Re: YAPC::Europe: flights, hotels and minigolf.

2001-06-17 Thread Tony Bowden

On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 04:51:24PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 shit i just had a thought, do easy jet serve drinks? do they?
 please say they do? *panic starts to set in* ;-)

Yes ... but they charge for them ...

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Re: Some pretty pictures ...

2001-06-11 Thread Tony Bowden

On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 12:23:26PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
 Just thinking about why they are your favourites and what you did to
 make the image will improve your general photography. Certainly my
 contacts sheets have got generally better as I've taken more photographs
 and gone through the editing process with them.
 Not very perlish I'm afraid.

Learning what you do well by studying it, and getting better over time
isn't perlish?

Weird. I though that was part of the essence of perl.

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Re: Some Northern Irish Fun and Games ...

2001-05-18 Thread Tony Bowden

On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 07:27:10AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 This is the sort of thing that happens in the country i grew up in  
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/northern_ireland/newsid_1336000/1336347.stm

cue bad joke:

- Why do Free Presbyterians not have sex standing up?
- It might lead to dancing.

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Re: Shoot out

2001-05-17 Thread Tony Bowden

On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 01:19:27PM +0200, Merijn Broeren wrote:
 Have you seen http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/ ? 
 My pike loving friend was amused to see Perl and Python trounced. But
 the testing rig was written in Perl at least. 

His perl isn't necessarily the fastest in all cases. I sped some of his
scripts up quite significantly - enough to move it back up above Python
anyway ;)

It's all quite interesting.

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Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Tony Bowden

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:07:25PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
  So how, pray, do I opt out of the international oil companies' cartel?
 With a drill
 With a solar panel and some batteries.

With a sponge and a rusty spanner?

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Re: Boozers in Dublin

2001-04-28 Thread Tony Bowden

On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 12:41:36AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 with a webcam and they used to all go in and wave at as at exactly 12:30
 so we could see them when we were in birmingham .. it was sorta nice.
 err .. no .. I lied .. it was Belfast ... you could commute?
 cue local info from Tony

I can give local info re: Belfast - i.e. the pub mentioned above was
probably The Crown, which is actually owned by the National Trust,
but I don't really know Dublin too well

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Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-19 Thread Tony Bowden

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 08:37:31PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
 Well, one of them has finally snapped and is currently having a real go at 
 me. If you want to take a look, read the thread that starts at:
 http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453

 "And I can program better than you any day of the week. Bring it on if
 you want a challange. I will totally blow you and any supporter away
 in a programming match."

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Re: Tie::Scalar::Decay ...

2001-04-11 Thread Tony Bowden

On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:41:51PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
  Didn't Tony from Blackstar do this already?  
 Yes, but a) he never released it on CPAN

At the time I was under a contract which didn't let me do this...

I should really upload some stuff now ...

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use Aegis;

2001-04-04 Thread Tony Bowden


How can any of you fail to want to use Aegis now?

- Forwarded message from Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Subject: Aegis 3.25 - project change supervisor
From: Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am pleased to announce that Aegis 3.25 has been released.

http://www.canb.auug.org.au/~millerp/aegis/


* There is a new aebuffy(1) command, which may be used to
see what changes a user has outstanding.  It needs X11
(Tk/Tcl) to work.  Named after the xbuffy(1) command.

...

- End forwarded message -

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Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread Tony Bowden

On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:47:03PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 I'd advise getting some non-trainers involved as well, perhaps
 Blackstar and other Perl businesses? (their hook will be that
 they become partners and get logo placement in whatever pseudo
 forum/organisation does this)

Somehow I doubt that the company still known as BlackStar will be that
interested.

I may be interested in being involved from a different perspective
though 

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Re: April Meetings

2001-03-25 Thread Tony Bowden

On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 06:44:43PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
 The April meetings are approaching and we have no firm plans for them yet.
 The social meeting will be on April 5th. Last plan I remember was that 
 mstevens was going to investigate booking the cellar bar at the Cittie of 
 Yorke. Did that happen?

