Re: NY Invasion

2001-04-12 Thread Alex Page

On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 11:25:27AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:

 and we've tentatively pencilled in Thursday 26th April as a good date
 for us to show them how to drink.

Shit, and The Fall are playing Oxford then :-(

Alex
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Re: NY Invasion

2001-04-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 08:20:51AM -0400, Alex Page wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 11:25:27AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
 
  and we've tentatively pencilled in Thursday 26th April as a good date
  for us to show them how to drink.
 
 Shit, and The Fall are playing Oxford then :-(

But you're not coming, last I checked, so you can go see your silly
little band.  :-)

dha
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NY Invasion

2001-04-12 Thread dcross - David Cross


Those of you embarking on the invasion of New York in a couple of weeks time
will no doubt be pleased to know that I've established contact with the
leader of the New York Perl Mongers (one David H Adler) and we've
tentatively pencilled in Thursday 26th April as a good date for us to show
them how to drink.

Dave...

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Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-13 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Mike Jarvis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Piers Cawley wrote:
 
   Hmm. I assume group is cheaper, though. Well, of the list, I'd be
   surprised if that many dropped out, and I had stupidly forgotten Grep's
   interest, so that takes us up to 12. Which may be enough to guarantee a
   group. Aah, tricksy.
 
  Am I down as interested? If not, I am. Am I down as interesting? Er...
 
 I'll be taking the Accela up to see you guys.
 
 When looking at cost, remember what hotel rates in NYC are like (almost as
 bad as London).  You can easily pay US$250/night for a room that you would
 swear is in a crack house.
 

but american hotels are so much better ... they have those giant 3-person
size beds, almost all of them have minibars, decent showers and the staff
give something those strange american chappies call ``customer service'',
that would never catch on in the uk, oh no - we like to be treated like
shit and squeezed into a single bed, needing to get up at some ridiculous
time in the middle of the night just to guarantee warm water for the
shower


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Re: Forwarded : ChineseWall Job External Mail Re: Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-13 Thread Simon Wilcox

At 09:15 13/02/2001 +, you wrote:

three guesses what happened when i forward its own message containing the sh*t
word to the list ;-)


Ok, ok, I'm sorry !

Yet another piece of junk from our mail admin team. The irony being that 
they deliver it anyway !

Having now got this nice new email address finally working, I have 
unsubscribed my work email from the list.

Hopefully that will stop this sort of rubbish.

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Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-13 Thread Steve Purkis

Mike Jarvis wrote:
 
 David H. Adler wrote:
  On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 04:32:08PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
  
   When looking at cost, remember what hotel rates in NYC are like
  (almost as
   bad as London).  You can easily pay US$250/night for a room
  that you would
   swear is in a crack house.
 
  But the crack is *great*!
 
 Rooms actually in a crack house will be significantly more expensive.

Depends - sometimes they don't charge you at all!
(if you're selling alot of crack, say)

It's the whorehouses that are always expensive.

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Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-13 Thread James Powell

On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 08:48:36AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * Mike Jarvis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  Piers Cawley wrote:
  
   [snip]
 
 but american hotels are so much better ... they have those giant 3-person
 size beds, almost all of them have minibars, decent showers and the staff
 give something those strange american chappies call ``customer service'',
 that would never catch on in the uk, oh no - we like to be treated like
 shit and squeezed into a single bed, needing to get up at some ridiculous
 time in the middle of the night just to guarantee warm water for the
 shower
 

If you want excellent customer service, I can really, really recommend
the Mandarin Oriental in Hong Kong. Not very handy for Manhattan though
(although I see they have one opening in 2003).


jp



Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread Paul Mison

On 12/02/2001 at 18:55 +, David H. Adler wrote:
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 05:44:04PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 talking of organisational skills, dave (ad) how would you fancy
 being a london.pm organiser for the london.pm trip to ny.pm?

 we seem to have problems getting anyone to take this to
 completion

Well, what dates do you want to look at?  That's probably the best
starting point.  After that, we can start talking about options.

Ok, this is me semi-formally being stupid and taking this on. Although
if Simon wants to stand by

If not I'll have  a crack at doing it. Or doing it jointly. Or whatever.
[who has a vested interest in getting this done fast]

I'll welcome the help.

