Re: YAPC::Europe: flights, hotels and minigolf.

2001-06-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
  * Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   Well, I'm now 'official' all the way, flights and hotel.
  
   Easyjey seem to have worked it out and have put up the flight
   costs by a couple of quid (£71 inc card charg of 3 quid)!
  
 
  still thats not bad
 
  what i think they do is start cheap then slowly raise the price
  as seats get booked up
 
  i'm wondering how many London.pm are going to be on this flight
 
  shit i just had a thought, do easy jet serve drinks? do they?
  please say they do? *panic starts to set in* ;-)
 
 
 There is a semi-decent bar at Gatwick airport anyhow ..

we can even stand outside the business lounge and wave in
at Dave Cross who will be stroking his gold plated cat and
enjoying a gimlet


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Re: (Open|Net)BSD local root exploit

2001-06-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 
  Now imagine a big field, with a treasure chest in the middle
  of it - this is your security.
 
 Now, imagine the chest is buried in the field, and no-one saw me bury it. 
 This is my security.
 
 Snip enormous security through obscurity tirade
 
 However, after playing Baldurs Gate 2 all weekend, I'm obliged to say that 

you should of let me know, and we could of played MP, the same goes
for any other BG2 or freeciv (just for you *nix compulsives) players
out there.

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Re: (Open|Net)BSD local root exploit

2001-06-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 
  I play Herod in a school play once.  Go figure.
 
 Aargh...played.  Maybe I should go and imbibe some of that caffeine stuff.
 

For what its worth I saw nothing wrong with your original message.

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Accomodation for YAPC::Europe

2001-06-18 Thread Greg McCarroll


Jouke is currently arranging reasonably priced hotel accomodation
for London.pm. He needs you to fill out the little informal form
he posted on YAPC::Europe's mailing list. This is an excellent
way to get your accomodation arranged quickly and easily and end
up spending time in a hotel with other mongers (that is mean't
to be a plus point). People can also share twin rooms to reduce
the cost further.

I'm note sure, but I'd imagine there is some limit on the number
of spaces that will end up being available. Especially when you
consider room configurations.

Greg


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Templating Solutions

2001-06-18 Thread Greg McCarroll


Friends,

HELP!

In a moment of stupidity[1] I agreed to write an article for lathos on
templating solutions for Perl. This was an attempt to finally break my 
writing block/issues/mindset problems. It is going to be a compare and 
contrast article and so far I've looked at,

Template Toolkit
HTML::Mason
Text::Template 
HTML::Template
HTML::Embperl
  
First, are there any others that I should look at? Also I'd really like
any objective input people have about templating with these modules. It
is important to me to try and not just get the article done and dusted,
but for once to write a piece of text that I am happy with.

Greg

[1] I get lots.

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Re: Templating Solutions

2001-06-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Philip Newton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Simon Wilcox wrote:
  I avoided HTML::Embperl, HTML::Mason  Apache::ASP because they all
  embed perl into the template which is a Bad Thing (tm).
 
 Why is that so evil?
 

i think it one of two schools of thought

is your template a Template or a Rich Template

by Rich Template i mean it has some programming language
type structures such as loops

i think, if i recall my limited research correctly, MJD talks about
this in the pod for Text::Template under the section Philosophy

Greg


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Re: (Open|Net)BSD local root exploit

2001-06-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Niklas Nordebo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 09:38:44AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
  However, after playing Baldurs Gate 2 all weekend, I'm obliged to say that 
  really if you have a priceless artifact that you don't want found, the 
  trick is to give to a peasant, because no adventurer is going to go round 
  killing every peasant in the land to find the one with the treasure. See 
  also the way diamonds are transported around Hatton Garden (i.e. in 
  people's pockets, not in securicor vans).
 
 And if you have a rouge stone worth 1500 gold you shouldn't put it in a
 chicken while a shady guy is watching, since said shady guy might tell some
 feisty adventurers about it for a small fee. Especially if you live in Umar
 Hills.
 

you know that game far to well! ;-)

 

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Re: (Open|Net)BSD local root exploit

2001-06-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Niklas Nordebo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 06:11:39PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  you know that game far to well! ;-)
 
 Probalby.
 
 While we're on the subject of computer games I recently found Civilization:
 Call to power on sale at HMV. Since I didn't like Civ 2 I'd been sceptical,
 but it was only five quid so I picked it up, and the let the box lie
 unopened for a couple of weeks, than I opened it and started playing last
 week and now I'm seriously addicted.
 

you should play freeciv

 64 bytes from 212.78.195.170: icmp_seq=2 ttl=236 time=3009.3 ms
 64 bytes from 212.78.195.170: icmp_seq=3 ttl=236 time=3012.4 ms

err maybe you shouldn't ;-)

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post from Elizabeth Castro's bbs

2001-06-18 Thread Greg McCarroll


# Subject : I like poo 
# Posted By: Sreejayanth
# Date: Tuesday, 19 June 2001, at 1:45 a.m. 
#
# I like poo 

Remind me again why you hang out here Dave?

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Re: YAPC::Europe: flights, hotels and minigolf.

2001-06-17 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Well, I'm now 'official' all the way, flights and hotel.
 
 Easyjey seem to have worked it out and have put up the flight
 costs by a couple of quid (£71 inc card charg of 3 quid)!
 

still thats not bad

what i think they do is start cheap then slowly raise the price
as seats get booked up

i'm wondering how many London.pm are going to be on this flight

shit i just had a thought, do easy jet serve drinks? do they?
please say they do? *panic starts to set in* ;-)

 Oh, Grep, I'm up for that AD  D one evening, though haven't
 played for years.
 

Sounds good, i'll pencil in your name and contact you closer
to the time about your character. I've already thought
up some of what the adventure will be about and It won't
be for the faint hearted! 

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Re: YAPC::Europe: flights, hotels and minigolf.

2001-06-17 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Tony Bowden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 04:51:24PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  shit i just had a thought, do easy jet serve drinks? do they?
  please say they do? *panic starts to set in* ;-)
 
 Yes ... but they charge for them ...
 

Excellent, i'll bring my jar of pennies 

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Maths Problem

2001-06-17 Thread Greg McCarroll


I was working on my talk for YAPC::Europe and I got a little distracted,
with the following problem and I also thought some of you might like to 
think about it.

First of all, consider the problem of distributing N points around the
origin evenly in 2D, so they are all the same distance from the origin.

Now this is quite easy, you can simply imagine a circle and the points
placed around the circle, each 360/N degrees apart in terms of projections
from the origin.

Simple huh?

Ok, now how can you distribute N points around the origin in _3_ dimensions,
again all of them at the same distance from the origin? Obviously
there will be an imaginary sphere again, but where do you put the points.

Thoughts are welcome, i'm currently trying to solve it and having
lots of gotchas. However if you have a complete solution please put
in some *spoiler* space.  

Greg

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Re: Maths Problem

2001-06-17 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Chris Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 06:58:03PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
  On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 06:52:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  
  Ok, now how can you distribute N points around the origin in _3_ dimensions,
  again all of them at the same distance from the origin? Obviously
  there will be an imaginary sphere again, but where do you put the points.
 
 Neat question for a Sunday evening: I've been wondering about that for a 
 while.

the main problem is for low values of N, i.e. the ones you can imaginine
in your head, you can figure out regular convex polyhedra whose points 
lie of the sphere and whose sides are all the same shape (i.e. a triangular
pyramid, a cube or diamond, etc. however i'm not convinced you can 
construct such shapes for all values of N

  Best general treatment of this I've seen is at
  http://www.math.niu.edu/~rusin/known-math/index/spheres.html
  
 
 and that page also has a link to Easy method for a fairly good point
 distribution  at http://www.math.niu.edu/~rusin/known-math/97/spherefaq

yes, but it leaves an unpleasant taste in your mouth afterwards,
or is that just me?

