Re: The Open Constitution Project (was Re: Crazy Idea)

2001-04-04 Thread Philip Newton

Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 OK.  SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of 
 the entire UK law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge
 and then announce the project on slashdot 

Hm, checkout the US Bill of Rights, edit the First Amendment to include
"free speech but no permission to send spam" and cvs update -- and spammers
will have to think of a different disclaimer.

This has potential.

Cheers,
Philip
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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick

On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote:
   Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
  maybe ...
  do the words 'I have my own field' mean anything to you ;)
 yip, but its probably not near sussex and you really don't
 want a 5 ft radius circle of charcoal left in it

Ah but would it have charcoal. That would - after all - mean we're not
burning things properly... :) Greg, you've lost your touch if you're only
producing charcoal. You need to be vapourising things... erm.

MBM

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Simon Wilcox

At 02:38 04/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  Count me in. I have a tent and everything !
 

any you have the ``right'' attitude when it comes to beer and
explosives

I used to use theatrical maroons (explosives with electrical detonators) to 
blow up bits of the garden.

They made very effective mines to destroy Action Men too.

Admittedly I was only 10 at the time but I think that counts as the "right" 
attitude ;-)

Simon.




Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Lucy McWilliam


On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 * Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  *shock*
  You used the 'o' word.

 its ok, we can do the organisation as long as we have the
 greg school of organisation in play, it will basically mean
 agreeing with Dave Can. when he can take his `people carrier'
 to sussex - the announcing the weekend in advance and 
 refusing to change it.

*grin*  That sounds like an evil flan.


L.
"Death cannot stop true love. It can only delay it for a while."




Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick

On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Simon Wilcox wrote:
 At 02:38 04/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   Count me in. I have a tent and everything !
 any you have the ``right'' attitude when it comes to beer and
 explosives
 I used to use theatrical maroons (explosives with electrical detonators) to 
 blow up bits of the garden.
 They made very effective mines to destroy Action Men too.
 Admittedly I was only 10 at the time but I think that counts as the "right" 
 attitude ;-)

.. And you seemed so normal when I met you 

MBM

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Wed, 04 Apr 2001, you wrote:
 * Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote:
  
   
   Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
   
  
  maybe ...
  
  do the words 'I have my own field' mean anything to you ;)

true .. it is no where vaguely near sussex .. and I dont sell beer ... or
cider. 

 yip, but its probably not near sussex and you really don't
 want a 5 ft radius circle of charcoal left in it

it would go nicely with the 20 foot circle from the lorry load of pallets
we set fire to on Nov 5th :)

it has been known for the fire brigade to turn up on bonfire night as the
people down in the village  cant really believe anyone would light a
bionfire _that_ big ;)

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Wed, 04 Apr 2001, you wrote:
 At 02:38 04/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
   Count me in. I have a tent and everything !
  
 
 any you have the ``right'' attitude when it comes to beer and
 explosives
 
 I used to use theatrical maroons (explosives with electrical detonators) to 
 blow up bits of the garden.
 
 They made very effective mines to destroy Action Men too.
 
 Admittedly I was only 10 at the time but I think that counts as the "right" 
 attitude ;-)

for future refernce ... 

1) LeMaitre make some very big marroons for stage use.
2) it says they need to be in some form of container when they go off.
3) do NOT use those funny square dustbin/ashtray things (with the two
flaps of steel as a lid) as the container (see [2] above)
4) the lids on [3] are, apparently, not attached very well.
5) Members of the public attending an event do not take kindly to being
whisked off to hospital to have lumps of metal removed from their legs.

I tell you this to help you avoid long chats with staff from the local
HSE and insurance comapanies, neither of whom seem to have much 'sense of
fun' in these matters ...

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So I installed Linux!



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Roger Burton West

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:38:44AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

any you have the ``right'' attitude when it comes to beer and
explosives

http://firedrake.org/roger/fireworks/

'nuff said.

R



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 11:05:17PM -0400, Alex Page wrote:
 
 But where would we find a camping ground with a fast net connection
 and wireless LAN connections?

The bit of park that the Laurie bros' consume nodes cover?


Martin



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Simon Wilcox

At 11:12 04/04/2001 +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:38:44AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 any you have the ``right'' attitude when it comes to beer and
 explosives

http://firedrake.org/roger/fireworks/

ooh, ahh !





RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Simon Batistoni


 Subject: Re: Crazy Idea
 marroons

We once had a nuts teacher at school who let some 12-year-old kid (whose dad
was a pyrotechnics expert) bring some of these in for a war scene in a
production. I don't know whether they were made by LeMaitre, but the large
ones were 10 inches long, with a 3 inch diameter. 2 nights out of 3, they
caught fire after exploding, and had to be stamped on by yours truly (I was
wearing combat boots, fortunately).

We then stole one of the largest ones, wedged it in a fence in the
village/housing estate crossbreed where I grew up, wrapped a large amount of
paper tape around the end, and set fire to it.

The electrical fuse rigups are supposed to control the detonation somewhat.
Setting fire to the end doesn't.

The explosion was heard at least 1/2 a mile away, and the police attended
the scene, where they were puzzled by the fence containing a large hole, and
the bits of paper and other unidentifed stuff from the casing, which was
littered everywhere like confetti.

We wanted to steal another one and put it in a dustbin, but we only just got
away with covering the first theft by judicious lying...





Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Simon Wilcox

At 09:50 04/04/2001 +, Robin Szemeti wrote:

1) LeMaitre make some very big marroons for stage use.

The very brand :-)

2) it says they need to be in some form of container when they go off.

Nah. Bury them in sand for realistic WWII FX. Mwahahahaha

3) do NOT use those funny square dustbin/ashtray things (with the two
flaps of steel as a lid) as the container (see [2] above)
4) the lids on [3] are, apparently, not attached very well.

Indeed they are not. I remember that happening to me in a production I once 
worked on.

5) Members of the public attending an event do not take kindly to being
whisked off to hospital to have lumps of metal removed from their legs.

Luckily it only did minor damage to the backstage area.

I tell you this to help you avoid long chats with staff from the local
HSE and insurance comapanies, neither of whom seem to have much 'sense of
fun' in these matters ...

Miserable lot I always find but not as bad as the jobsworth fire brigade 
fire safety inspection officers I've come across.




Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Chris Heathcote

on 4/4/01 11:27 am, Simon Wilcox wrote:

 Luckily it only did minor damage to the backstage area.

I bought a supply of various flashes and explosions, but did not have a
firing box. 

Using the switch on a 4 way extension block (with a number of mains plugs to
croc clips) is probably not the safest way to fire them.

c.
(who also used to cut live mains cables with secateurs, for fun)
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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Simon Wilcox

At 11:33 04/04/2001 +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote:
on 4/4/01 11:27 am, Simon Wilcox wrote:

  Luckily it only did minor damage to the backstage area.

I bought a supply of various flashes and explosions, but did not have a
firing box.

Using the switch on a 4 way extension block (with a number of mains plugs to
croc clips) is probably not the safest way to fire them.

I'll bet it worked a treat though !

c.
(who also used to cut live mains cables with secateurs, for fun)

Which reminds me of the time someone shorted out a mains socket with a 
paper clip "to see what happened".

Scared the hell out of the teacher :-)

Ahh, the old days. Nostalgia isn't what it used to be..




Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Neil Ford

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 11:53:09AM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote:
 At 11:33 04/04/2001 +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote:
 on 4/4/01 11:27 am, Simon Wilcox wrote:
 
 c.
 (who also used to cut live mains cables with secateurs, for fun)
 
 Which reminds me of the time someone shorted out a mains socket with a 
 paper clip "to see what happened".
 
 Scared the hell out of the teacher :-)
 
 Ahh, the old days. Nostalgia isn't what it used to be..
 
Or the case of taking the wire from inside a scalextric hand controller,
attaching on end to a sucker, affixing that to one side of a door frame,
stretching across to make a trip wire and being short of something to anchor
it with the other side, wrapping the remaining wire around the pins of a mains
plug and pluging it in!

Apparantly I was discovered on the other side of the room imbeded in a
wardrobe. :-)

Neil.
(who knows better now)



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Martin Ling

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:12:56PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
  
  Which reminds me of the time someone shorted out a mains socket with a 
  paper clip "to see what happened".
 