My ideal for dates would be either side of Easter, but fairly obviously
not Easter itself. Leon suggested in the pub [0] 5 days is the optimum
length, and I gather that would be over a Saturday for airfare reasons,
so how about (rummage, cal) Wed 25 April - Mon 30 April? Either that,
or the same days a week later.

We could go for Wed 28 March to Mon 2 April instead; comments?

Greg, if you send me the list of names and addresses I'd be chuffed.
(Anyone who didn't email Greg, let me know).

Given that sort of info, how much is this likely to cost? Dave? Dave?
Dave? Bueller?

[0] Where else? (Oh yeah, drugs are bad, m'kay?)

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Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread Greg McCarroll

 Greg, if you send me the list of names and addresses I'd be chuffed.
 (Anyone who didn't email Greg, let me know).
 

done in a few seconds

 Given that sort of info, how much is this likely to cost? Dave? Dave?
 Dave? Bueller?
 

there is not enough of `Bueller'-ing on this list

 [0] Where else? (Oh yeah, drugs are bad, m'kay?)

classic post pall, a bit of `Bueller'-ing followed by an m'kay

wonderful stuff,

Greg

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Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 07:15:59PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
 
 We could go for Wed 28 March to Mon 2 April instead; comments?
 
 Greg, if you send me the list of names and addresses I'd be chuffed.
 (Anyone who didn't email Greg, let me know).
 
 Given that sort of info, how much is this likely to cost? Dave? Dave?
 Dave? Bueller?

Well, now that you have something to work with, I can get the querying
in motion...

About how many people are we talking about?  Any idea?

dha
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Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 07:15:59PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
  
  We could go for Wed 28 March to Mon 2 April instead; comments?
  
  Greg, if you send me the list of names and addresses I'd be chuffed.
  (Anyone who didn't email Greg, let me know).
  
  Given that sort of info, how much is this likely to cost? Dave? Dave?
  Dave? Bueller?
 
 Well, now that you have something to work with, I can get the querying
 in motion...
 
 About how many people are we talking about?  Any idea?
 

i just sent a list of about 8~10 people ( i think )


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Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread Simon Wistow

Paul Mison wrote:

 I'll welcome the help.

Consider this me co-volunteering then.
 
 
 We could go for Wed 28 March to Mon 2 April instead; comments?

London.pm does April Fools' in NY. Hmm. Distinct possibilities. Means I
skip the flight home to go see my Dad on his birthday (also April 1 -
explains a lot) but hey ho.

Simon



Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread Paul Mison

On 12/02/2001 at 19:36 +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Well, now that you have something to work with, I can get the querying
 in motion...

 About how many people are we talking about?  Any idea?

i just sent a list of about 8~10 people ( i think )

Yeah, 10 +- usual errors (people who didn't know and have changed their
minds, people running out of cash, etc, etc).

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:: they come at you with smiles





Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Paul Mison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 Yeah, 10 +- usual errors (people who didn't know and have changed their
 minds, people running out of cash, etc, etc).
 

there is even someone saying that they are hoping to get Oven to send
them to NY at some stage ;-)

Greg

(remember Ron and I may be up for the trip once some other
variables fall into place)

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Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread David Cantrell

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 07:50:32PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 there is even someone saying that they are hoping to get Oven to send
 them to NY at some stage ;-)

I think you're confusing us with the armed posse going over the Oven NY to
demand their money.  Oh, hang on, some of us *are* that posse.

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Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 07:37:14PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
 On 12/02/2001 at 19:36 +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  Well, now that you have something to work with, I can get the querying
  in motion...
 
  About how many people are we talking about?  Any idea?
 
 i just sent a list of about 8~10 people ( i think )
 
 Yeah, 10 +- usual errors (people who didn't know and have changed their
 minds, people running out of cash, etc, etc).

FWIW, 10 is commonly the minimum for a "group".  A group rate isn't the
only way to go, but it's one option...

dha
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Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread Paul Mison

On 12/02/2001 at 19:59 +, David H. Adler wrote:
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 07:37:14PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
 On 12/02/2001 at 19:36 +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  Well, now that you have something to work with, I can get the
querying
  in motion...
 
