Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
I'm trying to duplicate an FS from an oldish 5,400rpm 6GB IDE drive to a new 7,200rpm 61GB IDE drive using the usual cp -ax / /mnt. But it's unbelievably slow -- vmstat 2 is reporting bi/bo around 300! Having just compared that with my main server (10K 7.2K SCSIs) that's 10x slower. The thing I

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 03:19:21AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Paul, who will probably end up using FreeBSD since its hardware RAID (HPT370) and video (Matrox G450 dual) is apparently better... vinum in mirror mode is not supposed to be that good (apparently it does no integrity checking of

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to duplicate an FS from an oldish 5,400rpm 6GB IDE drive to a new 7,200rpm 61GB IDE drive using the usual cp -ax / /mnt. But it's unbelievably slow -- vmstat 2 is reporting bi/bo around 300! What does hdparm have to say? -- Dave

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:27:07AM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 03:19:21AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Paul, who will probably end up using FreeBSD since its hardware RAID (HPT370) and video (Matrox G450 dual) is apparently better... vinum in mirror mode is

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:19:28AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: What does hdparm have to say? Ah yes, thanks, I remember that from 1997, the last time I used it :-) I switched DMA on both drives (hdparm -d1), and interrupts went down, transfer rate went up and all was good. Now, why do I have

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to duplicate an FS from an oldish 5,400rpm 6GB IDE drive to a new 7,200rpm 61GB IDE drive using the usual cp -ax / /mnt. But it's unbelievably slow -- vmstat 2 is reporting bi/bo around 300!

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: another tip is to mount the two IDE devices on seperate controllers .. seems to improve things sometimes. Oh Lord, yes. More busses than London General. No, really. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:32:58PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: whistles for quick HD access turned to 'off' .. I tripled the transfer rate on my slaptop by turning DMA and other stuff on ... and it didn;t explode like the manpage said it might. I caved and upgraded to 2.4.5, something I

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:12:30AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: OK, getting more esoteric now -- is anyone running dual monitors? I finally got my G450 running with KDE2 but the window manager doesn't add decoration to the windows on the 2ndary monitor, i.e. I can't move windows and they

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Mark Fowler
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: OK, getting more esoteric now -- is anyone running dual monitors? I finally got my G450 running with KDE2 but the window manager doesn't add decoration to the windows on the 2ndary monitor, i.e. I can't move windows and they don't get mouse focus.

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:26:14PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: You might need to run a 2nd copy of kwin, like this: % kwin -- display :0.1 (--display) Try that and see if it works... Yes! Thanks. Now to get it to start like that on its own... It's very weird re-learning X after

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:41:11PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: Are you using xinerama (i.e. so your monitors are spliced together into one display?) No, it's KDE2 which seems to split them into separate desktops. The mouse moves between them as though they're one but I can't drag windows back

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:42:50AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:26:14PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: You might need to run a 2nd copy of kwin, like this: % kwin -- display :0.1 (--display) Sorry, saw that after I posted... Why don't spell checkers

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:47:28AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:41:11PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: Are you using xinerama (i.e. so your monitors are spliced together into one display?) No, it's KDE2 which seems to split them into separate desktops. The mouse

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Simon Wistow
Dominic Mitchell wrote: I'd like to tell you how to get the flash plugin working, but I couldn't because it's a Linux .so and can't be linked in to my FreeBSD konqueror. :-( There's an OpenSource version written by Olivier Debon. It's not as good as the official one but it's better than a

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:55:12PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: The monitor layout should be controllable from the XF86Config file. Somehow. I haven't tried this though. RTFM. I have, Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Primary

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 05:05:28PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: I'd like to tell you how to get the flash plugin working, but I couldn't because it's a Linux .so and can't be linked in to my FreeBSD konqueror. :-( There's an OpenSource version written by Olivier

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Mark Fowler
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: I have, Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Primary Screen Secondary LeftOf Primary InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection Look, look, bad Text::Autoformat setup. I suck. Anyway.. And I have

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 05:41:45PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Primary Screen Secondary LeftOf Primary InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection Look, look, bad

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Paul Mison
On 31/05/2001 at 17:41 +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: You really only have to change LeftOf and RightOf to switch the monitors around (which I did last time I moved desk as I went from having one monitor to the left of the primary console monitor to having one monitor to the right.) You can't do

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 04:41:11PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: Are you using xinerama (i.e. so your monitors are spliced together into one display?) No, it's KDE2 which seems to split them into separate desktops. The mouse moves between them as

Re: Slow disks under linux

2001-05-31 Thread Redvers Davies
KDE2's Konqueror browser is really, really impressive. Wow! Seems quicker and less crashy than Mozilla. Now if only it played Flash and Quicktime movies... Mine does flash...