 Or the case of taking the wire from inside a scalextric hand controller,
 attaching on end to a sucker, affixing that to one side of a door frame,
 stretching across to make a trip wire and being short of something to anchor
 it with the other side, wrapping the remaining wire around the pins of a mains
 plug and pluging it in!
 
 Apparantly I was discovered on the other side of the room imbeded in a
 wardrobe. :-)

I received a 240V shock whilst still in the womb. Various people have
made the obvious comic-book connections about my affinity for all things
electronic


Martin



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Simon Wilcox

At 12:39 04/04/2001 +0100, Martin Ling wrote:

I received a 240V shock whilst still in the womb. Various people have
made the obvious comic-book connections about my affinity for all things
electronic

I once got an electric shock off a stage lantern whilst 18ft up a ladder.

The only reason I'm still here is that the ladder jammed against the 
ceiling as I toppled backwards.

Otherwise it would have been a messy end on the rows of seats below me.

Some say that would have been a Good Thing (tm)





Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:06:13AM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
 
 *grin*  That sounds like an evil flan.

Mmm... flan...

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-04 Thread Redvers Davies

 We once had a nuts teacher at school who let some 12-year-old kid (whose dad

Pah, I was allowed to bring my 12 bore shotgun into school for a presentation
for gcse english.  They just asked that I didn't bring in any amunition with
it ;)

In the end I brought in live ammunition and no shotgun as there were 
questions as to whether the school bus would let me on.

Red



Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll



How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
camp fire, drinking and talking.



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RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Clarke, Darren
Title: RE: Crazy Idea





Greg came up with the excellent suggestion:


How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
camp fire, drinking and talking.


Is the cider compulsory or can other fermented fruit|vegetable|grain products be imbibed?


Either way I would be up for it!


I shall have to brush up on my ghost stories :¬)


Darren Clarke
Padawan (which is what I meant earlier when I wrote padouin...)





Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Dean

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
 to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
 vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
 shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
 camp fire, drinking and talking.

Cool idea.

I'll come if we can have marshmallows ;)

Dean
-- 
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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread David Cantrell

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
 to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
 vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
 shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
 camp fire, drinking and talking.

Why the hell not.  The farm which I believe Greg has in mind
(www.middlefarm.com) also sells mead.  Yum!

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam


On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
 to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
 vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
 shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
 camp fire, drinking and talking.

That *is* a mad idea.  I like it.  Muahahaha.


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RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 April 2001 15:29

 How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
 to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
 vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
 shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
 camp fire, drinking and talking.

Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?

Dave...

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RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Andrew Bowman

 From: David Cantrell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Why the hell not.  The farm which I believe Greg has in mind
 (www.middlefarm.com) also sells mead.  Yum!

And do they supply Butane canisters and matches too? ;-)

Andrew.




Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Richard Clamp

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 
 How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
 to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
 vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
 shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
 camp fire, drinking and talking.

Cool, it may even spur me into getting the van a little more habitable
than it currently is.

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Wistow

dcross - David Cross wrote:

  How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
  to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
^^^ 
 Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?

/me suspects Dave may have been kidnapped and replaced by a dozier, evil
replacement.

Volunteers for a rescue party step forward.



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Clarke, Darren ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
Greg came up with the excellent suggestion:

How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
camp fire, drinking and talking.

Is the cider compulsory or can other fermented fruit|vegetable|grain
products be imbibed?


they also do some great organic beer, of course you bring whatever
you like anyway

I shall have to brush up on my ghost stories :)


i've got a great one, it starts out with a monster attacking
a gypsy campsite and killing all but a few, however they place
a curse on him, which means he has an conscience .

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 dcross - David Cross wrote:
 
   How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
   to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
 ^^^ 
  Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
 

i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban
to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to
organise this


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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread AEF


 Well, it /would/ give me an excuse to buy all that cool outdoor stuff I
want (yes, of course I need that 200ukp sleeping bag...)

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:

 Mmm.  I shall bring Mr Pointy.  All subject to FMD of course.

 I can probably be relied upon to bring a greater than strictly necessary
collection of sharp edges.

 Tony




RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Andrew Bowman

 From: Simon Wistow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
 to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
 ^^^ 
 Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?

 /me suspects Dave may have been kidnapped and replaced by a dozier, evil
 replacement.

Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM.

