Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Simon Wistow
Simon Cozens wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 11:04:19AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: that Mail::Cclient is powerful but complicated and can be a bitch to install, And use. Ripping that fucker out would be my first act. :) There's also http://www.horde.org/imp/ which is reasonably popular.

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 11:17:14AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: But Mail::Cclient is also unbeleivably powerful. Lying round on my HD there's a Mail::Cclient::Simple which amkes everything much easier but it's one of many projects I've never got round to finishing. Why reinvent the wheel by

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Mark Fowler
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Simon Cozens wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 11:17:14AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: But Mail::Cclient is also unbeleivably powerful. Lying round on my HD there's a Mail::Cclient::Simple which amkes everything much easier but it's one of many projects I've never got

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread AEF
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Simon Wistow wrote: Imp was crap when we started and it's also PHP based. I like PHP (/me gets coat) but I wouldn't do a large scale application in it (especially since I had just just done one then and hit some very large limitations) Could you elaborate on that a

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:06:13PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: But they fixed references in 6.0! No, wait, they just introduced a load of Thread-* headers :-( Fucking morons. They just innovated threading! Tell me you're joking. If I was joking I wouldn't have ignore Thread-

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 07:49 23/05/01 +0100, you wrote: At 17:37 22/05/2001, Roger Burton West wrote: And get a shell account, why don't you? Thanks. I already have several. [snip] Much as I'd love it if everyone was to be able to post to the list from their favourite Unix mail client all the time,

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Philip Newton
Simon Wistow wrote: the DBI abstraction was, well, nonexistent. As in, if your script has lots of calls to mysql_this and mysql_that, it doesn't look very database independent. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of

Expect problem

2001-05-23 Thread john . hearns
Hi all - time for me to delurk. (dashes in from the shadows). I've bent my brain with Expect yesterday and today, and need someone to (metaphorically) hit me round the head and tell me what to do right. The scenario: I wish to run a program, imapxfer, which transfers imap email between two

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-23 Thread Niklas Nordebo
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:52:39PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: However, the cool futuristic stuff like CORRECT BLOODY WORK WRAPPING is I generally avoid this issue by not working so much that it needs wrapping. -- Niklas Nordebo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +447966251290 The day is seven hours

Re: Expect problem

2001-05-23 Thread Mark Rogaski
An entity claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : : How can I get things to wait till the spawned program finishes, or at : least let it finish properly. : I've just had success by putting in an infinite wait : unless ($command-expect(undef, nonsense)) { :}; : But that

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-23 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:18:07AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:17:11PM +0100, Barbie wrote: Bugger! Brain thinking faster than my hands! Your hands *think*??? in fact, it was a recent Angel episode Only

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-23 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:52:39PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:32:09PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Much as I'd love it if everyone was to be able to post to the list from their favourite Unix mail client all the time,

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-23 Thread Neil Ford
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 01:53:54PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: (http://www.twoshortplanks.com/simon/filmfest/) Time for yet another movie marathon since people have been carping on about it grin and this time it's the long awaited hacksploitation night - exploring the interesting and, umm,

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-23 Thread Leon Brocard
Simon Wistow sent the following bits through the ether: If anybody has any of these ... I could bring along Real Genius? (slightly more old-skool hackers though) Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative

Buffy gear

2001-05-23 Thread Barry Pretsell
QVC are selling lots of Buffy gear, tune into QVC now, or check out the wbesite http://www.qvcuk.com/ukgasp/frameset.asp?nest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qvcuk.com%2Fukgscripts%2FSearch.dllsearch=1frames=yCriteria=Buffy

Re: Buffy gear

2001-05-23 Thread Dean
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:18:23PM +0100, Barry Pretsell wrote: QVC are selling lots of Buffy gear, tune into QVC now, or check out the wbesite Charisma Carpenter 'Cordelia' Signed Photo £64... Now i'm scared... Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand ---

RE: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: From: Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:43 AM Cross David - dcross sent the following bits through the ether: This, of course, presupposes that acmemail passes everyone's definition of a decent mail

Re: Buffy gear

2001-05-23 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:18:23PM +0100, Barry Pretsell wrote: QVC are selling lots of Buffy gear, tune into QVC now, or check out the wbesite Charisma Carpenter 'Cordelia' Signed Photo £64... Now i'm scared... you mean the suggestion of going to QVC

