On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 11:26:28PM -0500, Mark Rogaski wrote:
It's also sheer idiocy to pipe arbitrary code from an untrusted, unverified
source directly to the shell.
How is it less secure than downloading a tar file and typing ./configure?
Admittedly you *could* check several meg of source
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 10:42:34AM +, Steve Mynott wrote:
"David H. Adler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, you're much too kind. My redhat box is disintigrating before my
very eyes. root partition filled up for no reason and, thus I looked
at the partition table:
/
/boot
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yeah, I know, but then I compile plenty of stuff from scratch rather than
rely on RPMs. The real reason I haven't switched is because it's really
The drawback with 'make install' from source is that it doesn't write a
database of files owned by that
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 05:01:55AM +, Shevek wrote:
I had always committed to the nature of Unix being that one does end up
with a pile of stuff on disk which one doesn't use.
for i in etc usr; do
find /$i -mount -type f -atime +60 | perl -lne unlink;
done
:-)
The point is that
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 11:26:28PM -0500, Mark Rogaski wrote:
An entity claiming to be David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:
: It's more than cute. It's *BRILLIANT*. The user doesn't even have to
: know what computer they have. Whilst they only support a couple of
: combinations of
On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 02:53:57PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
Surely, then, rpm should have the ability to install and fetch
dependencies from the network automagically?
Yes it should. It doesn't. Which is why Helix's installer is so much
easier to use.
start type="holy_war"
Or, more
On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 05:19:18PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote:
It continues to amaze me that people still use Red Hat. It's
just a pile of marketing driven crap. Debian is so far superior
it hurts watching people struggle with RPMs.
Yeah, I know, but then I compile plenty of stuff from
On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, David Cantrell wrote:
rely on RPMs. The real reason I haven't switched is because it's really
*nasty* trying to switch from one distro to another without a) losing
valuable config data and b) ending up with a ton of unused junk on the disk
which is nigh-on impossible to
Some people like "bernsteinisms"!
;-)
"Paul Makepeace" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: "David Cantrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exactly. I just can't handle bernsteinisms when there are good
alternatives
available - exim (easy), postfix (secure), mailman. I can only put up with
his
Following the interest in rope/pope, etc perhaps it would be an idea for
some of the more perl / oss oriented companies in london (or wherever) to
agree to take part in the project on a semi official basis - much of what
the work that the london and UK companies do is replicated because of lack
* Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Following the interest in rope/pope, etc perhaps it would be an idea for
some of the more perl / oss oriented companies in london (or wherever) to
agree to take part in the project on a semi official basis - much of what
the work that the london
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 02:16:15PM +, Andy Wardley wrote:
Said I:
In all fairness, I have to say that mailman is an *excellent* mailing
list manager.
Said David H. Adler:
So why haven't you reimplemented it in perl? :)
Are you sitting comfortably? :-)
Because the tools
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 07:06:00PM +, Steve Mynott wrote:
No you would want to build packages (.deb, .rpm and BSD and Solaris
packages) of rope for a "binary" type install as well as supplying a
"source" tar which works with make, make install.
The installation method used by Helix is
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 08:28:25PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
lynx -source http://go-gnome.com/ | sh
that would rock.
also what would be very valuable would be the ability to install from one
config for a cluster or synchronise config changes
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 12:32:46PM +, Leon Brocard wrote:
Jo Walsh sent the following bits through the ether:
lets kill off the old list before the two get too far out of sync
Nah, mailman on penderel - you know you want to! ;-)
Yeah, we want our own mailing list server.
And a pony.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
Nah, mailman on penderel - you know you want to! ;-)
Yeah, we want our own mailing list server.
Mmph, it's not that hard to install Majordomo is it? If need be, just give
me the root password and I'll go and set it up...
And a pony.
It's running
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:16:19PM +, Jo Walsh wrote:
i would sooner install qmail/ezmlm than mailman
would ppl object?
I'd rather see exim/mailman but qmail is cool too.
The most important bit is to get *something* working :)
Michael
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:20:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
(Supposedly Mjd 2 is going to be better, RSN.)
IIRC the postgresql mailing list are actually using it, or were. Don't
think that it is done yet, tho.
Smartlist is good. Mailman is good.
ezmlm and qmail actually seem pretty
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:11:45PM +, Peter Corlett wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
Nah, mailman on penderel - you know you want to! ;-)
Yeah, we want our own mailing list server.
Mmph, it's not that hard to install Majordomo is it? If need be, just give
me the root
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:27:50PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
/me has a bone to pick with majordomo.
majordomo + virtual domains = a whole world of hurt
It's doable, you'll just wish you hadn't.
Michael
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:25:26PM +, Greg Cope wrote:
Roger Burton West wrote:
Smartlist is good. Mailman is good.
ezmlm is better
Other than its unfortunate reliance on qmail.
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Any technology
From: Peter Corlett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 January 2001 13:12
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
Nah, mailman on penderel - you know you want to! ;-)
Yeah, we want our own mailing list server.
Mmph, it's not that hard to install Majordomo is it? If need
be, just give me the
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:39:18PM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:27:50PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
/me has a bone to pick with majordomo.
majordomo + virtual domains = a whole world of hurt
It's doable, you'll just wish you hadn't.
It's all working swimingly
An entity claiming to be David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:
: majordomo + virtual domains = a whole world of hurt
:
With a virtual user table under Sendmail, I would imagine it's not _that_
bad.
Mark
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On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:51:15PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
Good thing: the error messages were short enough to fit into an SMS
Bad thing: they contained no useful information whatsoever
I Will Not Give In. I Will Not Install Python.
I actually kinda like python, from the little I've
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 02:07:20PM +, Andy Wardley wrote:
In all fairness, I have to say that mailman is an *excellent* mailing
list manager.
So why haven't you reimplemented it in perl? :)
dha
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Good marriages work this
* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 02:07:20PM +, Andy Wardley wrote:
In all fairness, I have to say that mailman is an *excellent* mailing
list manager.
So why haven't you reimplemented it in perl? :)
previous_comment delivery="gentle"
because
"David H. Adler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 02:07:20PM +, Andy Wardley wrote:
In all fairness, I have to say that mailman is an *excellent* mailing
list manager.
So why haven't you reimplemented it in perl? :)
As an XML and perl based application server?
From: "Andy Wardley" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In all fairness, I have to say that mailman is an *excellent* mailing
list manager.
Yes it is. Majordomo is the wrong choice for the 21st century.
Once again I'll offer to run the list on euro.pm.org but if y'all'd rather
debate stuff go ahead :-)
Paul
* Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
From: "Andy Wardley" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In all fairness, I have to say that mailman is an *excellent* mailing
list manager.
Yes it is. Majordomo is the wrong choice for the 21st century.
Once again I'll offer to run the list on euro.pm.org but
From: "David Cantrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exactly. I just can't handle bernsteinisms when there are good
alternatives
available - exim (easy), postfix (secure), mailman. I can only put up with
his oddities when the alternative is worse. djbdns vs bind.
Totally agreed. FWIW, exim + mailman
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