Andrew.




Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Wilcox

At 15:29 03/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:


How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
camp fire, drinking and talking.


Count me in. I have a tent and everything !

Simon.




Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Richard Clamp

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 04:48:15PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
 
 Volunteers for a rescue party step forward.

Do we get guns, lots of guns?

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Paul Mison

On 03/04/2001 at 16:40 +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Dean wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out

 I'll come if we can have marshmallows ;)

Mmm.  I shall bring Mr Pointy.  All subject to FMD of course.

'Britain is open for business. That means you can visit cities, towns,
villages and thousands of places all over the country just as you have
always done, and more places are opening each day. A day out, or a
weekend break, or a longer holiday can still be enormous fun, and just
as relaxing as it ever was.'

http://www.openbritain.gov.uk/

Anyway, this fails on the 'crazy' test unless dawn til dusk walks are
included as part of a healthy regime.

--
:: paul
:: how fickle fate can be





Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Dean

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 04:52:52PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
   Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
 
 i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban
 to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to
 organise this

London PM and the Labour govenernment... which will act first?
Irresistible force meets immovable object ;)

Dean
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   --- Anon



RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 April 2001 16:48

 dcross - David Cross wrote:
 
   How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
   to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
 ^^^ 
  Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
 
 /me suspects Dave may have been kidnapped and replaced by a dozier, evil
 replacement.

/me misparsed that completely as "FHM issue".

I have no excuse.

 Volunteers for a rescue party step forward.

Please!

Dave...
[thing are getting strange, i'm starting to worry...]

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RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 April 2001 16:53

 * Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  dcross - David Cross wrote:
  
How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
  ^^^ 
   Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
 
 i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban
 to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to
 organise this

Of course. Fair point. This should be organised about the time of the _next_
foot  mouth outbreak :)

Don't the merkans do something like this (the camping, not the FM)? They
call it "Camp Camel" - which always brings strange pictures to my mind...

Dave...

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam


On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 * Somebody wrote
   Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?

 i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban
 to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to
 organise this

*shock*
You used the 'o' word.


L.
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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam


On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, AEF wrote:

 On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
  Mmm.  I shall bring Mr Pointy.  All subject to FMD of course.
 
  I can probably be relied upon to bring a greater than strictly necessary
 collection of sharp edges.

I have a pointy stick especially for the toasting of marshmallows.  I kid
you not.


L.
"Bring your haddock to the paddock."




Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Struan Donald

* at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said:
  From:   Simon Wistow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
  to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
  ^^^ 
  Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
 
  /me suspects Dave may have been kidnapped and replaced by a dozier, evil
  replacement.
 
 Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM.

well, that unstructured data is difficult tp parse :)

struan



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread AEF



On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Paul Mison wrote:

 http://www.openbritain.gov.uk/

 Kewl. Is it GPL?

 Tony




RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 April 2001 16:40

 On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Dean wrote:
 
  On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
   How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out
 
  I'll come if we can have marshmallows ;)
 
 Mmm.  I shall bring Mr Pointy.  All subject to FMD of course.

/me wonders if Lucy realises just how on-topic "Mr Pointy" is for this list.

Dave...

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote:
 * at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said:
  Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM.
 well, that unstructured data is difficult tp parse :)

Is dave cross written in Perl?

MBM (thinks his visual parser algorithms are probably written in BASIC :( )

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Rob Partington

In message D3AF8264E04FD311A18200508B12B1D5037C84AA@SRVLON20,
dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Dave...
 [thing are getting strange, i'm starting to worry...]

Should I call Mulder and Scully?
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RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam


On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:

 From: Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Mmm.  I shall bring Mr Pointy.  All subject to FMD of course.
 
 /me wonders if Lucy realises just how on-topic "Mr Pointy" is for this list.

Oh, I do...


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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Struan Donald

* at 03/04 17:21 +0100 Matthew Byng-Maddick said:
 On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote:
  * at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said:
   Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM.
  well, that unstructured data is difficult tp parse :)
 
 Is dave cross written in Perl?

well no[1] but if it's hard to parse in perl...

s

[1] not that i have any evidence one way or the other...



RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Rob Partington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 April 2001 17:24

 In message D3AF8264E04FD311A18200508B12B1D5037C84AA@SRVLON20,
 dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Dave...
  [thing are getting strange, i'm starting to worry...]
 
