Re: l337

2001-05-30 Thread Martin Ling

On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:22:43AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
 
  Apparently my reputation on the list as a paragon of reason and
  eloquence isn't as widespread as I had assumed. I threw caution to the
  wind my ommitting a this post is ironical smiley to the end of my
  post. Alas, I am undone.
 
 Isn't it easier to admit I left my terminal unlocked?

aH bUt h33 d1d n0t!!! 3y3 0wn3d 4ll h15 b0x0rz 4nd sp4mm0rzd
j00r 45535! bw4h4h4h4h4h4h4h4!111!!!1132j000 phr


Martin

with no such reputation whatsoever.



Towel Day - today, drinks 7pm.

2001-05-25 Thread Martin Ling

In tribute to Douglas Adams, today is Towel Day.

http://towelday.org/

Still time to pick up yours and come to drink at the Captain's Cabin
tonight:

http://greatzarquon.tripod.com/


Martin



Re: [martin@pkl.net: BBC Online: Ask Jack Straw - *Today*, 16:45 BST]

2001-05-24 Thread Martin Ling

On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 04:08:49PM +0100, will wrote:
 
  Ressurect the RIP flames, why not.
 
 Jack Straw will be answering your questions on 24 May, live at 1645 BST.
 Use the form below to send them so they can be logged and we will then know
 who you are and what your opinions you have.

I'm not sure on which level this is most ironic.


Martin



Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-23 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:06:13PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
 
   But they fixed references in 6.0! No, wait, they just introduced a
   load of Thread-* headers :-( Fucking morons.
  
  They just innovated threading!
  
  Tell me you're joking.
 
 If I was joking I wouldn't have ignore Thread- in my .muttrc :-(
 
 Thread-Topic: Subject line goes here.
 Thread-Index: AcDZqhhI7VsxDWt9TIyjVP5af1xC5wAANWVg  

I've just spent five minutes trying to respond to this without actually
screaming. Sorry, but I can't.


Martin



Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 05:25:36PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 
 Thanks, that's going in my sigfile.

Your sigfile is a mighty repository of evil.


Martin



Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-22 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:11:23AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
 
 I *loathe* Exchange.
 
 But they fixed references in 6.0! No, wait, they just introduced a
 load of Thread-* headers :-( Fucking morons.

They just innovated threading!

Tell me you're joking.


Martin



Re: Long shot

2001-05-21 Thread Martin Ling

On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:49:48PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
 
 On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 03:19:20PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
  1. For some unknown reason it doesn't let you use mail filters on IMAP
  messages, thereby rendering it completely unsuited to my needs
 
 The Mac version does :)

...but lacks the ability to filter POP messages by headers before
downloading. Why the hell can't they get their act together on the same
bloody bit of software? And they accuse *us* of forking.


Martin



Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-20 Thread Martin Ling

On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 10:47:43AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 
 I suspect the current 'Lad's' magazines phase is a backlash against the
 crazy political correctness of the 80's .. hopefully the whole thing will
 settle down eventually. I don't particularly care that much about it. The
 women in things like FHM are most certainly in there by choice and doing
 rather nicely from the whole thing thankyou. They are of course brainless
 bimbettes but thats another matter. I do find it rather objectionable is
 having them learing off the counter of every petrol station and
 newsagent you go to, when they should be on a nice high shelf somewhere. 

I seem to recall some comic giving a rant to the effect of Used to be
just the magazines on the top shelf, everyone knew where they were,
everyone knew what they were for. Then these FHM, Loaded, etc though -
huh?  What are they, for blokes who aren't sure if they want to
masturbate?

Most of the readership I'm aware of don't recall that much of the
eighties anyway...


Martin



Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-18 Thread Martin Ling

On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 09:04:15PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
 
 If you're getting it for the piccies, I would suggest you don't bother.
 Whilst SMG gets a full page, the picture of Miss Hannigan is small and a
 reprint of one of the ones from the photo shoot she did for FHM last year.

Give me a break. It's the result of a wager from last year's list.

I already *have* a perfectly good Willow poster.


Martin



Re: pc components

2001-05-17 Thread Martin Ling

On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:01:11AM +0100, Chris Ball wrote:
 
 find / -name *your_base* -exec chown us:us {} \;

If I had a penny for every variation on this sig I'd seen, I'd... er,
well, I might have a cheap Mars bar. But still.


