Re: Technical Meeting - 21st June

2001-06-19 Thread Leo Lapworth

On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 07:15:32PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
 Oh... er... it's only three days to the technical meeting and so far I don't
 seem to have any talks for it.

Thursday.. what, this thursday where does the time go.

Assuming I can make it (have to check something), I'll give a little
update on the new web site.

If you are really desperate I can talk through my
XML - DB schema and docs thingy, but it's not ready
for release so only if people are interested.

- Both short talks.

Leo 



Re: Technical Meeting - 21st June

2001-06-19 Thread Piers Cawley

Leo Lapworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 07:15:32PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
  Oh... er... it's only three days to the technical meeting and so far I don't
  seem to have any talks for it.
 
 Thursday.. what, this thursday where does the time go.
 
 Assuming I can make it (have to check something), I'll give a little
 update on the new web site.

Bugger. I definitely can't make it.

-- 
Piers Cawley
www.iterative-software.com




Re: Technical Meeting - 21st June

2001-06-19 Thread Redvers Davies

 Oh... er... it's only three days to the technical meeting and so far I don't
 seem to have any talks for it.

Err, I have to produce 3 hours of material so I don't think that the
technical meeting would be the right place for it.  Apart from that it
isn't finished yet.  If there is another technical meeting before YAPC::Europe
I will do 30 mins worth of material or 3 hours abridged (sort of like
campbels condensed soup).

Its been a few years since I did this kinda thing so I will be in need of
constructive critisism.

Red



Technical Meeting - 21st June

2001-06-18 Thread Dave Cross

Oh... er... it's only three days to the technical meeting and so far I don't
seem to have any talks for it.

I'll write my Perl for the People talk tonight and give that, and I think 
that Robin wanted to do something.

There must be others out there who want to practice talks that they'll be
giving at TPC or YAPC::E. Please let me know.

Dave...

-- 

  Don't dream it... be it




Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-12 Thread Peter Haworth

On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:14:41 +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:34:28PM +0100, Peter Haworth
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  Can someone please remind me about the technical meeting on the 21st? Now 
  that it looks like I might be in London at the time, I find I've deleted 
  all the relevant messages and can't remember if there's an archive.
 
 Well, er..., there will be a meeting on the 21st. I spoke to Alex last 
 night and he said we could hold it at State 51.

Sadly, I can't make it to the meeting after all, even though I'll be in London the 
next day.

-- 
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I just looked at the HTTP 1.1 spec (RFC 2616).  It's too fscking big.
 It's a Request For Comments, goddamnit,
 not a Request For An Epic Of Homeric Proportions!
-- David Cantrell



Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-12 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If this is because you don't have somewhere to stay on the Thursday night,
 I'm sure we can collectively find a way around that.  If you bring your
 passport, we'll even let you south of the river and my sofa is very
 comfortable and has a well-stocked booze cabinet next to it.

It's a TRAP!

-- 
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Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star   http://www.deep-purple.com
  Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
   



Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell

On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:28:14PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  If this is because you don't have somewhere to stay on the Thursday night,
  I'm sure we can collectively find a way around that.  If you bring your
  passport, we'll even let you south of the river and my sofa is very
  comfortable and has a well-stocked booze cabinet next to it.
 
 It's a TRAP!

You been playing wy too much nethack recently.

-Dom

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Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-12 Thread David Cantrell

On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:28:14PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  If this is because you don't have somewhere to stay on the Thursday night,
  I'm sure we can collectively find a way around that.  If you bring your
  passport, we'll even let you south of the river and my sofa is very
  comfortable and has a well-stocked booze cabinet next to it.
 
 It's a TRAP!

Curses!  That was my cunning plan to acquire more victims for the Sun god,
why'd you have to go and spoil it?  I need a sacrifice to get this VT320
working.

-- 
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  but that's no reason not to give it-- Agatha Christie



Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-12 Thread Nicholas Clark

On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:40:44PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:28:14PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
  David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   If this is because you don't have somewhere to stay on the Thursday night,
   I'm sure we can collectively find a way around that.  If you bring your
   passport, we'll even let you south of the river and my sofa is very
   comfortable and has a well-stocked booze cabinet next to it.
  
  It's a TRAP!
 
 Curses!  That was my cunning plan to acquire more victims for the Sun god,
 why'd you have to go and spoil it?  I need a sacrifice to get this VT320
 working.

I think I can see where you're going wrong. It's the DEC god you should be
making your sacrifices to. The Sun god will only help for Sparc 1s, 4/110s
etc

Nicholas Clark



Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-12 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:28:14PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:

  It's a TRAP!
 
 You been playing wy too much nethack recently.

That was a tough level with comfy sofa and the drinks cabinet.


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Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-12 Thread Peter Haworth

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:26:08 +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:10:01PM +0100, Peter Haworth wrote:
  On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:14:41 +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
   Well, er..., there will be a meeting on the 21st. I spoke to Alex last 
   night and he said we could hold it at State 51.
  
  Sadly, I can't make it to the meeting after all, even though I'll be in
  London the next day.
 
 If this is because you don't have somewhere to stay on the Thursday night,
 I'm sure we can collectively find a way around that.  If you bring your
 passport, we'll even let you south of the river and my sofa is very
 comfortable and has a well-stocked booze cabinet next to it.

Well, it was partly due to having nowhere to stay, but I've requested the train ticket 
now, so it's too late to change my mind. Thanks for the offer, though.

  -- 
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  I just looked at the HTTP 1.1 spec (RFC 2616).  It's too fscking big.
   It's a Request For Comments, goddamnit,
   not a Request For An Epic Of Homeric Proportions!
  -- David Cantrell
 
 /me feels weird

Most of the regular posters on this list (and the others I frequent) are in my sig 
file somewhere. Look, here's another one:

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Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-12 Thread David Cantrell

On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 05:18:43PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:28:14PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
 
   It's a TRAP!
  
  You been playing wy too much nethack recently.
 
 That was a tough level with comfy sofa and the drinks cabinet.

Even tougher - there's ethernet to the sofa too.

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Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-11 Thread Philip Newton

Leon Brocard wrote:
 Registration might happen pretty soon too.

