Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 08:26:55PM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
 
  Damian Conway [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
 
   Hecate was the goddess of the night, of magic, and travel at night.
   She was a cousin of Zeus, and dwelt quietly in the Underworld.
  
  Hecate was the daughter of Zeus in another treatment of the history 
  though everyone at some point was spawn of Zeus it would seem.
 
 And in yet another history, she was the daughter of the titans Perses and
 Asteria.
 

Boy, people who just read the weekly summary are in for a shock this week ;-)

Greg

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Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-17 Thread Damian Conway

*The latter is much beloved of modern Goddess worshippers -- as the
*third personification of the Goddess. They'll have your guts
*(or worse!) for garters if they catch you confusing Her with
*that bitch Ate ;-)

None of the gods were exactly sweetness and light. Hec'ate wasn't anyone
to sneer in the direction of Ate. :)

H. Hecate may well have been a genuine grrrl, but I don't think she
was in the same league as Ate, who was a bitter, twisted, warmongering,
misandronist, psycho.

"Not that there's anything *wrong* with that."

;-)

Damian





Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-17 Thread David Cantrell

On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 08:26:55PM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:

 Damian Conway [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:

  Hecate was the goddess of the night, of magic, and travel at night.
  She was a cousin of Zeus, and dwelt quietly in the Underworld.
 
 Hecate was the daughter of Zeus in another treatment of the history 
 though everyone at some point was spawn of Zeus it would seem.

And in yet another history, she was the daughter of the titans Perses and
Asteria.

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Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-16 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Damian Conway ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 The latter is much beloved of modern Goddess worshippers -- as the
 third personification of the Goddess. 
 

As can be witnessed in BtVS Season 2, Epsiode 16. Where Amy goes
around calling forth the power of Hecate and turning Buffy into
the Buffy-rat.

See, the case for replacing Classics with BtVS classes in schools
grows stronger by the day!

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Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-16 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton

Damian Conway [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
*
*Ate was the goddess of folly, strife, discord, and mischief.
*She was a daughter of Zeus, banished to Earth for her wickness
*in leading men astray.
*
*Hecate was the goddess of the night, of magic, and travel at night.
*She was a cousin of Zeus, and dwelt quietly in the Underworld.

Hecate was the daughter of Zeus in another treatment of the history 
though everyone at some point was spawn of Zeus it would seem.
Ate was also the daughter of Zeus. I've never seen her referred to as a
cousin of Zeus...Zeus didn't leave too many family members around to
produce such cousins :)

She is also known as Pyrtania and the Invincible Queen.

*The latter is much beloved of modern Goddess worshippers -- as the
*third personification of the Goddess. They'll have your guts
*(or worse!) for garters if they catch you confusing Her with
*that bitch Ate ;-)

None of the gods were exactly sweetness and light. Hec'ate wasn't anyone
to sneer in the direction of Ate. :)

e.



Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-15 Thread Damian Conway

Ate, incidentally, is a contraction of Hecate, which wouldn't have
scanned as well.

Err, just quietly Dave, that proves not to be the case.

Ate was the goddess of folly, strife, discord, and mischief.
She was a daughter of Zeus, banished to Earth for her wickness
in leading men astray.

Hecate was the goddess of the night, of magic, and travel at night.
She was a cousin of Zeus, and dwelt quietly in the Underworld.

The latter is much beloved of modern Goddess worshippers -- as the
third personification of the Goddess. They'll have your guts
(or worse!) for garters if they catch you confusing Her with
that bitch Ate ;-)

Damian





Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-15 Thread David Cantrell

On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 08:48:10PM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
 Ate, incidentally, is a contraction of Hecate, which wouldn't have
 scanned as well.
 
 Err, just quietly Dave, that proves not to be the case.
 
 Ate was the goddess of folly, strife, discord, and mischief.
 She was a daughter of Zeus, banished to Earth for her wickness
 in leading men astray.
 
 Hecate was the goddess of the night, of magic, and travel at night.
 She was a cousin of Zeus, and dwelt quietly in the Underworld.

She was also a death-goddess, and the mistress of the black arts and
of witchcraft.  And she had Cerberus as a pet.  She was especially
singled out as evil in the middle ages.  Also note the two lines after
"Cry Havoc":

   That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
   With carrion men, groaning for burial

One thing that Hecate did was running around with her dogs gathering
the souls of the wandering dead and taking them to Hades.

It seems that both Ate and Hecate would be reasonable readings.  Perhaps
Billy Shakers did that on purpose.

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Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-15 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 08:48:10PM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:

All roads lead to London.pm, 'twould seem.

Welcome aboard crewmates!

Paul



Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-15 Thread Nathan Torkington

Damian Conway writes:
 Ate was the goddess of folly, strife, discord, and mischief.
 She was a daughter of Zeus, banished to Earth for her wickness
 in leading men astray.
 ^^

 [...]
 (or worse!) for garters if they catch you confusing Her with
 that bitch Ate ;-)

That's my kind of bitch :-)

Nat




Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-14 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, you wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 
  ooh .. that reminds me .. the Census man has just dropped a form in .. I
  didn't reallise it was this year .. excellent .. now dont forget .. your
  religion is 'Jedi' ok ?
 
 
 WHy not 'Perl Monger' ?

because for it to be accepted as an official religion (whatever the hell
that is) you need 20,000 people in the country to claim to follow it ..
then it gets all the usual benfits of being able to claim anti-jedi
discrimination, the right to bring a light sabre to work, extra days
holiday because The Force is weak today etc. I cant quite see 20,000 Perl
Mongers .. but hey .. I could be wrong

Actually, that reminds me of a Jefferson quotation:

"I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know."

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-14 Thread David Cantrell

On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:52:41AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, you wrote:
  
  Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war! - is one of my all time
  favourite quotes
 
 :) ... I am never sure whether the exclamation mark is on havoc or the
 end of the quote.

If you take it in its original context, the reading becomes apparent.
Anthony, somewhat distraught at his recent treasonous act, says:

... And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war,
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.

(Julius Caesar, Act 3 scene 1, 271-275)

Ate, incidentally, is a contraction of Hecate, which wouldn't have scanned
as well.  She was a goddess of the underworld, who just happened to have
a pack of rather large dogs.

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Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-14 Thread David Cantrell

On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 10:25:33AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:

 because for it to be accepted as an official religion (whatever the hell
 that is) you need 20,000 people in the country to claim to follow it ..

This is of course bullshit, but then you all knew that already, right?
If you fill in your own made-up religion, then you'll just get lumped in
with all the other weirdoes regardless of whether you put Jedi, Discordian,
Cthulhuan or whatever.

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Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-14 Thread Dave Cross

At 10:25 14/04/2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, you wrote:
  On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
  
   ooh .. that reminds me .. the Census man has just dropped a form in .. I
   didn't reallise it was this year .. excellent .. now dont forget .. your
   religion is 'