Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton

Dave Cross [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
*>Data Munging with Perl
*>by David Cross
*>
*>Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760
*>
*>Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!


http://cpan.valueclick.com/authors/id/TOMC/scripts/ contains 'amarank'
which is a script you can use to feed the obsession :) It's old but it
should still work.

e.



Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Tony Bowden

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 02:23:20PM +, James Powell wrote:
> WHSmith's www.bookshop.co.uk is good for this as they are incapable
> of storing orders so have to send each book when they get it (so you
> can end up with deliveries on subsequent days).

I weas reading a Boxman obituary earlier
(http://europe.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,14363,00.html?mail)
and one of the things that it said was the Boxman's (hugely expensive
IBM) system wasn't capable of *billing* you until everything had shipped,
although they would quite happily ship the individual items one by one  ;)

Quite a scary story actually...

Tony
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Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Robert Shiels

> On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:56:24PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
> > Didn't the case of 'A Fist In the Bush' prove that Amazon's "Sales"
> > rankings are actually down to how many people look at things?
>
> Wasn't that more to do with the "people who like like also like *this*"
> rankings that the actual sales ranks, which they claim are actually
> based on sales, and not even on who's paid them most?
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201615711/ref=sim_books/107-8558793-
5982946

gives Lincoln Steins rank as 11.

What does this mean then, it's hardly going to be the 11th most popular book
on Amazon, maybe it's the 11th most popular Perl book. How would you feel
being number 760 in that list Dave :-)

/Robert




Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread James Powell

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:42:24PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> On or about Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:39:08PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
> 
> >Now if they'd just actually send me the copy I ordered...
> >(I think they said 3-5 weeks)
> 
> Ditto. It's one of the 9 things remaining before they ship my latest
> order.
> 
> Roger

WHSmith's www.bookshop.co.uk is good for this as they are incapable
of storing orders so have to send each book when they get it (so you
can end up with deliveries on subsequent days).

They're also pretty competitive with Amazon.


jp



Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Tony Bowden

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:56:24PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
> Didn't the case of 'A Fist In the Bush' prove that Amazon's "Sales"
> rankings are actually down to how many people look at things?

Wasn't that more to do with the "people who like like also like *this*"
rankings that the actual sales ranks, which they claim are actually
based on sales, and not even on who's paid them most?

Tony
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  don't you know how hard it is to hit the ground and mean it 
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Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Michael Stevens

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 08:52:02AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> > Now if they'd just actually send me the copy I ordered...
> > (I think they said 3-5 weeks)
> Did you order it from amazon.co.uk? amazon.com have it stock and are
> sending it out now. It'll be another couple of weeks before it hits
> the amazon.co.uk warehouse.

Yeah - amazon.co.uk. It's part of a larger order and I'm probably going
to just wait until it all ships...

Michael



Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Struan Donald

* at 01/02 08:35 -0500 Dave Cross said:
> Data Munging with Perl
> by David Cross
> 
> Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760
> 
> Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!

a day in the life of a famous perl author:

goto: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1930110006/

while (1){
look at sales rank

sleep 300

hit refresh
}

struan



RE: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Dave Cross

At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:40:08 - , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I thought you were boycotting/not paying any attention to amazon ?

Boycotting, yes. No paying any attention to, no - that would be stupid.

Much as I hate it, I must accept that the majority of my sales will
come thru Amazon. That's just The Way Of The World.

Dave...



Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Dave Cross

At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:39:08 +, Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 08:35:10AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> > Data Munging with Perl
> > by David Cross
> > Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760
> > Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!
> 
> Now if they'd just actually send me the copy I ordered...
> 
> (I think they said 3-5 weeks)

Did you order it from amazon.co.uk? amazon.com have it stock and are
sending it out now. It'll be another couple of weeks before it hits
the amazon.co.uk warehouse.

Dave...



Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Dave Cross

At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:44:25 +, Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * at 01/02 08:35 -0500 Dave Cross said:
> > Data Munging with Perl
> > by David Cross
> > 
> > Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760
> > 
> > Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!
> 
> a day in the life of a famous perl author:
> 
> goto: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1930110006/
> 
> while (1){
>   look at sales rank
> 
>   sleep 300
> 
>   hit refresh
> }

This is so true.

Actually, the only difference between Perl authors and any other
authors is that we write scripts to do this an send us sms messages
whenever the sales rank changes[1]

Dave...
[1] Or, at least, we think very seriously about it :)



Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Paul Mison

On 01/02/2001 at 13:44 +, Struan Donald wrote:
>* at 01/02 08:35 -0500 Dave Cross said:
>> Data Munging with Perl
>> by David Cross
>>
>> Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760
>>
>> Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!
>
>a day in the life of a famous perl author:
>
>goto: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1930110006/
>
>while (1){
>   look at sales rank

Didn't the case of 'A Fist In the Bush' prove that Amazon's "Sales"
rankings are actually down to how many people look at things?

hoping *this* email has the right From: headers;

--
:: paul
:: they don't come at you with guns
:: they come at you with smiles





RE: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Gareth . Harper
Title: RE: Amazon Sales Rank





I've noticed a few (quiet) complaints about it on the list, so I thought I'd apologise, even though it's not my fault and (barring getting an external email address, which is going to happen soon) theres nothing I can do about it.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 February 2001 13:40
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Amazon Sales Rank



On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:40:08PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I thought you were boycotting/not paying any attention to amazon ?
> PS I apologise for the html mails, the client here is set up to send out
> plain text, and my internal mails come out as plain text, but some stupid
> idiot has our smtp server / exchange server set up to convert ALL outgoing
> mails to html :(


This one came with both text and html components, so it wouldn't
have been noticeable unless you mentioned it :)


Michael





RE: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Gareth . Harper
Title: RE: Amazon Sales Rank





I thought you were boycotting/not paying any attention to amazon ?




PS I apologise for the html mails, the client here is set up to send out plain text, and my internal mails come out as plain text, but some stupid idiot has our smtp server / exchange server set up to convert ALL outgoing mails to html :(

-Original Message-
From: Dave Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 February 2001 13:35
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Amazon Sales Rank



Data Munging with Perl
by David Cross


Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760


Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!


Dave...






Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Michael Stevens

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:40:08PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I thought you were boycotting/not paying any attention to amazon ?
> PS I apologise for the html mails, the client here is set up to send out
> plain text, and my internal mails come out as plain text, but some stupid
> idiot has our smtp server / exchange server set up to convert ALL outgoing
> mails to html :(

This one came with both text and html components, so it wouldn't
have been noticeable unless you mentioned it :)

Michael



Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Michael Stevens

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 08:35:10AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> Data Munging with Perl
> by David Cross
> Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760
> Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!

Now if they'd just actually send me the copy I ordered...

(I think they said 3-5 weeks)

Michael



Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Roger Burton West

On or about Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:39:08PM +, Michael Stevens typed:

>Now if they'd just actually send me the copy I ordered...
>(I think they said 3-5 weeks)

Ditto. It's one of the 9 things remaining before they ship my latest
order.

Roger