Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-18 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 11:06:40PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 if dha supplies me with a list of cpan ID's and names for NY i'll
 do a similar page of NY and include the % of each on both pages

I'll have to go through the CPAN and see who of our group has IDs.  Of
course, there are all those non-london, non-ny mongers who are on the
NY.pm list...

dha, wondering if he gets any credit for Semi::Semicolons or DWIM...

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Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-18 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 09:02:01AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
 From: Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Who holds the distance record? dha, presumably?
 
 Last I heard, we had at least one subscriber currently living in Australia.
 
 Leon, how about a london.pm world map :)

Hm... I should probably work on a dha.pm map...

Let's see, London, St. Louis, Melbourne...

Hm.  *that's* where all that email comes from!

:-)

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Re: London.pm posting stats

2001-06-09 Thread David H. Adler

On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 10:03:29AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
  You know, I've been meaning to ask...
  
  Why in the world would you *want* to take over NY.pm???
  
 
 Because you've lost your way, there was a time that no one would ever
 have to ask questions such as ...
 
   Hmmm, is talking about beer off-topic or on-topic here?
   - John Kominetz, 8/6/2001

He's new.  :-)

 Where did you go wrong? It used to be that London.pm could regard
 NY.pm as its sister group (i would say brother, but you could never
 handle your booze) shining brightly in the dark sky of Perl Monger
 groups that talked about Perl. Whats next, NY.pm the educational 
 cooperative? *shudder*

Well, that certainly won't happen while *I'm* in charge.  I'm *much* too
lazy to organize something like that...

:-)
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Re: London.pm posting stats

2001-06-08 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 04:26:44AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
 This is dated from beginning of last year, and mutt is saying that's
 about 13,700 messages (gasp!). Note that some people
 (cough/dcrosscough/) appear more than once. Not that a) they
 necessarily need it b) have any hope, ever, of catching Greg...
 
   Greg McCarroll: 1546 **
   Dave Cross:  762 
   Jonathan Stowe:  729 ***
Robin Szemeti:  586 **
   David Cantrell:  563 **
   Paul Makepeace:  504 
 Leon Brocard:  459 **
 Piers Cawley:  378 
   David H. Adler:  365 ***

I... I'm so proud to have made it this far... *sniff*

dha, gettin' all emotional...

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Re: London.pm posting stats

2001-06-08 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:13:19PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 here is the results from a partial mbox of ny.pm messages, it is not
 that complete an mbox, but it does indicate that we are simply not
 doing or best to take over NY.pm

You know, I've been meaning to ask...

Why in the world would you *want* to take over NY.pm???

dha, rabid weasel herder

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Re: Religion

2001-06-02 Thread David H. Adler

On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 07:54:04PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 On Sat, 02 Jun 2001, Alex Page wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 07:36:12PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
  
   What with this and Piers' earlier revelations  and the ever present
   Unixbeard I have this feeling that maybe we ought to get a Morris Side
   together for next years Jack in the Green festival in Hastings,
  
  Heh, I haven't done Morrising for ages. Count me in!
 
  mental image of Greg and Piers, having had a few pints, lurching
 towards each other in a corner dance singing 'hey ho fiddle eye ho' and
 brandishing morris sticks and handkerchiefs whilst jangling like a
 tambourine on heat hmmm .. maybe I need to see this.

And Alex P has indicated a participatory interest as well.

Give me enough advance notice to get a plane ticket... :-)

dha

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Re: Inline::PERL

2001-06-02 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 09:40:49AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
 
 Inline::PERL gives you the power of the PERL programming language from

And what, exactly, is the PERL programming language?

dha

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Re: General Election

2001-06-02 Thread David H. Adler

On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 09:25:21AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 
 Oh I did ... In general I find Billy Braggs ability to produce 'something
 you could mistake for music' roughly equal to Craig Charles' ability to
 tell a joke. .. although he was passibly OK in Red Dwarf.

Billy Bragg was in Red Dwarf?  I never noticed...

dha :-)

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Re: Montreal

2001-06-01 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:01:06PM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote:

 Also, any tips on what do to in Montreal would be appreciated
 (there are city guides, of course, but if someone has first-hand
 experience it'd be good).

Apparently there is pie.

dha
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Re: l337

2001-05-31 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:28:25AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
  my name is jon i have installed an irc client on my linux shell account can u tell 
me where the c00lest irc places are like what server and channel and stuff u all use 
so i can learn PERL and hacking and stuff from l337 ppl like all u are.
  
  tx!!
  
 
 hey dude,
 
 check out ...
 
 irc.rhizomatic.net
 london.rhizomatic.net
 
 join #london.pm and meet lots of hot chix who you can ask a/s/l to and ask if they 
have
 any war3z or pr0n
 
 laterz,
  z3R0 c0o1

CHOPS.

DHA l33tr n u...

