Re: Decompression

2001-06-01 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Umm, *strokes beard* by archive you mean tar file, right?  If so then
Archive::Tar looks likely, and it even automagically deals with .gz


This does exactly what I wanted, a pint is yours at the next meeting!


files via Compress::Zlib (or so it says in the readme)
It does as well, this should save a lot of grief.

No non-core modules though?  Can't you just create a local lib path
with Archive::Tar in it and say you didn't cheat?


If I can't get the module on the server then I guess I'll have to be
inventive and just add the whole module to my script ;)

And now back to your scheduled Buffy discussion.
Dean
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   ---  Anon






Re: O'Reilly Safari - anyone use it?

2001-05-19 Thread Dean S Wilson





-Original Message-From: 
Barry Pretsell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm interested to know if anyone uses 
Safari to read O'Reilly books online.
http://safari1.oreilly.com/tablhom.asp?home

It sounds like a good idea (must be better 
than having 3 editions of Programming Perl) and I'm tempted to give it a go, 
so any Safari subscribers out there with an opinion?

I've not started using it yet but I'll admit 
to being very tempted on a couple of occasions (When I need the cookbook and 
my CD's at home mostly) the only real thing putting me off is the need to be 
constantly on-line. I do a lot of my work on my laptop with no network 
connections so I don't get distracted by things like e-mail and I'd like a 
local copy, you could write a slow crawler to make up for this but that 
sorta breaks the spirit of it and I imagine Nat not being too happy with me 
;)

I was impressed by the Manning way of 
letting me download a PDF of the book, it makes my life easier since I can 
use it off line. On the other hand I thought Manning would have released 
their back catalogue in ebook as well as they have a very limited selection 
at the moment.

I suppose the issue with books as PDF is that it leaves 
you wide open to rampant copying... Although you could slow crawl safari and 
zip 'em up.

 Dean
-- 
Profanity is the one language all programmers 
understand. --- Anon


Re: pc components

2001-05-17 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED]


My motherboard from Dabs has spent two days awaiting credit card
clearance
and two days awaiting despatch. It *is* in stock, it's just taking
them
four days - and counting - to get around to shipping it.


If your in London then forget mail order and go to TCR on a Saturday,
you get to take home what you pay for and with the drop in spending
lately its getting easier to haggle the price down.

And afterwards you can come to one of the almost weekly geek meets in
a nearby pub.

Dean
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Re: pc components

2001-05-17 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-

From: Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]


At 14:48 17/05/01 +0100, Dean wrote:

If your in London then forget mail order and go to TCR on a
Saturday,
you get to take home what you pay for and with the drop in spending
lately its getting easier to haggle the price down.

Are you refering to the 'computer fair' or just TCR in general?
Both to a degree. From the shops I've been in recently it seems that
they are more willing to drop the price a bit than see you go to one
of the fairs. For once the consumers the winner.

The fairs do a more mixed selection of stuff than the shops do, where
you go depends on what your looking for.

Also, if any London person is unaware of it, the shop CEX (Computer
EXchange) on TCR (just north of Goddge St Stn) sells excellent 2nd
hand
hardware, are very knowledgeable, will accept returns with no hassle,
and
have never let me down etc etc etc.

And they do a nice selection of cheep DVD's.


Dean
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Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Of course we could make a cyberpunk movie instead, now let
me thing about it 


Someone please employ Mr Mccarroll. My mail box can't cope with him
having this much spare time. ;)

Dean
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   ---  Anon





Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Dean S Wilson

Original Message-
From: Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:02:48PM +0100, alex wrote:
 ps the big killer is that there is no large corporate generating
tons of
 noise about Perl - whereas this is not the case for Java.

Wait until TPC.


Ahh come on! We need more than that! :)

Where are all the things like Perl advocacy, PR, Business Awareness
and non-technical expansion plans for the language discussed?

Dean
--
Perl coder in a sea of PHP.




Re: RPC stuff

2001-03-08 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]


What's the best way forward for RPC / distributed Perl stuff? I don't
need
anything super complicated, but RPC::Simple seems to want to use Tk
?!


XML-RPC and SOAP are both interesting at the mo.

Homepage
http://www.xmlrpc.org/

XML-RPC perl tutorial.
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/ws-xpc1/?dwzone=ws

SOAP::Lite tutorial.
http://home.cnet.com/webbuilding/0-7704-8-4874769-1.html

Although neither are really my field.