Hmmm  or, you could have your social meeting in Belfast, while Schwern
is still here ...

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Re: Module of the Year contender...

2001-03-20 Thread Tony Bowden

On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 12:14:44PM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
 From ny.pm.
 The meme is spreading :)

 At Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:01:19 +, Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On the shoulders of such giants as Date::Christmas, Date::Discordian
  and Date::Tolkien::Shire stands Date::MMDDYY!
  http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Date-MMDDYY
  Reason #120398 why I need to get CPANTS off the ground.

This is what happens when I forward London.pm mail internally ...

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Re: FW: Kevin Smith Film Fest - Non-HTML version!

2001-03-07 Thread Tony Bowden

On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:12:11PM +, Jon Eyre wrote:
 Mi vida loca (1993)  Teenage Drug Customer 
 nothing else which I've seen...

He has a fairly significant part in Mumford, as a skateboarding
tech millionaire ...

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Re: OT: Buffy (or not OT, depending on your point of view)

2001-02-08 Thread Tony Bowden

On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 11:20:58AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 sounds like someone needs to buy the DVD and see if it comes with
 a cinema trailer

But, where would one buy DVDs?

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Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Tony Bowden

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:56:24PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
 Didn't the case of 'A Fist In the Bush' prove that Amazon's "Sales"
 rankings are actually down to how many people look at things?

Wasn't that more to do with the "people who like like also like *this*"
rankings that the actual sales ranks, which they claim are actually
based on sales, and not even on who's paid them most?

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Migrating from 5.005 to 5.6

2001-01-30 Thread Tony Bowden


So, we've a pretty large system running on 5.005_03. We want to move to
5.6. We've been running several development machines on 5.6 without any
noticeable problems, but it's impoosible to test by hand every possible
script etc that could be run.

Are there any known gotchas that we should be aware of before switching
on our production machines?

I can't find a list anywhere. All the deltas and what's news etc all
just talk about new features, not any backwards problems...

Thanks,

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Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-18 Thread Tony Bowden

On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:40:56PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
 If you present the chart in a different format to how they did then
 there's nothing they can do...
 Take a look at http://www.bath.ac.uk/~bssnrw/getchart.html for a
 differing viewpoint.

OK ... when I said "there's nothing they can do", I of course meant
there's nothing they can do if you're prepared to actually fight them
in court, not "they can't send you threatening legal letters that
actually carry no legal weight".

There's nothing at that page to suggest that CIN were doing anything
other than throwing their weight around just to scare someone off.
Which is what companies do all the time. 

I paid thousands of pounds for legal advice on this very issue (albeit
about 5 years ago), and the opinion I got was "factual information
cannot be copyrighted - only the arrangement of it". The classic case is
someone who retypes a phone book. You can't reissue it in the same order
(i.e. alphabetic by surname) as the original, but you could quite happily
order it numberic by phone number and no-one could do anything...

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Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-18 Thread Tony Bowden

On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 08:03:52AM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
  The fact you are recording is "What Billboard said was number one". *That*
  is a fact. Why they decided it was number one isn't the issue.
 How about if I put up a website wherein I disclose the fact: "This is what
 the object code to commercial app looks like?"

If people can't see a difference here, then let's just leave it to
the lawyers. We'll just go round and round for ages...

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Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-18 Thread Tony Bowden

On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:53:12PM -, Matthew Jones wrote:
 Is this relevant at all?
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16147.html
 "The injunction was granted thanks to new European database laws that
 essentially assume data to be copyrightable"

Almost certainly. As I say, my legal dealings here were 5 years ago
when it wasn't...

 Does that mean things like the Billboard charts? They could certainly try
 and demonstrate an adverse effect on their revenues from licensing their
 listings...

Well, you're into transatlantic stuff if the site was in the UK, but this
new law would massively complicate things.

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Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Tony Bowden

On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:42:55PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  have to pay them back with interest and stuff.
 equity surely? ;-)

Yes. But if you're successful the "interest" rate is huge ;)

But if you're not, well, they lose the money and not you.

