Re: Perl CGI For The World Wide Web
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 12:16:03PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: Remember the discussion some months ago about what a horrible book this was? Well, I've been exchanging emails with the author since slagging her off big-time on Amazon. Somehow I've managed to make her thing that my input is useful and I've just received a copy of the second edition of the book. [snip] Dave... p.s Oh, and the acknowledgements page lists Dave Cross, who not only pointed out the problems, but also helped me solve them :) Could this be love? ;) jp
Re: BUFFY - SPOILERS , DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN SKY 1 LAST NIGHT
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 08:19:56AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 07:47:00AM +0100, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* Well what about last night? Buffy no more? Well I'm pretty sure she will be back, my reasoning - they played the normal end of show credits/ theme tune, if they had of killed the character off, there would of been a special ending. Mind you, when I explained this theory to the wife she used the phrase ``clutching at straws'' Well, how about the argument that SMG has singed up for two more series? BAH!
Re: (Chief) Wizard for hire...
On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 07:39:33PM +0100, Peter Haworth wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2001 15:43:49 +0100, James Powell wrote: Also, I see you've worked with the devil known as Illustra! Me too, condolences! Me too. I even wrote DBD::Illustra for it, although by the time I got permission to release it, no one else in the World appeared to want it. Ooh that would have been very useful for me at one time. Illustra - Nice ideas, shame about the locking approach (and lack of outer joins, etc etc)! -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remember: Perl abhors a naked circularity -- Tom Christiansen
Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 05:26:51PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: At 10:52 20/05/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Sun, 20 May 2001, Dave Cross wrote: I'm sure I'm really in the minority here, but I can't be the only one who finds all this discussion of the FHM list distasteful. I've never really understood why intelligent men find it acceptable to objectify women in this way. Although of course everyone objects most vociferously when Cosmo or some similar magazines produce a list of 'The Worlds Sexiest Men'. :) Ooh, look! Look! They're doing it to. Therefore it _must_ be alright! Personally I find it just as objectionable, but funnily enough you don't it anywhere near as much. So you don't fancy organizing a LPM Top 100 (well, maybe 25) then? jp (who confesses he has bought FHM in the past, but not for at least 3 years, when it was highbrow ;) )
Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:00:38AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... The interesting bits are as follows; The really interesting bit was Mr Ford dancing around in his living room crowing because Sara Cox had read his name out on the radio. Ahh Sara Cox - as deserving of her position in the FHM top 100 women as she is of her £750K out of the license fee for two years blathering. jp
Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:27:19PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:08:40PM +0100, Robert Thompson wrote: Having two people look at/develop a piece of code is better than one. Therefore having three people must be even better. But why stop there - why not four, five, six . . . Better yet - design/develop by committee! You've hit the fundamental problem with XP. Getting anything done requires two programmers to agree on something; this, as everyone knows, is impossible. No it isn't! (sorry) jp
Re: Enough!
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:49:18AM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:33:07AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 10:10:23AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
we are considering funding the development of a procmail-a-like for
snail-mail.
I want a procphone.
Now that's reasonably feasible. Tap the incoming audio signal and feed
it to Viavoice + Perl. Have the phone be automatically answered with a
recording of your own voice saying 'Hello?'. Feed the conversation out
to speakers for your interception and amusement - if you want to take
the call, just pick up - otherwise, the script will listen for key
phrases in the incoming response ('double glazing', 'market research',
etc, etc...) and immediately on recieving one deliver a pre-recorded
appropriate rant before hanging up. With a little more advancement, it
could be got to respond to some simple fore-spam ('Can I speak to ...' /
'speaking', etc).
Hmm. I like it, wonder if the software's up to it though.
Heh, don't forget to have a RBL-like list of source telephone numbers.
And if it's withheld, answer with a terse message and disconnect.
My girlfriend got her first SMS spam the other week... all it said
was call this number 2320340 324 CompName EX7 TL7 (or similar).
jp
Re: Enough!