Dean (Must stay on topic...)
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Re: de-dupe a filesystem

2001-02-08 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Anyone got anything to hand that will spot massive duplications in a
filesystem? I've got a whole bunch of servers mirrored to a backup
server and it's be nice to identify where entire file trees have been
replicated...


You could run diff on the checksum files that tripwire makes. You do
tripwire your servers don't you? ;)

This came up on a list recently, I've never used it but it seems to
fit your problem. It looks like a trial version is available
http://www.veracity.com/apps_compremote.shtml

HTH
Dean
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Re: Perl Books

2001-02-01 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Elaine -HFB- Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED]


anyone other than Webheads have better things to do than learn CGI.
It
doesn't make them stupid, in fact, I'd almost argue that they are the
bright ones.


Amen.

Which is probably about 95% of the planet. Why should they care if
the
Perl is shoddy? The web page works :)

I can see your point and I agree that a tiny initial learning curve is
a good thing but what happens when the shoddy bit of cgi is used to
execute an intrusion on the host it's based on or another machine?.
The coder has a responsibility to make sure that his work at least
pays some attention to security. And if the book doesn't cover use
warnings or use strict I doubt taint mode is in the contents.

If you thought Simons Buffy joke was bad have a look at this, you want
the Tainted Perl section...
http://www.spy.org.uk/london2600/party-2000.htm

Dean (Packing for Belgium so not at tonight's meeting)

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Re: Perl Books

2001-02-01 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Holzman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

True, but there aren't many people who will assume that they can
perform
brain surgery just because they successfully applied a band-aid to a
paper
cut the week before.


You haven't been to the NHS recently have you... ;)

Dean

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London Community News 30/01/00

2001-01-30 Thread Dean S Wilson

Welcome to the first post of the London Community News.

The LCN is a fortnightly (Or so) e-mail that contains a brief summary
of the London based open source community groups and their activities
for the month ahead and any major open-source events. If you have any
suggestions for the mail or know of a group that you'd like to get
added to this please drop me a note at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The User Groups:
---

London Perl Mongers
Home Page: http://www.london.pm.org
Contact Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We are a group who are dedicated to the encouragement of all things
Perl-like in London.

Its a busy month this month for the London PMer's, in addition to the
monthly meeting on the 1st of February
(http://london.pm.org/WhatDo.shtml) with guests Mark Jason Dominus
(Perl luminary) and Beginning Perl author Simon Cozens there is the
bi-monthly technical meeting featuring Matt Sergeant of axkit fame
(http://www.axkit.org/) on Thursday 22nd February and on the 26th of
February Damian Conway, author of Object Orientated Perl and the slave
of Perl mongers everywhere (http://yetanother.org/damian/) will be in
London to say hi and scare people with his Quantum::Superpositions
module.

---
Lonix
Home Page: http://www.lonix.org.uk/
Contact Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The aim of Lonix is quite straightforward although it comprises of
many points. The overall aim is to unite many Linux individuals in and
around London. Below is a list of aims, but you as a member may not
agree to all of them. (Hopefully at least one!)

Meet like minded individuals to share ideas and discuss opinions.
To provide a Linux force in London to persuade the industry to opt
for a more Linux friendly approach to their services and products.
To assist users with problems, providing advice and physical help.
Linux advocacy

For details of the monthly meetings you can look here:
http://www.lonix.org.uk/Meetings.html

This months Lonix is to be held on the 1st of February. Details of the
location have not yet been confirmed but can be found at
http://www.lonix.org.uk/Meetings.html nearer the date.

---
GLLUG
Home Page: http://gllug.linux.co.uk/

Greater London Linux User Group's (GLLUG) purpose is to bring together
London's Linux users so they can share experiences and expertise (or
revel in their inexperience and quest for expertise), to chat about
the state of the (Linux) world, that sort of thing.

We try to arrange meets so that there is space for users to set up
their equipment, so you are welcome to bring your kit along, either to
go through the problems you are having or just to show off what you
are up to.

There are no formalities to attending a GLLUG meeting, no subscription
or entry fees, you can just turn up on the day. We welcome and
encourage new and inexperienced users, young and old.

Due to the high turnout GLLUG meetings are less frequent than the
other user groups, you can get notification of the next meeting either
on the home page or through this mail :)

---
SAGE-WISE
Home Page: http://www.sage-wise.org/
Map: http://www.sage-wise.org/lecture/directions.html

SAGE-WISE is the System Administrators Guild for Wales, Ireland,
Scotland and England, hence the "-WISE" suffix. Our aim is to form a
professional association for system administrators in the UK and
Ireland.