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Re: Hello and one or two dull questions

2001-05-25 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 03:01:15PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * Tony Kennick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
   Has anyone managed to ask the
  Camel what it's name is yet?
  
 
 our camel or the Perl Programming/logo camel? i have been told that
 the PP/P logo camel is called ... damn, i've forgotten,
 its the same as the name of the girl who was at Y::E from the Perl
 mongers, damn, i can't remember her name, sheesh .  

Amelia

dha
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Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-24 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 09:21:08AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:

 Now if he'd just stop blaming me for stuff like DWIM.pm... ;-)
 
 Well, I would if you'd just stop putting those evil thoughts in my head...

The David made me do it!??

:-)

dha
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Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-23 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:18:07AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:17:11PM +0100, Barbie wrote:
   
   Bugger! Brain thinking faster than my hands!
  
  Your hands *think*???
  
 
 in fact, it was a recent Angel episode

Only because you guys are so far behind... :-)

dha, still recovering from the season finalii...

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Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-23 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:52:39PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
 On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:32:09PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
  
  Much as I'd love it if everyone was to be able to post to the list from their 
favourite Unix mail client all the time, 
  
  
  Oxymoron, surely?
 
 Not in the slightest.  Now if you'd said favourite gui mail client,
 you might be correct.

No, I think that's still not a contradiction.  good gui mail client
probably is, however.

  Indeed. And some of us use display technology that doesn't have an
  overwhelming urge to be backward compatible with 1972, and can
  therefore do cool futuristic stuff like handle more than 72 columns.
 
 However, the cool futuristic stuff like CORRECT BLOODY WORK WRAPPING is
 completely beyond it, despite the fact it's been implemented correctly
 countless times before over the past 30 years or so.

You should use Damian's Text::AutoFormat.  I just used it to reformat
the bit above beginning with Indeed.  Lovely thing.

dha
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Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-23 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 01:53:54PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
 
 If anybody has any of these ...
 
   o Sneakers

Well, I have it, but it's on NTSC laserdisc, and I'm in a different
country.  Serves you right for doing this without me.  :-)

dha
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Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-23 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:41:33PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
 On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:23:49PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote:
  You should use Damian's Text::AutoFormat.  I just used it to reformat
  the bit above beginning with Indeed.  Lovely thing.
 
 Have you integrated into a mail server (module, procmail, whatever)
 so that it gets cleaned on the way in, or does your mail client do it,
 or have you some on-demand vi/emacs macros? Do tell!

from my .vimrc:

map g !G perl -MText::Autoformat -eautoformat CR
map z !G perl -MText::Autoformat -e 'autoformat{ all = 1 }' CR

...shamelessly stolen, lock stock and barrel from Damian's article in
the new TPJ. :-)

The first does the current paragraph, the second does all paragraphs
down to the end of the document.

Damian is so cool...  Now if he'd just stop blaming me for stuff like
DWIM.pm... ;-)

dha

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Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-22 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 08:43:39AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
 Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  At 23:30 21/05/2001, David H. Adler wrote:
  On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:28:24AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
   
Don't think anyone writes technical books for money. If they do, then
they're in for a big shock.
  
  ...and you can just imagine how much more true that is for editing
  technical books... :-)
  
  dha, used some of his editing money to buy a new guitar, though...
  
  ITYM used his editing money to buy some of a new guitar :)
 
 Hey, maybe it's one of those cheapo 'made in China' jobs. Of course,
 if it paid for a Martin or a Lowden or something else equally lovely,
 then well done Mr Adler.

Ah, I wish...

The truth is somewhere in between.  I got a Burns Marquee.  The reason I
was able to do so is that, although it's a perfectly good guitar, they
weren't selling.  When the price dropped by 75% (and I got informed
opinions telling me it was not just a piece of junk), I couldn't resist.
In fact, if one takes into account how much I saved, it actually
*increases* the amount I got paid. :-)

dha
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Re: [OT] Cordelia (was Re: They are all vampires!)

2001-05-21 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 10:52:46AM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
 On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 09:19:08PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote:
 
  [Cordelia]
 
  And how, exactly, is this off topic?
 
 It's not about Willow.

But it's about Cordelia, who graduated from Willow's High School, as she
appears on Angel, a show named after someone in the resorataion of whose
soul Willow's magical abilities first strongly surfaced.  Willow also
had a cameo on Angel this season.

It's *all* about Willow, you fool!

dha
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Re: [OT] Cordelia (was Re: They are all vampires!)

2001-05-21 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 05:09:50PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
 
 
 appears on Angel, a show named after someone in the resorataion of whose
 ^^^
 
 Ah, an excellent typo consisting of one additional character, one
 omitted character, and a transposed pair. I shall put it in my
 collection. I should say by the look of it, this one was speed
 induced.

For what it's worth, I *am* dysgraphic...

dha
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Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-21 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:17:11PM +0100, Barbie wrote:
 
 Bugger! Brain thinking faster than my hands!

Your hands *think*???

dha, sees a sci-fi movie in here somewhere...

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Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-21 Thread David H. Adler

On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:28:24AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
 
 Don't think anyone writes technical books for money. If they do, then 
 they're in for a big shock.