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Re: brief penderel outage

2001-06-16 Thread Greg McCarroll

* jo walsh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 i'm taking penderel down for a little bit
 services shouldnt be gone too long
 all will be back better and shinier sooner
 
 jo

jo++ # for doing this sort of stuff on a saturday


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Re: (Open|Net)BSD local root exploit

2001-06-16 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 As there's plenty of BSDers here, and I expect that at least some of you
 don't subscribe to Bugtraq and friends ...
 
 http://www.securityfocus.com/vdb/?id=2873
 

Yeah but its a local exploit, so it ain't that bad. I'm generally
of the opinion (warning ADD discussion on the horizon) that 
if someone gets into your box they can get r00t, so best to deal
with the problem before that and keep a careful eye of
people who are you in your box.

Its a bit like castle really, with external security and guards
wandering the corridors, if a sufficiently skilled assasin/thief
can get past the external security,  he can evade your normal
internal security and kill your king or steal your treasure.
Unless of course you hire Vadrienal the Elven Assasin/Fighter
to help guard your treasure (ok i'm going to far now).  

However this reminds me of how a top notch security consultant from a 
3 letter company described the security of a product i was at a time 
involved with (not in a security capacity).

He explained in a manner similar to the following 

Imagine you want to protect something, and its a treasure
chest, now you put the treasure chest in a room, you lock
the room. The room is in a castle, there are guards wandering
the corridors checking for intruders. The castle only has
one entrance via the drawbridge, its heavily guarded and all
incoming visitors are watched closely. There are guards on
the castle wall watching that no one tries to swim the moat.

Now imagine a big field, with a treasure chest in the middle
of it - this is your security.

Greg




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YAPC::Europe and Dungeons and Dragons

2001-06-16 Thread Greg McCarroll


 of the opinion (warning ADD discussion on the horizon) that 

i've got a new plan for the London.pm ADD game involving hacking
MudOS, but enought of that on to the point of this post

Do any people going to YAPC::Europe 2001, fancy a one
off ADD game in the hotel (as in THE hotel) DM'd by
yours truly on one of the nights? Probably starting
9ish till late.

 

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Re: YAPC::Europe

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Neil Ford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:17:53AM +0100, Dean wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 06:56:35PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
   Plane tickets are currently 37 quid return via easyjet...
  
  Are there any plans for a group of London PMer's to fly over together or is
  the whole thing going to be ad hoc? 
  
 Needing to get things sorted, we've booked our flights already. I know at
 least one other London.pmer is on the same flight as us (Easyjet from
 Gatwick, 14:45 Wednesday 1st).

i'm also booking that flight, my only problem is it wont accept my
switch card at the moment for some unknown reason

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Re: YAPC::Europe

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Neil Ford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:17:53AM +0100, Dean wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 06:56:35PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
   Plane tickets are currently 37 quid return via easyjet...
  
  Are there any plans for a group of London PMer's to fly over together or is
  the whole thing going to be ad hoc? 
  
 Needing to get things sorted, we've booked our flights already. I know at
 least one other London.pmer is on the same flight as us (Easyjet from
 Gatwick, 14:45 Wednesday 1st).
 

if anyone else is booking the gatwick departure on the 1/8 and the
return to gatwick on the 5/8 from easyjet (total cost 62.50) could
they book an extra ticket and i'll do a funds transfer to their
account or something

easyjet don't seem to like switch well at least not a switch card
that expires this month or the one that starts next month

hmmm  

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Re: YAPC::Europe (Ignore this request)

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll


Ok, ignore this request now. Also thanks to Simon Wilcox. for helping me out 
here.

I also believe others are flying on this flight, so it looks like we have
the official flight for London.pm ;-) and thanks to Jouke we can claim
to have an official London.pm hotel - with minibars and minigolf

* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 * Neil Ford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:17:53AM +0100, Dean wrote:
   On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 06:56:35PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
Plane tickets are currently 37 quid return via easyjet...
   
   Are there any plans for a group of London PMer's to fly over together or is
   the whole thing going to be ad hoc? 
   
  Needing to get things sorted, we've booked our flights already. I know at
  least one other London.pmer is on the same flight as us (Easyjet from
  Gatwick, 14:45 Wednesday 1st).
  
 
 if anyone else is booking the gatwick departure on the 1/8 and the
 return to gatwick on the 5/8 from easyjet (total cost 62.50) could
 they book an extra ticket and i'll do a funds transfer to their
 account or something
 
 easyjet don't seem to like switch well at least not a switch card
 that expires this month or the one that starts next month
 
 hmmm  
 
 -- 
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Re: YAPC::Europe (Ignore this request)

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Struan Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 * at 15/06 14:41 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:
  
  Ok, ignore this request now. Also thanks to Simon Wilcox. for helping me out 
  here.
  
  I also believe others are flying on this flight, so it looks like we have
  the official flight for London.pm ;-) and thanks to Jouke we can claim
  to have an official London.pm hotel - with minibars and minigolf
 
 somehow i just can't see offical hotel of london.pm being used in
 the marketing material...

site of the 2001 mini golf riot

may not go down well either, i'm not curious how much of the hotel
we can take up

will we get our own floor?

do we have enough airports to give us a private lan?

Greg 

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Re: YAPC::Europe (Ignore this request)

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Neil Ford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 03:30:36PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  * Struan Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   * at 15/06 14:41 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:

Ok, ignore this request now. Also thanks to Simon Wilcox. for helping me out 
here.

I also believe others are flying on this flight, so it looks like we have
the official flight for London.pm ;-) and thanks to Jouke we can claim
to have an official London.pm hotel - with minibars and minigolf
   
   somehow i just can't see offical hotel of london.pm being used in
   the marketing material...
  
  site of the 2001 mini golf riot
  
  may not go down well either, i'm not curious how much of the hotel
  we can take up
  
  will we get our own floor?
  
  do we have enough airports to give us a private lan?
  
 If we did, who'd pick up the phone bill?
 

we could always split it

or do they have unmetered called in Holland? If so and we had
a direct line we could beg a Dutch Monger to call in and
set up ppp to their broadband or similar connection

anyway just having a common Lan may be fun 

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early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll


I was just playing around and wrote 

http://217.34.97.146/~gem/perl/lpm_cpan_lb.cgi

It is a very alpha-ish cgi script that simply compiles a 
Leader Board of known London.pm people (including those
who may be outside the UK but still in there heart are
London.pmers) and ranks them according to the number of 
modules attributed to them in 03modlist.data.gz.

!!! THIS IS JUST A BIT OF FUN !!!

However if it does spur people to release the modules that
have been sitting on their hard disks for ages, so be it.
(Myself included).

I'll cleanup/optimize/add error checking tommorow. but 
i thought i'd let you see it tonight for fun and 
advance warning.

If i haven't got your CPAN id included in the list at the
bottom please email me off list, i just skipped through
the who's who very quickly getting a decent list of people
who looked london.pm-ish to test it.

Greg

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Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
 
  It is a very alpha-ish cgi script that simply compiles a 
  Leader Board of known London.pm people
 
 The modules list is a bit out of date in this case (I'm at eight)...
 

the blame the module list maintainer , not me ;-)



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Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:42:20PM +0100, Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
  Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
  
   It is a very alpha-ish cgi script that simply compiles a 
   Leader Board of known London.pm people
  
  The modules list is a bit out of date in this case (I'm at eight)...
 