FWIW It's much easier to negotiate with VCs if you're already
well established and actually have revenue and commitments and
stuff

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Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-17 Thread Tony Bowden

On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 02:54:50PM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote:
 We're planning a London Open Source Convention.  The dates we're
 looking hard at now are August 20-23.  Are there any obvious clashes

Depends on how quickly people can get back from Vancouver:
  http://www.geekcruises.com/home/ss_home.html

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Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-17 Thread Tony Bowden

On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 01:26:24PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
 Who's chart would you use?  I.E., who do you want to be sued by?  I don't
 know about the UK, but Billboard (THE chart in the US) is very picky about
 such things.

They can't easily sue.

The information is factual. Factual information cannot be
copyrighted. Only the arrangement of it.

If you present the chart in a different format to how they did then
there's nothing they can do...

(ObDisclaimer: IANAL, although I have taken legal advice on this matter...)

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Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Tony Bowden

On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:53:57PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 I started learning Japanese when the NI administration decided to teach
 it to joint classes of catholic children and protestant children. Hence
 it was a good way to meet a brand new batch of girls. I stopped soon after.

Hey ... I never got opportunities like that!

Was this only out in strange places? Or just after/before my time?

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Re: one liner

2001-01-11 Thread Tony Bowden

On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 07:38:04PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
  Oh, and Amazon.com have the Learning Tk book at 90% off at the minute
  if anyone's interested ..
 That'll explain the increase in sales that Nat noted the other day then :)

Well, I expected one of their "Oops, we made a pricing error, so we can't
sell you the large quantity of the book you requested, but hey, we're nice
people, so we'll let you have one of them cheap instead" emails.

But they claim to have shipped them all. At 90% off. Which I like.

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Re: one liner

2001-01-08 Thread Tony Bowden

On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 10:14:59AM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote:
 We also have another Perl/Tk book coming out.  It's more advanced than
 "Learning ..." and, we hope, learns from the criticism levelled at
 that book.  In particular, look for examples.

Oh, and Amazon.com have the Learning Tk book at 90% off at the minute
if anyone's interested ..

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Re: copious free time

2001-01-06 Thread Tony Bowden

On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:00:39PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 i think the real question (not specifically about h2g2) is what happened to
 cost/benefit analysis (and i'm talking about benefit to the profit sheet
 not some imaginary paper money IPO value)?

Also know as the first rule of finance:

"Don't run out of money".

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Re: I'm looking for a job!

2001-01-03 Thread Tony Bowden

On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 10:28:37AM -, Leo Lapworth wrote:
 If you know of any decent jobs please could you
 give me a yell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and if anyone is
 interested my CV, with phone number, can be found at:

Guessing you're among the people who aren't interested in relocating?

We've a fairly senior Perl position opening at the minute if anyone
*is* interested in relocating. I'm sure Greg can enthuse better than us
about how great N. Ireland actually is to live :)

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Re: Getting keys of mappe @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/;d hash?

2001-01-03 Thread Tony Bowden

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:16:06AM +, Piers Cawley wrote:
  How can I do this:
my @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/;
my %hash = map { $_ = 1 } @men;
my @sort = sort keys %hash;
print "We have @sort\n"; # foo bar baz
  without the %hash?

 my $last;
 do {print $_ unless $_ eq $last; $last = $_} for sort @list
 Dunno if it's quicker than the cunning tricks with map, but hey, it
 works. 

Ah, but my question was badly phrased. I needed to end up with @sort, not
a printed list ... 

The result of this was heading towards another couple of maps ;)

I had found the solution long before this turned up though (stupidly
forgot to update my .muttrc for the new list address, so I had to go
through moderation again ...) - just a matter of doubling those curly
brackets (no need for all those +s etc...)

Thanks,

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Re: [OT] Perl Agents

2001-01-03 Thread Tony Bowden

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:14:15PM -, Dean S Wilson wrote:
 PS Is Blackstar looking for Junior coders? Never been to Ireland ;)

'fraid not ...

