Re: The Open Constitution Project (was Re: Crazy Idea)

2001-04-04 Thread Philip Newton
Jonathan Stowe wrote: OK. SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of the entire UK law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge and then announce the project on slashdot Hm, checkout the US Bill of Rights, edit the First Amendment to include "free speech but no

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote: Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? maybe ... do the words 'I have my own field' mean anything to you ;) yip, but its probably not near sussex and

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 02:38 04/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Count me in. I have a tent and everything ! any you have the ``right'' attitude when it comes to beer and explosives I used to use theatrical maroons (explosives with electrical detonators) to blow

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: *shock* You used the 'o' word. its ok, we can do the organisation as long as we have the greg school of organisation in play, it will basically mean agreeing with Dave Can. when he can take his

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Simon Wilcox wrote: At 02:38 04/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Count me in. I have a tent and everything ! any you have the ``right'' attitude when it comes to beer and explosives I used to use theatrical maroons

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 04 Apr 2001, you wrote: * Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote: Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? maybe ... do the words 'I have my own field' mean anything to you ;) true .. it is no where vaguely

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 04 Apr 2001, you wrote: At 02:38 04/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Count me in. I have a tent and everything ! any you have the ``right'' attitude when it comes to beer and explosives I used to use theatrical maroons

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:38:44AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: any you have the ``right'' attitude when it comes to beer and explosives http://firedrake.org/roger/fireworks/ 'nuff said. R

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Martin Ling
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 11:05:17PM -0400, Alex Page wrote: But where would we find a camping ground with a fast net connection and wireless LAN connections? The bit of park that the Laurie bros' consume nodes cover? Martin

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 11:12 04/04/2001 +0100, Roger Burton West wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:38:44AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: any you have the ``right'' attitude when it comes to beer and explosives http://firedrake.org/roger/fireworks/ ooh, ahh !

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Simon Batistoni
Subject: Re: Crazy Idea marroons We once had a nuts teacher at school who let some 12-year-old kid (whose dad was a pyrotechnics expert) bring some of these in for a war scene in a production. I don't know whether they were made by LeMaitre, but the large ones were 10 inches long, with a 3

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 09:50 04/04/2001 +, Robin Szemeti wrote: 1) LeMaitre make some very big marroons for stage use. The very brand :-) 2) it says they need to be in some form of container when they go off. Nah. Bury them in sand for realistic WWII FX. Mwahahahaha 3) do NOT use those funny square

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Chris Heathcote
on 4/4/01 11:27 am, Simon Wilcox wrote: Luckily it only did minor damage to the backstage area. I bought a supply of various flashes and explosions, but did not have a firing box. Using the switch on a 4 way extension block (with a number of mains plugs to croc clips) is probably not the

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 11:33 04/04/2001 +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote: on 4/4/01 11:27 am, Simon Wilcox wrote: Luckily it only did minor damage to the backstage area. I bought a supply of various flashes and explosions, but did not have a firing box. Using the switch on a 4 way extension block (with a number of

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Neil Ford
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 11:53:09AM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: At 11:33 04/04/2001 +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote: on 4/4/01 11:27 am, Simon Wilcox wrote: c. (who also used to cut live mains cables with secateurs, for fun) Which reminds me of the time someone shorted out a mains socket with

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Martin Ling
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:12:56PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: Which reminds me of the time someone shorted out a mains socket with a paper clip "to see what happened". Or the case of taking the wire from inside a scalextric hand controller, attaching on end to a sucker, affixing that to

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 12:39 04/04/2001 +0100, Martin Ling wrote: I received a 240V shock whilst still in the womb. Various people have made the obvious comic-book connections about my affinity for all things electronic I once got an electric shock off a stage lantern whilst 18ft up a ladder. The only reason

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:06:13AM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: *grin* That sounds like an evil flan. Mmm... flan... -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ A feature is often a bug with seniority.- Chip Salzenberg

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Redvers Davies
We once had a nuts teacher at school who let some 12-year-old kid (whose dad Pah, I was allowed to bring my 12 bore shotgun into school for a presentation for gcse english. They just asked that I didn't bring in any amunition with it ;) In the end I brought in live ammunition and no shotgun

Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a camp fire, drinking and talking. --

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Clarke, Darren
Title: RE: Crazy Idea Greg came up with the excellent suggestion: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Dean
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 15:29 How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Andrew Bowman
From: David Cantrell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Why the hell not. The farm which I believe Greg has in mind (www.middlefarm.com) also sells mead. Yum! And do they supply Butane canisters and matches too? ;-) Andrew.