 And, of course, not all modules on CPAN are in the module list 
 (see, for example, Symbol::Approx::Sub).
 

hmmm, somehow that strengthens the argument for using the module
list ;-)

however if someone can suggest a better way to evaluate the CPAN
contributions I'm all ears. I like the modlist, because theoretically
its things that have went through some form of QA[1][2] and become part
of the proper CPAN set.

Greg

[1] or KA [3]
[2] albeit limited [3]
[3] as someone once told me - Pratchett has a lot to answer for when
it comes to footnotes (paraphrased)


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Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:18:47PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
 
  Family graphs? Good call. What was that ancestry format again?
 
 GEDCOM.  I wrote Gedcom.pm and I've actually had a couple of people
 asking about Graphviz, but I had to say I didn't know anything about it.
 

and you've now been associated on the page with us as well ;-)

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Re: early peek at a bit of fun

2001-06-15 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:38:44PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
  and you've now been associated on the page with us as well ;-)
 
 Thanks.  I'll have to be an honourary member since I'm in Switzerland at
 the moment, but at least it bumps up the percentages on the web page 
 

Currently we are at 0.94% of CPAN, but i'm sure we have more contributors
than i have listed

if dha supplies me with a list of cpan ID's and names for NY i'll
do a similar page of NY and include the % of each on both pages



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another test

2001-06-14 Thread Greg McCarroll


this is the final test

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Re: your mail

2001-06-14 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dominic Mitchell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 05:16:00PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  yet another test
 
 I'm sorry, but you appear to have failed again.  This message is quite
 visible!  :-(
 

well i had managed to screw up mail for 2 days, i personally
believe it was a communist/socialist/signal lovers conspiracy to 
stop me being the king of the noise on london.pm

but i'm back and boy do i have a lot to post about!

wooo h

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YAPC::Europe

2001-06-14 Thread Greg McCarroll


So how many people are bringing partners to YAPC::Europe? 

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curse

2001-06-14 Thread Greg McCarroll


here was a fun unbless function i wrote in response to something
on spug's mailing list (it never made here or there, due to mailing
difficulties at the time)

sub curse ($) {
my $thing = shift;
if (!(ref($thing))) {
die Can't curse non-reference value;
}
if ($thing =~ m/=(SCALAR|ARRAY|HASH|CODE|GLOB)\(/) {
return bless $thing, $1;
} else {
return $thing;
}
}

Trelane then came up with this error case

$x = curse new String(This is a problem cos I have =ARRAY(foo in my text);
print $x,\n;

package String;

use overload '' = sub { $_[0]-{text}};
use overload;

sub new
{
my $class = shift;
return bless {text = join('',@_)}, $class;
}

which just shows you what a so and so he is ;-)

However there is a good soln in scalar::util or somesuch

Greg



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misc URL

2001-06-14 Thread Greg McCarroll


i'm not a great fan of people sending URLs randomly, but this has
to be an exception, remember the joy of your childhood years reading
the guiness book of records (and watching record breakers as well,
with Roy, Norris and later on  Cheryl). well you can relive that joy
at 

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/

and read stories about nutters like this (look out for the bit
from the coast guard/ sea rescue)

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/top_stories/topstorydetails.asp?TopStoryID=478
 

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Re: YAPC::Europe

2001-06-14 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
   So how many people are bringing partners to YAPC::Europe?
 
 Some of us can't afford YAPC.  
 

Well at least its not due to the entry fee and if its a matter
of accomodation cost, ask on the list for somewhere to crash.

 And some of us don't have partners :-(

Thats why you should come to YAPC::Europe and meet the monger
of your dreams ;-) 

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Re: YAPC::Europe

2001-06-14 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 It had been my intention for the whole Gellyfish Clan to venture forth to
 Amsterdam but it looks like I will be the only representative now as the
 leader has decided that she has been to Amsterdam too many times
 previously to justify the cost and I cant be arsed to argue about it :)
 

So how many of clan Cross intend to travel?

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Re: Religion (was Re: M$ SQueaLServer)

2001-06-09 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Philip Newton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Greg McCarroll wrote on Freitag, 8. Juni 2001 11:11
And some pieces of software just wont be able to be plugged
in - why can't i run Samba on Windows?
 
 Why would you want to?

* in a heterogeneous network i may want to standardise on a single SMB
  implementation so that logs, config, etc. are in the same format
* SAMBA offers functionality beyond that of the windows implementation,
  for instance i remember noting that you could link a shared ``printer''
  definition to an executable, i added a little bit of hacking, a poor 
  ps2html convertor and a webserver and i had a nice little document 
  storage/archiving system, that people could simply print to
* bugs/security holes may not be solved as quickly in MS's version
* i may be an open source zealot and want to know what is running on
  my machine down to each line of code (shame about the rest of the
  OS on this point)
* its my computer and i should be able to run what software/services
  i want and not be locked in

 AFAIK Samba implements the SMB protocol, which is the
 native resource (file, printer, ...) sharing protocol of Windows. So if you
 have Windows, you've already got an SMB client and server running.

for the same reasons people install apache on windows when they already have 
personal web server running ;-)

 Sounds a bit like How can I port MKS's korn shell to Unix? Is it
 possible?. Well, maybe the analogy is not so hot, but it's the best I can
 think of.

but if you have the source and some time you can, and you may do it for similar 
reasons to the ones i stated above

Greg

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Re: London.pm posting stats

2001-06-09 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:13:19PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  
  here is the results from a partial mbox of ny.pm messages, it is not
  that complete an mbox, but it does indicate that we are simply not
  doing or best to take over NY.pm
 
 You know, I've been meaning to ask...
 
 Why in the world would you *want* to take over NY.pm???
 

Because you've lost your way, there was a time that no one would ever
have to ask questions such as ...

Hmmm, is talking about beer off-topic or on-topic here?
- John Kominetz, 8/6/2001

Where did you go wrong? It used to be that London.pm could regard
NY.pm as its sister group (i would say brother, but you could never
handle your booze) shining brightly in the dark sky of Perl Monger
groups that talked about Perl. Whats next, NY.pm the educational 
cooperative? *shudder*

;-)


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Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: London.pm posting stats

2001-06-08 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Struan Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 snip type=pretty pitures/
 
 this is almost as bad as those games that make a point of letting you
 know exactly how long you've played it. 
 

yip, all that time and i still haven't ascended ;-)

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Re: Religion (was Re: M$ SQueaLServer)

2001-06-08 Thread Greg McCarroll
 it there and
  then. Its not that much to ask, it would just mean that when you get
  a fresh windows box you dont have to go and waste time installing
  additional software, and there are other examples of this ...

Editor
Scripting language
Cron

* Final reason (for now)

  I don't trust them. 

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Re: Religion (was Re: M$ SQueaLServer)

2001-06-08 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
There is entirely to much DLL upgrading for my liking at every possible
chance with Windows software/service pack. I don't believe that this can
really lead to a stable system.
 
 Win2k address a lot of these issues with its dll and system file control 
 programs. If you change a dll that's needed and the replacement dll
 doesn't work then the change gets tagged as a failure and rolled back by
 the system. It seems to work reasonably well, we've had no major dll screw
 ups.

how is this implemented? at filesystem level, i.e. spotting changes
of files or via special install programs?

will it work if some lunatic simple copies (or retores) a backup over
the DLLs

actually now that i mention it, time to mention the fact that although
windows has a lot of software very little of it supports any concept
of filesystems permission that has only been available since NT 
came about

 
  * No compiler
  
Why can't there be a compiler? Please just a simple one, so that if
i want to write some little program for myself I can do it there and
then. Its not that much to ask, it would just mean that when you get
a fresh windows box you dont have to go and waste time installing
additional software, and there are other examples of this ...
 