...and you can just imagine how much more true that is for editing
technical books... :-)

dha, used some of his editing money to buy a new guitar, though...

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Re: [OT] Cordelia (was Re: They are all vampires!)

2001-05-20 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 06:40:32AM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
 Speaking of vampires, you've got a treat coming up with Angel.  After
 the exploitative tv show there was a lull of a week, and then
 ... Boobapalooza!  You boys will be capturing plenty of stills from
 the season-ending shows.

And how, exactly, is this off topic?

dha

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Re: Happy Happy Joy Joy!

2001-05-18 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 08:20:47AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
 I finally received my copy of TPJ in the mail yesterday. And there was much
 rejoicing :)

If it makes anyone feel better, I just heard from Mr. Orwant that *his*
copy hasn't arrived yet... :-)

dha, who thinks the overseas copies got somehow shipped before the
domestic ones...

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Re: Buffy ...

2001-05-17 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 07:25:44AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
 At 17:20 16/05/2001, Dean wrote:
 On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 05:08:17PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 
   http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/51586918
 
 The economy took another downturn today as the few remaining London
 based dot-coms utilized the last of their ever diminishing budgets in
 an attempt to procure an item that would see off the vampire ^Hventure
 capitalists. One of the companies to survive todays spending spree was
 MagSol, the founder Dave was heard to say Willows better.
 
 pedant type=grammar?
 Actually, I'd say Willow's better.
 /pedant

Yes, the willow contingent actually speaks english good.  dammit.

dha :-)

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Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-17 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 08:54:12PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
 On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 07:36:12PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
  
  Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list...
  
  The interesting bits are as follows;
  
  At no. 11, Sarah Michelle Geller
  
  At no. 10, Alyson Hannigan!!!
  
  Nuff said :-)
 
 Oh, you bastards. You utter, utter, utter bastards.
 
 I'm going to have to actually *buy*, and furthermore be seen non-dead
 with, a copy of FHM now. London PM, you are sick, twisted and evil
 people.

Hey, I have to buy it *imported*... and you think *you* have problems...

Uh, what's on the cover, so I get the right one?

dha
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Re: see attachment

2001-05-14 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 04:44:16PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:08:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  Of course we could make a cyberpunk movie instead, now let 
  me thing about it  
 
 IN AD 1987, PERL WAS BEGINNING.

...and no one was prepared for the INFOBOT HOLOCAUST

dha
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Re: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...)

2001-05-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 05:37:24PM -0400, Piers Cawley wrote:
 David H. Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:55:16AM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
   
   On the subject of music (despite the Subject: of movies) ... anyone
   here into trad. Irish instrumental music?
  
  [raises hand]
  
  Actually, Celtic in general, more than *just* irish...
 
 So you don't like English traditional music then. Shame.

Says who?  I just expanded from irish... It's not like Celtic music is
all I listen to...  There's instrumental surf too!  :-)

dha
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Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:55:46AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
 
 I see a topic far in the distance and rapidly dwindling...

Topic?  What's a topic?

:-)
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Re: your mail

2001-05-10 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 04:13:34PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 would people mind if i turned up totally pissed from minute 0 to
 tonights meeting? i've had lunch with a friend and its done bad
 things to me

Clearly it's done odd things to your ability to write a subject...

dha
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Re: (Ab)Using substr

2001-05-10 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 09:16:25AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
 Mentioned this in passing to Piers and Leon last night and they seemed
 interested enough to justify posting it here. It's not mine :)

My god, that's gorgeous.  I think I'm going to cry...

dha
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Re: Dr Who - A second rate sci-fi show that is only popular in american due to their average stands?

2001-05-10 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 06:03:53PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 04:13:34PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
   
   would people mind if i turned up totally pissed from minute 0 to
   tonights meeting? i've had lunch with a friend and its done bad
   things to me
  
  Clearly it's done odd things to your ability to write a subject...
  
 
 Is that better?
 ;-)

Yes.  It's just as clearly inaccurate and ill-informed as ever, instead
of blank.  :-)

dha
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- Willow



Re: TBA?

2001-05-10 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 11:03:34AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
 Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
  Penderels Oak, and afterwards I have a table at the Gaucho Grill for
  steak.
 
 Can't we just eat beef instead? It will be a lot less wooden for a
 start.
 
 Badoom, boom. Thankyourveramuch ladies and germs I'll be here all week.

Not if we cut off your head, burn you alive, eviscerate you and bury you
in france.

:-)

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Re: Buffy musings ...

2001-05-09 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 09:28:38AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * Nathan Torkington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
   2) Get Willow.  Dammit.
  
  I'll see what they cost.  It might be prohibitively expensive to get
  anyone who's cute.
  
 
 Well Willow should be well within budget then.

You will be the first up against the wall, come the revolution, sucker.
 
 And while we are on the old films chestnut, my current recommendation
 is 'O Brother, where art thou?', excellent film. However I here Momento
 is a very good film as well.

Memento is *excellent*.  But I'm a film geek.  Not exactly a feel-good
film, but *brilliantly* done.

dha
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Re: Buffy musings ...

2001-05-09 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 11:20:36AM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
 David H. Adler writes:
 
  3) Get the editors to come.  Maybe I can convince them to hire me. :)
 
 Editors?  This show isn't edited, it's live.  Isn't it?

No.  Documentary.

dha
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Re: O Brother (was Re: Buffy musings ...)

2001-05-09 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 03:42:49PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * Nathan Torkington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  Piers Cawley writes:
   I'm trying to work out if I was bowled over by
   'Go to sleep pretty baby' because of the song or the visuals...
  
  Ob Porn: You can see a nipple and curve of a breast through a wet
  shirt if you look in the right place.
  
 
 This is exactly the sort of thing that gives London.pm a bad name,
 and promotes the sale of the film in DVD format as opposed to VHS
 due to the crap pause facilities of VHS ;-)

There are reasons some of us have the Criterion laserdisc of The
Adventures of Baron Munchausen.  Only one of them is all the extra
material.  :-)

dha
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Re: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...)

2001-05-09 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:55:16AM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
 
 On the subject of music (despite the Subject: of movies) ... anyone
 here into trad. Irish instrumental music?

[raises hand]

Actually, Celtic in general, more than *just* irish...

dha, saw Natalie McMaster a couple of weeks ago

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Re: Dim Sum?

2001-05-09 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 05:34:39PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
  Oh, you people would just *love* to know what happened last night,
  wouldn't you?  BWAHAHAHAHAHA
  
 
 The British Watcher and Slayer had to save the American's again?

Nice try, but no.  And if you think *that*'s going to make me reveal
what's going on, you're quite mistaken...  :-)

dha
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Re: Dim Sum?

2001-05-09 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 05:25:43PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
 From: David H. Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 5:22 PM
 
  On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 03:02:52PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  
   Simon, if you are going to reveal next week's Buffy episode at least
   put SPOILER in the subject ;-)
  
  Oh, you people would just *love* to know what happened last night,
  wouldn't you?  BWAHAHAHAHAHA
 
 We'll get to see in in just over a week anyway.
 
 Is the one where G zaps Txxx's b?

No, that was last week.

only two more to go...

dha
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Re: Buffy musings ...

2001-05-08 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 06:26:15PM +0100, Dean wrote:
 On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 06:20:33PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
  I wonder how hard it would be to get Faith or Charisma Carpenter
 
 Charisma Carpenter!!!

Of course, Eliza should be finished with Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
by then...  Not sure what Charisma's doing outside of the Whedon Axis.

dha
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Re: More revolting natives

2001-05-07 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:08:59PM +0100, Matthew Robinson wrote:
 
 
  On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 08:49:56PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
   Saturday, May 05, 2001, 5:33:47 AM, Brad Bowman wrote:
 
  Mmmm,  what if these Yanks are masters of windup ... and think *we* don't
  have a sense of humour?
 
 I think you give them too much credit!

It depends on which american it is... If *I* did it, it would be a joke.
Sadly, I have a feeling that most americans that would bother asking
this would be serious.  *sigh*

dave, reminded of Abbie Hoffman's story that french friends of his told
him, after a trip across the states that the most common question they
got asked was what language do you speak in france?

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Re: Review of Data munging with Perl on Slashdot

2001-05-02 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 09:19:25AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
 
 Now, has anyone seen the June Web Techniques yet? There's supposed to be
 another good review in that.

Yep.  As soon as I read that sentence my brain said hey, didn't I just
pull that out of my mailbox?

Yes, the review is good.  He even says he *learned* something from DMP!
:-)  Unfortunately, it's not on line yet. :-/

dha
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Re: Migrating South (was Good Accountants)

2001-04-28 Thread David H. Adler

On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 06:53:14AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, you wrote:
 
   What is this off-topic you speak of?  Is it a custom of your people?
  
  Yeah... I'm on this mailing list called goats-fans, for fans of Goats:
  the Comic Strip (http://www.goats.com - NOW!), and flaming and off-topic
  posting leads to the moderators kicking your arse severly.
 
 Excellent! ... Men, I believe we have a new mission.  How do we sign up
 for htis so-called 'on topic' list ?

Oh god, no... I have enough trouble keeping up with the two lists
separately...

Besides, alex is lying.  No, really...

dha
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Re: Good Accountants

2001-04-27 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:25:23PM +0100, Barbie wrote:
 
 I always knew Manchester was the centre of the Universe.

Ahem.

I suggest you go look at the entry for NY.pm at
http://www.pm.org/groups/north_america.shtml :-)

dha

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Re: Migrating South (was Good Accountants)

2001-04-27 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:56:22PM -0400, Alex Page wrote:
 
 Hmm, I'm feeling like this is getting waaay too off-topic

What is this off-topic you speak of?  Is it a custom of your people?