Re: Buffy gear

2001-05-23 Thread Dave Cross
At 19:16 23/05/2001, Dean wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:18:23PM +0100, Barry Pretsell wrote: QVC are selling lots of Buffy gear, tune into QVC now, or check out the wbesite Charisma Carpenter 'Cordelia' Signed Photo £64... Now i'm scared... Far cheaper on Yahoo Auctions:

POSIX::localeconv()/Germany

2001-05-23 Thread Mike Jarvis
Anybody have experience with POSIX localization functions/clients in Germany? I've got a client in .de that wants prices to look like this: DEM 1.234,00 i.e., the thousands sep is a . and the decimal is a ,. The posix routines return a space for the thousands sep and a dot for the decimal, so

Re: Buffy gear

2001-05-23 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Barry Pretsell wrote: QVC are selling lots of Buffy gear, tune into QVC now, or check out the wbesite eughh! when you say 'Buffy gear' do you mean as in 'we guarantee these were worn by Buffy ... ' or something entirely more celeubrious ? fed up of finding pr0n

Re: POSIX::localeconv()/Germany

2001-05-23 Thread Dave Cross
At 20:18 23/05/2001, you wrote: Anybody have experience with POSIX localization functions/clients in Germany? I've got a client in .de that wants prices to look like this: DEM 1.234,00 i.e., the thousands sep is a . and the decimal is a ,. The posix routines return a space for the thousands sep

Re: Buffy gear

2001-05-23 Thread Barry Pretsell
eughh! when you say 'Buffy gear' do you mean as in 'we guarantee these were worn by Buffy ... ' or something entirely more celeubrious ? no looks like the usual crap: 1 in a billion signed prints and magazines, no soiled clothes... - Original Message - From: Robin Szemeti

Re: POSIX::localeconv()/Germany

2001-05-23 Thread Mike Jarvis
Wednesday, May 23, 2001, 2:45:24 PM, Dave Cross wrote: DC Haven't tried the routine you're talking about, but if you ever decide to DC give up on them, the Number::Format module (from CPAN) will solve all of DC your problems. After RTFM'ing about that fine module, I thought I found my

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Leon Brocard
Chris Ball sent the following bits through the ether: I used to use At-mail a lot at work. Pseudo-interesting question of the day; do you really feel it was ripped off (in the stigmatism-attached sense of the word), or given that it was GPLed or Artistic'd anyway, that it's fair play to them

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:50:47PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: @Mail (http://webbasedemail.com/) copied my code, my docs, and my images without telling me, added a configuration file, and sold it. I only found out about it by accident, which wasn't good. (it's changed a lot since). This is

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-23 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:23:49PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: You should use Damian's Text::AutoFormat. I just used it to reformat the bit above beginning with Indeed. Lovely thing. Have you integrated into a mail server (module, procmail, whatever) so that it gets cleaned on the way in,

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-23 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:41:33PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:23:49PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: You should use Damian's Text::AutoFormat. I just used it to reformat the bit above beginning with Indeed. Lovely thing. Have you integrated into a mail server

Re: TPC talk practice / technical meet

2001-05-22 Thread Neil Ford
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 11:34:21PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: Neil Ford sent the following bits through the ether: Will you be requiring a projector for this? Yes please! Will you be coming down or can we send someone to borrow your projector for the day? ;-) ps looks like Simon

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-22 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 23:30 21/05/2001, David H. Adler wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:28:24AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: Don't think anyone writes technical books for money. If they do, then they're in for a big shock. ...and you can just imagine how much more

Re: penderel going down for a little while

2001-05-22 Thread AEF
On Mon, 21 May 2001, jo walsh wrote: please wibble at me soon if this will cause you problems, or wibble at me or alex tomorrow if there are things you feel you're missing. I don't seem to have my yacht or my large villa in Southern France. Is this your fault? Tony

MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Barbie
Using the code below, and calling the routine with a *.jpg file. Why does the mime_type return text/plain? I've also tried using MIME::Head-read with a filehandle and it returns the same. I would investigate CPAN further for clues (and the examples that ActivePerl decided not to include), but it

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 13:27 22/05/01 +0100, you wrote: I don't know if you are parsing mail or something else, but in the past I've had luck with MIME::Parser using the effective_type() method to get the mime type out of emails. If you are trying to figure it out magically based on just the file format or

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Barbie
From: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dunno about your MIME problem (sorry), but somebody on irc mentioned trying cpan2.org instead. Ahh! Got it. Thanks. Found the following: Due to nonuniqueness of MIME encodings, there is a very good chance that your output will not Iexactly resemble

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Barbie
From: Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know if you are parsing mail or something else, Isolated file. If you are trying to figure it out magically based on just the file format or filename or something (e.g. just pointing it at a raw jpeg) I didn't think MIME:: would help. Could

RE: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Robert Thompson
I don't know if you are parsing mail or something else, Isolated file. If you are trying to figure it out magically based on just the file format or filename or something (e.g. just pointing it at a raw jpeg) I didn't think MIME:: would help. Unfortunately I have to rely on

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:48:17PM +0100, Robert Thompson typed: Open up the file, read in the first few bytes and grab the magic number. Most types of binary file have a marker of some kind to designate what they are. Any half decent book on graphics programming should be able to tell

RE: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Robert Thompson
From: Roger Burton West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] man 1 file man 5 magic less /usr/share/misc/magic # on many systems except anything written my MS of course... Rob --- Any views expressed in this message are those of the

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Barbie
From: Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Roger Burton West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] man 1 file man 5 magic less /usr/share/misc/magic # on many systems except anything written my MS of course... Which is precisely what this install of ActivePerl sits on. Luckily I have a

RE: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Robert Thompson
This site contains info about the raw file formats of numerous graphic types, including sig/header block formats. All useful for anyone wanting to play with graphics. http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/~mxr/gfx/ Rob --- Any views expressed in

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 03:06:39PM +0100, Barbie wrote: From: Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Roger Burton West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] man 1 file man 5 magic less /usr/share/misc/magic # on many systems except anything written my MS of course... Which is

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:02:33PM +0100, Simon Wistow typed: According to the Register ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/19112.html the Tory's want to repeal IR35, make RIPA less strict and speed up Local Loop unbundling, whereas Labour want to introduce laws meaning that if

OT: Eiswein

2001-05-22 Thread Chris Heathcote
(because people were talking about it) http://just-drinks.com/news_detail.asp?art=12376dm=yes ROME, May 21 (Reuters) - Canada has won the right to compete with Germany and Austria in supplying Europeans with Icewine, a sugary dessert wine made from grapes harested in freezing temperatures. c.

tpj #20

2001-05-22 Thread Nathan Torkington
Nobody noticed that in my article's code examples I revealed my pick for sexiest slayer on Buffy. Pout. Nat

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Chris Heathcote
on 22/5/01 4:02 pm, Simon Wistow wrote: the Tory's want to repeal IR35, make RIPA less strict and speed up Local Loop unbundling, whereas Labour want to introduce laws meaning that if you pretend to be a teenager on the Net you can be jailed for 5 years (bad luck bK). It seems that every

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:16:16PM +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote: From air-conditioned tubes, thru to RIPA, to cheap petrol, it's bandwagon-jumping. Ah, congratulations! You seem to have been completely politically brainwashed; it's become so de rigeur for parties to completely disregard the

Attributes galore

2001-05-22 Thread Marcel Grunauer
This is something like a request for comments. Playing around with attributes (as per Attribute::Handler), I've done several more attribute handlers and have also bundled a few into one module but am not quite sure what to call it. First, here are examples of those handlers: 1) Attribute::Tools

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Simon Wistow wrote: According to the Register ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/19112.html the Tory's want to repeal IR35, make RIPA less strict and speed up Local Loop unbundling, whereas Labour want to introduce laws meaning that if you pretend to be a

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 16:02 22/05/01 +0100, you wrote: the Tory's want to repeal IR35, make RIPA less strict and speed up Local Loop unbundling, whereas Labour want to introduce laws meaning that if you pretend to be a teenager on the Net you can be jailed for 5 years (bad luck bK). They are politicians. They

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Chris Heathcote
on 22/5/01 4:19 pm, Robin Szemeti wrote: thank goodness for proportioanl representation, it should make the next parliament a lot more representative of what people actually want, ratehr than a choice between 2 (and a half ) evils. Errr... no PR yet for general elections! Slight aside, but

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Simon Wistow
Simon Cozens wrote: I've yet to hear a Labour MP talk eloquently about anything at all. Anyone ever talked - sorry, tried talking - to their MP about RIP? Harriet Harman tried to tell me that I didn't really know about computers or the Internet. Personally I don't believe a word anybody says

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Leon Brocard
Chris Heathcote sent the following bits through the ether: It seems that every promise in the Tory manifesto is based on hearsay It'd be okay if they were based on shaggy or fat boy slim... Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 16:31 22/05/01 +0100, you wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:16:16PM +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote: From air-conditioned tubes, thru to RIPA, to cheap petrol, it's bandwagon-jumping. Ah, congratulations! You seem to have been completely politically brainwashed; i The cynicism of the

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Paul Mison
On 22/05/2001 at 16:19 +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: the immediate feeling I get is to rent some cellars at the houses of parliament and invest in a number of big barrels of gunpowder .. oh hang on that ones been done before and had a distinctly negative outcome .. OK .. perhaps someting more

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Chris Heathcote
on 22/5/01 4:46 pm, Simon Wistow wrote: Simon Cozens wrote: I've yet to hear a Labour MP talk eloquently about anything at all. Anyone ever talked - sorry, tried talking - to their MP about RIP? Harriet Harman tried to tell me that I didn't really know about computers or the Internet.

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-22 Thread David H. Adler
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 08:43:39AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 23:30 21/05/2001, David H. Adler wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:28:24AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: Don't think anyone writes technical books for money. If they do, then

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:44:25PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: We vote for the encumbent party until they screw up big time and then we switch and repeat the process. Except we don't while they can arrange for elections to be when everyone's forgotten about their big screwups. Also, in

Eh up! Abysinnia!

2001-05-22 Thread Dan Packer
Greg McCarroll and his (extraordinarily) lovely wife have, for the time being, sufficiently brainwashed me as to convince me to for some indeterminate amount of time, muck-in this kooky kerfuffle. And lastly, in the tradition of me old beloved ny.pm, but not leastly (but yeastly), BEER. The

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 17:01 22/05/01 +0100, you wrote: Right, yes, which is why we - sorry, you plural, I was way out of the country at the time - elected Labour based on their fantastic performance last time which lead to the General Strike and the Winter of Discontent. Sorry, a nanosecond of thought would show

Re: Eh up! Abysinnia!

2001-05-22 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 12:06 22/05/01 -0400, you wrote: If you haven't guessed, i'm from the states. Ah. So 'Mars' wasn't too close. :-) -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:16:41PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Labour were voted in on the basis of the Tories screw ups. Yes, so what you said about the party's previous record as, indeed, irrelevant. Labour hasn't screwed up yet. Thanks, that's going in my sigfile. Oh, and fix your

RE: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Cross David - dcross
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:03 PM According to the Register ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/19112.html the Tory's want to repeal IR35, I've not actually seen the manifesto, but from what I'm told it really means font size=bloody huge

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:23:32PM +0100, Cross David - dcross typed: I've not actually seen the manifesto, but from what I'm told it really means If you can't be bothered to take a few minutes to look, why the hell are you posting about it? The actual text is: A future Conservative

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:37:23PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote: If you can't be bothered to take a few minutes to look, why the hell are you posting about it? But I wanna type, I wanna type, I wanna type! Roger, where we come from we have a word for people like that. -- I did write and

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Chris Heathcote
on 22/5/01 5:26 pm, Robin Szemeti wrote: Errr... no PR yet for general elections! really .. are you sure ? .. I'm certain this lot said they were going to do something about that ... how odd. It was part of the buttering-up in case of a need for a Lib-Lab pact. It's certainly been pushed

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-22 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 22 May 2001, David H. Adler wrote: Hey, maybe it's one of those cheapo 'made in China' jobs. Of course, if it paid for a Martin or a Lowden or something else equally lovely, then well done Mr Adler. Ah, I wish... The truth is somewhere in between. I got a Burns Marquee. The

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Philip Newton
Robert Thompson wrote: This site contains info about the raw file formats of numerous graphic types, including sig/header block formats. And there's always http://www.wotsit.org/ The Programmer's File Format Collection. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my

Re: Happy Happy Joy Joy!