 (You said this is about servers) 
 Compilers on servers are a bad idea both from the security perspective
 and from a stability angle. I don't care how good a coder you are, your
 not writing code on the server. In a real production environment you need to
 test it and do change control. I have an issue with this since i got a
 phone call at 3am this morning after someone did just this.
 
 I only leave an interpreter on servers for my own convenience and even then
 i shouldn't. Of course if your server runs an interpreted language then yes
 you need it :)
 

thats fine, but what should i do the development on? maybe it should at
least be an option in the install process, and i don't mean an option
asking 

Would you like Windows to grab your Credit Card number and
 order yet another expensive M$ product for you? It will be
 know trouble we can send the order when we connect to log
 other information about you and your installed software. 

  Editor
 Wordpad :)

calling wordpad an editor is as laughable as calling vi an editor ;-)

 
  Cron
 The at command or the task scheduler.
 

fine, how do you run something everyday at 3am?

-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: Religion (was Re: M$ SQueaLServer)

2001-06-08 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Struan Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 * at 08/06 11:35 +0100 Robin Szemeti said:
  On Fri, 08 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  
   calling wordpad an editor is as laughable as calling vi an editor ;-)
  
  arrghh .. burn the heretic! ... speak brother, for the truth will out ..
  have you been using [x{0,1]]emacs again ... ?
 
 and thus comes the inevitable end[1] to all unix geek discussions...
 

No, we haven't taught the discussion to send mail yet.

-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: London.pm posting stats

2001-06-08 Thread Greg McCarroll


here is the results from a partial mbox of ny.pm messages, it is not
that complete an mbox, but it does indicate that we are simply not
doing or best to take over NY.pm

does anyone have a larger set of NY.pm messages we could analyse?

  David H. Adler:  137 **
   Michael G Schwern:   77 
 Jeff Pinyan:   42 ***
 John van V.:   28 **
Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO:   28 **
   guinevere liberty:   25 *
 David Combs:   24 
  Greg McCarroll:   21 ***
 Adam Turoff:   20 ***
Brooklyn Linux Solutions:   20 ***
Chris Nandor:   18 **
  Jordan Coleman:   17 **
 Abigail:   16 *
  David Cantrell:   16 *
   Joshua Kronengold:   16 *
  Walt Mankowski:   15 *
  Jay Sulzberger:   13 
Ruben I Safir - Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO:   13 
  James E Keenan:   12 
  Gidon Wise:   11 
Martin Heinsdorf:   11 
  Dave Cross:   10 ***



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Re: Social meet

2001-06-07 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 Oki, assuming I don't get stranded in rush hour traffic (I'm only
 ickle), can find my way to the the PO (I used to do orienteering)
 and can recognise you lot, I shall see you tomorrow.  Tho' if
 anyone going has a mobile I'd appreciate the number just in case.
 
 L.
 07939 476024
 

i'm 07957 386 815

i'm also going to be free this afternoon after about 2 ish (ill
switch the phone on then) so if anyone wants to meet up before
the meeting give me a bell

-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: Social meet

2001-06-07 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Robert Shiels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
  i'm 07957 386 815
 
  i'm also going to be free this afternoon after about 2 ish (ill
  switch the phone on then) so if anyone wants to meet up before
  the meeting give me a bell
 
 Between 5 and 6pm I'll be wandering up and down TCR looking for a new PDA.
 Sony Clie is my preferred choice at the moment. If anyone knows a good shop,
 or is good at haggling and wants to help, I'm on 07801 814138.
 

funny enough i was planning on going to TCR as well, for a new digital
camera (something cheap and cheerful) - i just hope PO will let me
charge it 

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Re: Tie::Hash::Cannabinol

2001-06-06 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Richard Clyne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I always thought that a data structure that mimicked a bus queue would
 be useful.
 
 If you request more items than are in the queue (e.g. lots of empty
 seats) the queue returns the items in order.  If you request less items
 than are in the queue (Bus almost full) the largest items push through
 and are selected.

Fun!

the following should do what you want, although i'm not sure if freezing
non-references is fair on them and i'm sure the sort condition syntax
can be shortened by the perl golfers on the list ...

package BusQueue;

use strict;
use Storable qw(freeze);

sub new {
my $class = shift;
my $self  = [];
return bless $self, $class;
}

sub insert {
my $self = shift;
push(@$self, @_);
}

sub remove {
my $self = shift;
my ($num) = @_;
@$self = sort {
my $sa;
my $sb;
if (ref($a)) {
$sa = length(freeze($a));
} else {
$sa = length(freeze(\$a));
}
if (ref($b)) {
$sb = length(freeze($b));
} else {
$sb = length(freeze(\$b));
}
$sb = $sa;
} @$self;
return splice @$self, 0, $num;
}

1;


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Re: BUFFY - SPOILERS , DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN SKY 1 LAS T NIGHT

2001-06-04 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 10:43 AM
 
 [there are actually no spoliers left in this post so I'm removing the
 spoiler space]
 
  i'm a little worried that the next season will suck.
  lets wait and see if the warning signs are there, more
  weird settings i.e. they all get sucked into the
  movie casablanca and the episode is entirely in black
  and white, guest appearances from other shows/from
  major celebrities.
 
 Apparently they're planning a musical episode[1]
 

ah well, we can probably also expect The Rock from WWF
to show up and lay the smack down on some vamps, also 
expect to here plans for a BtVS movie as well, so they
can get use out of the sets one more time.

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Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: Inline::PERL

2001-06-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Marcel Grunauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sunday, June 3, 2001, at 05:56  AM, David H. Adler wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 09:40:49AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
 
  Inline::PERL gives you the power of the PERL programming language from
 
  And what, exactly, is the PERL programming language?
 
 It is the wicked, twisted spectre of Perl that haunts the minds of
 script kiddies. In some cultures it is known as CGI; other cultures
 have no name for it. Well-informed people normally run when they
 encounter it.
 
 A saving throw against mental instability applies.
 

Most of characters are excused these sorts of saving throws as they
are too twisted/evil to get freaked by whatever demanding the ST.

-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: General Election

2001-06-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 09:25:21AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
  
  Oh I did ... In general I find Billy Braggs ability to produce 'something
  you could mistake for music' roughly equal to Craig Charles' ability to
  tell a joke. .. although he was passibly OK in Red Dwarf.
 
 Billy Bragg was in Red Dwarf?  I never noticed...
 

yeah, remember he was the one that sucked emotions out of everyone
he encountered ;-) 

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Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: BUFFY - SPOILERS , DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN SKY 1 LAST NIGHT

2001-06-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sun, 03 Jun 2001, Neil Ford wrote:
  On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 04:45:45PM +0100, Leo Lapworth wrote:
   On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 08:19:56AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 07:47:00AM +0100, Greg McCarroll 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 
 
 *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* 
 *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* 
 *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Well what about last night? Buffy no more? Well I'm pretty sure she
 will be back, my reasoning - they played the normal end of show credits/
 theme tune, if they had of killed the character off, there would of been
 a special ending. Mind you, when I explained this theory to the wife she
 used the phrase ``clutching at straws''

Well, how about the argument that SMG has singed up for two more series?

   I've been told (*prays this is not true*) that SMG signed up for two
   more series but has a clause that if Univeral Pictures produce it she
   is not oblidged to do them (as apparently she didn't want to work for
   Universal).
   
   So, this could be an ending to make sure she and Univeral have
   time to work it out...
   
   i just hope I have been mis-informed.
   
  Trying to remember where I read this (probably Heat) but SMG *had* said she
  wouldn't stay with the show if it moved from WB to UPN. 
  