:-)

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Re: Company Name

2001-04-25 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 01:15:38PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Robert Shiels wrote:
 
  I've decided to set up my own company and become a contractor. There are
  quite a lot of decisions to be made, but the hardest one I'm finding is
  thinking of a company name!
 
 Get the domain off Paul and call it PerlIsMyBitch Ltd.

Perl is your limited bitch?

dha, who, yes, knows what limited means in this context... sheesh
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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

2001-04-21 Thread David H. Adler

On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 10:52:56AM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, David H. Adler wrote:
 
  On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:14:02PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
   On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:04:55PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
  They have *the* best electric bass player
 in the entire world,
   
ummm ... correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that honour bestowed on
Norman Watt Roy ?
  
   Clive off of (void) told me to mention Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm and
   Jaco Pastorius and see what happened :-)
 
  I would just like to throw in John Glascock, 'cause no one ever talks
  about him and I liked him.
 
 
 I'll see your John Glassock and raise you a Marcus Miller 

[Insert witty retort that I can't be bothered to think of here]

dha

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Re: BBC was Re: Beginners Guide

2001-04-19 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:42:48PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
 
 I'd be happy to pay a 400/year voluntary sub for a BBC with no
 adverts during programs. 

...

 But for that they're going to have to stop producing so much crap. I
 want more stuff of the quality of Clocking Off and Walk On By, and
 less of the vets in kitchens making your home look horrible cheap
 shit. 

Make them start producing Doctor Who again, while you're at it...

dha
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Re: BBC was Re: Beginners Guide

2001-04-19 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 07:31:59PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
  Make them start producing Doctor Who again, while you're at it...
  
 
 If they do start doing Doctor Who again it will have a finite lifespan,
 is he not near the maximum number or lives a timelord can regenerate?

Nah.  He's only up to his 8th incarnation.  he's got 13.  Also,
depending on how you look at things, he may be a special case.

[note: this does not take the comic relief special as canon...]

dha
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Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 07:12:27PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 
 stop winding me up .. everyone knows emacs is a firewall configuration
 tool with some other bits bolted on ...  dont you just press C-x C-alt-b
 C-shift-alt-z alt-y pageup-alt-escape-shift-~ to make it insert a space
 or somesuch?

You must have an old version.  That's been aliased to the spacebar for
ages now...

dha
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Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:43:09PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
 From: Mike Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:30 PM
 
  CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz.
 
 Why would that bother us? Remember, we're all Willow fans here.

Heh.  A friend of mine just asked me if I was upset about this, and my
response was similar...

dha

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Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:43:20PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
 From: Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 5:39 PM
 
  Mike Jarvis wrote:
   CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz.
  
  Who's he? Is he that Wesley bloke that I haven't seen yet?
 
 Nah. He's a nobody who's been dating SMG for a while.

Clarification:  That's Freddie Prinz, Jr.  His father was the star of
Chico and the Man, a sitcom of, uh, mid-70s vintage, I think.  Don't
know if it ever made it across the water, though.

dha

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Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-17 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 01:49:26PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
 
 Unfortunately, I don't recall the comment exactly.

Same here.  But I have a vague concept of what you mean.  The last read
mark, by now, has become something I don't even notice... for the sake
of my own sanity.  :_)

dha
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Re: NY Invasion

2001-04-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 08:20:51AM -0400, Alex Page wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 11:25:27AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
 
  and we've tentatively pencilled in Thursday 26th April as a good date
  for us to show them how to drink.
 
 Shit, and The Fall are playing Oxford then :-(

But you're not coming, last I checked, so you can go see your silly
little band.  :-)

dha
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Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary (list!)

2001-04-09 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 12:41:56PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
 
 Note that I'll still post the summary to london-list (for now at
 least).

Why should you stop?  You *can't* be worried about the traffic!  :-)

dha
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Re: Silly postings

2001-04-06 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:29:03PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 09:25:21AM +0100, Matthew Jones wrote:
  But what is it about NY toilets that only about three of them flushed
  properly during my entire visit?
 
 First time I went into a NY public toilet, er, bathroom, I thought
 "my god -- it's exactly like Duke Nukem" and looked arond for a
 ventilation duct to blast.

You *used* a public toilet in nyc???  eek.

dha
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Re: Silly postings

2001-04-05 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:14:05PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:

 "Sex is kinda like pizza. When it's bad, it's still pretty good."

Thanks for reinforcing the view that people outside of New York don't
know dirt about pizza... :-)

dha
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Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-05 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:03:43AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
 
 dha, how's your "last read" mark?

Eh?

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Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)

2001-04-05 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:05:10PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
 
 ObTopic:

[snip lots of stuff about perl]

Excuse me, where was the topical stuff there?

dha

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Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)

2001-04-05 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 02:29:09PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
   its amazing how hard it is to disguise the fact you just set fire to
   a roll of magnesium ribbon.