Ooh, goody. People at work (who fortunately will be paying for me to go to
yapc::Europe again this year) have said they'll want to start to get down
details. Probably better to book hotel, travel, etc. *after* I register for
the conference, or I might end up travelling to AMS for nothing.

Cheers,
Philip
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Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 * Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  Redvers Davies sent the following bits through the ether:
 
   I'll be there...  btw, has anyone heard back from the YAPC::Europe peeps
   about which papers have been accepted?... or have any idea when the
   list will be published. [1]
 
  Speakers will be told Real Soon Now. Registration might happen pretty
  soon too. Speakers don't need to register.
 

 maybe you'd like to make the point that those who can spare 40 quid
 or whatever and are speakers can still register to help balance
 the books



Wierdly I just heard this morning that my proposal has been accepted -
voice style=Mr TCrazee Fools/voice :)

/J\




Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-09 Thread Redvers Davies

 We'll start at about 7pm and people will be practiving TPC and YAPC::E 
 talks.

I'll be there...  btw, has anyone heard back from the YAPC::Europe peeps
about which papers have been accepted?... or have any idea when the
list will be published. [1]

Red




Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-09 Thread Nicholas Clark

On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 07:23:32AM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
 I'll be there...  btw, has anyone heard back from the YAPC::Europe peeps
 about which papers have been accepted?... or have any idea when the
 list will be published. [1]

I had an e-mail from Ann Barcomb yesterday saying that my lightning talk
had been accepted. I don't know anything further

Nicholas Clark



Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-09 Thread Leon Brocard

Redvers Davies sent the following bits through the ether:

 I'll be there...  btw, has anyone heard back from the YAPC::Europe peeps
 about which papers have been accepted?... or have any idea when the
 list will be published. [1]

Speakers will be told Real Soon Now. Registration might happen pretty
soon too. Speakers don't need to register.

Leon

[1] no, I have no idea why you missed the footnote either
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Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-08 Thread Peter Haworth

Can someone please remind me about the technical meeting on the 21st? Now that it 
looks like I might be in London at the time, I find I've deleted all the relevant 
messages and can't remember if there's an archive.

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Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-08 Thread Dave Cross

On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:34:28PM +0100, Peter Haworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Can someone please remind me about the technical meeting on the 21st? Now 
 that it looks like I might be in London at the time, I find I've deleted 
 all the relevant messages and can't remember if there's an archive.

Well, er..., there will be a meeting on the 21st. I spoke to Alex last 
night and he said we could hold it at State 51.

We'll start at about 7pm and people will be practiving TPC and YAPC::E 
talks.

Thanks about it for planning so far!

Dave...




Re: NWS (was Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April)

2001-04-17 Thread Mark Fowler

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote:
 * at 17/04 14:00 +0200 Philip Newton said:
  Mark Fowler wrote:
3) Write a set of scripts that are all basically the same but have
   different #!/usr/bin/perl lines on the top and tell you the
  with a bunch of different extensions such as .pl .plx .cgi for
  combinations of "operating system" + web server that map scripts to
  interpreters by extension and/or directory rather than by shebang line...
 surely there should be a better way than this? after all the
 combinations involved are quite numerous. is the notion of something
 that does :
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 if [ -e /usr/bin/perl ]; then
 exec './bin_perl.pl'
 fi
 
 or equivalent too silly? although not sure this sort of thing is possible
 on non unix type systems. OTOH would at least cut down the number of
 files that the person installing needs to worry about.

I don't particularly see the number of scripts this person is installing
as a problem.  The key concept is that these scripts are designed so that
someone who knows *nothing* about their system can basically upload them
all then see which one works.  Once they've got this script working the
script should contain instructions on how to modify any of the
other scripts to work with their server.

I don't think what you're suggesting will work at all on windows.  Or pure
mod_perl...

Feel free to disagree, I'm just suggesting ideas here.  Honestly, I'm not
sure what's the best way...

Later.

Mark.

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Re: NWS (was Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April)

2001-04-17 Thread Struan Donald

* at 17/04 14:09 +0100 Mark Fowler said:
 On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote:
  surely there should be a better way than this? after all the
  combinations involved are quite numerous. is the notion of something
  that does :
  
  #!/bin/sh
  
  if [ -e /usr/bin/perl ]; then
  exec './bin_perl.pl'
  fi
  
  or equivalent too silly? although not sure this sort of thing is possible
  on non unix type systems. OTOH would at least cut down the number of
  files that the person installing needs to worry about.
 
 I don't particularly see the number of scripts this person is installing
 as a problem.  The key concept is that these scripts are designed so that
 someone who knows *nothing* about their system can basically upload them
 all then see which one works.  Once they've got this script working the
 script should contain instructions on how to modify any of the
 other scripts to work with their server.

it's not so much the number of scripts as the "try each of these
scripts till one works" situation i think we should be trying to
minimise. 
 
 I don't think what you're suggesting will work at all on windows.  Or pure
 mod_perl...

true. although the number of people using mod_perl who'll be using
these is debatable. windows is a problem though.

 Feel free to disagree, I'm just suggesting ideas here.  Honestly, I'm not
 sure what's the best way...

heck, anything that helps is better than the "your isp will know"
school of help.

struan



Technical Meeting Agenda

2001-04-12 Thread dcross - David Cross


Here's the agenda(!) for the technical meeting on 19th April (a week today)
at State 51.

Committee Reports:
T-Shirt Committee
Server Committee
Canel Visitation Committee

Lightning Talks:
Not Matt's Scripts/TT Views - Mark
Why Perl Advocacy is Bad - Dave

Talks:
"101 fun things to do with Tangram" - Jo
"parsing and semantic transformation of Perl code" - Robin
Music - Alex

Still room for one or two more lightning talks - it might be nice if someone
who hasn't already spoken was to have a go. Lightning talks are a gentle way
to get into speaking at meetings. Have you done something interesting in
Perl that you'd like to tell us about? Let me know.

Cheers,

Dave...