Martin



Re: pc components

2001-05-17 Thread Martin Ling

On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 02:41:06PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
 
   find / -name *your_base* -exec chown us:us {} \;
  
  If I had a penny for every variation on this sig I'd seen, I'd... er,
  well, I might have a cheap Mars bar. But still.
 
 *mumble* xargs(1) *mumble*

find / -user you -name base -print | xargs chown us:us

is one of the more popular ones.

I haven't seen a really good one for SOMEBODY SET UP US THE BOMB yet.

apt-get install the-bomb doesn't qualify.


Martin



Re: pc components

2001-05-17 Thread Martin Ling

On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:42:43PM -0500, will wrote:
 
 rm -f zig
 
 ?

No!

for GREAT_JUSTICE in $WAY_TO_DESTRUCTION; do mv zig $WHAT_YOU_DOING; done


Martin



Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

2001-05-17 Thread Martin Ling

On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 07:36:12PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
 
 Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list...
 
 The interesting bits are as follows;
 
 At no. 11, Sarah Michelle Geller
 
 At no. 10, Alyson Hannigan!!!
 
 Nuff said :-)

Oh, you bastards. You utter, utter, utter bastards.

I'm going to have to actually *buy*, and furthermore be seen non-dead
with, a copy of FHM now. London PM, you are sick, twisted and evil
people.


Martin



Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 10:10:23AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 
 a delightfully Heath-Robinson mechanical whatsit which will clip on to
 the inside of your letter box, and will reject spam with GREAT VENGEANCE
 and FURY.

But you're missing a critical feature. If the thoughtful Spam M[oi]ngers
are kind enough to include a freepost return envelope, the machine
should carefully tear up all the accompanying glossies and return them
in it at their expense.

For great justice...


Martin



Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:33:07AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 
 On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 10:10:23AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
  we are considering funding the development of a procmail-a-like for
  snail-mail.
 
 I want a procphone.

Now that's reasonably feasible. Tap the incoming audio signal and feed
it to Viavoice + Perl. Have the phone be automatically answered with a
recording of your own voice saying 'Hello?'. Feed the conversation out
to speakers for your interception and amusement - if you want to take
the call, just pick up - otherwise, the script will listen for key
phrases in the incoming response ('double glazing', 'market research',
etc, etc...) and immediately on recieving one deliver a pre-recorded
appropriate rant before hanging up. With a little more advancement, it
could be got to respond to some simple fore-spam ('Can I speak to ...' /
'speaking', etc).

Hmm. I like it, wonder if the software's up to it though.


Martin



Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:04:24PM +0100, James Powell wrote:
 
 Heh, don't forget to have a RBL-like list of source telephone numbers.

Definitely. A whitelist too, of course.

 And if it's withheld, answer with a terse message and disconnect.

No; many people withhold automatically, it a legitimate privacy concern. 

 My girlfriend got her first SMS spam the other week... all it said
 was call this number 2320340 324 CompName EX7 TL7 (or similar).

Odd. Most of the ones I've seen are filthy.


Martin



Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:22:35PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 
  Definitely. A whitelist too, of course.
 
 Now *this* is why I want programmable mobile phones.

The particularly (interesting|annoying) bit is that recent phones have
hardware capabilities sufficent for a procphone - same code as does the
voice dialling.

Ho hum. If I wasn't trying to get some work done, I'd grab sphinx and
write some code.


Martin



Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:30:59PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
 
 The particularly (interesting|annoying) bit is that recent phones have
 hardware capabilities sufficent for a procphone - same code as does the
 voice dialling.

Ho hmm... Nokia appealing to Linux coders to help with their new
set-top boxes, saying We are convinced that openness is the way
forward. So, you'll be letting us at the firmware for this nice little
phone then...


Martin



Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:38:16PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
  Now *this* is why I want programmable mobile phones.
 
 nokia 9210

Bleh, wearable and a GSM card.


Martin



Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:48:26PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 
  No; many people withhold automatically, it a legitimate privacy concern. 
 
 ??? ... its simple. If they choose to withhold their number I choose to
 reject their call.

Okay, whatever, I don't, it's an *option*.



Martin



Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 05:43:52PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 
  nokia 9210
 
 Which is still, AFAIK, unobtainium.

I know someone who knows someone who has a test model - I'll prod on
programmability.


Martin



Re: Perl training

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:00:54PM +0100, Matthew Jones wrote:
 
 What's in the box?

...

NOTHING!

STPPPIDD!

Youre so STUUUPPIID!