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:15:32PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:04:24PM +0100, James Powell wrote: Heh, don't forget to have a RBL-like list of source telephone numbers. Definitely. A whitelist too, of course. And if it's withheld, answer with a terse message and disconnect. No; many people withhold automatically, it a legitimate privacy concern. That's what the terse message is for (reveal yourself, or bugger off). I suppose it could go to answerphone. jp
like a phoenix from the flames
The Perl Journal arrived this morning... jp
Re: BOFHs requiring license
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:23:50AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: If a man is not a socialist by the time he is twenty, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain. -Winston Churchill discuss:-) How does that explain Garry Bushell and Jim Davidson ;) jp
Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:17:51AM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:04:52AM +0100, Matthew Jones typed: When have they ever been asked? During elections. Like I say, in 1997, the UK voted in a party that was (I reckon) seen as the guardian of the public services, the party that is traditionally associated In 1997 the UK voted against the Conservatives. The policies being offered by the parties were close to identical. Money isn't enough. America spends more on education per pupil than anywhere else in the world - think that works? Yeah, but doesn't most of that go on flak jackets for the teachers? Heh, seriously, though, money may not be enough, but that doesn't translate to the education system doesn't need any more money. How about stopping and thinking about it _before_ throwing money at it just for a change, then? Government-run projects don't work, even when they're heavily funded. That's an awfully sweeping statement to make. Yes. Governments never get value for money on anything they do. Discuss. R They certainly didn't get good value for money on the Immigration cock up, handed out to EDS (or was it Perot) and then Siemens (with an army of contractors in tow). Failures all down the line there, from the very juicy insider gossip I was told. jp
Re: Bah!
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:22:07AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:54:04AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: David Cantrell wrote: http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/cv I was going to post I can't open that in Microsoft Word; please re-send it as a joke, but when I tried to open the PDF version using the Acrobat plug-in in Netscape, I got an internal error occurred and some of the letters were missing. There were some letters missing for me too under Linux. Probably just bad fonts under X11, gee what a surprise. -Dom Looked fine to me. My aren't we all nosy ;) jp
Re: cocktails
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 10:34:55AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: And they didn't eat as many waffles as we did. ahhh waffles, a classic student food - what did you eat your waffles with? i ate mine with mayo and chick sticks (fish finger like bits processed chicken) The chicken that is not fit for human consumption? mm. Gotta be Waffles with Heinz Beans Sausages (although I draw the line at the all day breakfast or full monty meals in a can). jp
Re: cocktails
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:42:40PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Chris Heathcote wrote: Off the top of my head: ICA bar, Match (Noho/Farringdon/Sosho), lab (on Old Compton St.), aka... also heard about Smiths of Smithfield, but never been there. Smiths isn't really a cocktail bar IIRC. Cocktails on the first floor there aren't bad. If you like an impressive view but condescending service, try Bar 24 in Tower 42 (ie Natwest). Otherwise I go with the Match recommendation. jp
Re: MySQL - Oracle wrapper/compat. libs
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 12:28:42PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 02:58:23AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Here's a perl question (OK, not really).. Is anyone aware of a compatibility/wrapper library which a developer could use to take an app using the MySQL API and with some (ideally) minimal munging turn it into Oracle OCI or Pro*C code? I'm faced with converting a couple of apps that have MySQL support to use OCI and it's, er, frightening to say the least (OCI manual is 1,054 PDF pages. It is in the best academic traditions for Intimidatingly Enormous Tomes deemed an introduction). Don't forget that even if you could automatically change the API over, you'd still have to change all the SQL in the API as well. Which is probably just as difficult a task, given how much SQL can vary from product to product... -Dom At least it's not as bad as Oracle - MySQL (although that would be a less likely scenario). There was a link on mysql.com about mysql being added to the Oracle migration kit that might be helpful (although probably not). jp
Re: next social meeting vs tube strike
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:48:04PM +, Steve Mynott wrote: Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Noticed on my way past the news stands last night that the next tube strike is pencilled in for May the 3rd, as is the next social meeting. OK, so the strike might not happen but if it does is this not going to make the next social meeting a bit problematic? why don't you have the social meeting a day earlier so that everyone can "work from home" with their hangovers the following day? like the quotes on "work from home" - one of the great euphemisms of our time. jp
going extreme
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-5424853.html?tag=lh jp
Re: Job: I'm looking for one..
