In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Simon Wilcox
Good morning all, This is a plea for help. Here is the situation: Over the last year I have been building an intranet type site based on Linux/Apache/MySQL/mod_perl. This is delivered via the internet, suitably authenticated (mod_perl/LDAP) and encrypted (mod_ssl), as most of our 1,700

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Greg McCarroll
This is all fine but there is a big cloud. We have a new IT manager who wants to bring all development into one team and use a single toolset for web based applications. why dont you just track both projects for a while and get some results about the current productivity of both teams, say

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Dave Cross
At Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:12:47 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all fine but there is a big cloud. We have a new IT manager who wants to bring all development into one team and use a single toolset for web based applications. why dont you just track both projects

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 11:12 13/02/2001 +, you wrote: This is all fine but there is a big cloud. We have a new IT manager who wants to bring all development into one team and use a single toolset for web based applications. why dont you just track both projects for a while and get some results about the

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: this is the sort of analysis that IT managers should be good at Emphasis on *should* as opposed to *are* . /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk

RE: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Jonathan Peterson
This is a plea for help. Here is the situation: [situation snipped] My belief is that the LAMP type route provides a very cost effective, portable and scalable solution but I concede that bigger backends are needed for volume transaction systems. Funnily enough I am about half way through

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: this is the sort of analysis that IT managers should be good at Emphasis on *should* as opposed to *are* . hey i was trying to put it in a nice way -- Greg McCarroll

RE: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Ian Brayshaw
Is there any benchmarking available of salary bands for differing skills, i.e. are perl guys much more than ASP guys who can also do the other bits ? Any other arguments I should be making ! Yeah, Perl people cost more than ASP people and they're frickin impossible to find, and vary

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Neil Ford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This is a plea for help. Here is the situation: [situation snipped] My belief is that the LAMP type route provides a very cost effective, portable and scalable solution but I concede that bigger backends are needed for volume transaction

RE: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 11:48 13/02/2001 +, you wrote: [snip] As one of the requirements listed was content management you can through in the BBC, especially the interactive telly division. Heck, they even gave a presentation at YAPC::Europe. Does anyone know if that presentation is available online anywhere

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 11:48 13/02/2001 +, you wrote: [snip] As one of the requirements listed was content management you can through in the BBC, especially the interactive telly division. Heck, they even gave a presentation at YAPC::Europe. Does anyone

Re: In defence of Perl

2001-02-13 Thread James Powell
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 12:16:57PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: [snip] As one of the requirements listed was content management you can through in the BBC, especially the interactive telly division. Heck, they even gave a presentation at YAPC::Europe. they