Martin



Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:57:59AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 
 I appoint Greg as my Culture Adviser and as head of the church.  Any
 volunteers for my other minions?  Even if you don't want a cabinet
 post, please feel free to volunteer as a Henchman.  You'll get 25 days
 holiday a year, a nice uniform and a free Hench.

Appears I'm out of a job too from the end of the month, so count me in.

The mighty army of unemployed Perlers takes over the world...


Martin



Re: Perl training

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:27:20PM +0100, Chris Ball wrote:
 
 OoOoOoh, Red Snapper! Very tasty!
 
 /obscure_quoting

Heh. It's *so* good, and has even managed to remain obscure. This is
probably because you can't get it anywhere any more, of course...


Martin



Re: Perl training

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:50:27PM +0100, duncan wrote:
 
 its rumoured to be released on dvd at the end of the year.  one of my 
 favorite films ever... badgers?  we dont need no stinking badgers!

*Show Me This Rumour*

I have still not seen the bits cut out of the Conan the Librarian scene.


Martin



Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:56:03PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 
 So how, pray, do I opt out of the international oil companies' cartel?

With a solar panel and some batteries.


Martin



Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:56:03PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 
 So how, pray, do I opt out of the international oil companies' cartel?

Adapt that gas-guzzling beast of yours to run on rape seed oil.


Martin



Re: BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:30:42PM +0100, Chris Ball wrote:
 
 That's genius! I know, I'll call it.. Charismatic Leadership Theory.
 
 Wait. Someone already did, rather a long time ago now.. :)

Don't start me on all the stating-the-obviousness in psychology.


Martin



Re: JAMES DUNCAN

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:45:05PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
 
 Or what happens fairly frequently over here: companies which have
 http://www.company.de/ but their email address is company@$NATIONALISP or,
 worse, company@$FREE_EMAIL_SERVICE. Looks pretty stupid to me.

There's a (now unsurprisingly defunct) computer shop just up the road
from me with a www.name-censored.freeserve.co.uk address - up in
three-inch letterrs on a huge full-length sign. Classic. 

An entire amusing history about the place and the previous dodgy outfit
in the same block of units, but another time...


Martin



Re: JAMES DUNCAN

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:54:26PM +0200, Niklas Nordebo wrote:
 
 Isn't that more of a Microsoft Driving License?

To be fair to it - I would have expected so, but a quick inspection
seems to show it is entirely generic. Utterly basic too, yes, but one
less class of stupid question would always be nice.


Martin



Re: JAMES DUNCAN

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 06:02:41PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
 
  There's a (now unsurprisingly defunct) computer shop just up the road
  from me with a www.name-censored.freeserve.co.uk address - up in
  three-inch letterrs on a huge full-length sign. Classic. 
 
 :) Especially since some free services undoubtedly have clauses forbidding
 you from using the email address/web space for commercial gain.

Mmm, should have thought of that.

Actually, the place is being done up by new tenants now so I ought to
cop a pic off the digicam on the way home while I still have a chance.


Martin



Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:14:21PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 What do you mean `naked'? As in one of those freaky hairless ones? Or
 are you in the habit of dressing your cats up in little outfits? Do lots
 of people dress their cats up? Is there a GAP for cats? Complete with
 irritatingly happy cats dancing to 70s and 80s pop music?

I'm not sure. Hang on, I'll ask a cat...

http://pkl.net/~martin/catpaw.jpg

I'll take that as a no.


Martin



Re: see attachment

2001-05-13 Thread Martin Ling

On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 12:42:56AM +0100, Chris Ball wrote:
 
 Totally. I mean, if they can make Antitrust.. :)
 
 :still laughs at: I've fixed our bottleneck! What, you realised that you've
 been writing Java?..

Hmm. Now, am I really sad enough to sit down and do a complete
bastardisation...?

Er...

Um...


No.


...but if y'all help... :-)


Martin



Re: see attachment

2001-05-13 Thread Martin Ling

On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 12:37:43AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 
 On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 08:06:48PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
   Snow Crash, essentially.
  
  I was thinking recently about how well it would work as a film.
 
 You're obviously not the only one:
 http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/snowcrash.html

Ooh, I did see that page once, but before the last update  picture.

While we're at it,

http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/neuromancer.html

seems equally dud.


Martin



Re: BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-13 Thread Martin Ling

On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 05:42:00PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 
 On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 05:35:24PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
  Do the Lib Dems think along these lines?  No-one knows cos the LDs have
  never seemed to have any policies ever.
 
 Actually, I like the idea of parties which don't have any policies. They're
 supposed to represent what we tell them to support, remember, not the other
 way around.

Hey, what if we had a system where we just elected a *candidate* we
liked, like one for each local area or something? Pretty crazy, huh?

Just as a system of elected representatives removes a level of public
control from a democracy, so the addition of party structures still
further destroys the individual's voice. It's a final and short step to
a single party and all the Orwell you can eat. But, since the two
parties (Yes.) are exactly the same now, it's already happened anyway.
I am Jack's total lack of surprise.


Martin



Re: BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-13 Thread Martin Ling

On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 06:38:45PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 
 Democracy is overrated. I think a meritocracy is needed. Perhaps measured by
 Perl competence.

It's a fairly well-arguable stance that *any* form of meritocracy is a
reasonable system - certainly an improvement on, for example, a
hereditary (mon|poly)archy. We have one already, of course - it just
happens to be based around PR. Programming prowess I'd probably agree
with you on as a more appropriately directioned metric.

Of course, I still call for a good game of Azad. In the US, the PR games
have already long since made way for Nomic, after all.


Martin



Re: BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-13 Thread Martin Ling

On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 06:44:07PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
  Hey, what if we had a system where we just elected a *candidate* we
  liked, like one for each local area or something? Pretty crazy, huh?
 
 It'll never work remember the people outside the M25 get a vote as well,
 and we don't want to have to suffer as a result of their irrelevant whims.

I said ages ago that London ought to declare independence. It's a
similarly sized population to Scotland, after all. In fact, this very
question got brought up beautifully prior to the mayoral elections; I
recall some breakfast news interviewer saying But... but Scotland has a
very distinct cultural identity, and London's just a grey blob, in a
somewhat more verbose manner, and being told where to shove it.


Martin



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Martin Ling

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 09:20:59AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 London.pm - the Movie! What a great idea!

As I was saying to someone only yesterday, movies made by a bunch of
crazy geeks would be an absolute riot. Go for it.


Martin



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Martin Ling

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:08:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 Somehow I see b-movie horror mixed with independence day style
 computer geek saves the world.

ObRant (sigh, becoming a habit again):

'Oh, hey! Like, I saw that Antitrust movie! I remember you're one of
those Linux guys, so you must totally love this film because it's all
about the geeks and er, stuff. So I think maybe I get this whole open
source thing a bit better now because I heard the word in a movie! But
like, you guys need to get over it.  It's not like in the movie, they're
not killing programmers or anything.  Jeez, you guys are crazy, you
really thought that? You need to get out more. Anyway, can you help me
fix my computer sometime? I've got install this new version of Office so
I can read my mail, but I think I have to subscribe now or something and
the machine keeps crashing I think it got hacked or summat or I got a
virus... anyway, see ya'


Martin



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Martin Ling

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:38:08PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 
 On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:08:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  Aha - some dark evil force creates a website (BIG FONTS) that attracts young
  people from the world and has lots of flashy stuff on it (ok it would be
  flash, but this is a movie, so its just going to be BIG FONTS AND SWIRLING
  STUFF) that is actual fact brainwashing the teenagers to worship the website 
 
 Snow Crash, essentially.

I was thinking recently about how well it would work as a film. The
first three pages, up to the line about pizza, cut slightly and narrated
in a deadpan style against some suitably badass footage would make an
absolutely superb start to a movie.


Martin



Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Martin Ling

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 08:01:26PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 
 Evil Dead - the Language of Darkness.
 
  Or some kind of bizzaro martial arts fest pitching the Heretics
  against the True London.pm'ers (tm)...
 
 And has someone stolen our Illustrious Leader's Secret Manual?

Y'know, if we just want to do cr0bar-style bastardisations [0], that's
quite another (easier) matter entirely...


Martin

[0] http://www.detonate.net/ - Matrix was the original and best, but the
others have some good bits.



Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Martin Ling

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:32:15AM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
 
 ObRant: computers and OSes in their current state are not consumer devices.

ObRantContinuation:

It goes a little further than that. Cars are now consumer devices; but
if you were deploying a fleet of new company vans, you wouldn't expect
the random office guy who'd read a dummies book to maintain them - you'd
hire a mechanic.


Martin



Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Martin Ling

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:05:21PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
 
 The average bottom rung mechanic knows as much about cars as the average 
 bottom rung tech support guy knows about computers.

Okay. I know very little of the vehicle maintenance industry, so it was
a poor choice of analogy, but I hold to the rough point - there are too
many organisations (notably schools, as well as companies) pushing
excessive technical responsibilities onto unqualified and inexperienced
staff.  It's not fair on (a) the staff, (b) the rest of the organisation
(c) others affected through poor security (private/personal information
leakage, network abuse...)

...and arguably

(d) unemployed BOFHs.


Martin



Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Martin Ling

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:22:04PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
 
 How many things do you have on top of your monitor?

Deja vu, I had this thread elsewhere recently (although it was 'things
behind'...)

Here I have nowt, what with it being a laptop and all. At home, er...
more monitors?

http://pkl.net/~martin/room-bredroll.jpg

Old picture. And, er, not me in it. The room's mostly still there
though.


Martin



Re: 101 uses for an inflatable Tux

2001-05-11 Thread Martin Ling

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:18:14PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
 
 
 On Fri, 11 May 2001, Barbie wrote:
 
  Currently just Tux, who thankfully doesn't get used as Nerf gun target
  practice since leaving tw2.
 
 Heh.  http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~siona/captions/january.html

Suggestions also welcome for all of these:

http://pkl.net/~martin/lonix-2001-05-10/


Martin



Re: Buffy musings ...

2001-05-09 Thread Martin Ling

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 09:21:41AM +0100, Dean wrote:
 
  I'll see what they cost.  It might be prohibitively expensive to get
  anyone who's cute.
 
 Get Willow then ;)

It's big, slippery, and is frequently sighted in rivers and IRC. And
it's comin right atcha...


Martin



Re: Buffy musings ...

2001-05-09 Thread Martin Ling

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 09:25:23AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 and while i'm on a roll, how about the fact that TV license vans
 are actually mind control devices sent by the government which is
 in fact controlled by scientologists who are using the vans to
 reduce peoples IQ to the point they would believe any of the crap
 scientology talks about

Ah, no. The *real* conspiracy is Blue Peter badges. Systematic plan to
tag and track dangero^Wpromising youths!


Martin



Re: Native Code Experts

2001-05-04 Thread Martin Ling

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 05:30:02PM +0100, Robert Price wrote:
 
 Maybe we should send him the London pm review copy of the new Learning Perl
 when it arrives. I'm sure he'll appreciate this goodwill jesture,
 especially if a certain few take the trouble to autograph it for him.

And our masterful social engineering strategy for getting his address
is...?


Martin



Re: Native Code Experts

2001-05-04 Thread Martin Ling

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 05:33:16PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
 
 On or about Fri, May 04, 2001 at 05:29:10PM +0100, Martin Ling typed:
 
 And our masterful social engineering strategy for getting his address
 is...?
 
 Tell him he's gay if he doesn't admit his address.

...say YOUR GAY and see if anyone nearby twigs...


Martin

-- 
-[ Martin J. Ling ]-[ http://www.nodezero.org.uk ]-



Re: Stuffed camel

2001-05-02 Thread Martin Ling

  
  As a side note, when we do get it together, would it be alright to come
  along as an ordinary paying zoo entrant?  Or does being a camelite
  confer extraordinary priviliges within the confines of the zoo?
 
 Yes, we get to ride the camel and take it to conferences!  

... m/conventions/ ?

You all know where I'm going with this :-)


Martin



Re: Good Accountants

2001-04-27 Thread Martin Ling

On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 10:11:40AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
 
 Ho ho, you should have heard the stick that support got from that little
 prank.  Have you been sent a green CD, sir?  We'd better send you an
 orange one to recover your system...  It went on for *weeks*.

I take it this pre-dated Matrix, or the red/blue pill jokes would have
dragged it on for a few more... 


Martin



Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Martin Ling

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:55:58PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote:
 
  Dean (Cordelia fan)
 
 heresy is all very well and good but surely there are limits?

Hmm. I know someone who quite fancies Anya.


Martin

$willow++;



Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Martin Ling

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:54:46PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote:
 
 ah, the curse of the TNG generation. I imagine there'll be a real dearth
 of wesleys for the next 10 to 20 years.

Not to mention Buffys. And probably some more, but I'm really rather out
of touch with any $TV ne 'Buffy'...


Martin



Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:29:13AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 nah you didn't say something weird like Willow (or Riley) is the
 sexiest in BtVS.

But but...


Martin



Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:57:38AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
 
 Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   ooh .. that reminds me .. the Census man has just dropped a form in .. I
   didn't reallise it was this year .. excellent .. now dont forget .. your
   religion is 'Jedi' ok ?
  
  putting jedi is a bad idea
  
  its you letting the shoreditch lot win
 
 Viral marketing doesn't work. Tell all your friends.