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:59:35AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:56:36AM +0100, James Powell wrote: Course, mysql does support transactions now... I believe with two different types of table for some reason. It's because the underlying table type is implemented using Berkeley DB3, which does support transactions. And that has several modes of operation, hash, btree and recno. I haven't looked into it, but I would imagine that it makes transactions across different tables kind of tricky. In fact, I'd class it as a bit of a hack. But don't take my opinion for it, because this is all based on 2nd hand evidence. -Dom But as well as Berkeley there's innobase and gemini (not in yet?) table types that support transactions. http://www.mysql.com/documentation/mysql/bychapter/manual_Table_types.html I can't say I've used any of them or would trust any of them... And MySQL has got full-text indexing now - didn't notice that one http://www.mysql.com/news/article-54.html "MySQL 3.23 now has full-text indexing and searching capabilities. This allows you to search your vast databases of textual information, with queries returning search string occurrence/relevance." Incidentally, saw your ssh letter in the new LJ... jp
Re: Job: I'm looking for one..
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:30:41AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: well .. since in most web based uses of MySQL the 99% of queries are simple 'select * from blah where something=something_else' .. the speed is all you need .. every now and again there is reason to add a user or, very occasionally, someone buys something .. and those bits have the pseudo-transactions in .. yeah .. its slow, but I'd ratehr have that bit slow and the rest lightning quick than pretyy much anything else .. But the *REALLY IMPORTANT* uses of the database are the ones where you're moving money about and doing order fulfillment. And guess what, those *must* be transactional. Course, mysql does support transactions now... I believe with two different types of table for some reason. Foreign keys and subselects still no... When it supports full text indexing I'll get excited. jp
Re: mmm ... toys ..
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 01:59:18AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: mmm .. by some dint of fate I appear to be the proud owner of a rather nice new Dell laptop. Bit slow ( 850mhz P3 ) and 128 mb of ram is hardly enough to run Vi in is it .. a poxy 32Gb hard disc means I'll probably run out of space soon too. (thinks .. this is considerably more powerful than my workstation .. h..) Sounds acceptable to me, I'll have it if you don't want it. Alternatively if anyone has one of the titanium macs going spare? all I need to do now is partition magic it and install Linux ... does anyone know if fips.exe can resize partitons without hoovering the lot ?? or shuold I get partition magic anyway ? I've found gnu parted to be good - should be able to get it on a linux boot disk somewhere. jp
Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-03-19
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 07:45:54PM +, Leon Brocard wrote: And finally, it appears that Schwern, Michael is an Alien Drag Queen: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg03105.html http://us.imdb.com/Title?0103645 Excellent, Trevor McDonald style "And finally" wrap-up to the news! jp ps - For an extra point, what show had an impression of Trevor McDonald called "Trevor McDoughnut"?
Re: Perl Training Courses
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 04:31:06PM -, Matthew Jones wrote: What do you need? If you can get three or four people interested in doing the same course and can supply a suitable room, then Iterative would be only too happy to help you out. I'm interested if there are courses on offer. There's only so much you can do with just yourself and a pile of O'Reilly books. The mind boggles ;) jp
xemacs / cperl question
Anyone know how to stop xemacs cperl-mode to stop knackering it's
auto-tab indentation after you confuse it with a line like
my $dbh = ${$self-{params}-{dbh}};
(doesn't seem to like the curly braces).
jp
wasn't someone looking for some diagramming - SQL stuff recently?