  Quick bit of digging and I've found the following;
  [Heat Magazine, 19-25 May 2001]
  The producers of Buffy, Fox TV, have offered ridiculous soundbites to justify
  switching TV networks in the US. The WB, home to Buffy since it's inception,
  did not match the passion and vision demonstrated by rival network UPN,
  which has secured the show for two years. The fact that UPN bid a total of
  $22 million more than WB wasn't mentioned by Fox.
  
  UPN sontinued to show it's vision and passion with the $50,000 gift
  baskets it sent eight Buffy cast regulars to welcome them to their new
  network - which included Cristal champagne and a Cartier watch, Sarah
  Michelle Gellar - who once said she'd quit Buffy if it left WB, then retracted
  the comments - was given a Gucci necklace.
 
 kewl ... so Buffy likes necklaces then. 
   ^
   |
   +--- It was about here i guessed
where this was going ;-)  
  
 we could give her one as a present .. that would be nice ... diamond
 maybe ...or since we are a Perl group perhaps ... oh ok .. you're way
 ahead of me on this one aren't you. ;)
 
 -- 
 Robin Szemeti   
 
 Redpoint Consulting Limited
 Real Solutions For A Virtual World 
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old pictures

2001-06-03 Thread Greg McCarroll


just looking at some old pictures of london.pm meetings and YAPC::Europe
and i came across the classic, London.pm drinking in a hair dressing salon,

http://217.34.97.146/~gem/pics/london.pm/2000/july/DSCF0036.JPG

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Re: old pictures

2001-06-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
  
  just looking at some old pictures of london.pm meetings and YAPC::Europe
  and i came across the classic, London.pm drinking in a hair dressing salon,
  
  http://217.34.97.146/~gem/pics/london.pm/2000/july/DSCF0036.JPG
  
 
 Toilet seats don't make as good props as skateboards - we need to somehow
 smuggle an inflatable dinghy into a pub.
 

preferably into a river side pub, then with the dinghy we have a convenient
means of escape when we liberate the pub's jugs of TVR from them 

-- 
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Re: old pictures

2001-06-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 
  just looking at some old pictures of london.pm meetings and YAPC::Europe
  and i came across the classic, London.pm drinking in a hair dressing salon,
 
  http://217.34.97.146/~gem/pics/london.pm/2000/july/DSCF0036.JPG
 
 
 But what *was* that all about ?
 

because we're worth it?

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Re: The truth will out ( was Re: BUFFY - SPOILERS , DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN SKY 1 LAST NIGHT)

2001-06-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dave Hodgkinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  now i remember
  the good old days of live and kicking with sarah green and pete and simon
  
  ahhh halycon days 
 
 halcyon?
 

some of us are blessed with typing speeds above that of normal mortals
and hence find that normal `earth' keyboards do not always keep up with
us - hence this unfortunate inicdant ;-)

 Anyway we all know it peaked with Sally James...
 

tiswas? a tiswas ... 

-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



BUFFY - SPOILERS , DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN SKY 1 LAST NIGHT

2001-06-02 Thread Greg McCarroll




*SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* 
*SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* 
*SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* 









































Well what about last night? Buffy no more? Well I'm pretty sure she
will be back, my reasoning - they played the normal end of show credits/
theme tune, if they had of killed the character off, there would of been
a special ending. Mind you, when I explained this theory to the wife she
used the phrase ``clutching at straws''

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: BUFFY - SPOILERS , DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN SKY 1 LAST NIGHT

2001-06-02 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 07:47:00AM +0100, Greg McCarroll 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
  
  
  *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* 
  *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* 
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  Well what about last night? Buffy no more? Well I'm pretty sure she
  will be back, my reasoning - they played the normal end of show credits/
  theme tune, if they had of killed the character off, there would of been
  a special ending. Mind you, when I explained this theory to the wife she
  used the phrase ``clutching at straws''
 
 Well, how about the argument that SMG has singed up for two more series?
 

i didn't know that - THANKS DAVE! 


-- 
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Re: BUFFY - SPOILERS , DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN SKY 1 LAST NIGHT

2001-06-02 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 07:47:00AM +0100, Greg McCarroll 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   
   
   
   *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* 
   *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* 
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   will be back, my reasoning - they played the normal end of show credits/
   theme tune, if they had of killed the character off, there would of been
   a special ending. Mind you, when I explained this theory to the wife she
   used the phrase ``clutching at straws''
  
  Well, how about the argument that SMG has singed up for two more series?
  
 
 i didn't know that - THANKS DAVE! 
 

just to clarify that, that was a genuine thanks, not a sarcastic one.
after i hit send, i thought it could of sounded sarcastic.

-- 
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Re: BUFFY - SPOILERS , DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN SKY 1 LAST NIGHT

2001-06-02 Thread Greg McCarroll

* James Powell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 08:19:56AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
  On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 07:47:00AM +0100, Greg McCarroll 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   
   
   
   *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* 
   *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* *SPOILER ALERT* 
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   will be back, my reasoning - they played the normal end of show credits/
   theme tune, if they had of killed the character off, there would of been
   a special ending. Mind you, when I explained this theory to the wife she
   used the phrase ``clutching at straws''
  
  Well, how about the argument that SMG has singed up for two more series?
  
 
 BAH!
 

The main bummer after last nights episode is that glory is dead, and i was 
just starting to warm to her, only she wasn't quite psychotic enough. ;-)

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net




Re: Religion

2001-06-02 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sat, 02 Jun 2001, Alex Page wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 07:36:12PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
  
   What with this and Piers' earlier revelations  and the ever present
   Unixbeard I have this feeling that maybe we ought to get a Morris Side
   together for next years Jack in the Green festival in Hastings,
  
  Heh, I haven't done Morrising for ages. Count me in!
 
  mental image of Greg and Piers, having had a few pints, lurching
 towards each other in a corner dance singing 'hey ho fiddle eye ho' and

hey! you won't catch me performing some stupid historic ceremony, no siree.
however i could be persuaded to drink a lot[1] and demand to walk a 
stretch of road with a bit of orange material round my neck and a little
velvet apron round my waste - now thats a proper tradition! ;-) 

Greg

[1] that wasn't fair as most traditional orange men are christians and
coming from N.I. that generally means they drink very little, if at all. 

-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: The truth will out ( was Re: BUFFY - SPOILERS , DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN SKY 1 LAST NIGHT)

2001-06-02 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Matthew Robinson wrote:
 
  [1] Don't ask me why I was watching Live  Kicking as I don't know the
  answer
 
 
 Oh we will ask you, and you are expected to make up some bulllshit however
 ludicrous,  now that Ant  Dec dont do it you cant say you fancy them ...
 

nah Jonathan, you got it wrong, they were on the other side on CD UK or
some such. they were actually quite entertaining with cat deally, however
you spell it, with them. i think they got moved to prime time, which
probably will be a one season wonder. as for live and kicking it seems
to have gone down the tubes badly, there is some american bloke who
really has a persona that makes you want to ram his head repeatedly into
plate glass until you break through and it also has that tart (i say
that in an accurate way) from the karaoke show with suggs. now i remember
the good old days of live and kicking with sarah green and pete and simon

ahhh halycon days 


-- 
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Richard Clamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 07:40:46PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
  I'm still up for organizing it - its just herding you cats up in one place
  is the problem.
 
 If you book it, they will come.
 

i suggest booking it for the saturday on the next bank holiday weekend

this feels *good*

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: General Election

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 You'll have noticed, I hope, that next Thursday is both our June meeting and
 a General Election. I hope you'll all go and vote before the meeting so you
 don't have to dash off before the polling stations close :)
 
 Someone (Paul?) mentioned a couple of weeks ago that it might be nice if we
 could all go somewhere after the pub to watch the results come in and...