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Re: Technical Meeting Agenda

2001-04-12 Thread Dean

On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:15:13AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:

 Committee Reports:
 Canel Visitation Committee
^

God we're going down market... ;)

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RE: Technical Meeting Agenda

2001-04-12 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:20 AM

 On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:15:13AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
 
  Committee Reports:
  Canel Visitation Committee
 ^
 
 God we're going down market... ;)

You didn't think I'd actually have anything to report on the _camel_ visit
did you :)

Dave...


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Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-11 Thread Mark Fowler

On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:

 As usual I'll aim at having four or five lightning talks and two or three
 longer talks.

I could do a lightening talk on playing around with skinning stuff with
Template Toolkit's brand spanking new VIEW directive.  This would be very
quick as we've seen Andy do this kind of thing before in the pre-release
version.  I'd be skinning XML again in my example, but this time I'd be
using XML::XPath...

I'll also be able to give a quick status update on the website for NMS
(probably at the same time as I'll be using it as my example)

Later.

Mark.

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NWS (was Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April)

2001-04-11 Thread Struan Donald

* at 11/04 08:28 +0100 Mark Fowler said:
 On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:

 
snip
 
 I'll also be able to give a quick status update on the website for NMS
 (probably at the same time as I'll be using it as my example)

what is the status of the NMS thing. i'm liable to have some spare time
over the weekend so if there's anything that needs doing on this i could
have a bash.

struan



Re: NWS (was Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April)

2001-04-11 Thread jo walsh


  4) Install Apache::Template, Bundle-XML, Template Toolkit 2.02 on penderel
 I think this has already been mostly done, but I could be wrong.

after much grappling with CPAN shell trying to upgrade us to 5.6.1,
this is all done now, though a couple of newer versions of XML modules -
not the crucial ones - failed tests, i didn't want to force. let me know
if there's anything you want or need missing,

jo





Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread Marcel Grunauer

On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:56:28PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote:
 
 nowhere we might be tempted to sit by the thames till the wee small
 hours generating tremendous hangovers :)

"sit"? IIRC, you tried to lean against a bench but unfortunately
were standing between two benches, landing on the ground face-down.

Marcel

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Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread Simon Wistow

Dave Cross wrote:
 
 I understood that you had delegated the actual work to someone else.
 
 Can you ensure that your vice-chair is able to speak in your place.

Umm. Ok.

Somebody give me the designs and I'll get them printed.

Talk over.

Or am I missing something?



RE: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:17 AM

 Dave Cross wrote:
  
  I understood that you had delegated the actual work to someone else.
  
  Can you ensure that your vice-chair is able to speak in your place.
 
 Umm. Ok.
 
 Somebody give me the designs and I'll get them printed.

Mr Cantrell has them I believe.

 Talk over.
 
 Or am I missing something?

You're missing the fact that by the meeting you'll have 9 more days of
progress to report :)

Dave...

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Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread Struan Donald

* at 10/04 09:15 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:
 * Marcel Grunauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:56:28PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote:
   
   nowhere we might be tempted to sit by the thames till the wee small
   hours generating tremendous hangovers :)
  
  "sit"? IIRC, you tried to lean against a bench but unfortunately
  were standing between two benches, landing on the ground face-down.
  
 
 its a good job he had lots of `anasthetic' that night, or that would
 of really hurt

not at the time no :(

struan



RE: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:19 AM

   might be nice to have status reports from:
  
  * The t-shirt committee

 What is the design that you have agreed on? I will probably want one.

There are five. So you'll probably want somewhere between one and five of
them :)

Are the designs on the web anywhere? Paul? Dave? Anyone?

 http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/things/321a.html is a fairly new addition I
 think.

Been there for a few months. It's a top piece of code tho'.

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Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread Piers Cawley

jo walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us,
  but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to step
  forward.
 
 i recall promising to do 20 minutes on '101 fun things to do with
 Tangram', or something like that.

Swear at the maintainer who *still* hasn't put some stuff to allow for
schema changes during development without losing data.

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Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread Simon Wistow

Neil Ford wrote:
 
 Do we need to dig up the original meeting notes regarding .pm/colour
 combinations or is Simon to 'wing it'?

Got em, cheers.



Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread Leon Brocard

dcross - David Cross sent the following bits through the ether:

 Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us,

Righto, I'd like to do talks on the following subjects:

  o Creating an optimising compiler and interpreter for a toy language
  o More Graphing Perl (crazy stuff Marcel and I have done)
  o Testing (Test, Test::Simple, Test::More, Test::Unit, Devel::Coverage)
  o Benchmarking (Benchmark, Devel::DProf, Devel::OpProf, Devel::SmallProf)
 
Of course, I'll actually be in the alps snowboarding[1], so this may
have to wait until the next technical meet[2] ;-)

[1] read this as "hurting"
[2] although you're welcome to steal the bottom two and do them
without me, sniff
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Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread David Cantrell

On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 11:04:07AM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:

 Do we need to dig up the original meeting notes regarding .pm/colour
 combinations or is Simon to 'wing it'?

I forwarded it to him, along with the designs that Paul did.

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Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 * Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Simon Wistow wrote:
   I shall proceed from here whence forth unto smack Mr Cantrell until he
   doth giveth over the designs. Hither-unto. And heretowards.
  Can we all join in?
 yes the hitch in the t-shirt plan seems to be Mr Cantrell, so i think 
 we all need to
   smack our hitch up
 ;-)

That was kind of what I meant.

MBM (any excuse :)

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Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread Robin Houston

On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
 As usual I'll aim at having four or five lightning talks and two or three
 longer talks.

I'd like to give a (preferably "longer") talk about parsing and
semantic transformation of Perl code. I promise to think of a
less scary title, and try not to say "semantic transformation".

Should take about 20 minutes.

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Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread Richard Clamp

On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 10:31:11PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
 At 22:10 09/04/2001, Neil Ford wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
  
   If anyone doesn't know (or has forgotten), there will be a technical 
  meeting
   on Thursday 19th April. It will be at State 51[1] and we'll start at about
   7pm. Details on how to get to State 51 will appear on the web site... er...
   soon.
  
 Ummm forewarned is forearmed Nat and I might not be able to make this
 which means getting hold of the projector might be a problem :-(
 
 If someone wants to pop down to West Sussex to collect it they are more than
 welcome, unfortunately I'm not travelling into London as much as I was.
 