But what is a system administrator?

Professional system administrators, however, often look after large
numbers of computers and networks - they are the people who keep the
systems running, repair faulty discs, install and debug new software,
upgrade existing systems, and generally take care of the computing
resources needed for their users to perform their tasks effectively. A
shorter definition is "A system administrator is one who manages
computers not solely for his or her own use". If you know the joys and
frustrations of this then feel free to come and visit one of our
meetings.

This months SAGE-WISE meeting is on Tuesday 13th February and is held
at the Eisai Lounge, University College London, LONDON WC1.
(Directions and a map are available from the homepage.)

The host of this months discussion is James Hobson (Server-Side J2EE
developer and Linux guru) leading a BoF (informal discussion) entitled
The Battle of the Scripting Languages a BoF (informal discussion)
covering the various scripting languages available for web-page
generation (jsp, asp, perl, etc.).


Outside London Events:
---
This month sees the Open Source  Free Software Developers' Meeting
(http://www.osdem.org) on February 3-4 in Brussels, Belgium. Among the
speakers are Fydor, creator of Nmap (www.insecure.org), Renaud
Deraison (Nessus), Richard Stallman (FSF), Werner Koch (GnuPG), Jeremy
Allison (Samba), Philippe Biondi (LIDS and kernel security), Rasterman
(Enlightenment), and Wichert Ackerman (Debian).

A delegation may be leaving from London comprising of GLLUG and Lonix
members so if your interested in 

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine
running
samba
 is the prefered development environment.

Strangely enough, thats exactly what I do at home. With Exceed for
doing X
stuff.


If you've got a nice meaty box at home then run Linux with NT in
vmware, you get a very nice system that way. You have a two machine
subnet for clean network testing that can be firewalled off at the
Linux host os, you can use procmail to check for vbs viri and then use
outlook and IE for web browsing. Its how I used to do 95% of my work.
Well until my motherboard started frying harddrives...

Dean

PS Running Linux in VMWare on NT works fine as well but its sick :)

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Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Dean S Wilson

Original Message-
From: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Must remember to try IE under WINE.

Don't bother.  It doesn't work.


I've seen IE5 running under wine on Debian. The machine did have a 98
partition though so he might have been using the libraries from there,
is that cheating? :)

Dean
--
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand.
   ---  Anon




Perl Books

2001-01-23 Thread Dean S Wilson

I was having a look at the perl book reviews on Amazon (Yes boycott,
yes they have good reviews) when I came across this

Proceedings of the Perl Conference 4.0
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596000138/qid=980264576/sr=1
-62/202-4272860-9199824

I didn't get to go to that conference so can anyone who did go and
knows anything about this tell me if it contains details on the talks
and similar?

Dean
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   ---  Anon




Re: Extreme Programming (was: Re: Consultancy company)

2001-01-20 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Trevena [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I did a little pair programming at emap - I probably wasn't doing it
right
tho'. even so we did get thru the hard bits quicker and could split
up to
do the easy stuff. I think it made a difference but then I was mostly
being a backseat coder so either we did okay or stuart was very
tolerant
indeed.


How did you establish who would make good pairings? Was it done by
trying to place two equals or was it done more on a mentoring level of
a very experienced coder and a less experienced one? (I've not read
that much on XP)

Has anyone who's used XP had a client that was willing to make an
employee available pretty much full time or was it more they come in
for a chunk of the afternoon three times a week? I have an issue with
the fact that clients will be willing to pay a member of staff to
spend all day in the consultants office in case they need to be asked
questions. I'm not saying its a bad thing to have someone on hand, I
can see its uses but from the clients point of view why not just have
contact by phone/email. That was the liaison has access to everyone in
his base office so he can resolve issues faster with more authority
than if he were in your offices. Also you have a paper trail of
requests, questions and responses.

Is the Monday night meeting still on for those of us who can't make
the lunch time one?

Dean
--
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand.
   ---  Anon




Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-17 Thread Dean S Wilson

On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:08:41AM +, alex wrote:

 In my opinion London would be fine for an August conference.

 I don't know what the fuss is about, really.  London is not like
Paris in
 the summer.  We have a lot more parks.

 Perhaps September would be better, but hey.


I could go with September, if you go for before August the start of
July has a selection of stuff already in planning:

The summer Linux Developers' Conference Fri 29th June to Sun 1st July.