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Richard Clamp
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Wistow
dcross - David Cross wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into ^^^ Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? /me suspects Dave may have been kidnapped

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Clarke, Darren ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg came up with the excellent suggestion: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: dcross - David Cross wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into ^^^ Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread AEF
Well, it /would/ give me an excuse to buy all that cool outdoor stuff I want (yes, of course I need that 200ukp sleeping bag...) On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Mmm. I shall bring Mr Pointy. All subject to FMD of course. I can probably be relied upon to bring a greater than

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Andrew Bowman
From: Simon Wistow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into ^^^ Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? /me suspects Dave may have

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 15:29 03/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Richard Clamp
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 04:48:15PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Volunteers for a rescue party step forward. Do we get guns, lots of guns? -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Paul Mison
On 03/04/2001 at 16:40 +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Dean wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out I'll come if we can have marshmallows ;) Mmm. I shall bring Mr Pointy. All subject

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Dean
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 04:52:52PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to organise this London PM and the Labour

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 16:48 dcross - David Cross wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into ^^^ Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 16:53 * Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: dcross - David Cross wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Somebody wrote Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to organise this *shock* You used the 'o'

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, AEF wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Mmm. I shall bring Mr Pointy. All subject to FMD of course. I can probably be relied upon to bring a greater than strictly necessary collection of sharp edges. I have a pointy stick especially for the toasting

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Struan Donald
* at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said: From: Simon Wistow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into ^^^ Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread AEF
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Paul Mison wrote: http://www.openbritain.gov.uk/ Kewl. Is it GPL? Tony

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 16:40 On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Dean wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out I'll come if we can have marshmallows ;) Mmm. I shall bring Mr

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote: * at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said: Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM. well, that unstructured data is difficult tp parse :) Is dave cross written in Perl? MBM (thinks his visual parser algorithms are probably written in BASIC

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Rob Partington
In message D3AF8264E04FD311A18200508B12B1D5037C84AA@SRVLON20, dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave... [thing are getting strange, i'm starting to worry...] Should I call Mulder and Scully? -- rob partington % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://lynx.browser.org/

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mmm. I shall bring Mr Pointy. All subject to FMD of course. /me wonders if Lucy realises just how on-topic "Mr Pointy" is for this list. Oh, I do... L. "For puppies! And Christmas!"

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Struan Donald
* at 03/04 17:21 +0100 Matthew Byng-Maddick said: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote: * at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said: Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM. well, that unstructured data is difficult tp parse :) Is dave cross written in Perl? well no[1] but

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Rob Partington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 17:24 In message D3AF8264E04FD311A18200508B12B1D5037C84AA@SRVLON20, dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave... [thing are getting strange, i'm starting to worry...] Should I call Mulder and Scully? Was trying to

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cool, it may even spur me into getting the van a little more habitable than it currently is. Uh, oh. Locked in a barn with a van, some welding gear and assorted bits of steel... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org

RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote: Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? maybe ... do the words 'I have my own field' mean anything to you ;) -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:21:48PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: Is dave cross written in Perl? "Dave Cross Munging with Perl" ISAGN. -- Only two things are infinite: the universe and human ignorance. -A. Einstein

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread David H. Adler
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 04:47:02PM +0100, Andrew Bowman wrote: Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM. "Worse"? You haven't seen those Alyson Hannigan pictures, have you? :-) dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "If it's not Jewish, it's

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday),

The Open Constitution Project (was Re: Crazy Idea)

2001-04-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, AEF wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Paul Mison wrote: http://www.openbritain.gov.uk/ Kewl. Is it GPL? OK. SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of the entire UK law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge and then announce the project on slashdot

Re: The Open Constitution Project (was Re: Crazy Idea)

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:56:25PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: OK. SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of the entire UK law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge and then announce the project on slashdot Bizarrely enough, I'm involved a project to do something

Re: The Open Constitution Project (was Re: Crazy Idea)

2001-04-03 Thread Roger Horne
On Tue 03 Apr, Jonathan Stowe wrote: OK. SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of the entire UK law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge and then announce the project on slashdot Why me ... ? (Quite a bit is getting onto http://www.bailii.org , run by the

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Paul Mison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Anyway, this fails on the 'crazy' test unless dawn til dusk walks are included as part of a healthy regime. thats where our definitions of crazy differ, for instance i think its fairly crazy to drag a pile of london.pm'ers into a forest, get them

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Somebody wrote Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban to be lifted was less than the time required for

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote: Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? maybe ... do the words 'I have my own field' mean anything to you ;) yip, but its probably not near sussex and you really don't want a 5 ft

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 15:29 03/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
* dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Don't the merkans do something like this (the camping, not the FM)? They call it "Camp Camel" - which always brings strange pictures to my mind... they just don't do these things right, half their organisation efforts will concentrate on

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, AEF wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Mmm. I shall bring Mr Pointy. All subject to FMD of course. I can probably be relied upon to bring a greater than strictly necessary collection of sharp edges.

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Alex Page
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then