Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit]
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Leon Brocard wrote: Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether: I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my reply? Embperl is entirely Apache and web based, which is good for some things and bad for some things, like having the template wotsit work orthogonally to everything else. And entirely impossible for a lot of the things that I am using TT for like creating printed documents and e-mail messages Add to that, generating mails to Nominet and Network (ack!) Solutions, data mapping templates and Oracle table definitions, constraints and triggers. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire -
Re: TT vs EmbPerl (was Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit])
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 10:33:30AM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On 30 Jan 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Add to that, generating mails to Nominet and Network (ack!) Solutions, Which is exactly what I was using it for yesterday :) Well except not Netowrk Solutions as we are using another registrar ... Interestingly .tv use gpg-signed messages sent over https... for all aspects of registration. They supply (slightly dodgy) perl modules as well. jp
Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit]
I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my reply? Dave... - Forwarded message from [snip] - Howdy, I'm curious why you prefer the TT to EmbPerl? It seems that the capabilities of TT are a strict subset of EmbPerl. Granted the syntax is arguably slightly easier at first than EmbPerl, it doesn't seem worth the lesser functionality and forcing of data manipulation in the calling space. We use EmbPerl extensively at DejaNews and taught the minimal amounts to all of the HTML folks designers and programmers. No one had any difficulty w/ '@' or '%' so much as the concept of an array or a hash. That is to say that no one had syntactic difficulties, just structural. So, it seems that if there is a movement to establish a module in the same ranks as LWP, CGI, DBI, XML::Parser and the like that it would be better as EmbedPerl than the Template Toolkit. Thoughts? Cheers, - End forwarded message - -- http://www.dave.org.uk | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit]
Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether: I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my reply? Embperl is entirely Apache and web based, which is good for some things and bad for some things, like having the template wotsit work orthogonally to everything else. They're about the same speed, as they both compile the templates to Perl, which they then evaluate. The Embperl compiler is in C, but in my tests this doesn't save you much as mostly you only compile templates once. While I'm at it, I looked at the TT2 compiler last week and it generates pretty damn good code pretty quickly indeed. Writing compilers to Perl rocks. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/ ... All generalizations are false, including this one
Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit]
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 09:31:30PM +, Leon Brocard wrote: I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my reply? Embperl is entirely Apache and web based, which is good for some things and bad for some things, like having the template wotsit work orthogonally to everything else. It's definately entirely web based, but I have cron jobs using embperl to generate html email that goes to various people without ever going near apache... Michael
Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit]
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Leon Brocard wrote: Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether: I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my reply? Embperl is entirely Apache and web based, which is good for some things and bad for some things, like having the template wotsit work orthogonally to everything else. And entirely impossible for a lot of the things that I am using TT for like creating printed documents and e-mail messages /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