2001-05-22 Thread Philip Newton
David H. Adler wrote: dha, who thinks the overseas copies got somehow shipped before the domestic ones... I *think* I read once that that's their policy. It's a nice move, since overseas people have to wait longer anyway -- so if their copies are shipped earlier, they might just get them no

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Leon Brocard
Cross David - dcross sent the following bits through the ether: [SNIP!] Please fix your mailer to do proper In-Reply-To and References headers. It's really really annoying. Leon -- ... Money is the root of all wealth

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:25:36PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: Thanks, that's going in my sigfile. Your sigfile is a mighty repository of evil. Martin

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 06:49:01PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: Cross David - dcross sent the following bits through the ether: [SNIP!] Please fix your mailer to do proper In-Reply-To and References headers. It's really really annoying. I *loathe* Exchange. But they fixed references in

[OT] Food exports?

2001-05-22 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Someone just laid what I think is a fresh urban myth on me, but is there any kind of embargo on comestibles going from England to France? Like even wrapped chocolate? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star

Re: [OT] Food exports?

2001-05-22 Thread Barry Pretsell
embargo has been due to foot and mouth, embargo is bi-directional and covers meat as well. - Original Message - From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 7:22 PM Subject: [OT] Food exports? Someone just laid what I think is a fresh

Re: [OT] Food exports?

2001-05-22 Thread Barry Pretsell
Here's the leaflets given to travellers http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/int-trde/misc/foot/flyer.pdf - Original Message - From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 7:22 PM Subject: [OT] Food exports? Someone just laid what I think

Re: [OT] Food exports?

2001-05-22 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Barry Pretsell wrote: Here's the leaflets given to travellers http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/int-trde/misc/foot/flyer.pdf Strangely enough .. I have friends in North Wales who had reason to have speach (in welsh, unsurprisingly) with a local farmer the other day. Seems

Re: [OT] Food exports?

2001-05-22 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Barry Pretsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's the leaflets given to travellers http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/int-trde/misc/foot/flyer.pdf oops :-) -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star

Re: [OT] Food exports?

2001-05-22 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Barry Pretsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: embargo has been due to foot and mouth, embargo is bi-directional and covers meat as well. Any references to this? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star

[announce] Tie::Hash::Rank

2001-05-22 Thread David Cantrell
I've just put a complete version of Tie::Hash::Rank on my webshite for your enjoyment. I'd be grateful if some of you could download it and test it before I submit it to CPAN. http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/tech/Tie-Hash-Rank-1.0.tar.gz It has what I hope is a comprehensive test suite

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:11:23AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: I *loathe* Exchange. But they fixed references in 6.0! No, wait, they just introduced a load of Thread-* headers :-( Fucking morons. They just innovated threading! Tell me you're joking. Martin

Re: [announce] Tie::Hash::Rank

2001-05-22 Thread Marcel Grunauer
On Tuesday, May 22, 2001, at 09:32 PM, David Cantrell wrote: I've just put a complete version of Tie::Hash::Rank on my webshite for 'webshite'? shurely shome mishtake? your enjoyment. I'd be grateful if some of you could download it and test it before I submit it to CPAN.

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Paul Mison wrote: On 22/05/2001 at 16:19 +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: the immediate feeling I get is to rent some cellars at the houses of parliament and invest in a number of big barrels of gunpowder .. oh hang on that ones been done before and had a distinctly

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Alex Gough
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote: hmmm .. I was tempted just to let it pass .. but I can't resist ;) What you need to remember is this : They will say ANYTHING to get your vote .. ANYTHING. Even the truth? I'd very much doubt that. Alex Gough -- I don't believe that honesty

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:14:05PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:11:23AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: I *loathe* Exchange. But they fixed references in 6.0! No, wait, they just introduced a load of Thread-* headers :-( Fucking morons. They just innovated

Re: [announce] Tie::Hash::Rank

2001-05-22 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 10:17:18PM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote: Looks good. Also works with Attribute::TieClasses (once I had replaced the '#!/usr/bin/perl -w' with 'use warnings', mysteriously). Perhaps because I have a 'no warnings' in T::H::R? -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Re: MIME stuff - Am I missing something?