...but hardly surprising. :_)

One of the administrators of my school found me sitting out in the
hallway reading a book and asked why I wasn't in class.  I looked at her
and informed her that my teacher and I had mutually agreed that it would
be better for all concerned if I was not, in fact, in his classroom.

Just to give you an idea of the kinds of arguments I used to get into
with teachers, she said "Oh.  All right, then" and walked away...

dha

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Re: Silly postings

2001-04-05 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 07:10:34PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 01:45:40PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote:
  Thanks for reinforcing the view that people outside of New York don't
  know dirt about pizza... :-)
 
 I thought it was "people outside of Italy". My how times change.

Well, to hear Frank Zappa tell it, at least, the italians *really* don't
know anything about pizza...

dha
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Re: Silly postings

2001-04-05 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 05:27:57PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 01:45:40PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote:
   Thanks for reinforcing the view that people outside of New York don't
   know dirt about pizza... :-)
  
  I thought it was "people outside of Italy". My how times change.
 
 No, best pizza is in NY or the hypehnated environs.

Yeah.  And if you go to Koronet, it's *really big* too.  :-)

dha
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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:06:13AM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
 
 *grin*  That sounds like an evil flan.

Mmm... flan...

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Re: Books

2001-04-04 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:26:02AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
 
 Wanderering around Charing Cross Road last night I picked up a couple of new
 Perl books, "Writing CGI Applications with Perl" by Kevin Meltzer  Brent
 Michalski and "Instant Perl Modules" by Doug Sparling and Frank Wiles.

That second one has an *excellent* acknowledgements page... :-)

dha
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Re: Books

2001-04-04 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 07:15:04PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
 
 Dave...
 [wondering how he gets to be a technical editor]

My experience suggests it may have something to do with being in the
right place at the right time... :)

dha
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Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-02

2001-04-04 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 11:36:22AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
 
 Martin Ling delurked and couldn't believe we were all nutters and
 Buffy fans. David Adler added "drunks". Jonathan Stowe added
 "skateboarders, musicians". Lucy McWilliam (who has very amusing
 taglines) added "geeks, goths, jugglers, Netscis. And that's just
 me". Paul Makepeace added "unicyclist". Greg McCarroll added "drunk
 crazy buffy fans".

Surely that last is a clarification, not an addition.

pedhant
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Re: Books

2001-04-04 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 01:58:22PM -0500, Doug Sparling wrote:
  Dave...
  [wondering how he gets to be a technical editor]
 
 My experience suggests it may have something to do with being in the
 right place at the right time... :)
 
 Same goes for authoring -:)

Oh, and about the editing - The authors just start following you
*everywhere*... :-)

dha
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Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread David H. Adler

 
 Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane
 cannisters as a child?

No, but I'm hardly surprised...

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 04:47:02PM +0100, Andrew Bowman wrote:
 
 Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM.

"Worse"?  You haven't seen those Alyson Hannigan pictures, have you?
:-)

dha
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Re: [schwern@pobox.com: DNA.pm]

2001-04-01 Thread David H. Adler

On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 06:50:48PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
 Those crazy Americans! ;-)

Hey, he never did this before he went over to Britain...

:-)
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Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:00:46PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Tony Bowden wrote:
 
  On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 12:07:01PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
   4.46 Nick Cleaton
   4.46 Maurice Buxton
   Coo, I'm on 4.46 as well.
 
  Me four.
 
  Although they seem to have lost my score.
 
  I have a nice shiny certificate though ...
 
 
 Nick say's he has a nice shiny certificate as well - I have one 'Saying
 Certified Perl Master' but they appear to have lost my score - it was
 about tow years ago I took the test 

I'm a Certified Perl Druid.  I outrank you. :-)

dha
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Re: Buffycode (was Re: That book)

2001-03-28 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:37:14PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
 David H. Adler wrote:
  What, no CiP rating???
 
 Well, there wasn't any Perl code included. But it should be pretty
 straightforward to hack the algorithm together, or might as well hijack the
 Convert::Base32 module for the purpose.

Maybe we should implement a pCiP rating, for *potential* for CiP, based
on how marvellously deranged a program is conceptually...

dha
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Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-28 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:29:21PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
 
 The US approach (longer local numbers- everywhere is 7 digits now,
 prepended by a three digit 'city' code) combined with the fact there

s/city/area/;

NYC, for instance, has at least two area codes at this point.   I
notice, in fact, that the current Manhattan phone directory not only
lists 212 (Manhattan and formerly the rest of the city), but two
cellular phone area codes, 646 and 917.

dha
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Re: white wine

2001-03-27 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 02:09:21PM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote:
 
 /me only drinks belgian beers/lagers.. or ales/bitter esp not any of that
 american crap.

Ahem.  There are some fine american beers.  You probably just don't see
them over there (lord knows they're hard enough to find here...)

dha
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Re: Buffycode (was Re: That book)

2001-03-27 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 01:07:44PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 agreed, this is just f*cking crazy, sorry for the swearing, but this
 is the craziest thing i've seen this year

What, no CiP rating???

dha
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Re: white wine

2001-03-26 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 06:17:29PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:22:34PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
  meaning to ring the vinyard to see if they can send me a case, or at least
  point me at a merchant over here who can.
 