*looks down at t-shirt*

Cool, it mutates :-)


Martin



Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:42:21AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 
 On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:04:15AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
  ooh .. that reminds me .. the Census man has just dropped a form in .. I
  didn't reallise it was this year .. excellent .. now dont forget .. your
  religion is 'Jedi' ok ?
 
 "Discordian". No, seriously. (Fnord)

Well, yes. I will just be slightly miffed when only 9,999 people put
'Jedi'...

...and they will be *very* miffed. Hail Eris!


Martin



Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-05 Thread Martin Ling

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 06:19:46PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
 
 On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Dean wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:52:32PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
   Last time I went to Lonix, it was full of w4r3z d00dz. :( The kind of
   people who only used linux because they didn't have to pay for it.
  How long ago was this? I'm worried now in case i was there and looked like
  a w4r3z d00dz ;)
 
 A while back. It was the time with the wearable computers demo.

Neill's, I take it, rather than one of my impromptu borgings? I've no
idea who most of those people were. Some kind of gargoyle groupie effect
g... I heard some dreadful stories about the wearables thing at ICA
some time back too. 

All this said, there were an obscene number of people at Lonix last
night, who once again I have no idea about other than that they were
being given advice by the people I steer clear of for asking long, slow
and stupid questions.

Grr. I don't *want* to turn into an elitist wanker, it's just that I'd
like all these morons to fuck off :-P


Martin



Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-05 Thread Martin Ling

On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 02:54:25PM +0100, wrote:
 
 All this said, there were an obscene number of people at Lonix last
 night, who once again I have no idea about other than that they were
 being given advice by the people I steer clear of for asking long, slow
 and stupid questions.
 
 Grr. I don't *want* to turn into an elitist wanker, it's just that I'd
 like all these morons to fuck off :-P

Blimey, I need to cool down. Sorry.


Martin



Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-04 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 10:28:24PM +0100, Dean S Wilson wrote:
 
 Stick with drunks, it'll save time. And the meetings on Thursday so
 you announced yourself just in time! ;)

I'm not sure I'll be able to make it though - I've got things to prepare
for this talk at GLLUG on Saturday.


Martin



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 11:05:17PM -0400, Alex Page wrote:
 
 But where would we find a camping ground with a fast net connection
 and wireless LAN connections?

The bit of park that the Laurie bros' consume nodes cover?


Martin



Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-04 Thread Martin Ling

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:14:28AM +0100, Dean wrote:
 
  I'm not sure I'll be able to make it though - I've got things to prepare
  for this talk at GLLUG on Saturday.
 
 Which is on a subject a lot of people on the list are interested in,
 wireless networking and the Consume.net project so you might get to meet
 some of this lot anyway :)

Grrrew...okay, I'll come, but expect me to be sitting there with two
laptops hacking somewhat manically. Far, far too many things to do this
week.


Martin



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Martin Ling

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:12:56PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
  
  Which reminds me of the time someone shorted out a mains socket with a 
  paper clip "to see what happened".
 
 Or the case of taking the wire from inside a scalextric hand controller,
 attaching on end to a sucker, affixing that to one side of a door frame,
 stretching across to make a trip wire and being short of something to anchor
 it with the other side, wrapping the remaining wire around the pins of a mains
 plug and pluging it in!
 
 Apparantly I was discovered on the other side of the room imbeded in a
 wardrobe. :-)

I received a 240V shock whilst still in the womb. Various people have
made the obvious comic-book connections about my affinity for all things
electronic


Martin



Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-04 Thread Martin Ling

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:52:32PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
 
 On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Dean wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 11:14:48AM +0100, Dean wrote:
  Lonix is normally pub, pub, food, pub maybe club. It covers as much Linux
  as the London PM social nights do Perl ;)
 
 Last time I went to Lonix, it was full of w4r3z d00dz. :( The kind of
 people who only used linux because they didn't have to pay for it.

When was that? We periodically get skiddies from L2600, who I don't
think even use it, let alone have reasons other than that it's m4d l33t.


Martin



sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread Martin Ling

Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time
and no-one told me?


Martin



Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:23:15PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 
  Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time
  and no-one told me?
 
 YOu havent been around here very long have you :)

Indeed, that was just my observation on a few posts' worth. Who *knows*
what I might conclude about a whole day's traffic..


Martin