On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2001, you wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
agreed it is a dumb thing, especially if your nameserver doesnt have a
name to lookup
Erm!!?!? How exactly were you planning to point anything at it? an NS
RR
Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
agreed it is a dumb thing, especially if your nameserver
doesnt have a name to lookup
Erm!!?!? How exactly were you planning to point anything at it? an NS
RR requires an authoritative name as it's RHS.
Note what
On Mon, 02 Apr 2001, you wrote:
if its a box-over-in-the corner that one day will be your DNS server
somewhere but right now its just a ip address on a network you're trying
to test before deploying .. it did get a name eventually.
Hmmm.. I don't quite know how you can *test* it, if it
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 01:41:14PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
host(1)'s error messages are often misleading - it can give the message
"try again" to nxdomain responses, for example...
Given how fast .NSI namespace is being eaten up, that
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
agreed it is a dumb thing, especially if your nameserver doesnt have a
name to lookup
Erm!!?!? How exactly were you planning to point anything at it? an NS
RR requires an authoritative name as it's RHS.
MBM
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2001, you wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
agreed it is a dumb thing, especially if your nameserver doesnt have a
name to lookup
Erm!!?!? How exactly were you planning to point anything at it? an NS
RR requires an authoritative name as it's RHS.
if its
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, you wrote:
Yes, it's useful. I like nslookup. (Plus I feel that dig is pretty verbose,
but maybe there's a flag to control that that I've been too lazy to look
for.)
I guess it depends on application. If you need to know the nuts and bolts
of a query, use
Robin Szemeti wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, you wrote:
Hey, check your attributions -- "you" is not very useful when you're sending
stuff to a mailing list :)
or nslookup will have to be smart enough[1] to translate
"randomkanji" to "bq--buffy" before asking the resolver
library.
err
nslookup deprecated? Rats.
Good riddence.
Yes, it's useful. I like nslookup. (Plus I feel that dig is pretty verbose,
but maybe there's a flag to control that that I've been too lazy to look
for.)
I guess it depends on application. If you need to know the nuts and bolts
of a query, use
Yes, it's useful. I like nslookup. (Plus I feel that dig is pretty verbose,
but maybe there's a flag to control that that I've been too lazy to look
for.)
I guess it depends on application. If you need to know the nuts and bolts
of a query, use dig. If you only need a quick resolution
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Steve Keay wrote:
nslookup does a rather dumb thing: it tries to lookup the reverse DNS
for the nameserver it's about to use. Apart from being a waste of
time, failure to find the name means it will refuse to query that
nameserver.
Why doesn't your nameserver *have*
On Thu Mar 29 15:37:29 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* - BTW, does that mean that all calls within NI are now charged at local
rate? Can belfast.pm enlighten me on this?
Do you really think we'd get that lucky? No we get hit with the charge for a
national call even though it's all in
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 01:41:14PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
host(1)'s error messages are often misleading - it can give the message
"try again" to nxdomain responses, for example...
Given how fast .NSI namespace is being eaten up, that doesn't seem like
such an unrealistic message
Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
Given we can now have kanji URLs, [...]
Can we now? I thought there were several different proposed schemes, but
none has been officially accepted as standard.
Cheers,
Philip
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If you're not
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 12:26:46PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
Chris Benson wrote:
The people in uk.telecom were suggesting a one-off-this-will-hurt-but-
it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to
() -
format
Wouldn't that be rather wasteful?
Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Philip Newton wrote:
Unless you translate them to an acceptable set, which is, I
believe, where domain i18n is heading. The question is in
which algorithm to choose for translation.
Right. Which is evil and horrid.
nslookup
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 02:46:48PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:23:12AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You show me a DNS server which supports kanji :-)
This is a big bugbear of mine. Yes, you can register domains in
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 12:26:46PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
Chris Benson wrote:
() -
Wouldn't that be rather wasteful? After all, population is distributed
What are you wasting? Numbers? What is the cost of extra numbers?
Some people in small places have to type 8
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, you wrote:
Yes. Either you have to translate "randomkanji" to "bq--buffy"[2] in your
head or with an appropriate tool, or nslookup will have to be smart
enough[1] to translate "randomkanji" to "bq--buffy" before asking the
resolver library.
err [1] unlikely to happen
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, you wrote:
Yes. Either you have to translate "randomkanji" to "bq--buffy"[2] in your
head or with an appropriate tool, or nslookup will have to be smart
enough[1] to translate "randomkanji" to "bq--buffy" before asking the
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Do you really think we'd get that lucky? No we get hit with the charge for a
national call even though it's all in the one area code. They just divide it
with codes for each area, so Belfast in 02890 whilst Lisburn is 02892.
