Re: l337

2001-05-30 Thread Martin Ling
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:22:43AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Apparently my reputation on the list as a paragon of reason and eloquence isn't as widespread as I had assumed. I threw caution to the wind my ommitting a this post is ironical smiley to the end of my post. Alas, I am

Towel Day - today, drinks 7pm.

2001-05-25 Thread Martin Ling
In tribute to Douglas Adams, today is Towel Day. http://towelday.org/ Still time to pick up yours and come to drink at the Captain's Cabin tonight: http://greatzarquon.tripod.com/ Martin

Re: [martin@pkl.net: BBC Online: Ask Jack Straw - *Today*, 16:45 BST]

2001-05-24 Thread Martin Ling
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 04:08:49PM +0100, will wrote: Ressurect the RIP flames, why not. Jack Straw will be answering your questions on 24 May, live at 1645 BST. Use the form below to send them so they can be logged and we will then know who you are and what your opinions you have. I'm

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:06:13PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: But they fixed references in 6.0! No, wait, they just introduced a load of Thread-* headers :-( Fucking morons. They just innovated threading! Tell me you're joking. If I was joking I wouldn't have ignore Thread-

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:25:36PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: Thanks, that's going in my sigfile. Your sigfile is a mighty repository of evil. Martin

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:11:23AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: I *loathe* Exchange. But they fixed references in 6.0! No, wait, they just introduced a load of Thread-* headers :-( Fucking morons. They just innovated threading! Tell me you're joking. Martin

Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Martin Ling
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:49:48PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 03:19:20PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: 1. For some unknown reason it doesn't let you use mail filters on IMAP messages, thereby rendering it completely unsuited to my needs The Mac version does

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-20 Thread Martin Ling
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 10:47:43AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: I suspect the current 'Lad's' magazines phase is a backlash against the crazy political correctness of the 80's .. hopefully the whole thing will settle down eventually. I don't particularly care that much about it. The women in

Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-18 Thread Martin Ling
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 09:04:15PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: If you're getting it for the piccies, I would suggest you don't bother. Whilst SMG gets a full page, the picture of Miss Hannigan is small and a reprint of one of the ones from the photo shoot she did for FHM last year. Give me a

Re: pc components

2001-05-17 Thread Martin Ling
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:01:11AM +0100, Chris Ball wrote: find / -name *your_base* -exec chown us:us {} \; If I had a penny for every variation on this sig I'd seen, I'd... er, well, I might have a cheap Mars bar. But still. Martin

Re: pc components

2001-05-17 Thread Martin Ling
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 02:41:06PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: find / -name *your_base* -exec chown us:us {} \; If I had a penny for every variation on this sig I'd seen, I'd... er, well, I might have a cheap Mars bar. But still. *mumble* xargs(1) *mumble* find / -user you

Re: pc components

2001-05-17 Thread Martin Ling
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:42:43PM -0500, will wrote: rm -f zig ? No! for GREAT_JUSTICE in $WAY_TO_DESTRUCTION; do mv zig $WHAT_YOU_DOING; done Martin

Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-17 Thread Martin Ling
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 07:36:12PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list... The interesting bits are as follows; At no. 11, Sarah Michelle Geller At no. 10, Alyson Hannigan!!! Nuff said :-) Oh, you bastards. You utter, utter,

Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 10:10:23AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: a delightfully Heath-Robinson mechanical whatsit which will clip on to the inside of your letter box, and will reject spam with GREAT VENGEANCE and FURY. But you're missing a critical feature. If the thoughtful Spam M[oi]ngers

Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:33:07AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 10:10:23AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: we are considering funding the development of a procmail-a-like for snail-mail. I want a procphone. Now that's reasonably feasible. Tap the incoming audio

Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:04:24PM +0100, James Powell wrote: Heh, don't forget to have a RBL-like list of source telephone numbers. Definitely. A whitelist too, of course. And if it's withheld, answer with a terse message and disconnect. No; many people withhold automatically, it a

Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:22:35PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: Definitely. A whitelist too, of course. Now *this* is why I want programmable mobile phones. The particularly (interesting|annoying) bit is that recent phones have hardware capabilities sufficent for a procphone - same code as

Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:30:59PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: The particularly (interesting|annoying) bit is that recent phones have hardware capabilities sufficent for a procphone - same code as does the voice dialling. Ho hmm... Nokia appealing to Linux coders to help with their new

Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:38:16PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: Now *this* is why I want programmable mobile phones. nokia 9210 Bleh, wearable and a GSM card. Martin

Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:48:26PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: No; many people withhold automatically, it a legitimate privacy concern. ??? ... its simple. If they choose to withhold their number I choose to reject their call. Okay, whatever, I don't, it's an *option*. Martin

Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 05:43:52PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: nokia 9210 Which is still, AFAIK, unobtainium. I know someone who knows someone who has a test model - I'll prod on programmability. Martin

Re: Perl training

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:00:54PM +0100, Matthew Jones wrote: What's in the box? ... NOTHING! STPPPIDD! Youre so STUUUPPIID! Martin

Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:57:59AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: I appoint Greg as my Culture Adviser and as head of the church. Any volunteers for my other minions? Even if you don't want a cabinet post, please feel free to volunteer as a Henchman. You'll get 25 days holiday a year, a

Re: Perl training

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:27:20PM +0100, Chris Ball wrote: OoOoOoh, Red Snapper! Very tasty! /obscure_quoting Heh. It's *so* good, and has even managed to remain obscure. This is probably because you can't get it anywhere any more, of course... Martin

Re: Perl training

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:50:27PM +0100, duncan wrote: its rumoured to be released on dvd at the end of the year. one of my favorite films ever... badgers? we dont need no stinking badgers! *Show Me This Rumour* I have still not seen the bits cut out of the Conan the Librarian scene.

Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:56:03PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: So how, pray, do I opt out of the international oil companies' cartel? With a solar panel and some batteries. Martin

Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:56:03PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: So how, pray, do I opt out of the international oil companies' cartel? Adapt that gas-guzzling beast of yours to run on rape seed oil. Martin

Re: BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:30:42PM +0100, Chris Ball wrote: That's genius! I know, I'll call it.. Charismatic Leadership Theory. Wait. Someone already did, rather a long time ago now.. :) Don't start me on all the stating-the-obviousness in psychology. Martin

Re: JAMES DUNCAN

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:45:05PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Or what happens fairly frequently over here: companies which have http://www.company.de/ but their email address is company@$NATIONALISP or, worse, company@$FREE_EMAIL_SERVICE. Looks pretty stupid to me. There's a (now

Re: JAMES DUNCAN

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:54:26PM +0200, Niklas Nordebo wrote: Isn't that more of a Microsoft Driving License? To be fair to it - I would have expected so, but a quick inspection seems to show it is entirely generic. Utterly basic too, yes, but one less class of stupid question would always

Re: JAMES DUNCAN

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 06:02:41PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: There's a (now unsurprisingly defunct) computer shop just up the road from me with a www.name-censored.freeserve.co.uk address - up in three-inch letterrs on a huge full-length sign. Classic. :) Especially since some free

Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:14:21PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: What do you mean `naked'? As in one of those freaky hairless ones? Or are you in the habit of dressing your cats up in little outfits? Do lots of people dress their cats up? Is there a GAP for cats? Complete with irritatingly

Re: see attachment

2001-05-13 Thread Martin Ling
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 12:42:56AM +0100, Chris Ball wrote: Totally. I mean, if they can make Antitrust.. :) :still laughs at: I've fixed our bottleneck! What, you realised that you've been writing Java?.. Hmm. Now, am I really sad enough to sit down and do a complete bastardisation...?

Re: see attachment

2001-05-13 Thread Martin Ling
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 12:37:43AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 08:06:48PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: Snow Crash, essentially. I was thinking recently about how well it would work as a film. You're obviously not the only one: http://www.corona.bc.ca/films

Re: BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-13 Thread Martin Ling
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 05:42:00PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 05:35:24PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: Do the Lib Dems think along these lines? No-one knows cos the LDs have never seemed to have any policies ever. Actually, I like the idea of parties which don't

Re: BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-13 Thread Martin Ling
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 06:38:45PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: Democracy is overrated. I think a meritocracy is needed. Perhaps measured by Perl competence. It's a fairly well-arguable stance that *any* form of meritocracy is a reasonable system - certainly an improvement on, for example, a

Re: BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-13 Thread Martin Ling
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 06:44:07PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: Hey, what if we had a system where we just elected a *candidate* we liked, like one for each local area or something? Pretty crazy, huh? It'll never work remember the people outside the M25 get a vote as well, and we don't

Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Martin Ling
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 09:20:59AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: London.pm - the Movie! What a great idea! As I was saying to someone only yesterday, movies made by a bunch of crazy geeks would be an absolute riot. Go for it. Martin

Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Martin Ling
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:08:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: Somehow I see b-movie horror mixed with independence day style computer geek saves the world. ObRant (sigh, becoming a habit again): 'Oh, hey! Like, I saw that Antitrust movie! I remember you're one of those Linux guys, so you

Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Martin Ling
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:38:08PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:08:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: Aha - some dark evil force creates a website (BIG FONTS) that attracts young people from the world and has lots of flashy stuff on it (ok it would be flash, but

Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Martin Ling
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 08:01:26PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: Evil Dead - the Language of Darkness. Or some kind of bizzaro martial arts fest pitching the Heretics against the True London.pm'ers (tm)... And has someone stolen our Illustrious Leader's Secret Manual? Y'know, if we

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Martin Ling
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:32:15AM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote: ObRant: computers and OSes in their current state are not consumer devices. ObRantContinuation: It goes a little further than that. Cars are now consumer devices; but if you were deploying a fleet of new company vans, you

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Martin Ling
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:05:21PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: The average bottom rung mechanic knows as much about cars as the average bottom rung tech support guy knows about computers. Okay. I know very little of the vehicle maintenance industry, so it was a poor choice of analogy,

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Martin Ling
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:22:04PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Deja vu, I had this thread elsewhere recently (although it was 'things behind'...) Here I have nowt, what with it being a laptop and all. At home, er... more monitors?

Re: 101 uses for an inflatable Tux

2001-05-11 Thread Martin Ling
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:18:14PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Barbie wrote: Currently just Tux, who thankfully doesn't get used as Nerf gun target practice since leaving tw2. Heh. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~siona/captions/january.html Suggestions

Re: Buffy musings ...

2001-05-09 Thread Martin Ling
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 09:21:41AM +0100, Dean wrote: I'll see what they cost. It might be prohibitively expensive to get anyone who's cute. Get Willow then ;) It's big, slippery, and is frequently sighted in rivers and IRC. And it's comin right atcha... Martin

Re: Buffy musings ...

2001-05-09 Thread Martin Ling
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 09:25:23AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: and while i'm on a roll, how about the fact that TV license vans are actually mind control devices sent by the government which is in fact controlled by scientologists who are using the vans to reduce peoples IQ to the point

Re: Native Code Experts

2001-05-04 Thread Martin Ling
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 05:30:02PM +0100, Robert Price wrote: Maybe we should send him the London pm review copy of the new Learning Perl when it arrives. I'm sure he'll appreciate this goodwill jesture, especially if a certain few take the trouble to autograph it for him. And our masterful

Re: Native Code Experts

2001-05-04 Thread Martin Ling
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 05:33:16PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Fri, May 04, 2001 at 05:29:10PM +0100, Martin Ling typed: And our masterful social engineering strategy for getting his address is...? Tell him he's gay if he doesn't admit his address. ...say YOUR GAY

Re: Stuffed camel

2001-05-02 Thread Martin Ling
As a side note, when we do get it together, would it be alright to come along as an ordinary paying zoo entrant? Or does being a camelite confer extraordinary priviliges within the confines of the zoo? Yes, we get to ride the camel and take it to conferences! ... m/conventions/ ?

Re: Good Accountants

2001-04-27 Thread Martin Ling
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 10:11:40AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Ho ho, you should have heard the stick that support got from that little prank. Have you been sent a green CD, sir? We'd better send you an orange one to recover your system... It went on for *weeks*. I take it this

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Martin Ling
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:55:58PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: Dean (Cordelia fan) heresy is all very well and good but surely there are limits? Hmm. I know someone who quite fancies Anya. Martin $willow++;

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Martin Ling
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:54:46PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: ah, the curse of the TNG generation. I imagine there'll be a real dearth of wesleys for the next 10 to 20 years. Not to mention Buffys. And probably some more, but I'm really rather out of touch with any $TV ne 'Buffy'...

Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-14 Thread Martin Ling
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:29:13AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: nah you didn't say something weird like Willow (or Riley) is the sexiest in BtVS. But but... Martin

Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-14 Thread Martin Ling
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:57:38AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ooh .. that reminds me .. the Census man has just dropped a form in .. I didn't reallise it was this year .. excellent .. now dont forget .. your religion is 'Jedi' ok ? putting

Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-14 Thread Martin Ling
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:42:21AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:04:15AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: ooh .. that reminds me .. the Census man has just dropped a form in .. I didn't reallise it was this year .. excellent .. now dont forget .. your religion is

Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-05 Thread Martin Ling
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 06:19:46PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Dean wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:52:32PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: Last time I went to Lonix, it was full of w4r3z d00dz. :( The kind of people who only used linux because they

Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-05 Thread Martin Ling
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 02:54:25PM +0100, wrote: All this said, there were an obscene number of people at Lonix last night, who once again I have no idea about other than that they were being given advice by the people I steer clear of for asking long, slow and stupid questions. Grr. I

Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-04 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 10:28:24PM +0100, Dean S Wilson wrote: Stick with drunks, it'll save time. And the meetings on Thursday so you announced yourself just in time! ;) I'm not sure I'll be able to make it though - I've got things to prepare for this talk at GLLUG on Saturday. Martin

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 11:05:17PM -0400, Alex Page wrote: But where would we find a camping ground with a fast net connection and wireless LAN connections? The bit of park that the Laurie bros' consume nodes cover? Martin

Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-04 Thread Martin Ling
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:14:28AM +0100, Dean wrote: I'm not sure I'll be able to make it though - I've got things to prepare for this talk at GLLUG on Saturday. Which is on a subject a lot of people on the list are interested in, wireless networking and the Consume.net project so you

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Martin Ling
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:12:56PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: Which reminds me of the time someone shorted out a mains socket with a paper clip "to see what happened". Or the case of taking the wire from inside a scalextric hand controller, attaching on end to a sucker, affixing that to

Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-04 Thread Martin Ling
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:52:32PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Dean wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 11:14:48AM +0100, Dean wrote: Lonix is normally pub, pub, food, pub maybe club. It covers as much Linux as the London PM social nights do Perl ;) Last time I

sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread Martin Ling
Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time and no-one told me? Martin

Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:23:15PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time and no-one told me? YOu havent been around here very long have you :) Indeed, that was just my observation on a few posts' worth. Who *knows* what I