brief penderel outage
i'm taking penderel down for a little bit services shouldnt be gone too long all will be back better and shinier sooner jo
rewind elector
eek, i've just grokked that george osborne, who was 2 years above me at college, has been elected tory mp for tatton. i wish i hadn't been passed out on dave's sofa at that point. gah, i feel old and sleepy so nothing changes, but it was nice to realise that in the company of perlmongers. cheerz jo xx
[JOB] short modperl, long systems at LSE (fwd)
friend at LSE needing 5 days of mod_perl XML freelancing, said i'd pass this along, didnt actually wait for response, but hey. oh gosh, i should finish the london jobs database. and put the new disk in penderel, which it was too sunny to do during the tech meet. early next week i guess :/ soz jo xx -- From: Emmott,Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm looking for a freelance PERL[sic] programmer to write an Apache module for us - part of our content management solution at LSE. It's a really interesting project based around navigation generated dynamically from metadata (RDF, Dublin Core). We have full specification and statement of work - so whoever does the work will have a clear brief. P.S. We've also advertised for a Systems Officer to work in the department I manage - Website Services: http://jobs.ac.uk/jobfiles/LE213.html
penderel going down for a little while
if that's okay...? i'm going to replace the old disk with the shiny new 40Gb one. we wound up reinstalling from scratch on the new disk. the outage should hopefully be quite short. i plan to do this in about quarter of an hour's time. please wibble at me soon if this will cause you problems, or wibble at me or alex tomorrow if there are things you feel you're missing. jo xx -- would everyone stop please taking the law into their own hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://state51.co.uk http://musicbee.com
tube strike / may meeting postponed til 10th
well, it looks like the tube strike (8pm Weds 2nd May - 8pm Thurs 3rd May) is still on, and this will scupper our May social meeting plans rather. invoking the awesome powers delegated to me by davorg i pronounce that May's social meeting will be postponed until thursday May 10th, and if the tube strike happens to be called off lastminute like, we'll stick to the 10th so as to avoid any more confusion than usual. i'll update the website to reflect all this. http://www.thisislondon.com/dynamic/news/story.html?in_review_id=385519in_review_text_id=331603 http://www.tubehell.com/files/aslef.htm jo -- would everyone stop please taking the law into their own hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://state51.co.uk
Re: JOB: Another one (Banking)
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:53:09AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: This is for people who don't have a problem working in a bank. Would it be worth forking london-pm-jobs? i've been inadvertently hacking on a web-based forum for this stuff for a little while... will talk about it a bit tonight, and happy to accept suggestions and offers of tweaks for it. nothing to see at the moment, though :/ jo
Re: JOB: Another one (Banking)
i've been inadvertently hacking on a web-based forum for this stuff for a little while... How can you inadvertently hack ? at a scattiness load as consistently high as mine has been lately, it's hard to do many things advertently consider yourself warned :) z
RE: Tech mtg?
Could someone at State51, please put something useful up on the web page - or post directions to the list - or do _something_ that will make me look a little less disorganised than I really am! state51, 8-10 rhoda street, off brick lane just past junction with bethnal green road: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=533817Y=182479A=YZ=1 tube bethnal green/aldgate east 10 mins, old street/liverpool street 15. number 8 bus (west end - tcr - holborn - bank - right outside here) phone us on 0207 729 4343 this all gives me a creeping sense of deja type, i'll stick something up on the web site if i have time, or if that will give me an excuse for having no actually working demos for tomorrow looking forward to seeing many of you, jo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://state51.co.uk isnt technology a wonder invention
RE: Tech mtg?
this all gives me a creeping sense of deja type yeah, i've just looked and realised it says almost exactly the same thing on the website, except in more detail: http://london.pm.org/WhatDo.shtml oh well, i made a nice page for us: http://london.pm.org/places/state51.html ho hum, jo
Re: NWS (was Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April)
4) Install Apache::Template, Bundle-XML, Template Toolkit 2.02 on penderel I think this has already been mostly done, but I could be wrong. after much grappling with CPAN shell trying to upgrade us to 5.6.1, this is all done now, though a couple of newer versions of XML modules - not the crucial ones - failed tests, i didn't want to force. let me know if there's anything you want or need missing, jo
Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April
Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us, but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to step forward. i recall promising to do 20 minutes on '101 fun things to do with Tangram', or something like that. am still happy to do this, but also happy to do less time if more people want to do longer talks. jo
RE: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)
Wrong. There was a concerted effort by the loony left to destroy decent education in favour of whatever trendy piffle that was the order of the day. I had to unlearn the reading I knew before I went to school in favour of some stupid phonetic system (anyone remember ITA?) in 1970, finally As a child of '72 I too suffered from the phonetic system. well, it seems none of us from '74 were taught formal english grammar at school. i picked grammatical terms up from spanish, treat grammar mostly as instinctive. the political changes are interesting though. remember that the years during which we perhaps should have been taught formal grammar coincide with the first years of the conservative government. though i suppose before the national curriculum, policy was implemented on a council level; i was schooled in fairly left-voting areas in, near, london. political left vs theoretical left, or extreme liberalism. i don't remember being subjected to this phonetic system, think it was rejected in favour of something called 'emergent reading' which is as useless if not backed up by non-school reading experiences. (piaget[0] was influential i think). so we align two kinds of left as the discarding of old structures and the development of new ones. later in this thread someone mentions the lack of english equivalent of the Academie Francaise. the history and the politics of a language are reflected in it; england has no constitution, but a convenient counterbalance. "it is better for the law to be known" says dr johnson's dictionary, "than to be right." is that quite a perlish statement? is our code determined by any kind of politics? someone else mentioned the pr(eo?)scrptive/descriptive grammar thing in terms of natural and machine languages, and where perl fits in, in being so context-dependent. i'm very into the idea of writing or generating grammars and lexers for experimental, artificial languages that would be free of the wrong kinds of context. don't find lack of formal grammar schooling a problem, everything can be learned. circularly, perhaps it is good not to impose too many high-level structures on the minds of children. must...switch...off...rant...mode... zool [0] http://www.piaget.org this is nice, programmatic: His researches in developmental psychology and genetic epistemology had one unique goal: how does knowledge grow? His answer is that the growth of knowledge is a progressive construction of logically embedded structures superseding one another by a process of inclusion of lower less powerful logical means into higher and more powerful ones up to adulthood. Therefore, children's logic and modes of thinking are initially entirely different from those of adults. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.zooleika.org.uk is love a sine wave?