I didn't call my
Chris Devers wrote:
In any event, the leading 1 is never part of the phone
number, but you always have to dial it whenever making a
"long distance" call.
Well, I would have thought that's just splitting hairs -- is the '0' part of
the number 0207 xxx is the number 207 xxx "but you
Neil Ford wrote:
I suppose I'd be splitting hairs if I pointed out that the
dialing code for London is 020, meaning numbers should be
shown as 020 .
Oh, all right. Thanks to Neil and Simon for the correction. I suppose this
misapprehension comes partly because it *used* to be two
Simon Wistow wrote:
It was origially 01 ne c'est pas?
(ITYM "n'est-ce pas?") Yes, it was. I remember that time.
Cheers,
Philip
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On 28/03/2001 at 13:23 +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:09:37 +0100, Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[London phone codes]
It was origially 01 ne c'est pas? Then it changed to 071 (Inner
London) and 081 (Greater London) then it changed to 0171 and 0181 and
then finally to
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:09:50PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
the fuckwits at Oftel lumbered us with 01[78]1 in the first place is
something of a mystery to me...
Was it Oftel that made that choice or BT? I was assumed it was the
lumbering ineptitude of The World's Most Evil Phone Company (to
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:29:21PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
There must have been *some* way Oftel could have made something similar
work here.
The people in uk.telecom were suggesting a one-off-this-will-hurt-but-
it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:04:34AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:09:50PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
the fuckwits at Oftel lumbered us with 01[78]1 in the first place is
something of a mystery to me...
Was it Oftel that made that choice or BT? I was assumed it was
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote:
it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to
() -
Twelve and eight digit phone numbers? So phalanxes of psychologists
noting that the human brain has the magic number seven genetically
At 12:04 PM 28.3.2001 -0800, you wrote:
Anyway, the whole 'numbers' thing is long over due to be replaced by
those new fangled 'letters'. Works for DNS...
Yeah, exactly. We're already partly there, sort of. I don't know the phone numbers of
any of the people I call at all regularly (i.e. more
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:04:05PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote:
it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to
() -
Twelve and eight digit phone numbers? So phalanxes of psychologists
noting
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:29:21PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
The US approach (longer local numbers- everywhere is 7 digits now,
prepended by a three digit 'city' code) combined with the fact there
s/city/area/;
NYC, for instance, has at least two area codes at this point. I
notice, in
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:04:05PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Anyway, the whole 'numbers' thing is long over due to be replaced by
those new fangled 'letters'. Works for DNS...
Oh @deity, let's not do that. Consider the mess the WIPO's causing
now, and then think about competition for "good"
Paul Makepeace wrote:
The world would be a much better place if everyone habitually quoted
their phone number +access_code area_code local_number. You don't
realise how important this is 'til you have to repeatedly find people
in various desolate stations dotted all over the world with scant,
At 01:44 PM 27.3.2001 +0200, you wrote:
I think America requires you to add "1" at the beginning; though it's not
part of the area/STD code as the 0 is in England and Germany, I think
most places require it to show you're dialling a long-distance call.
Correct. Standard format is an implicit 1,
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 01:44:49PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
Still not enough. It'll work for the Americans (yet again...)[1] but if you
have a phone number whose country codes identifies it as being in country X,
and you are in country X on a business trip and want to call that person,
At 03:28 PM 27.3.2001 -0800, you wrote:
With 10 digit dialling, it's 10 digit dialling, no extra '1' required.
E.g. if I was in Houston (which has three area codes and is 10-digit) I
would dial 713 555 1212 regardless of whether I was already in 713.
Ahh. This explains why a cell phone works
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:07:16 +, Dave Cross wrote:
At 17:48 23/03/2001, you wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, you wrote:
Well, I can make a guess at what the first number represents. Those
expansion plans really are short-term.
Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Put down
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I vaguely recall it standing for something like "Heuristic Algorithmic
Logic," but that doesn't really set it apart from anything.
how does that explain SAL9000?
MBM
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Tony Bowden wrote:
On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 03:24:48PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
More trivia: NT stands (the above not withstanding) for New Technology
which makes reading 2k's splash "Built on NT Technology" sound a bit
like recording on DAT tapes.
Or entering
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:46:07 +, Marty Pauley wrote:
The
interplanitary URL is sufficient for our short-term expansion plans.
