Re: Fwd: [ The state of TPJ]

2001-01-08 Thread Philip Newton

Dave Cross wrote:
 EarthWeb has also made it clear that they don't want to
 publish TPJ any more.

Hm, this brings back very strong memories of yapc::Europe. Specifically, the
pre-conference meet in Penderel's Oak, when I first met Kevin Lenzo. From
what I recall of the conversation, he said that YAS had a domain name they
could use (don't remember what) for a regular Perl publication should TPJ
ever die or get abused or something (turn into a
Earthweb-only/O'Reilly-only/you-name-it spokespiece, for example).

Does Kevin know about all this? I assume so.

Still wondering what will happen.


Re: Fwd: [ The state of TPJ]

2001-01-04 Thread Piers Cawley

Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 More on the TPJ saga.


Hmm... I wonder when I'm going to get my long term subscription


Fwd: [ The state of TPJ]

2001-01-02 Thread Dave Cross

More on the TPJ saga.


- Forwarded message from Jon Orwant [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:18:48 -0500

January 2, 2001

Some folks have been asking me about the status of The Perl
Journal #20, and prospective authors have been asking me
about deadlines for future issues.  The answers: TPJ #20 is
in press and ready to print, but EarthWeb (the owner of TPJ)
has told the printer to stop the presses until further
notice.  I am currently responding to proposals sent to me
with approximately "I don't know if there's going to be
another issue, but when I do I'll respond to your proposal."

Since the future of the magazine is in doubt, I can't in
good conscience greenlight proposals; I will not encourage
an author to spend weeks writing an article when I know that
it might never be printed.  So I've told people who've asked
what I know about the current situation: while EarthWeb has
sold many of its properties to so that it can
focus on "career services", it has not sold TPJ.  However,
EarthWeb has also made it clear that they don't want to
publish TPJ any more.

This story has started to leak out to the Perl community and
has already mutated a bit in not-quite-correct directions,
so I wanted to write this note to set the record straight.
Or as straight as I can, given what little I know about
EarthWeb's decisions.  

While TPJ's future is very much up in the air, people
shouldn't take this as any indicator about Perl itself.  
TPJ was doing just fine back when I ran it, there's no
shortage of content out there, and the magazine could easily
go bimonthly and then monthly -- indeed, when EarthWeb
acquired TPJ I had thought that was the plan.  I still enjoy
the editing, the authors enjoy the writing, and the 
designers enjoy the designing.  What happens now is up to
EarthWeb.  And no, I'm not suggesting that people bombard
them with email.  Heck, they just laid off 100 people, so
I'm not even sure who to bombard.  Eventually there will be
some resolution, and when there is I'll write again to let
everyone know.

As of December 27th, this matter is now in the courts, and
so I have to adopt the "just the facts" tone of this letter
without portraying my opinions.  Someday I'll be able to
talk more about what is happening in these strange days;
until then, you'll have to conjure up your own adjectives on
my behalf.


Jon Orwant

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