 Alternatively, if TPC5 is held in Monterey again you can partake of
 the local plethora of vineyards in the area.

On the other hand, since it's going to be in San Diego, maybe not...

dha

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Re: That book

2001-03-26 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 05:04:03PM +, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
 
 MBM wrote:
 
 Not if we can't come up with a good name for not matt's script archive it
 won't be.
 
  The other possibility, I guess, given that it's london.pm is to make it
  relate to buffy in some way :)
 
 Or beer.  Or both ;-)

The CaveSlayer Archive.  Or has that not gotten across the great wide
ocean yet?

dha
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Re: Balding Badly-Coiffed Hackers (was Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.)

2001-03-21 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 02:49:17PM -, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 
 What are we saying here, Michael Schwern is that Alien Drag Queen ?

You know... that would explain a lot.. :-)

dha
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Re: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-21 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 10:22:34PM +, celia wrote:
 
 / me delurks - don't worry, you won't see much of me round here :)

But... why??

dha
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Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-20 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 05:34:06PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
 
 You are Michael Schwern, and I claim your m4d h41rkut skillz.

Oh, get real.  Schwern has *no* relation to haircuts *at all*...

dha

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Re: Damian's Diary

2001-03-13 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 03:12:18PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * Philip Newton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
  Not some faceless American corporation, but London.pmers (with values of
  "London" including Belfast and wherever Piers lives).
  
 
 London.pm is not just a regional user group, a state of mind (liver?).
 Even dha is a London.pm'er although he may not care to admit it ;-)

Oh, no question.  I'm just glad I don't have to actually take
responsibility for you guys...

dha
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Re: Strange Request

2001-03-13 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 02:45:30PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
 
 We simply can't compete with Matt on backwards compatibility as his scripts 
 all run on 4.036!

If you call that "running"... :-/

dha
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Re: Strange Request

2001-03-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 10:28:42AM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, you wrote:
 
  http://neptune.nildram.co.uk/users/cgi.php3 , last paragraph:
  
  "For your convienience, we have a public CGI directory
  available to all our Unix hosting customers. included is
  FormMail, the industry-standard form-to-email processor."
^
  
  Does that strike you with fear and dread, then? :-)
 
 well .. to be fair .. yes its appalling Perl but it works, and it IS the
 industry standard if only because there is nothing better freely
 available.

Maybe I missed a meeting again, but doesn't the "industry" tend to
refuse the standardness of anything freely available?

dha
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Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 03:02:07PM -0500, Mark Rogaski wrote:
 
 I think you missed the obvious absurdity of the US claiming prior art when
 it came to _beer_.  

Just beer in relation to perl

dha

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Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 10:18:53PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
 At 20:18 12/03/2001, you wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 03:02:07PM -0500, Mark Rogaski wrote:
  
   I think you missed the obvious absurdity of the US claiming prior art when
   it came to _beer_.
 
 Just beer in relation to perl
 
 You _do_ realise that I've now put the trademark notice on all of the 
 london.pm web pages :)

Bloody redcoats...

dha :-)
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Re: DJ jabbers on the O'Reilly Network

2001-03-09 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 06:48:16AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
  
  I wonder if O'Reilly approached the copyright holder ...
 
 Heh!

 "The use of the beer glass image in association with the Perl language 
 is a trademark of the London Perl Mongers".

I'm pretty sure NY.pm can claim prior art here... :)

dha
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Re: FW: Kevin Smith Film Fest - Non-HTML version!

2001-03-07 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:05:07PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry for the HTML posting! Here's the proper one *blush*

You BASTARD!

 While we're off-topic...Jason Lee (Mallrats and Chasing Amy) a severely
 under-rated actor or does my love for the Kevin Smith films cloud my
 judgment, the closest I've seen him to real fame is a 5 minute appearance in
 "Enemy of the State" which really doesn't seem right, what else has he been
 in?

He has a notable role in Cameron Crowe's excellent Almost Famous (that
*has* come out there by now, right?).

 Oh, and as Stan Lee appears in Mallrats there's no relation there at all is
 there?

name dropStan used to live in my building before he moved out to LA.
:-)/nd

dha

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Re: T-shirts for Monday

2001-03-04 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 04:14:14PM +, Neil Ford wrote:
 
   Are we going to try and get as many PIMB tshirts in the audiance for
   Monday? We could even get a photo with Damian?
 
 I'll bring the 8 or so I have left as well.
 
 Excellent. We should probably present one to Damian.

I'm guessing that those of us on this side of the atlantic are,
therefore, out of luck at this point?

dha
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Re: The Conway Lecture

2001-02-21 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 06:07:21PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
 From: "David H. Adler" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  The Module isn't the problem, it's the Lecture... :-)
 
 I've seen it, heck I even missed the first few minutes -- what's the biggie?
 