Ah, its been ages since I had an ``election night party'', COUNT me in!
(geddit, _count_, as in vote count! *lol*, i kill myself ;-) )


 er... celebrate another victory for the christian democrats. If anyone
 still thinks this is a good idea, then I'm happy to offer my house as a
 venue for this. I suggest we leave the pub at about 9:30pm and get the tube
 back to mine, stopping at Threshers en route.
 

Is that so you can pick up some champagne, for labour's particular
brand of socialism ;-)

Greg

-- 
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Re: General Election

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Robert Shiels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 What! You mean go south of the river after dark. I'm afraid I'm not properly
 insured for that kind of excursion :)

what sort of insurance do you need? insurance against culture? insurance
against clearner air? insurance against nice restaurants and bars? insurance
against safer streets?

bah, south london is where its at ;-)

 Nice offer, though if I took it up my chances of making it home at all would
 be very slim. Does anyone know what time the result is usually announced
 (and 38 days is not an acceptable answer, this isn't Florida!)

its not really announced at a specific time IIRC, it is a final result
when one party has enough people to `form a government', i.e. a majority

-- 
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General Election - additional idea

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll


If we are at Dave's we could have a little competition, quite simply,
write a CGI script that takes 2 or 3 numbers (cons seats, lab seat and
others) and display some sort of visualisation of the numbers in
classic Peter Snow style. The winner is the one judged coolest by
the people at Dave's house. All scripts must be written in Perl
and URLs should be submitted on the day.


-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: General Election

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:10 AM
 
  i'll be with you standing on his doorstep Jonathan, especially as
  it was written by a member of the irish republic brotherhood ;-),
  and we all know what results are important on thursday night -
  thats right the northern irish ones! [1]
 
  [1] disclaimer ... in case anyone doesn't know me, statements i
  make about northern irish politics are generally made with tongue
  in cheek
 
 In fact, Greg is _such_ an expert on the Northern Ireland[1] electoral
 system that he fails to remember that the votes aren't counted until Friday
 morning :)

did i specify a time that i'd be leaving your house? ;-)

-- 
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Re: General Election - additional idea

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Robert Shiels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  If we are at Dave's we could have a little competition, quite simply,
  write a CGI script that takes 2 or 3 numbers (cons seats, lab seat and
  others) and display some sort of visualisation of the numbers in
  classic Peter Snow style. The winner is the one judged coolest by
  the people at Dave's house. All scripts must be written in Perl
  and URLs should be submitted on the day.
 
 I like this idea - is there anywhere that is providing this data in an
 easily slurpable format so that the script can actually work without user
 intervention?
 

we could agree that a particular URL would return the data, stick
a CGI in there, returning dummy information and then on the night
change that CGI, that way none of the visualisation scripts would
require changing

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: General Election - additional idea

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
  I like this idea - is there anywhere that is providing this data in an
  easily slurpable format so that the script can actually work without user
  intervention?
  
 
 we could agree that a particular URL would return the data, stick
 a CGI in there, returning dummy information and then on the night
 change that CGI, that way none of the visualisation scripts would
 require changing
 

i should of said, change that CGI to scrape the information from
somewhere 

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
  * Richard Clamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 07:40:46PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
I'm still up for organizing it - its just herding you cats up in one place
is the problem.
  
   If you book it, they will come.
  
 
  i suggest booking it for the saturday on the next bank holiday weekend
 
  this feels *good*
 
 
 
 Well we will all have recovered from Amsterdam by then :)
 
 Sounds like a plan.
 

so when is the next bang holiday weekend?

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 * Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  
   * Richard Clamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 07:40:46PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 I'm still up for organizing it - its just herding you cats up in one place
 is the problem.
   
If you book it, they will come.
   
  
   i suggest booking it for the saturday on the next bank holiday weekend
  
   this feels *good*
  
  
  
  Well we will all have recovered from Amsterdam by then :)
  
  Sounds like a plan.
  
 
 so when is the next bang holiday weekend?
 

blech has just informed me, its 27/8/2001, which would make
the first annual grand London.pm crazy golf open on the 25/8/2001

now what do people want to do? go to hastings and return the
same day? stay over?   

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: General Election

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:24:57PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
 
  How about:
  
  The working class can kiss my arse
  I've got the foreman's job at last.
  
  Or
  The people's flag is deepest puce
  with fleurs de lys in pale chartreuse
 
 Pah!
 
 Sing to the Motherland, home of the free,
 Bulwark of peoples in brotherhood strong.
 O Party of Lenin, the strength of the people,
 To Communism's triumph lead us on!
 

sing all you want, it will be you lot who have egg on your
faces when a unionist/conservative coalition government is
in power in a few weeks, ohhh yes

;-)

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 [1] But you've got to admit, she does look good for her age. Yeah, well so
 would I if I HADN'T DONE A FUCKING DECENT DAY'S WORK IN MY LIFE.
 

Well you don't look that good, and you are a contractor ;-)

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Windows Perl - how?

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Andy Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 You can find it at
 http://download.microsoft.com/download/platformsdk/wininst/1.1/W9X/EN-US/InstMsi.exe

yip i've seen this format as well, does anyone know what advantages it
has? does it enforce any standards for the software? is it just a M$ 
ploy to control the standard install packages?

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:02 PM
 
  Just plucked this out of alt.humour.best.of.usenet (originally from
  the frasier newsgroup), and it made me curl up with laughter, maybe 
  its not everyones taste of funny but some may enjoy it  
 
 [snip]
 
 Heh! Sounds like he should be talking to Mike Corley[1].
 
 Dave...
 
 [1] http://www.pair.com/spook [2] for those of you not yet acquainted with
 Mr Corley's particualt brand of madness.

if you really want to find out about Mr Corley, you are far better
doing a dejanews search for the man, i even found a FAQ about him, my 
favourite bit was ...

 2.  What is the evidence for his claims?

 Evidence is Mike's Achilles Heel, the area where he has most
 difficulty. Over the years, many people have tried to help him present
 convincing evidence for his claims of MI5 persecution. They have asked
 the pertinent questions: What is their motive? How are they able to do
 it? Sadly, despite all this encouragement from other Usenet users, Mike
 has made very little progress in this respect to date.

thats spys for you, they never leave you evidence!


 [2] At least, that _was_ his web site, but trying to access it from behind
 this firewall I get The Websense category Tasteless is restricted.

its a conspiracy!

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Cross David - dcross wrote:
  
  [1] http://www.pair.com/spook [2] for those of you not yet acquainted with
  Mr Corley's particualt brand of madness.
  
  [2] At least, that _was_ his web site, but trying to access it from behind
  this firewall I get The Websense category Tasteless is restricted.
 
 
 404 - G3b0rk3d

more evidence of a conspiracy!

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:25 PM
 
  Cross David - dcross wrote:
  
   [1] http://www.pair.com/spook [2] for those of you not yet acquainted
 with
   Mr Corley's particualt brand of madness.
   
   [2] At least, that _was_ his web site, but trying to access it from
 behind
   this firewall I get The Websense category Tasteless is restricted.
  
  404 - G3b0rk3d
 
 'K. Try this one then http://www.five.org.uk/.
 
 I have reasons to believe that Mike Corley lives very close to me.
 

Surely you mean Boleslaw Tadeusz Szocik. He lives i believe in
Englewood Road, SW12 (exact number removed just in case).

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:10:39PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
 
  Heh! Sounds like he should be talking to Mike Corley[1].
 
 Is that fuckwit still going?
 

yeah, but he's a little thin these days as he's been on a spam and rice
diet to use up his Y2K emergency supplies ;-)

(sorry that was to easy to skip over)

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Robert Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  From: Andy Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
  On Thu, 31 May 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote:
  
   That's the one. And that _is_ very close to me.
  