2001-05-22 Thread Gareth Harper
From: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 03:06:39PM +0100, Barbie wrote: From: Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Roger Burton West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] man 1 file man 5 magic less /usr/share/misc/magic # on many systems except

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread robert shiels
- Original Message - From: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women At 20:50 20/05/2001, Mike Jarvis wrote: Sunday, May 20, 2001, 3:19:47 AM, Dave Cross wrote:

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread James Powell
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 05:26:51PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: At 10:52 20/05/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Sun, 20 May 2001, Dave Cross wrote: I'm sure I'm really in the minority here, but I can't be the only one who finds all this discussion of the FHM list distasteful. I've never

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-21 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 05:05:20PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: At 13:27 20/05/2001, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: You can't expect to steal music and then bitch about how someone is stealing copies of your book on line. True. But just so as we know where we all stand. I have only ever used

Re: Marcel Grunauer left on all night

2001-05-21 Thread Marcel Grunauer
On Monday, May 21, 2001, at 10:39 AM, Simon Wistow wrote: .. get some sleep boy, you're making the rest of us look bad :) Doctor Someone forgot to terminate my program. Hello. Hello? /Doctor As I was on all weekend as well, expect some more attribute stuff rsn. Marcel -- my int ($x, $y,

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Simon Wistow
Robin Szemeti wrote: I suspect the current 'Lad's' magazines phase is a backlash against the crazy political correctness of the 80's .. hopefully the whole thing will settle down eventually. If you see it lying around the reading 'Getting away with it - the story of Loaded' by Tim Southwell

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Barbie
From: robert shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED] According to a recent survey, men say the first thing they notice about a women are their eyes. And women say the first thing they notice about men are: they're a bunch of liars. That's not quite true. Women initial assume that all men are automatically

RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Cross David - dcross
From: Barbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:58 AM From: robert shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED] According to a recent survey, men say the first thing they notice about a women are their eyes. And women say the first thing they notice about men are: they're a bunch of liars.

RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Matthew Jones
Dave Cross: And besides, since when could you work out how sexy a woman (or man) was simply by looking at a photo. Its in the eyes, Dave, its in the eyes. See, I find it's in the personality. Which doesn't come across too well in glossy magazine. Hmmm. I wonder how you'd go about

RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Matthew Jones
I seem to recall some comic giving a rant to the effect of Used to be just the magazines on the top shelf, everyone knew where they were, everyone knew what they were for. Then these FHM, Loaded, etc though - huh? What are they, for blokes who aren't sure if they want to masturbate? Not

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Mon, 21 May 2001, James Powell wrote: So you don't fancy organizing a LPM Top 100 (well, maybe 25) then? thinks .. err .. well theres ... ugh . and .. arr ... and we could always get .. shudder/thinks nope .. don't reckon that ones a winner. I know some Womens Institute in Yorkshire made

RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 11:06 21/05/01 +0100, you wrote: Dave Cross: See, I find it's in the personality. Which doesn't come across too well in glossy magazine. Hmmm. I wonder how you'd go about making personality pr0n? Mills and Boon. -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092 [EMAIL

RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Matthew Jones
See, I find it's in the personality. Which doesn't come across too well in glossy magazine. Hmmm. I wonder how you'd go about making personality pr0n? Mills and Boon. Well, no, I just had this conversation offlist. I'd say that personality pr0n is an oxymoron. YMMV. -- matt so how

Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-21 Thread Redvers Davies
I object to paying 3.99 gbp (for a single), or 12.99gbp (for an album track) to just get one song. However, if I hear another track from those artists, and like it, I will probably get the full album. Then exercise your right not to buy it - then don't steal it. You don't have a divine right

Re: Shoot out

2001-05-21 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:20:08PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: I still remember an article about C++ templating being a turing complete language in it's own right or something weird. This isn't it, but is entertaining anyway:

Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On 20 May 2001, Piers Cawley wrote: Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... The interesting bits are as follows; The really interesting bit was Mr Ford dancing around in his living room crowing because Sara Cox had read

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