 He uses his oratory skills to make you *think* it's awfully impressive  hard
 (it certainly is cute).

You have to understand that Mars bars are not the same here as there...
:-)

dha
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Re: The Conway Lecture

2001-02-20 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 08:24:46PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
 
 (please circulate this to any interested parties)
 
 London Perl Mongers proudly presents
 
 THE CONWAY LECTURE
 
 "Quantum::Superpositions"
 by Damian Conway

Be sure to wrap your heads well so that when they explode you can find
all the pieces.  ;-)

dha, sorry he can't make it... it might make sense the 3rd time
through...

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Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 06:08:15AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
 I'm going along to take a look at Conway Hall tomorrow lunchtime. If it
 looks ok[1] I'll book it and pay for it on the spot.

 [1] And I hope it does - as I don't really have a plan B :)

Hey, if *I* can find him a room, so can you... :-)

dha
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Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 05:44:04PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 talking of organisational skills, dave (ad) how would you fancy 
 being a london.pm organiser for the london.pm trip to ny.pm?
 
 we seem to have problems getting anyone to take this to
 completion

Well, what dates do you want to look at?  That's probably the best
starting point.  After that, we can start talking about options.

dha
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Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 07:15:59PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
 
 We could go for Wed 28 March to Mon 2 April instead; comments?
 
 Greg, if you send me the list of names and addresses I'd be chuffed.
 (Anyone who didn't email Greg, let me know).
 
 Given that sort of info, how much is this likely to cost? Dave? Dave?
 Dave? Bueller?

Well, now that you have something to work with, I can get the querying
in motion...

About how many people are we talking about?  Any idea?

dha
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Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:59:55AM +, Neil Ford wrote:
 
 Also what kit are we going to need for Damian's talk? (projector, PA, 
 wireless microphones?)

FWIW, damian has (IIRC) requested a vga connection for ny.

(will try to remember to confirm this at some point...)

Your best bet is to ask him.  That's what we did. :-)

dha
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Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 07:37:14PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
 On 12/02/2001 at 19:36 +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  Well, now that you have something to work with, I can get the querying
  in motion...
 
  About how many people are we talking about?  Any idea?
 
 i just sent a list of about 8~10 people ( i think )
 
 Yeah, 10 +- usual errors (people who didn't know and have changed their
 minds, people running out of cash, etc, etc).

FWIW, 10 is commonly the minimum for a "group".  A group rate isn't the
only way to go, but it's one option...

dha
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Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 08:18:26PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
 On 12/02/2001 at 19:59 +, David H. Adler wrote:
 FWIW, 10 is commonly the minimum for a "group".  A group rate isn't the
 only way to go, but it's one option...
 
 Hmm. I assume group is cheaper, though. 

You'd be surprised...

 How much work is it to look at both options?

The real work involved is getting mom off the phone long enough to tell
her about it. :-)

dha
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Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 09:17:54PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
 And isn't the VGA connection a requirement for the projector? Or the 
 laptop? Or something other than the room itself?

My assumption is that that describes what is needed to connect the
projector and laptop.

I just had him talk to the tech people himself. :-)

delagatin' dha

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Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 04:32:08PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
 
 When looking at cost, remember what hotel rates in NYC are like (almost as
 bad as London).  You can easily pay US$250/night for a room that you would
 swear is in a crack house.

But the crack is *great*!

:-)

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Re: OT: Buffy (or not OT, depending on your point of view)

2001-02-08 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 10:19:39AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 My point being that sometimes they make up exciting bits purely for the
 trailers. Hmmm, doesn't this count as false advertising?

Sometimes they do.  Hell, there's a great trailer for Monty Python and
the Holy Grail which features all kinds of things that were never
intended for inclusion in the actual film.

On the other hand, often trailers contain scenes that are excised
before the movie actually comes out.  I just noticed one in the
trailer for High Fidelity, and said "hm... that's not in the film",
but then saw it in one of the deleted scenes on the dvd.

My least favorite example of this was in the trailer for the Al Pacino
film Sea of Love - there was a scene in the trailer that raised issues
that were what made me really want to see the film... but that stuff
didn't actually make it into the film... :-/

dha

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Re:

2001-02-07 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 05:55:39PM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
  What is your ... err ... friend's name?
 
 I think you'll find it's Dave.  This would be suspicious, but as we know
 virtually all London Perl Mongers are called Dave, so no more need be said
 on the matter.

Not just london, surely...

dha :-)

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Re: Mailing List Stuff

2001-02-05 Thread David H. Adler

On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:34:15PM +, Robin Houston wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:27:16PM +, Struan Donald wrote:
  * at 02/02 12:29 + Jonathan Stowe said:
   On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
   
Any questions?
   
   
   Yeah, can I have a pony ?
  
  what is it with ponys?
 
 I've wondered that too.
 Seems to be a #perl obsession...

I think brian's wanted a pony ever since the early days of NY.pm, and
he avoids IRC like the plague...

dha, likes pie

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