   Dave...
  
  
  I'd move
   
  Andy
 
 
 Nah...
 
 Have some fun...
 
 Walk down the road wearing a trench coat (preferably black), hat (again
 black for preference), dark glasses and carrying a video camera.


add some form of protective clothing and a mini sattelite dish with leads
dissappearing into a satchel for more fun

 Stopping every 20 to 30 yards and panning the camera around just adds to the
 effect.
 

also do it every day at a different time, but make sure their is some form
of pattern to your time, for instance make the number of minutes past 6 oclock
equal to the prime series mod 60



-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: OT,Joke : Forwarded from alt.humour.best.of.usenet

2001-05-31 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Andy Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
   Walk down the road wearing a trench coat (preferably black), hat (again
   black for preference), dark glasses and carrying a video camera.
 
 
  add some form of protective clothing and a mini sattelite dish with leads
  dissappearing into a satchel for more fun
 
   Stopping every 20 to 30 yards and panning the camera around just adds to the
   effect.
  
 
  also do it every day at a different time, but make sure their is some form
  of pattern to your time, for instance make the number of minutes past 6 oclock
  equal to the prime series mod 60
 
 
 Way too much thought has gone into this are you sure _you're_ not part
 of THE conspiracy!!!
 

no, otherwise i would of specified to start this with a prime greater than 60 

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



bad greg

2001-05-30 Thread Greg McCarroll


i'm sorry about asking this, but i've purged too many old archives
of london.pm to find this one - someone one once mentioned a domain
name registry with a neat web based management system for handling
the dns wizardry afterwards - could they please remind me of the
url?

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: [PUB] Possible candidate

2001-05-30 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:00 AM
 
  Was meandering aimlessly round by Southwark/ Blackfriar's Bridge/ Tate
  Modern area last night and ended up in a very nice pub by the river
  called Doggets Coat and Badge. I have the manager's business card at
  home.
 
 pedant
 That's Doggett Coat and Badge - a pint to the forst person to explain the
 name.
 /pedant
 
 It _is_ a nice pub. Tho' it's distance from tube stations may count against
 it.
 
 The other problem that I have with it is that it used to have a tendancy to
 keep City Pub hours - i.e. to close at 9pm.
 
 I think it's too late to organise anything for tonight, but feel free to

whats tonight?

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: SQL statements to DB Schema (dia ?)

2001-05-30 Thread Greg McCarroll


so will ERwin for Windows

* James Powell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I believe Visio will do this with an ODBC link to mysql...
 
 But of course it costs...
 
 On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 06:32:52AM +, Greg Cope wrote:
  Dear All
  
  This is not perl related, but I hope to tap your collective knowledge.
  
  I'm involved with taking on a project started (and nearly finished) by
  an Agency writen mostly in PHP and Delphi. No statements that I'm
  already in trouble - thanks.
  
  I have no DB schema, and as such could dump the SQL schema (via
  mysqldump) - and I was wondering if there was a super thing that could
  translate the create table stuff into a diagram I could print, and then
  look at  If this worked on Linux and involved perl and Dia then it
  would be fab.
  
  Thanks for your time.
  
  Greg
  
-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: [PUB] Possible candidate

2001-05-30 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Cross David - dcross wrote:
  
  I think it's too late to organise anything for tonight, but feel free to
  organise a recce for next month.
 
 Tonight? But it's Wednesday the 30th today.
 

that makes two of us, shurely the next meeting is over a week away,

 /me gets confused
 

i'm glad its not just me
-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: [PUB] Possible candidate

2001-05-30 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 I think it's too late to organise anything for next week (June meeting), but

are we that bad?

 feel free to organise a recce before the following (July) meeting.

especially as the long summer nights are perfect for riverside pubs

 Apologies for fuckwittage.

its ok, its so much easier when you calculate it as the day after
the first wednesday of the month, see, today is wednesday, but not
the the first one of the month, so it cant be any time soon

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: l337

2001-05-30 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 my name is jon i have installed an irc client on my linux shell account can u tell 
me where the c00lest irc places are like what server and channel and stuff u all use 
so i can learn PERL and hacking and stuff from l337 ppl like all u are.
 
 tx!!
 

hey dude,

check out ...

irc.rhizomatic.net
london.rhizomatic.net

join #london.pm and meet lots of hot chix who you can ask a/s/l to and ask if they have
any war3z or pr0n

laterz,
 z3R0 c0o1



Re: [PUB] Possible candidate

2001-05-30 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
 
 Maybe I should have said a pint to the first person WHO WASN'T IN THE PUB
 LAST NIGHT LEARNING ALL ABOUT THE HISTORY to explain the name.
 

Well in that case i qualify .

  The right to wear Doggett's Coat and Badge is the prize in a rowing race
  held yearly since 1715 between London Bridge and Cadogan Pier, Chelsea
  in London. It was initiated by Thomas Doggett to commemorate the
  coronation of George I. The badge is silver and shows the white horse of
  Hannover. The race is now held in July.  Btw, the coat is red.


now where is my pint?

 Dave...
 [giving up now]
 

bah, and the week has hardly started




Y::E accomodation

2001-05-30 Thread Greg McCarroll


we were just talking on IRC and the subject of accomodation for YAPC::Europe
came up again, 

it was previously discussed that a hotel in amsterdam would be better,
for a few reasons, including going out in the evening, partners having
something to do during the day, etc.

now all we need is a volunteer to arrange and organise us all, someone who knows 
amsterdam so well they might form Amsterdam.pm ..

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Y::E accomodation

2001-05-30 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:53:00PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  we were just talking on IRC and the subject of accomodation for YAPC::Europe
  came up again, 
 
 For those of us without the time for both the List and the IRC channel is
 there any chance of a summery about what the group plans are? Or is it a free
 for all?
 

there are no plans, and i'd rather not do this for several good reasons.

however i've had a look over amsterdamn hotels, and the best option that will
keep everyone happy appears to be going for a reasonable 3* or 4* hotel, that
does tripple or quad rooms for people if they want to save a bit of cash

the 2* hotels look a little grim and the better 4* hotels are pricey

the sort of questions that whoever organises this needs to know is ...

Who is going? 

and if you are going .

What sort of room do you want?

i.e. 

single
double 
don't mind sharing with another
don't mind sharing with 3
don't mind sharing with 4

What are you willing to pay per night? 

What do you require from the room?

i.e.

minibar
safe
TV
shower
bath
jacuzzi

What do you require from the hotel?

i.e.

bar
pool
gym


if we get this , then someone that knows amsterdam can do the leg work

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net




Re: Y::E accomodation

2001-05-30 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Robert Shiels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 30 May 2001 13:13
 Subject: Re: Y::E accomodation
 
 
  * Dean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:53:00PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
we were just talking on IRC and the subject of accomodation for
 YAPC::Europe
came up again,
  
   For those of us without the time for both the List and the IRC channel
 is
   there any chance of a summery about what the group plans are? Or is it a
 free
   for all?
  
 
  there are no plans, and i'd rather not do this for several good reasons.
 
 I'm not booking anything unless I have a ticket for the conference.

i dont think that will be a problem this year

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Y::E accomodation

2001-05-30 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Redvers Davies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  dunno if this is useful .. but if possible, try and avoid hotels that are
  only prepared to take bookings for 1 hour slots. 
 
 Indeed.  I will probably use my usual hotel in Amsterdam as it is nice,
 quiet, 15 mins from the centre by Tram and (my favorite bit) - every room
 has a Jaccuzi[1].

and the name of this hotel would be . ?