We're looking for someone (or possibly sometwo, but probably only
someone), for a very senior position - in the 35k+ range. (That's
an NI salary - not sure what the equivalent London salary would be).

i.e. someone more senior than our current seniors, who would be
responsible for working on deep core stuff, as well as training/reviewing
the current senior and junior programmers...

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Getting keys of mapped hash?

2001-01-02 Thread Tony Bowden


OK, my brain has fried. 

How can I do this:

  my @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/;
  my %hash = map { $_ = 1 } @men;
  my @sort = sort keys %hash;
  print "We have @sort\n"; # foo bar baz

without the %hash?

i.e. something akin to: my @sort = sort keys map { $_ = 1 } @list;

I've tried so many variations that my brain is refusing to tell me the 
correct answer.

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Re: I'm looking for a job!

2001-01-02 Thread Tony Bowden

On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 10:28:37AM -, Leo Lapworth wrote:
 If you know of any decent jobs please could you
 give me a yell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and if anyone is
 interested my CV, with phone number, can be found at:

Guessing you're among the people who aren't interested in relocating?

We've a fairly senior Perl position opening at the minute if anyone
*is* interested in relocating. I'm sure Greg can enthuse better than us
about how great N. Ireland actually is to live :)

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Re: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623

2001-01-02 Thread Tony Bowden

On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 05:13:25PM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
 U.H.F.?  Simon has a copy off of TV which we could dub to a spare VHS
 tape.
 There's alway's blackstar's video hunt
 http://www.blackstar.co.uk/video/item/700015733

Of course, were you to order now there'd be 16 people in front of you
in the queue, and as we've only found 2 copies of it in 18 months you
may be waiting a while :)

Although, that's not to say we'll suddenly find about 200 in a warehouse
somewhere like we did with Song of the South ...

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Re: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623

2000-12-28 Thread Tony Bowden

On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:33:59AM -0500, David H. Adler wrote:
  Does "American Beauty" count for 2000, I can't remember seeing a better
  recent film, though I don't get to the cinema as much as I'd like to.
 Nope, that was 1999.  Got lots of acadamy awards, too.

Actually, it only went on general UK release in February 2000 ...

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Re: OT for London.pm : Forwarded : The Perfect Storm - The Condensed Script

2000-12-28 Thread Tony Bowden

On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:23:42PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 given your love for movies i thought you'd enjoy this, it is far 
 too accurate. I would of walked out of watching the perfect storm
 apart from the fact that i was at 20,000 feet - but it was still 
 a close call.

I haven't actually managed to see The Perfect Storm. However, this
is mostly through choice.

On the other hand, O Brother Where Art Thou is an excellent film, and
Clooney is actually really good in it.

I haven't made my Top 10 of 2000 yet. My main problem with this kind of
list is deciding what's allowed to go in. For example I saw American
Beauty, Fight Club, The Straight Story, Boys Don't Cry and Being John
Malkovich in 1999, even though they didn't open in the UK until 2000. I'd
still like to put them in my 2000 list though, as this hasn't been as
good a year for movies IMO. (Plus I also haven't seen most of this year's
big releases: Gladiator, Perfect Storm, Toy Story 2, Chicken Run, X-Men,
What Lies Beneath, Scary Movie, The Grinch, etc). I also missed most of
this year's big arthouse movies (Ghost Dog, Requiem For a Dream, Dancer
in the Dark etc), so my list is going to be skewed by that as well...

Off the cuff, my list would probably be (allowing for the fact that I've
almost certainly forgotten some major films that should be here...)

 1. Being John Malkovich
 2. Fight Club
 3. High Fidelity
 4. American Beauty
 5. O Brother Where Art Thou
 6. Boiler Room
 7. The Straight Story
 8. Boys Don't Cry
 9. Billy Elliot
10. Erin Brokovich

Worst Film of the Year (original story) award goes to Topsy-Turvy.

Worst Film of the Year (remake) award goes to Michael Almereyda's Hamlet.

Longest Time To Recognise Major Actor in Major Part award goes to Gary Oldman
in The Contender.

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