 Neil,
 
 Thanks for warning me.
 
 Does anyone want to take on the task of being projector monitor and picking 
 it up from Sussex?

Sure, I'll polish up the terrorist-mobile[1].

Someone mail me off-list with some instructions.

[1] Which contrary to what Micheal J Fox thinks, will do 90, eventually.

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Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-09 Thread Struan Donald

* at 09/04 16:09 +0100 dcross - David Cross said:
 
snip/
 
 p.s Next social meeting is on Thur 3rd May. Suggestions for venues would be
 most welcome.

nowhere we might be tempted to sit by the thames till the wee small
hours generating tremendous hangovers :)

struan



Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-09 Thread alex

On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:
 Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for
 us, but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to
 step forward.

i'll do some more music for a bit.

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Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-09 Thread jo walsh


 Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us,
 but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to step
 forward.

i recall promising to do 20 minutes on '101 fun things to do with
Tangram', or something like that.
am still happy to do this, but also happy to do less time if more people
want to do longer talks.

jo





Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-09 Thread David Cantrell

On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:

 might be nice to have status reports from:
 
 * The t-shirt committee

There has been movement on this!

I, however, will not be able to attend cos I have a visitor from the
darker regions of the galaxy.

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Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-09 Thread Dave Cross

At 19:16 09/04/2001, David Cantrell wrote:
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:

  might be nice to have status reports from:
 
  * The t-shirt committee

There has been movement on this!

I, however, will not be able to attend cos I have a visitor from the
darker regions of the galaxy.

I understood that you had delegated the actual work to someone else.

Can you ensure that your vice-chair is able to speak in your place.

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Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-09 Thread Neil Ford

On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
 
 If anyone doesn't know (or has forgotten), there will be a technical meeting
 on Thursday 19th April. It will be at State 51[1] and we'll start at about
 7pm. Details on how to get to State 51 will appear on the web site... er...
 soon.
 
Ummm forewarned is forearmed Nat and I might not be able to make this
which means getting hold of the projector might be a problem :-(

If someone wants to pop down to West Sussex to collect it they are more than
welcome, unfortunately I'm not travelling into London as much as I was.

Neil.
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Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-09 Thread Dave Cross

At 22:10 09/04/2001, Neil Ford wrote:
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
 
  If anyone doesn't know (or has forgotten), there will be a technical 
 meeting
  on Thursday 19th April. It will be at State 51[1] and we'll start at about
  7pm. Details on how to get to State 51 will appear on the web site... er...
  soon.
 
Ummm forewarned is forearmed Nat and I might not be able to make this
which means getting hold of the projector might be a problem :-(

If someone wants to pop down to West Sussex to collect it they are more than
welcome, unfortunately I'm not travelling into London as much as I was.

Neil,

Thanks for warning me.

Does anyone want to take on the task of being projector monitor and picking 
it up from Sussex?

Dave...



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Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-09 Thread dcross - David Cross


If anyone doesn't know (or has forgotten), there will be a technical meeting
on Thursday 19th April. It will be at State 51[1] and we'll start at about
7pm. Details on how to get to State 51 will appear on the web site... er...
soon.

Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us,
but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to step
forward. might be nice to have status reports from:

* The t-shirt committee
* The server committee
* The camel visitation committee[2]

As usual I'll aim at having four or five lightning talks and two or three
longer talks.

Any questions?

Dave...

p.s Next social meeting is on Thur 3rd May. Suggestions for venues would be
most welcome.

[1] I know that some people raised objections to State 51 as a venue, but as
I didn't get any other suggestions I didn't really have much choice :(

[2] Bugger! That's me.

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Re: Technical Meeting

2001-03-10 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 The next meeting is on Thursday 5th April and the next technical 
 meeting is Thursday 19th April. Suggestions for venues for both are
 welcomed.

i think some little birdie told me dean was booking the cittie of
yorke (or however you spell it), 

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Technical Meeting

2001-03-09 Thread Dave Cross


Just a quick reminder that there will be _no_ technical meeting next
Thursday. We've seen far too much of each other and it wouldn't be
healthy :)

The next meeting is on Thursday 5th April and the next technical 
meeting is Thursday 19th April. Suggestions for venues for both are
welcomed.

The web site is, as usual, wrong. I'll correct it over the weekend.

Dave...



Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-13 Thread Matthew Robinson

[ Editors note I have changed the attachment its contents can be found at
  http://www.gellyfi.sh/stuff/torridirections.pdf /J\ ]

Here you go, directions to Torrington.  The address is:

Torrington Interactive
2 Printing House Yard
London
E2 7PR

Printing House Yard is on the junction of Old Street, Shoreditch High St,
Hackney Road and Kingsland Road.  We are about 10-15 minutes walk from Old
St and Liverpool St tubes.

I have attached the official 'Directions to Torrington' PDF file.  However,
after 6:30 pm the gate on Hackney Road is closed and the only entrance is
through the back gates which are on Waterson St (the first road on the left
as you walk up Hackney Rd).

Matt

At 10:56 12/02/01 -0500, you wrote:
At Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:49:04 +, Matthew Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 How many people can we get in the room at Torrington? I guess we'll
 be expecting ~30. Maybe a bit more.
 
 30 people should be no problem, over 40 and it will probably start 
 getting a little personal.

That sounds OK. I suspect that unfortunately the attendance at this
meeting will be adversely affected by Damian being in town only a few
days later.

 And will there be net connectivity in the room? We can probably 
 get by without, but it would be nice to have.
 
 We have a 2meg line and we can make sure that there are a few ports 
 patched through from the boardroom.  We are also running DHCP so 
 people can get an IP if required.

Excellent. Let's call that a plan then.

Can you post directions to Torrington, and then I'll post an official
announcement.

Cheers,

Dave...




I Have removed the PDF map attachment and placed it at:

http://www.gellyfi.sh/stuff/torridirections.pdf

Because it was bounced by majordomo :)

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Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-13 Thread Roger Burton West

On or about Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 04:50:40PM +, Matthew Robinson typed:

Here you go, directions to Torrington.  The address is:

Torrington Interactive
2 Printing House Yard
London
E2 7PR

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=533478Y=182733A=YZ=1

Printing House Yard is on the junction of Old Street, Shoreditch High St,
Hackney Road and Kingsland Road.  We are about 10-15 minutes walk from Old
St and Liverpool St tubes.