when are we going to see the caaaamels
can we go now that it is spring? some sunday afternoon soon? davorg? can we davorg? z -- dha CAMEL CAMEL CAMEL! you just have to redefine fun locally
RE: Penderel Configuration
I'd like to be able to have a http://london.pm.org/~shiels web address, and a cgi-bin directory. k i can do the ~/public_html thing and sort this out is that the best way? or there is a group of web users who can write to the docroot if you prefer (both?) I would like to have (at least) one mysql database to play with. mysql is installed and should be running, i spose anyone who wants their own database should email me or alex about it I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed. Why don't we just install all of CPAN to begin with? We are a pm group no? this is a good idea. And can we have password based SSH(or whatever we have to call it now) as well as PK based ? no problems, is enabled. call us at state51 or start a 'talk' session on the box, i guess, and get told a password sorry about continuing absence of mailman jo
london.pm.org seems to be working
for at least some values of working todo - 1/ get mailman properly configured 2/ set up sudo for web stuff 3/ profit! jo
JOB: desperately seeking symbian
a friend asked me to pass this on, it seems interesting. (symbian looking for 1 junior 1 senior perm perl bods) in a parallel world where i have cft, this has gone in the jobs database. um. -- The contact details are: Dave Jobling Manager, Tools and Processes Team System Documentation Symbian Switchboard: +44 (0)20 7563 2000 Desk: +44 (0)20 7563 2842 Mobile:+44 07747 065564 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Job title: 2x Build and Tools Software Engineer, reporting to me as team leader within the SysDoc group. (1 junior, 1 senior; both permanent.) Location: Central London (nearest tube station: Edgeware Road). Broad content of the role: The System Documentation Group is responsible for producing and maintaining documentation targetted at developers working with the Symbian software platform. The resulting Developer Library documentation is released as part of the Software Development Kits (SDKs) that are used by Symbian licensees, partners, third party developers and in-house software engineers. Within the System Documentation Group, the Tools and Processes Team is responsible for the development and maintenance of a tool chain to support the documentation production process. The technology areas supported by the team include XML and HTML, source control and configuration management, builds, testing, system and product integration and product release. Tools are typically engineered using Perl. Key tasks: * support, maintain and extend document building tool chain and processes * evolve the design and structure of the documentation component of Symbian SDKs * identify process improvements * create and maintain process documentation Essential qualifications: * experience of Perl development in a commercial environment (scaled according to role sought) * problem-solver, team player, adaptable and flexible, suited to working under pressure, attention to detail, good communicator Desired qualifications: * for the senior role, education to software engineering (or similar) degree; for the junior role, degree in an IT-related subject * knowledge of XML/HTML * knowledge of (not necessarily direct involvement in) C++ development in a commercial environment * knowledge of software development methodologies, software integration and testing
Re: apologies
i am not going to be able to make it tonight, today is my first day back at work after some flu like illness. i had hoped to make it tonight but currently feel like matt wrights code, ditto, except today is the first day of similar flu-like illness :( sorry i wont be there to do the gracious hostessing thing and my five minutes of fame will have to wait :/ have a good one, jo
Re: Technical Meeting Agenda
Venue: State 51 (full details - and a map? - to follow) State51 is in a disused foam factory at 8-10 rhoda street, bethnal green, near the junction of brick lane and bethnal green road. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=533817Y=182479A=YZ=1 tube shoreditch (but closes early), bethnal green 10 mins, liverpool street 15 mins, old street 15 mins, number 8 bus (victoria-tcr-holborn-bank-here) right outside. there's a big iron gate with 'state51' painted on it. go in and at the far end is a metal staircase. we're at the top. we may be slightly short of chairs. it may be a little chilly. We'll start with four or five lightning talks. Currently I've only got Robin talking about Oulipo, but I'm sure we can come up with a couple more between us. i could do 5 mins on what fun it is to build a perl jobs database with tangram and template toolkit. (it's in testing atm) if you like. jo
RE: Technical Meeting Agenda
i could do 5 mins on what fun it is to build a perl jobs database with tangram and template toolkit. (it's in testing atm) if you like. That would be cool. Do you want to publicise the URL or is it a Big Secret? i will do that when it is not not quite finished. like what it is now :) jo
the list is dead, long live the list
lets kill off the old list before the two get too far out of sync jo ps sorry about mail bounces from partyvibe it will be down til next week :( -- a member of the state51 conspiracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the list is dead, long live the list
And a pony. who needs a pony when we have a camel? when are we going to see the camel i would sooner install qmail/ezmlm than mailman would ppl object? -- a member of the state51 conspiracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