Linux Expo Weds 4th - Thurs 5th July in London.

LinuxTag Stuttgart (Germany) 5th-8th July 2001.

Also there is going to be a UKLISA in the second half of this year but
I'm not too sure of dates.

HTH
Dean

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Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-17 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(I'll have to remember that pop quizzes are a good way to force the
lurkers out of hiding :)


Nope its the lure of free alcohol.

Dean
-- 
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand.
   ---  Anon




Re: one liner

2001-01-07 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Dean S Wilson writes:
 Has anyone tried Linux glade recently? Is it stable with perl yet?

The TPJ that's stalled at the printers has a fantuckingfastic article
on getting started with Glade and Perl/Gtk.


I now hate you.

Dean
--
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand.
   ---  Anon




Re: one liner

2001-01-06 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Michael Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Greg are you trolling? If so let me play ;)

 the only thing that gives potential for the marketing of a language
is the
 projects that are achieved using it and java has a hell of a lot
more cool
 projects than perl

What are these mysterious cool java projects that no-one's been
telling
me about?


Fortay's a good example. A Java IDE written in Java, and under Linux
it's pretty quick even on 64 MB ram.


IBM developerworks and Alphaworks have tftp and dhcp servers in Java.
I wouldn't run them though :)

I think the best thing people can do for the language is create good
things
and modules and whatever using it.

I agree but I also think that this is one of the problems, the only
people who see the modules are other perl coders. I'm not saying that
modules are a bad thing or a waste of effort, I'd hate to think about
writing the code for half of the modules I use on a regular basis but
the only people who really understand and use them are perl coders,
people who know that perl is good. I think Greg means making something
a little more visible, How many netusers see the powered by python
logo on mailman each day? Whats our answer to that? Slashcode?

Plying devils advocate is fun.
Dean
--
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   ---  Anon




Re: one liner

2001-01-06 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Ok, we are not (void) but we are pretty close so here is a one liner
that
hopefully will provote discussion 


I left (void) and you'l not take me back alive! Outlook canne take the
strain!

the only thing that gives potential for the marketing of a language
is the
projects that are achieved using it and java has a hell of a lot more
cool
projects than perl

I think that marketing is the key term in this mail. Java has a good
marketing team and is being taught in universities at the moment,
nothing better than having a lot of fresh faced advocates being
spawned at the end of each term.

Dean (Playing both sides in this one)

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Damian's webpage.

2001-01-04 Thread Dean S Wilson

Don't know how many of you have seen this:
http://yetanother.org/damian/diary_January_2001.html#day_4

Made me chuckle.

Dean
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   ---  Anon




Re: Perl CD BookShelf 2nd Edition

2000-12-28 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Natalie Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 December 2000 18:54
Subject: Re: Perl CD BookShelf 2nd Edition


The problem being that I think they should include both and there is
noway
of voting for both!  :-)


I'd agree with both for more money. And they might as well add the DBI
book, it was light enough to be added at very little cost :)

ReviewGood book and very well written but too light techwise, a
bundle of FULL examples with different databases would have made it
better IMHO
/Review

Now that the cd bookshelves are taking off it might be time for ORA to
get a policy in place for upgrades, I'd rather pay 10-15 to upgrade my
perl and Unix CD first edition and miss out on the included book than
have to shell out for both of them at full price again. Might send
that in to "ask Tim" as it goes...

Dean
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Re: Perl CD BookShelf 2nd Edition

2000-12-28 Thread Dean S Wilson

Original Message-
From: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 get a policy in place for upgrades, I'd rather pay 10-15 to upgrade
my
 perl and Unix CD first edition and miss out on the included book
than
 have to shell out for both of them at full price again. Might send
 that in to "ask Tim" as it goes...

Or wait for our resident O'Reilly editor to pick up on it...

Good point! I just found this in the Ask Tim Archives. looks like
plans have been laid...


-Quote
Of course, CD Bookshelf products and ematter versions of some titles
are only two of many experiments we're running in an attempt to build
up business models for online books. We will be selling online access
to individual books and collections of books on a subscription basis
starting next year. And I imagine that we'll figure out some way of
giving a discount to people who've previously bought books. (It's a
good argument for product registration for books, so we know who's
bought them, and can make these kind of offers.)
Quote

Be interesting to see how they deal with it, and maybe we can start
getting bulk discounts :)

Dean
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