I have attached the official 'Directions to Torrington' PDF file.  However,
after 6:30 pm the gate on Hackney Road

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=533497Y=182730A=YZ=1

is closed and the only entrance is
through the back gates

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=533500Y=182818A=YZ=1

which are on Waterson St (the first road on the left
as you walk up Hackney Rd).

Roger



Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread Dave Cross


I'm assuming that Matt won't want to talk for the _whole_ evening :)
So anyone got a short talk they want to give as a support act?

Cheers,

Dave...



Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread Neil Ford

I'm assuming that Matt won't want to talk for the _whole_ evening :)
So anyone got a short talk they want to give as a support act?

Cheers,

Dave...

Related question:

What kit are we going to need for this? (projector, etc.).

Also what kit are we going to need for Damian's talk? (projector, PA, 
wireless microphones?)

Neil.
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Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread Dave Cross

At Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:59:55 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm assuming that Matt won't want to talk for the _whole_ evening :)
 So anyone got a short talk they want to give as a support act?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave...
 
 Related question:
 
 What kit are we going to need for this? (projector, etc.).

I assume we'll need the usual. Projecter, Screen (or white wall!),
net connectivity. Can someone at Torrington please confirm which of
that list they can supply. Thanks.

 Also what kit are we going to need for Damian's talk? (projector, PA, 
 wireless microphones?)

I'll be able to answer that better after I've visited tomorrow. I 
strongly suspect that we'll be asking to borrow you prjector again tho'
Neil.

Cheers,

Dave...



Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread Neil Ford

At Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:59:55 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm assuming that Matt won't want to talk for the _whole_ evening :)
  So anyone got a short talk they want to give as a support act?
  
  Cheers,
  
  Dave...

  Related question:

  What kit are we going to need for this? (projector, etc.).

I assume we'll need the usual. Projecter, Screen (or white wall!),
net connectivity. Can someone at Torrington please confirm which of
that list they can supply. Thanks.

  Also what kit are we going to need for Damian's talk? (projector, PA,
  wireless microphones?)

I'll be able to answer that better after I've visited tomorrow. I
strongly suspect that we'll be asking to borrow you prjector again tho'
Neil.

Shall I come along tomorrow?

Neil.
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Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread Dave Cross

At Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:17:14 +, Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[kit for Damian's talk]

 I'll be able to answer that better after I've visited tomorrow. I
 strongly suspect that we'll be asking to borrow you prjector again 
 tho' Neil.

 Shall I come along tomorrow?

If you have the time, that would be great. Meet me outside the Conway
Hall at 12:30pm.

Dave...



Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread Matthew Robinson

 
 What kit are we going to need for this? (projector, etc.).

I assume we'll need the usual. Projecter, Screen (or white wall!),
net connectivity. Can someone at Torrington please confirm which of
that list they can supply. Thanks.

Sorry, been busy all morning.  We can supply either a screen or a white
wall, not sure which yet but we will supply one or the other.  So if
somebody else can supply the projector that would be good.

Matt





Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread Dave Cross

At Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:25:34 +, Matthew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  
  What kit are we going to need for this? (projector, etc.).
 
 I assume we'll need the usual. Projecter, Screen (or white wall!),
 net connectivity. Can someone at Torrington please confirm which of
 that list they can supply. Thanks.
 
 Sorry, been busy all morning.  We can supply either a screen or a 
 white wall, not sure which yet but we will supply one or the other.  
 So if somebody else can supply the projector that would be good.

Thanks Matt. I guess we'll impose on Neil for his projector again, if 
that's ok :)

How many people can we get in the room at Torrington? I guess we'll
be expecting ~30. Maybe a bit more.

And will there be net connectivity in the room? We can probably 
get by without, but it would be nice to have.

Cheers,

Dave...



Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread Neil Ford

At Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:25:34 +, Matthew Robinson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   What kit are we going to need for this? (projector, etc.).
  
  I assume we'll need the usual. Projecter, Screen (or white wall!),
  net connectivity. Can someone at Torrington please confirm which of
  that list they can supply. Thanks.

  Sorry, been busy all morning.  We can supply either a screen or a
  white wall, not sure which yet but we will supply one or the other.
  So if somebody else can supply the projector that would be good.

Thanks Matt. I guess we'll impose on Neil for his projector again, if
that's ok :)

No probs projector booked.

Neil.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread Matthew Robinson

At 10:31 12/02/01 -0500, you wrote:
At Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:25:34 +, Matthew Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  What kit are we going to need for this? (projector, etc.).
 
 I assume we'll need the usual. Projecter, Screen (or white wall!),
 net connectivity. Can someone at Torrington please confirm which of
 that list they can supply. Thanks.
 
 Sorry, been busy all morning.  We can supply either a screen or a 
 white wall, not sure which yet but we will supply one or the other.  
 So if somebody else can supply the projector that would be good.

Thanks Matt. I guess we'll impose on Neil for his projector again, if 
that's ok :)

How many people can we get in the room at Torrington? I guess we'll
be expecting ~30. Maybe a bit more.

30 people should be no problem, over 40 and it will probably start getting
a little personal.


And will there be net connectivity in the room? We can probably 
get by without, but it would be nice to have.

We have a 2meg line and we can make sure that there are a few ports patched
through from the boardroom.  We are also running DHCP so people can get an
IP if required.

Matt





Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread Dave Cross

At Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:49:04 +, Matthew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 How many people can we get in the room at Torrington? I guess we'll
 be expecting ~30. Maybe a bit more.
 
 30 people should be no problem, over 40 and it will probably start 
 getting a little personal.

That sounds OK. I suspect that unfortunately the attendance at this
meeting will be adversely affected by Damian being in town only a few
days later.

 And will there be net connectivity in the room? We can probably 
 get by without, but it would be nice to have.
 
 We have a 2meg line and we can make sure that there are a few ports 
 patched through from the boardroom.  We are also running DHCP so 
 people can get an IP if required.

Excellent. Let's call that a plan then.