http://freshmeat.net/projects/dia2sql/ jp
Re: Graphical Documentation
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 10:40:35AM +, Mark Fowler wrote: Oh, there seems to be something odd with that server set up. Because my copy of Gnome-Terminal does url catching I can Ctrl-Click on any url and it pops up in netscape. However, being a good url catcher it matches the '.' at the end of the url (as it should do.) Now this is really odd, as 'http://www.codewerk.com./' does not show the same thing as 'http://www.codewerk.com/' (which it should do as 'www.codewerk.com.profero.com' or 'www.codewerk.com.loc0.profero.com' doesn't exist on our network.) This is most odd. I've tried it from other locations (via the wonders of ssh tunnelling) and I get the same thing. Mark. Is it running a lightweight apache reverse-proxy and backend mod_perl? I believe that can do it. jp
good job there weren't any base belongs to us t-shirts printed
Might have ended up like the last programme here (not for the easily offended) http://www.tvgohome.com/
Re: Ruby
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 02:56:28PM +, Rob Partington wrote: In message BF7C70E24CF5D311B52F00B0D0215D411B13FE@IH_SERVER, "Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey, Dude. The language Ruby looks really cool. Can anyone tell me: It is really cool. 1. Why on earth you'd use Python instead of Ruby. I wouldn't any more. The only reasons I used Python were sensible OO and the XML parsing was less painful than XML::Parser at the time. Now I get my OO from Ruby, and my sensible XML parsing from XML::DOM or XML::XPath. 2. If anyone here has used it for production code and knows more about it. Yes, I use it, and I know a bit about it. It's fun. Can you give us some more details, I'm interested too ;) What's the performance like, library availability, can you recommend any of the books on it etc etc? jp
GnuPG::Interface CGI
GnuPG::Interface seems to screw with CGI.pm, as it grabs stdin stdout through GnuPG::Handles. You end up getting repeated output in the browser. I don't suppose anyone else has combined the two, and even better come up with a solution? jp ps - these t-shirt suggestions are reminding me of harry enfield loadsamoney "shut your mouth and look at my wad" 80s shirts!
Re: Fwd: MacWorld Tokyo Keynote Report
G4 "tit" Powerbook? [insert joke] On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 11:18:10AM +, Neil Ford wrote: For anyone interested. Neil Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 02:48:59 + To: lmug-talk-yahoogroups.com From: Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tokyo Keynote Report Cc: Bcc: X-Attachments: [snip] finder toolbar is customizable Pre-load will begin July when a larger number of apps are available G4 Tit Powerbook Final Cut Pro runs 60% faster than on the G3 powerbook compared it to the Sony Vaio Z505VR/K
Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 08:48:36AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Mike Jarvis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Piers Cawley wrote: [snip] but american hotels are so much better ... they have those giant 3-person size beds, almost all of them have minibars, decent showers and the staff give something those strange american chappies call ``customer service'', that would never catch on in the uk, oh no - we like to be treated like shit and squeezed into a single bed, needing to get up at some ridiculous time in the middle of the night just to guarantee warm water for the shower If you want excellent customer service, I can really, really recommend the Mandarin Oriental in Hong Kong. Not very handy for Manhattan though (although I see they have one opening in 2003). jp
Re: In defence of Perl
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 12:16:57PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: [snip] As one of the requirements listed was content management you can through in the BBC, especially the interactive telly division. Heck, they even gave a presentation at YAPC::Europe. they even won a BAFTA for some of the stuff they (we) did with perl http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net/pics/greg_bafta_bw.jpeg You've just photoshopped a BAFTA on to a picture of meatloaf receiving his lifetime achievement award at the VH-1 music awards! jp
Re: Bad programming considered harmless
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 06:56:02PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: Michael Stevens wrote: (pedantry: There *are* applications where bad programming could kill. I don't think any of us work in them, but I'm pretty sure they exist.) Look at what Sun says Java is not suitable for to get a short list. IIRC they included stuff such as life support machinery in hospitals, air traffic control, and nuclear reactors. Space Shuttle or manned-space-flight rocket control logic probably should also be bug free. Perhaps this is why there isn't "Nuclear Reactor Control: Visual Quickstart Guide". A gap in the market? jp