  About how many people are we talking about?  Any idea?
 
 i just sent a list of about 8~10 people ( i think )

 Yeah, 10 +- usual errors (people who didn't know and have changed their
 minds, people running out of cash, etc, etc).

FWIW, 10 is commonly the minimum for a "group".  A group rate isn't the
only way to go, but it's one option...

Hmm. I assume group is cheaper, though. Well, of the list, I'd be
surprised if that many dropped out, and I had stupidly forgotten Grep's
interest, so that takes us up to 12. Which may be enough to guarantee a
group. Aah, tricksy.

How much work is it to look at both options?

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:: join us in creating excellence





Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread Piers Cawley

Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 12/02/2001 at 19:59 +, David H. Adler wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 07:37:14PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
  On 12/02/2001 at 19:36 +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
   David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
   Well, now that you have something to work with, I can get the
 querying
   in motion...
  
   About how many people are we talking about?  Any idea?
  
  i just sent a list of about 8~10 people ( i think )
 
  Yeah, 10 +- usual errors (people who didn't know and have changed their
  minds, people running out of cash, etc, etc).
 
 FWIW, 10 is commonly the minimum for a "group".  A group rate isn't the
 only way to go, but it's one option...
 
 Hmm. I assume group is cheaper, though. Well, of the list, I'd be
 surprised if that many dropped out, and I had stupidly forgotten Grep's
 interest, so that takes us up to 12. Which may be enough to guarantee a
 group. Aah, tricksy.

Am I down as interested? If not, I am. Am I down as interesting? Er...

-- 
Piers




Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 08:18:26PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
 On 12/02/2001 at 19:59 +, David H. Adler wrote:
 FWIW, 10 is commonly the minimum for a "group".  A group rate isn't the
 only way to go, but it's one option...
 
 Hmm. I assume group is cheaper, though. 

You'd be surprised...

 How much work is it to look at both options?

The real work involved is getting mom off the phone long enough to tell
her about it. :-)

dha
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RE: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread Mike Jarvis

Piers Cawley wrote:

  Hmm. I assume group is cheaper, though. Well, of the list, I'd be
  surprised if that many dropped out, and I had stupidly forgotten Grep's
  interest, so that takes us up to 12. Which may be enough to guarantee a
  group. Aah, tricksy.

 Am I down as interested? If not, I am. Am I down as interesting? Er...

I'll be taking the Accela up to see you guys.

When looking at cost, remember what hotel rates in NYC are like (almost as
bad as London).  You can easily pay US$250/night for a room that you would
swear is in a crack house.

I know a few places that are decent and resonable.   Whoever is playing
Julie the cruise director can contact me off list for recommendations.

Airfares are pretty good right now.  A colleague of mine got a round trip
NY-London for US$400 with only 7 day advance on Virgin.  That was economy
class, but even economy class on Virgin is pretty good. My round trip train
fare from Washington will run me about $280.

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 04:32:08PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
 
 When looking at cost, remember what hotel rates in NYC are like (almost as
 bad as London).  You can easily pay US$250/night for a room that you would
 swear is in a crack house.

But the crack is *great*!

:-)

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telling people at large how to speak.   - Larry Wall



Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 04:36:56PM -0500, David H. Adler wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 04:32:08PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
  
  When looking at cost, remember what hotel rates in NYC are like (almost as
  bad as London).  You can easily pay US$250/night for a room that you would
  swear is in a crack house.
 
 But the crack is *great*!

Not to mention, er, more traditional forms of paid-for entertainment.

Paul, referring to pay-per-sc^H^Hview



RE: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread Mike Jarvis

David H. Adler wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 04:32:08PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
  
  When looking at cost, remember what hotel rates in NYC are like 
 (almost as
  bad as London).  You can easily pay US$250/night for a room 
 that you would
  swear is in a crack house.
 
 But the crack is *great*!

Rooms actually in a crack house will be significantly more expensive.


-- 
mike




Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread Piers Cawley

"Mike Jarvis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 David H. Adler wrote:
  On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 04:32:08PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
   
   When looking at cost, remember what hotel rates in NYC are like 
  (almost as
   bad as London).  You can easily pay US$250/night for a room 
  that you would
   swear is in a crack house.
  
  But the crack is *great*!
 
 Rooms actually in a crack house will be significantly more
 expensive.

But possibly safer too...