Can you post directions to Torrington, and then I'll post an official
announcement.

Cheers,

Dave...



Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:59:55AM +, Neil Ford wrote:
 
 Also what kit are we going to need for Damian's talk? (projector, PA, 
 wireless microphones?)

FWIW, damian has (IIRC) requested a vga connection for ny.

(will try to remember to confirm this at some point...)

Your best bet is to ask him.  That's what we did. :-)

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Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread Dave Cross

At 21:04 12/02/2001, Neil Ford wrote:
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:59:55AM +, Neil Ford wrote:

  Also what kit are we going to need for Damian's talk? (projector, PA,
  wireless microphones?)

FWIW, damian has (IIRC) requested a vga connection for ny.

(will try to remember to confirm this at some point...)

Your best bet is to ask him.  That's what we did. :-)
I'll get Mr Cross to check then. Some of teh requirements are going to 
depend on the size of room we get. Something the size of the cinemas at 
the ICA and a PA and mics will almost be a necessity.

The room we're looking at holds 80-100 people, so that's borderline PA 
territory in my book.

And isn't the VGA connection a requirement for the projector? Or the 
laptop? Or something other than the room itself?

Confused?

Dave...




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Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 09:17:54PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
 And isn't the VGA connection a requirement for the projector? Or the 
 laptop? Or something other than the room itself?

My assumption is that that describes what is needed to connect the
projector and laptop.

I just had him talk to the tech people himself. :-)

delagatin' dha

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Re: Technical Meeting 22nd Feb

2001-02-12 Thread Neil Ford

At 21:04 12/02/2001, Neil Ford wrote:
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:59:55AM +, Neil Ford wrote:

   Also what kit are we going to need for Damian's talk? (projector, PA,
   wireless microphones?)

FWIW, damian has (IIRC) requested a vga connection for ny.

(will try to remember to confirm this at some point...)

Your best bet is to ask him.  That's what we did. :-)
I'll get Mr Cross to check then. Some of teh requirements are going 
to depend on the size of room we get. Something the size of the 
cinemas at the ICA and a PA and mics will almost be a necessity.

The room we're looking at holds 80-100 people, so that's borderline PA
territory in my book.

Something to check tomorrow. I'll stand at the back and you can do 
the Sub::Approx lightning talk :-)

And isn't the VGA connection a requirement for the projector? Or the 
laptop? Or
something other than the room itself?

I'll admit my message wasn't well written. What I meant was that if 
the room was titchy we wouldn't need a PA, etc. Might need a VGA 
extension cable regardless as the one on the projector isn't 
extremely long.

Neil.
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Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship

2001-02-07 Thread Merijn Broeren

Quoting Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 It would be spectacularly appropriate :)
 
I agree :-)

 
 I can't remember exactly what the email I got from them said, but they
 were _far_ cheaper than the Commonwealth Institute (which I also
 investigated). There was a larger room for ~500 and a smaller one for
 ~70. I think the smaller one costs 155 for the evening. So that is
 looking pretty good to me right now.
 
 If I don't get any other volunteers I may consider making it a Magnum
 Solutions sponsored event (if it only costs 150!)
 
You can jot me down for a personal sponsorship of 50. No way I can get
a corporate sponsorship in time. 

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Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship

2001-02-07 Thread Dave Cross

At Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:49:17 +0100, Merijn Broeren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You can jot me down for a personal sponsorship of £50. No way I can 
 get a corporate sponsorship in time.

Most kind. Thank you. Once again we see the awesome power of the Perl
communities bottomless pockets :)

I've had pledges of £120 and a promise of unlimited wealth from 
Jonathan Stowe, so I'm going to press ahead with the Conway Hall
option.

Cheers,

Dave...



RE: Technical Meeting Sponsorship

2001-02-07 Thread Dave Cross

At 14:24 06/02/2001, Clyne, Richard wrote:

If it was at Conway Hall could PC Bookshop be persuaded to sponsor it -
after all they are very local.

That's a very interesting idea, but I think we have plenty of private 
sponsors to raise the money for the Conway Hall.

Cheers,

Dave...



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Technical Meeting Sponsorship

2001-02-06 Thread Dave Cross

I've been investigating places to hold Damian's meeting and I've already
got some interesting leads (the Conway Hall looks like it might well
work out!)

The problem with moving from a room in someone's office to a 'real'
meeting room is that we'll probably have to pay for it. I'm therefore 
touting for someone whose company might be interested in sponsoring
the event. Costs of the rooms vary, but it might be a little as £150
or as much as £500.

Any offers? I want to get this sorted out this week.

Cheers,

Dave...



Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship

2001-02-06 Thread Robin Houston

On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 07:29:53AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
 I've been investigating places to hold Damian's meeting and I've already
 got some interesting leads (the Conway Hall looks like it might well
 work out!)

Conway Hall would be a great venue, for the name alone!

It can't be too expensive, because it's used by any number of
fringe anarcho groups, who presumably don't have too much cash
spilling around.

 .robin.



Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship

2001-02-06 Thread Dave Cross

At Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:12:24 +, Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 07:29:53AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
  I've been investigating places to hold Damian's meeting and I've already
  got some interesting leads (the Conway Hall looks like it might well
  work out!)
 
 Conway Hall would be a great venue, for the name alone!

It would be spectacularly appropriate :)

 It can't be too expensive, because it's used by any number of
 fringe anarcho groups, who presumably don't have too much cash
 spilling around.

I can't remember exactly what the email I got from them said, but they
were _far_ cheaper than the Commonwealth Institute (which I also
investigated). There was a larger room for ~500 and a smaller one for
~70. I think the smaller one costs £155 for the evening. So that is
looking pretty good to me right now.

If I don't get any other volunteers I may consider making it a Magnum
Solutions sponsored event (if it only costs £150!)

Dave...



Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship

2001-02-06 Thread Steve Mynott

Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 07:29:53AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
  I've been investigating places to hold Damian's meeting and I've already
  got some interesting leads (the Conway Hall looks like it might well
  work out!)
 
 Conway Hall would be a great venue, for the name alone!
 
 It can't be too expensive, because it's used by any number of
 fringe anarcho groups, who presumably don't have too much cash
 spilling around.