Re: Perl Books
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:39:24AM +, Robin Szemeti wrote: [big snip] no .. its not (for want of a better word) rocket science, but to do it correctly does require a broad range of knowledge about several different systems and really what Ms Castro attempts to do is give a bit of all of that to a readership that simply wants to bang something into their homepage and for it to work. I agree that the documenttion was not 'good' by professional standards but it was a book for non-programmers. a sort of paperback intro to half of what they needed to know. I have issues with how shes goes about it (like CGI.pm would have made life soo much easier ) and some of the perl is awful, but I beleive that readership it was aimed at would have gone all glassy eyed and fallen over backwards at the word 'subroutine' and run off screaming if you said 'regex'... AHH! REGEX! (runs away) (sorry) Totally unrelated, I wish they'd open a PC Bookshop in Farringdon. jp
Re: Perl Books
Those 15 minutes (each way, probably about 20 from where I am) come out of my pay packet! And it doesn't stay open late enough in the evening. I've been spoilt, I used to work at Tower 42 (was natwest tower) and the city branch was a well lobbed copy of an o'reilly book (preferably mysql msql) away. I can also recommend the bar in Tower 42 as a place to take friends to impress them (well, apart the snooty bar staff and average cocktails). jp On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 12:36:53PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: From: "James Powell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Totally unrelated, I wish they'd open a PC Bookshop in Farringdon. Don't be so lazy :) You can walk to Holborn in under 15 minutes. /Robert
Re: Amazon Sales Rank
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:42:24PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:39:08PM +, Michael Stevens typed: Now if they'd just actually send me the copy I ordered... (I think they said 3-5 weeks) Ditto. It's one of the 9 things remaining before they ship my latest order. Roger WHSmith's www.bookshop.co.uk is good for this as they are incapable of storing orders so have to send each book when they get it (so you can end up with deliveries on subsequent days). They're also pretty competitive with Amazon. jp
Re: .emacs
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 09:55:58AM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:13:11PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: Robin said: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 07:53:00PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: 2) Got any nice bits of your .emacs file to share? Hmm, well this: (add-hook 'ange-ftp-process-startup-hook '(lambda () (ange-ftp-raw-send-cmd proc "passive on"))) enables ange-ftp mode to work from inside our firewall. Not very exciting unless you have the same problem... I can't get this to work. At least not with efs under xemacs. It just hangs after issuing the command. Unfortunately, my elisp debugging skills aren't up to sorting it out. :-( -Dom You'll be wanting ;; efs passive FTP mode as behind firewall (setq efs-use-passive-mode t) If you want to send some passwords in plaintext then ;) jp (who has trouble getting OpenSSH's scp to work)
Re: TT vs EmbPerl (was Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit])
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 10:33:30AM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On 30 Jan 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Add to that, generating mails to Nominet and Network (ack!) Solutions, Which is exactly what I was using it for yesterday :) Well except not Netowrk Solutions as we are using another registrar ... Interestingly .tv use gpg-signed messages sent over https... for all aspects of registration. They supply (slightly dodgy) perl modules as well. jp
Re: fspi
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:12:01PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: i got a shiny copy of Dave's book in the post on saturday, very nice indeed -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net Where did you get it from so quickly? Direct from Manning? jp
Re: List Archive ( was SUBSCRIBE london-list archive@jab.org (fwd))
Phew, just missed my 29th Sept post where I detailed my plans for a perl script to overthrow the government. jp On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 12:01:21PM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: For those that might be interested this was when mail-archive started archiving london-list. /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk | -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 07:11:22 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SUBSCRIBE london-list archive@jab.org -- archive@jab.org has been added to london-list. No action is required on your part.
