Re: Government Websites
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 09:59:52AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: Tired of government websites that only cater for browsers with non-standard proprietary extensions (cf http://www.gateway.gov.uk. Don't jsut sit there complaining - do something positive about it! http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/Browse/Fulltextjob/0,1755,100124337,00.html An understanding of HTML and applications such as Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Fireworks, Flash, Perl, JavaScript, ASP and XML is essential, as is the ability to see the web through users' eyes How many errors in one paragraph! 1) Interesting, Perl is now an application as are all the others. 2) Oh, yea, make your designers code and your coders design, that'll make for a good site - honest. 3) see the web through users' eyes - easy, they can't all see it - does that mean you don't have to do anything ? :) Leo
Re: Government Websites
Leo Lapworth wrote: 2) Oh, yea, make your designers code and your coders design, that'll make for a good site - honest. Though if the designers have some idea of what is and what isn't possible/easy to implement, maybe we wouldn't have so many image roll-overs, blank one-pixel GIFs, tables within tables withing tables, etc. 3) see the web through users' eyes - easy, they can't all see it - does that mean you don't have to do anything ? Users will say: I don't have Flash and don't want to download it. Therefore, I should leave out the Flash bits of the site. Users will say: I read that JavaScript can expose security holes, so I'll turn it off. Therefore, I will make all my navigation work without JavaScript turned on. Sounds like a good idea to me so far. Cheers, philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: Government Websites
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 11:41:57AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Users will say: I don't have Flash and don't want to download it. Therefore, I should leave out the Flash bits of the site. Users will say: I read that JavaScript can expose security holes, so I'll turn it off. Therefore, I will make all my navigation work without JavaScript turned on. Sounds like a good idea to me so far. Users will say: Ooh! Shiny!. R
Re: Government Websites
Roger Burton West wrote: Users will say: Ooh! Shiny!. You need to get some better users. Cheers, philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Re: Government Websites
- Original Message - From: Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: Re: Government Websites Roger Burton West wrote: Users will say: Ooh! Shiny!. You need to get some better users. That could be a viable business opportunity. A site where businesses could rent quality users for their software/websites etc. :-)
Re: Government Websites
Quoting Roger Burton West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Users will say: Ooh! Shiny!. Poing-poing-poing! -- Merijn Broeren | Fact: GPRS does not work if the Mobile Station (your phone, Software Geek | that is) moves faster than 500 km/h. Tip: NEVER drive faster than 450 km/h if you are wapping while driving!
Re: Government Websites
- Original Message - From: will [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: Re: Government Websites - Original Message - From: Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: Re: Government Websites Roger Burton West wrote: Users will say: Ooh! Shiny!. You need to get some better users. That could be a viable business opportunity. A site where businesses could rent quality users for their software/websites etc. :-) I just need something in the middle, I can find expert users that do what they are told and dont break the software, and then I can find complete idiots that can't even work out how to open the software when its the only icon on the desktop, its on the startbar and the quicklaunch bar, and in the program launcher thing on the task bar, and they still can't open it. I need to be able to rent an idiot who can get into the software but can't quite remember how to do tasks so that they click and select the wrong thing so they can break it and i can fix it again rather than doing it the way i do it which works fine. There just doesnt seem to be a happy medium any more. Idiots have got worse and the people in the know have got smarter. D