It would also be quite an interesting venue with a lot of character
and Holborn is easy to get to (central and north of the river).

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Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship

2001-02-06 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Robin Houston wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 07:29:53AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
  I've been investigating places to hold Damian's meeting and I've already
  got some interesting leads (the Conway Hall looks like it might well
  work out!)

 Conway Hall would be a great venue, for the name alone!

 It can't be too expensive, because it's used by any number of
 fringe anarcho groups, who presumably don't have too much cash
 spilling around.


Yeah, in the late seventies - early eighties you used to get bands the
like of Crass and Crisis playing there (use Google you yoofs) I think it
is (the hall that is ) thinged up with some religious group with strong
socialist (in the general rather than party sense) political views ...

/J\
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Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship

2001-02-06 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On 6 Feb 2001, Piers Cawley wrote:

It was Piers that started posting to the wrong list guv honest ...

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Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship

2001-02-06 Thread Dave Cross

At 22:26 06/02/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote:

Oi! Davorg! stop posting to the wrong list and confusing everyone :)

You're the third person to point this out to me - and it wasn't me who 
started it. The culprit has been identified and told off :)

Dave...

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Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship

2001-02-06 Thread Piers Cawley

Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 At 22:26 06/02/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 
 Oi! Davorg! stop posting to the wrong list and confusing everyone :)
 
 You're the third person to point this out to me - and it wasn't me who
 started it. The culprit has been identified and told off :)

I'm very, very sorry.

-- 
Piers




Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-30 Thread Simon Wistow

Matthew Jones wrote:
 
 So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you
 for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis?

For the love of God NO! Every time you're down in This I end up the next
morning feeling fragile wearing nothing but a traffic cone and a
policwoman's helmet ;)





Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Philip Newton

Mark Fowler wrote:
 [2] Bath.pm roots showing.  We used to discuss a fair amount 
 of technical (but not necessary perl related) stuff.  From
 this, I quickly progressed into the well rounded perl programmer
 I am today

Is that "well rounded perl programmer" in the sense that "grep is well
rounded"?

g,drvvf

Cheers,
Philip



RE: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Matthew Jones

Speaking from a personal standpoint, I really enjoy the
technical meetings and think more of them would be really beneficial[2].  
I think they represent a lot of what we are us to and show that we're 
all not just talk 'n booze.  Hence I'm anxious to see them succeed.

I'd like to be able to attend your technical meetings, since compared to the
majority of you lot I'm pretty green, having only been using perl for just
over eighteen months. And this:

Bath.pm roots showing.  We used to discuss a fair amount of technical
(but not necessary perl related) stuff.  From this, I quickly progressed
into the well rounded perl programmer I am today[3]

Works for me as a testimonial to *.pm tech meetings. Tech meetings good.
Learning things from sharp people good.

So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you
for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis?

-- 
matt



RE: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Cross

At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:27:41 -, Matthew Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to 
 join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular 
 basis?

We'd be very happy for you to come along whenever you wanted to.

Dave...



Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Matthew Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you
 for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis?
 

i assume odd beer is a typo and you mean't odd beers, i.e. an odd number
of beers ( i've also decided that 1 is not an odd number )

seriously, i'm sure everyone would welcome you with open arms

greg

-- 
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Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Michael Stevens

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:41:38PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 i assume odd beer is a typo and you mean't odd beers, i.e. an odd number
 of beers ( i've also decided that 1 is not an odd number )
 seriously, i'm sure everyone would welcome you with open arms

We are perl.

you will be assimiliated.

Michael



Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Richard Clamp

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:28:07PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:27:41PM -, Matthew Jones wrote:
 
  So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you
  for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis?
 
 You will, of course, be assimilated and ultimately move to That London.
 Just like that northern tyke Mr. Clamp did.

Northern, why I oughta!

I'm from Birmingham damnit[0], which though north of the M25, is nowhere near
as grim as proper up north.

[0] It's full name being 'Birmingham - damnit, now how do I get through this
sodding one way system'

-- 
Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread David Cantrell

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:54:26PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 the minute i cross the river, i can feel grimness coming upon me

And they all talk funny.  North of the river they're all called Hamish
and Angus, and they wear flat caps and have whippets.

 Greg (who was surfing for flats in balham this weekend and spotted one on
   dave's road ;-) )

You don't want to live there then.  Slum landlords and all that.

-- 
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/

   Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced



Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Rob Partington

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 And they all talk funny.  North of the river they're all called Hamish
 and Angus, and they wear flat caps and have whippets.

'eyup!  My uncle used to race greyhounds and whippets (and pigeons!)
and I have a flat cap.  But I don't talk funny, and I'm not called Hamish.
-- 
rob partington % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://lynx.browser.org/



RE: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Matthew Jones

 the minute i cross the river, i can feel grimness coming upon me

And they all talk funny.  North of the river they're all called Hamish
and Angus, and they wear flat caps and have whippets.

Eeeh, lad, 'appen tha's f'gottent' pigeon-fancying[1] and breakfasts
consisting entirely of clotted blood wrapped up in guts.

Mind you, as I've said elsewhere, the beer's *dead* cheap, and
properly-made. Which is why I tend to drink fizzy lager in That, because
I've yet to find a rub-a-dub that serves a decent pint of Real Ale[0]. Like
Old Eli or Enoch's Hammer from the Sair Inn[2].

-- 
matt
[0]Of course there's no ulterior motive for me wanting to come to That.pm
meetings ...
[1] Well done, Rob.
[2] http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/6006/sair.htm



Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:54:26 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  
  the minute i cross the river, i can feel grimness coming upon me
 
 AOL/ One of the big plus points for this jobs was that it was on the
 right (i.e. south) side of the river.
 
  Greg (who was surfing for flats in balham this weekend and spotted 
  one on dave's road ;-) )
 
 Do you know what number it was?
 

it doesnt say on the main website and the links down to the
fuller detail picture

its being let my sheraton law if thats any help

just think of the sitcom possibilities if i lived above you
Dave? heh? heh? ;-) ;-)

greg

-- 
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Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Simon Wistow

Matthew Jones wrote:

 Dave is sitting in his living room, leafing through his back issues of
 "Canned Food and Preserved Rations Monthly". 