 Should I call Mulder and Scully?

Was trying to think of updated lyrics to this over the weekend.

Things are getting strange, I'm starting to forget.
This could be a case for Scully and Doggett.


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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Cool, it may even spur me into getting the van a little more habitable
 than it currently is.

Uh, oh. Locked in a barn with a van, some welding gear and assorted
bits of steel...

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RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote:

 
 Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
 

maybe ...

do the words 'I have my own field' mean anything to you ;)

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Cozens

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:21:48PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
 Is dave cross written in Perl?

"Dave Cross Munging with Perl"

ISAGN.

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 04:47:02PM +0100, Andrew Bowman wrote:
 
 Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM.

"Worse"?  You haven't seen those Alyson Hannigan pictures, have you?
:-)

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe



On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, David Cantrell wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

  How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
  to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
  vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
  shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
  camp fire, drinking and talking.

 Why the hell not.  The farm which I believe Greg has in mind
 (www.middlefarm.com) also sells mead.  Yum!


Ah, Middle Farm . this sounds like an idea - and its in the same
county as me :)

/J\




The Open Constitution Project (was Re: Crazy Idea)

2001-04-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, AEF wrote:


 On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Paul Mison wrote:

  http://www.openbritain.gov.uk/

  Kewl. Is it GPL?


OK.  SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of the entire UK
law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge and then announce the
project on slashdot 

I'm not entirely sure the GPL is adequate for licensing a Constitution but
who knows :)

/J\




Re: The Open Constitution Project (was Re: Crazy Idea)

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Cozens

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:56:25PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 OK.  SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of the entire UK
 law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge and then announce the
 project on slashdot 

Bizarrely enough, I'm involved a project to do something *similar* for the
Japanese code of laws...

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Re: The Open Constitution Project (was Re: Crazy Idea)

2001-04-03 Thread Roger Horne

On Tue 03 Apr, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 
 OK.  SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of the entire UK
 law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge and then announce the
 project on slashdot 

Why me ... ?

(Quite a bit is getting onto http://www.bailii.org , run by the Aussies,
although I am not convinced that their software is as good as they claim at
http://elj.warwick.ac.uk/jilt/LegInfo/97_2gree/default.htm )

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Paul Mison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 Anyway, this fails on the 'crazy' test unless dawn til dusk walks are
 included as part of a healthy regime.
 

thats where our definitions of crazy differ, for instance i think
its fairly crazy to drag a pile of london.pm'ers into a forest,
get them drunk and watch the chaos. your definition of crazy
involves straight jackets or joining the SDLP ;-)

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
  * Somebody wrote
Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
 
  i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban
  to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to
  organise this
 
 *shock*
 You used the 'o' word.
 

its ok, we can do the organisation as long as we have the
greg school of organisation in play, it will basically mean
agreeing with Dave Can. when he can take his `people carrier'
to sussex - the announcing the weekend in advance and 
refusing to change it.


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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote:
 
  
  Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
  
 
 maybe ...
 
 do the words 'I have my own field' mean anything to you ;)
 

yip, but its probably not near sussex and you really don't
want a 5 ft radius circle of charcoal left in it

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 At 15:29 03/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 
 How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
 to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
 vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
 shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
 camp fire, drinking and talking.
 
 
 Count me in. I have a tent and everything !
 

any you have the ``right'' attitude when it comes to beer and
explosives


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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 Don't the merkans do something like this (the camping, not the FM)? They
 call it "Camp Camel" - which always brings strange pictures to my mind...
 

they just don't do these things right, half their organisation efforts 
will concentrate on muffins as opposed to explosives


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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, AEF wrote:
 
  On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
   Mmm.  I shall bring Mr Pointy.  All subject to FMD of course.
  
   I can probably be relied upon to bring a greater than strictly necessary
  collection of sharp edges.
 
 I have a pointy stick especially for the toasting of marshmallows.  I kid
 you not.
 

ah, but do you have a point stick for speciality sausages from
the farm shop?

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Alex Page

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
 to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
 vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
 shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
 camp fire, drinking and talking.

But where would we find a camping ground with a fast net connection and wireless LAN 
connections?

Alex
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