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Talks and Stuff

2001-05-30 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Dave Hodgkinson sent the following bits through the ether:
  Redvers Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   Is there is list of the applications that have been made?  
 
  I _think_ I've submitted, but I'm not sure! I filled in a form and
  everything but I've had no real affirmation
 
 1) no you can't - but submit both anyway and let the organisers decide
 
 2) there is no form - just an email address, huh?

 
so we can just submit anything we like to the email address? how about
an AVI of me doing my outline in the form of interpretive dance?

what you mean no i can't? damn the ICA would of loved that one last
year ;-)



Re: Email::Valid

2001-05-30 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Andy Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 So I guess [EMAIL PROTECTED] is invalid even though it works wierd!
 

its not the email address thats broken, its your SMTP server ;-)

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: [PUB] Possible candidate

2001-05-30 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Neil Ford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:00:05AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
  Was meandering aimlessly round by Southwark/ Blackfriar's Bridge/ Tate
  Modern area last night and ended up in a very nice pub by the river
  called Doggets Coat and Badge. I have the manager's business card at
  home.
  
  Nice beer (Speckled Hen, IPA, Pride), quiet, by the river, tasteful
  decor, few stairs, mercifully Barley free. Named after the oldest rowing
  race in the world (or vice versa) which started in 1721 and is still
  raced today.
  
 Only one question food?
 

this is going to be a stickler, its a case of we can't yet find the perfect
pub for everyone. so from now on i recommend the following measuring system, 
one point for each Y/N category, half a point if its uncertain 

Good Beer? 
Nice surroundings (beer garden in summer/open fire in winter)?
Food that can be ate in bar?
Lots of seating?
Quiet (i.e. you can hear each other talk)?
Central to ``business'' London?

with this scale, 

Penderels scores  0,0,1,1,0.5,1 = 3.5
Anchor scores ... 1,1,0,1,0.5,0 = 3.5

which seems fair to me, what we need to do is find somewhere with a higher
score, so that all parties are happy, sound good?

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: new york

2001-05-27 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Philip Newton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Greg McCarroll wrote:
  Well back from sunny NY to good old London and what do i have
  waiting for me, thats right 200+ messages in London.pm! Hurrah!
 
 That was an awfully quick flight if it got you there and back in under eight
 hours (judging from the number of messages you say you had in your inbox
 afterwards) :)
 

i'd carry on this thread, but i've just been catching up with some
NB antics in www.tvgohome.com [1], 

http://www.tvgohome.com/2303-2001.html

Greg

[1] usual disclaimers apply, i.e. if you find london.pm occasionally
a bit offensive with the language don't go anywhere near this site.

-- 
Greg McCarroll  



Re: Decisions decisions

2001-05-25 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 02:51:44PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  No! Remind me of some of the reasons you wanted to get rid of
  the defender machine? I'm sure one of them was lack of space
  in Cantrell mansions.
 
 Ignore the heretic and his shouts of compare! swap! Embrace the
 siren call of the hardware.
 

Don't encourage the spamrice hoarder, you know he is already
too close to the edge ;-)

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

  Well, would *you* say no to Steven Seagal?
 
 I strongly suspect I'd say no to having his kids!
 

but he can also cook!

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Chris Devers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 At 11:23 AM 2001.05.24 +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 Apropos nothing, there was a guy who took over at Fusion in the early
 nineties who was a skinny, bookish, Jewishish type. And his name was 
 Steve Segal. Of course, as soon as we heard, he became Steven Seagal 
 pronounced in the dramatic movie trailer kind of way. I don't think it 
 did his career any harm at all.
 
 A couple weeks ago, we hired a girl named Julie Andrews. 
 
 Everyone keeps fighting the urge to ask her to sing for us. 
 

I seem to remember an extremely soft porn-ish film with julie andrews
at one stage, all i can remember is giant toy soldiers. I don't think
porn is even the right title it was more just weird.

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 09:21:08AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
 
  Now if he'd just stop blaming me for stuff like DWIM.pm... ;-)
  
  Well, I would if you'd just stop putting those evil thoughts in my head...
 
 The David made me do it!??
 

just wrap more tin foil around your head and everything will be ok 

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Piers Cawley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Piers asked:
  
   The sure thing
  
   Ooh. Not seen that one. Is it any good? And that's Anthony TopGun,
   Northern Exposure, ER Edwards to you.
  
  Any good, any good? It's only my all time favourite film of all time[1].
  
  Where frat movie meets romantic comedy, on a road trip. Quite a few good
  one liners. John Cusack being John Cusack very well. Zuniga being
  Zuniga, also very well.
 
 Oh, hang on. Has it got Tim Robbins in it as well? If so I *have* seen
 it and it's bloody good.
 

and i can't buy it, because its still on boring old VHS

- Greg 'DVD' McCarroll

p.s. at the risk of raising the heckles of BlackStar, does anyone
know the URL of the company based in the channel islands (or isle
of mann) that sell american dvds to the UK at the time they
are released in the US? 247 or something?

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Barbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I seem to remember an extremely soft porn-ish film with julie andrews
  at one stage, all i can remember is giant toy soldiers. I don't think
  porn is even the right title it was more just weird.
 
 You're thinking of the comedy S.O.B., where a film director decides his
 wife (played by Julie Andrews)should go topless to increase the film's
 rating and the director's flagging career. Oddly enough the film is directed
 by Andrew's husband at the time, Blake Edwards. Life imitating art or visa
 versa?
 

but where there giant toy soldiers in it? 

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Beer fest beckons

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 03:28:49PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
 
  So I get a call on my mobile in the middle of the beer fest from a
  potential collaborator telling me he can't send me the promised
  documentation due to the fact my inbox has exploded spectacularly
  and exceeded my meagre disk quota.  Given that I'm far too busy drinking
  ale to go and faff around wth the university computing service, I shall
  temporarily unsubscribe.
 
 THere is the option of cadging a shell account off of someone, with 
 no fascist disk quota ...
 

london.pm server seems like a good target

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Beer fest beckons

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 At 23:00 24/05/2001, David Cantrell wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 03:28:49PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
 
   So I get a call on my mobile in the middle of the beer fest from a
   potential collaborator telling me he can't send me the promised
   documentation due to the fact my inbox has exploded spectacularly
   and exceeded my meagre disk quota.  Given that I'm far too busy drinking
   ale to go and faff around wth the university computing service, I shall
   temporarily unsubscribe.
 
 THere is the option of cadging a shell account off of someone, with
 no fascist disk quota ...
 
 /me points out the irony of telling Lucy this onlist when she has 
 unsubscribed :)
 

i 'spose the same goes for my suggestion about getting a london.pm
account

but maybe, just maybe she will read this some day,

Greg

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



crazy golf

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll



What ever happened to the london.pm crazy golf game?


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2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll


actually, i failed, my CC to lucy screwed up due to complicated reasons regarding
BT (ISP) ADSL lines, so if someone could forward this it would be good

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* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 At 23:00 24/05/2001, David Cantrell wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 03:28:49PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
 
   So I get a call on my mobile in the middle of the beer fest from a
   potential collaborator telling me he can't send me the promised
   documentation due to the fact my inbox has exploded spectacularly
   and exceeded my meagre disk quota.  Given that I'm far too busy drinking
   ale to go and faff around wth the university computing service, I shall
   temporarily unsubscribe.
 
 THere is the option of cadging a shell account off of someone, with
 no fascist disk quota ...
 
 /me points out the irony of telling Lucy this onlist when she has 
 unsubscribed :)
 

i 'spose the same goes for my suggestion about getting a london.pm
account

but maybe, just maybe she will read this some day,

Greg

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