Wrong Dave. More like "Dave is lounging casually in his Chippendale,
stroking his gold plated cat and having his feet massaged by a minion.
Another lackey is reading aloud from the latest issue of 'Being rich
monthly' but Dave halts him with a flick of his bejewelled hand sends
him scurrying away, tugging his forelock as he backs out of the room,
hi-salamming as he goes. He is just musing whether or not to go riding
in his Zeppelin throwing gold coins to the supplicating paupers below
when Greg walks in ..."



RE: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 January 2001 15:34

 just think of the sitcom possibilities if i lived above you
 Dave? heh? heh? ;-) ;-)

Bit tricky that. What with us living in a house and all that.

Dave...

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Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:28:07PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:27:41PM -, Matthew Jones wrote:
 
  So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you
  for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis?
 
 You will, of course, be assimilated and ultimately move to That London.

Or California like some London.pm'ers. Great weather, AND
you don't have to get up in at four in t'morning t'lick road
clean. (They have illegally present Mexicans for that.)

Paul



Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread David Cantrell

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:57:00PM +, Chris Benson wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:48:33PM +, Richard Clamp wrote:
  
  I'm from Birmingham damnit[0], which though north of the M25, is nowhere near
  as grim as proper up north.
 
 Oi! where you calling grim

http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/maps/britain.gif

So there.

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RE: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:

 From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 29 January 2001 15:34

  just think of the sitcom possibilities if i lived above you
  Dave? heh? heh? ;-) ;-)

 Bit tricky that. What with us living in a house and all that.


We have seagulls on our roof, perhaps grep meant to be building a nest on
your chimney ?

/J\
-- 
Jonathan Stowe   |
http://www.gellyfish.com |   I'm with Grep on this one
http://www.tackleway.co.uk   |




Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:
 
  From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 29 January 2001 15:34
 
   just think of the sitcom possibilities if i lived above you
   Dave? heh? heh? ;-) ;-)
 
  Bit tricky that. What with us living in a house and all that.
 
 
 We have seagulls on our roof, perhaps grep meant to be building a nest on
 your chimney ?
 

ok scratch that, the idea for the sitcom is i'm the lodger, dave had
to rent out his flat because he needed the cash --- err no, thats
a bit too far fetched even for a sitcom

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-27 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 Doesn't bi-monthly mean every tw months?
 

yes, and if there is any doubt, i recommend looking up ``bi'' on
your favourite search engine ;-)


-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-26 Thread Mark Fowler

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote:

 How do people feel about going back to State51? Does someone want to 
 contact the ICA?

Hmm.  No one seems to have replied to this[1].  I think the lack of
response seems to indicate that no-one has any objections to either
venue.  I personally thought State51 was very good, but I'm all for
variety in the venue.

What kind of deal were the ICA offering us?
 
 Any other suggestions?

nitpick
Yeah, the web site sez that technical meetings are bi-monthly.  Shouldn't
we change this as they're only monthly (though half way though the month.)
/nitpick

Later.

Mark.

 

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Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-26 Thread Natalie Ford

At 23:11 26/01/01, you wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote:

  How do people feel about going back to State51? Does someone want to
  contact the ICA?

Hmm.  No one seems to have replied to this[1].

[1] ?

I have replied to this, off list, because the preferences I expressed were 
personal and medical...  ;-)

Natalie




Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-26 Thread Mark Fowler

 [1] ?

Ooops, I know there was something I'd missed off the bottom of the
message.  That'll teach me to watch TV, eat, use irc, and post at the same
time

[1] Unless I've missed it due to the large amount of mail, or someone has
replied off off list.
 
 I have replied to this, off list, because the preferences I expressed were 
 personal and medical...  ;-)

Fairy Nuff.  Speaking from a personal standpoint, I really enjoy the
technical meetings and think more of them would be really beneficial[2].  I
think they represent a lot of what we are us to and show that we're all
not just talk 'n booze.  Hence I'm anxious to see them succeed.

If not any of the venues discussed then where?  If we need another venue
then someone should look into it[4] asap, and we can see what we can do.

Later.

Mark.

[2] Bath.pm roots showing.  We used to discuss a fair amount of technical
(but not necessary perl related) stuff.  From this, I quickly progressed
into the well rounded perl programmer I am today[3]

[3] How well rounded is a matter of opinion.  Let's just say I wouldn't be
a scratch on what I am now without them.

[4] Which I'd do, but I'm not entirely sure how to go about.  Let's just
say that I've got my cow in the ditch here, and thus would be willing to
look into it if no-one else can come up with better suggestions.

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Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-25 Thread Dave Cross

I'm still looking for suggestions for venues for the next two technical
meetings (Feb 22  26). 

How do people feel about going back to State51? Does someone want to 
contact the ICA?

Any other suggestions?

Dave...



Re: Technical Meeting Agenda

2001-01-12 Thread Jo Walsh


 Venue: State 51 (full details - and a map? - to follow)

State51 is in a disused foam factory at 8-10 rhoda street, bethnal green,
near the junction of brick lane and bethnal green road.

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=533817Y=182479A=YZ=1
tube shoreditch (but closes early), bethnal green 10 mins, liverpool
street 15 mins, old street 15 mins, number 8 bus
(victoria-tcr-holborn-bank-here) right outside.

there's a big iron gate with 'state51' painted on it. go in and at the far
end is a metal staircase. we're at the top.
we may be slightly short of chairs. it may be a little chilly.
 
 We'll start with four or five lightning talks. Currently I've only got
 Robin talking about Oulipo, but I'm sure we can come up with a couple
 more between us.
 

i could do 5 mins on what fun it is to build a perl jobs database with
tangram and template toolkit. (it's in testing atm) if you like.

jo






RE: Technical Meeting Agenda

2001-01-12 Thread Jo Walsh


  i could do 5 mins on what fun it is to build a perl jobs database with
  tangram and template toolkit. (it's in testing atm) if you like.
 
 That would be cool. Do you want to publicise the URL or is it a Big Secret?

i will do that when it is not not quite finished. like what it is now :)

jo







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