Standard English' instead of the quasi-cockney patois the Lutonians espouse! Innit! That good old Estuary English. Fu'n 'ell. And of course, the best English speakers are probably the Scots and the Welsh. Discuss! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Silly postings
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *scroll down if you feel like it!* Sex is like pizza, melted cheese is an essential part. Greg, you _do_ worry me... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Wavelan
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my current plan of attack is probably 2 lucent/orinoco wavelan 128/RC4 cards .. one in the laptop .. one in the border router machine on an ISA adaptor .. one guy I spoke to reckoned it would work .. another reckoned I was an idjut (well we knew _that_ already ..) and you had to have a 'access point' not just two wavelan cards .. dunno which to believe as half the access points just have a wavelan card in them anyway ... I do know that they are piss expensive over here .. might wait till I go to the states ... Should work between the two cards, just make sure you have some crossover aether between the two... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Jedi
I was listening to 5 live in the car today and a caller pointed out that in the census, it takes 20,000 people to make a religion official and rather than use his usual "agnostic" box, he was going to put down "Jedi". This is a Good Thing :-) Spread the word. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Jedi
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:55PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: I was listening to 5 live in the car today and a caller pointed out that in the census, it takes 20,000 people to make a religion official and rather than use his usual "agnostic" box, he was going to put down "Jedi". This is a Good Thing :-) Spread the word. It started in the NZ census a short while ago: http://slashdot.org/articles/01/03/05/0252249.shtml I never said it was original :-) And it sounds like the guy who is running the UK census is possibly the one who did the Kiwi one. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