Unfortunatly the actual specification of the scheme is a millitary
secret, but I can target your house with the following:
ipbm://3/401392692/759227092/5
Well,
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, you wrote:
Well, I can make a guess at what the first number represents. Those expansion plans
really are short-term.
Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Put down those Windows disks Dave Dave? DAVE!!"
-- HAL 9000
and for a bonus half point (cos its
On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 05:48:42PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
and for a bonus half point (cos its easy) .. why was HAL called HAL?
It's IBM with each letter shifted once to the left.
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"The day is seven hours and fifteen minutes old, and already it's
Tony wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
Love and fruit flies,
I only really want /one/ of those things...
Ditto. And I have the wrong one...
Love and grapefruit,
L.
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, you wrote:
At 17:48 23/03/2001, you wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, you wrote:
Well, I can make a guess at what the first number represents. Those
expansion plans really are short-term.
Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Put down those Windows disks
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Leon Brocard wrote:
Really? How many flies do you have?
One on each pair of trousers. Except track-suit bottoms.
Tony
Andrew Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In Iceland they append 'son' for sons and 'dottir' for daughters -
hence Magnus Magnusson is the son of Magnus, whilst Sally Magnusson
would, in Iceland at least, be Sally Magnusdottir.
I used to work with an Icelandic chap who told me that the Rekjavik
Redvers Davies wrote:
and if you don't have a last name???
I have three friends who are surnameless... their credit
cards have a "." as a surname because the bank computers
couldn't handle a lack of surname.
An example from the Perl world: Gurusamy Sarathy. His name is Sarathy, and
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Simon Wilcox wrote:
I thought I'd look this up, but the BSI want 50 quid for a copy.
I appreciate this is how they make money to fund the standards work but it
seems a tad steep for the casual viewer such as myself.
Anyone know of a free online resource ?
Useful
At Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:37:32 + (GMT), AEF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Simon Wilcox wrote:
I thought I'd look this up, but the BSI want 50 quid for a copy.
I appreciate this is how they make money to fund the standards work
but it seems a tad steep for the
At 06:42 21/03/2001 -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
At Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:37:32 + (GMT), AEF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Useful Summary: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html
Standard: ftp://ftp.qsl.net/pub/g1smd/8601v03.pdf
This one seems to be a second edition although the
This site seems to confirm it tho:
http://www.saqqara.demon.co.uk/datefmt.htm
Hmmm, 11 reasons to use this format:
5 of these reasons are "Because it makes it easier for me to write software
if you do" which don't carry much weight IMNSHO
However, in the spirit of standardisation, I'd like
"Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This site seems to confirm it tho:
http://www.saqqara.demon.co.uk/datefmt.htm
Hmmm, 11 reasons to use this format:
5 of these reasons are "Because it makes it easier for me to write software
if you do" which don't carry much weight
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 11:23:59AM +, Simon Wilcox wrote:
At 11:43 20/03/2001 -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
Which is the ISO standard (number 8601) for dates for a very good
reason.
I thought I'd look this up, but the BSI want 50 quid for a copy.
I appreciate this is how they make
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Marcel Grunauer wrote:
Jonathan Peterson writes:
Please use:
ISO planet code, ISO country code, POSTCODE, Building Number[, apartment
number][, business name]
[snippage]
Peterson, Jonathan
Earth, UK, W1H 6LT, 40, Ideashub
2001-03-21
That works for the UK,
Quoting Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Please use:
ISO planet code, ISO country code, POSTCODE, Building Number[, apartment
number][, business name]
Please move to one of the former USSR countries, they write their
addresses there like that.
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, you wrote:
Human postmen can do amazing
things, like deliver letters addresses to "John Smith, the house with the
blue door, near the flower shop in the main street in Newtownards".
blimey .. he really _IS_ a martian .. must be ... down here on Earth the
postmen can't
LASTNAME, [FIRSTNAME|FIRST INITIAL]
and if you don't have a last name???
I have three friends who are surnameless... their credit cards have a "." as
a surname because the bank computers couldn't handle a lack of surname.
On 2001, Mar, 21, Wed Pauley, Marley wrote:
That would work if 'significant' was well defined in relation to names,
but it isn't. It works with dates because 'significant' has a well
defined meaning in relation to numerical quantities.
I wonder what Larry thinks about this.
Later.
Mark.
[Continuing off-topic - not a surprise on London.pm, I'm sure (I thought Mr.
Cantrell's [ot] the other day denoted 'on-topic' :--)]
From: Marty Pauley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
In some countries the 'family name' is actually defined by your
job, location, or other mutable property. It used to
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