Re: Holy War
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, you wrote: Mandrake 7.2. All I'll say about mandrake is that we have a mandrake box at work and when you run printtool the cdrom ejects. I've been running Mandrake for a while (2 years?) now .. and it seems fine, its Dedrat really with the KDE desktop and a things added by the French .. but it generally installs straight out of the tin, has a choice of security settings for the paranoid etc. I never did find out what caused the pesky security checks to run at midnight when I was always trying to use the damm thing ... so got rid of the script and run tripwire from crontab once a day at a more useful hour. 'part from that its just fine. I run Dedrat 7.0 on my server at mailbox and having turned off all the dangeroos stuff and set up the IPCHAINS and put SSH on it its been totally reliable and unhacked. -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: Holy War
At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:33:57 +, Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On or about Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:29:18AM -0500, Dave Cross typed: So I'm looking for advice on the best distro to use. What are you planning to do on the box? It'll be purely for home use, so: * Hacking perl * Prototyping web sites * Playing with new toys like AxKit and Camelot * Write * Surf the web * Read mail * Play the occasional game * Listen to MPs * Burn CDs Sort of stuff we all do. Dave...
Re: Holy War
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Go for it. Give it your best shot. Mandrake 7.2. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire -
Re: Holy War
On or about Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:39:47AM -0500, Dave Cross typed: It'll be purely for home use, so: I'd use Debian 'cos I like it. Downside: latest versions of stuff aren't usually available as packages. Upside: doesn't mess you about the way the Windowsy distributions (RH, SuSE) do. R
Re: Holy War
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:29:18AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: So I'm looking for advice on the best distro to use. Bear in mind that the existing box will currently become a firewall/proxy box so I'll do all the paranoid security stuff on there. Go for it. Give it your best shot. Let battle commence. Debian. Or, if you want uber-paranoia, OpenBSD. Michael
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On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 04:02:01PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 03:58:41PM +, Richard Clamp typed: On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 03:44:42PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: I'd use Debian 'cos I like it. Downside: latest versions of stuff aren't usually available as packages. Untrue, if you're following the testing/unstable branch and have sufficient bandwidth that is. Depends on what you mean by "latest". Give it a week or two to get into unstable, a few more to get into testing - fair enough? Not what I'd use for CPAN modules, for example. And, of course, there's the obvious downside of following the unstable branch of anything... Michael
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What I do: For a workstation, Mandrake. For a server, Slackware. Once you've done the install forget that rpm existed and do everything from source. Red
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* at 19/01 16:12 + Redvers Davies said: All I'll say about mandrake is that we have a mandrake box at work and when you run printtool the cdrom ejects. You couldn't do an strace on that so we see what causes that could you? I would have thought a hardware conflict would be the most likely cause there... i'm not if the box still exists. i could have a look and see though... struan
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Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * at 19/01 14:44 + Dave Hodgkinson said: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Go for it. Give it your best shot. Mandrake 7.2. All I'll say about mandrake is that we have a mandrake box at work and when you run printtool the cdrom ejects. Nothing wrong with committing random acts of weirdness -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire -
Re: Holy War
* at 19/01 16:33 - Robert Shiels said: What are you planning to do on the box? It'll be purely for home use, so: * Hacking perl * Prototyping web sites * Playing with new toys like AxKit and Camelot * Write * Surf the web * Read mail * Play the occasional game * Listen to MPs * Burn CDs Apart from the games perhaps, I'm just wondering what a PIV1400Mhz will do that a PII350 wouldn't :-) What was your inner justification for getting such a monster machine Dave? that geek tendancy to get a farcially over powered machine 'cause they can? struan
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At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:33:40 -, "Robert Shiels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are you planning to do on the box? It'll be purely for home use, so: * Hacking perl * Prototyping web sites * Playing with new toys like AxKit and Camelot * Write * Surf the web * Read mail * Play the occasional game * Listen to MPs * Burn CDs Apart from the games perhaps, I'm just wondering what a PIV1400Mhz will do that a PII350 wouldn't :-) What was your inner justification for getting such a monster machine Dave? Seriously, my current machine is a PentiumPro 200 Mhz and that's getting so frustrating that I knew I needed a new machine and I always buy the fastest I can so it will last as long as possible. I'm just annoyed in that I quite recently bought a PIII866 with 256MbRAM [1], and I'm way behind in the game already g /Robert [1]upgraded my P166MMX 64MB RAM
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Seriously, my current machine is a PentiumPro 200 Mhz and that's getting so frustrating that I knew I needed a new machine and I always buy the fastest I can so it will last as long as possible. Was it a self-congratulations pressie for the publication of your book.
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From: "Michael Stevens" [EMAIL PROTECTED] And, of course, there's the obvious downside of following the unstable branch of anything... Except with Debian in my four years of using unstable I haven't had a single (serious) problem. The times when they've occasionally messed up dependencies I've simply left it 24hrs and tried again and someone's fixed it. Many, many eyeballs :-) I would, and do, use unstable for production boxes, although I also have a non-production box I run update/dist-upgrade first on. Paul