Re: Dumb-assed question
On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 11:05:49AM +, Struan Donald wrote: * at 25/01 10:37 + Michael Stevens said: On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:02:25PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dreamweaver (I know, don't ask) nicely escapes the spaces to %20 but when I try and download these, the %20 appears in the Netscape file save as box instead of spaces. Dreamweaver is by far the best GUI html development tool I'm aware of. the number of times i've sent stuff to people that works fine, had them run it through dreamweaver and then complain that it's broken makes me wonder what the bad gui tools are like. struan Waiter, a copy of Frontpage 2000 for the gentleman! jp
Re: Mailing List Archive
On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 11:24:44PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Robin Houston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:14:08PM +, Leon Brocard wrote: o grow up Hey! No need to get defensive till you lose the vote :-) i vote for no vote, keep things as they are if people object to their views being public, don't post them in what is a public forum - if this is still a problem, then the question should be should london.pm become a private forum, with people being added after a vote - this smells fishy to me ;-) ;-) ;-) [1] personally, the day london.pm becomes a private, invite only forum, i'll be off to london-public.pm's mailing list (this may make london.pm even more popular for those sensitive to signal/noise) - as for google knowing too much about you, welcome too 1984+17 I don't have a problem with it, apart from not knowing about it beforehand, especially as mail-archive.com doesn't seem to reveal email addresses but I think making the list "private" is a different argument from putting up a web-accessible archive. To make it harder for google to find you - change your name Prince style. jp
Re: odd -w effect
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:39:13PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:36:40PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:31:28PM +, Michael Stevens typed: I propose we drag these people and drop them in those big rubbish bins you see outside offices. DD is vaguely useful sometimes. Just not when I'm editing text. I hate to say it, but I'm slowly becoming converted to windows cut paste. I like being able to highlight a block of text and hit ctrl-v to replace that with the contents of the clipboard. Presume you have Pending-delete-mode in Xemacs set up then I also have this in my .emacs (ctrl changed to alt, just to confuse me when moving platforms but not to confuse emacs or X). ;; windows emu (require 'pc-select) (pc-select-mode t) (global-set-key [(alt c)] copy-primary-selection) (global-set-key [(alt v)] yank) (global-set-key [(alt x)] copy-region-as-kill) (global-set-key [(alt left)] backward-word) (global-set-key [(alt right)] forward-word) (global-set-key [(alt up)] backward-paragraph) (global-set-key [(alt down)] forward-paragraph)
Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:21:45AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:16:59 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: there is a big question here, do people want to create a small business with a few perl programmers all on largish salaries or do people want to create a proper consulting business aiming to see it grow Both, of course :-) yip, but you have to make a choice Why? Is there a good reason why the former couldn't gradually over time metamorphose into the latter? Dave... I presume if the vast majority of the money is going directly into people's pockets there won't be much going into things that build the infrastructure of the company - training and so on. Also one way to build a business is to create a "product" and build round that (eg cough spew choke Vignette). Working on this sort of thing may not result in great income in the short term compared to say chucking ten people off to Goldman Sachs. jp
Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:08:41AM +, alex wrote: In my opinion London would be fine for an August conference. I don't know what the fuss is about, really. London is not like Paris in the summer. We have a lot more parks. Perhaps September would be better, but hey. Yeah ditto... jp
Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:47:37AM +, Marcel Grunauer wrote: David Cantrell writes: Actually I'd rather it not be in the UK at all. After all, if my employers are going to pay to send me to a conference, then they may as well pay to send me somewhere nice. Rome. Or Vienna perhaps, cos I've never been there. Good idea, hold it in Vienna. Makes for an easy commute (for a change). This means nothing to me, ohhh... (sorry)
Re: Forwarded : RE: [Tottenham] Preview la-di-da-da
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 08:05:26PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * James Powell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 04:45:17PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Steve Purkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Come on you spurs... ;-) its the big one soon steven, Spurs vs. the Arse -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net Got tickets, bit too near the gooners for my liking. just how many tickets do you have my old mate ;-) (a) You have to have a members book (b) Compensation for redialling the ticketline number for hours will run into a considerable sum of money ;) jp
Re: me-commerce
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 12:04:28PM +, jo walsh wrote: - support for multiple transaction handlers (iPin, DataCash) Erk, had some trouble with DataCash (and worldpay come to that). Make sure you have some redundancy in this area (as Datacash don't) jp
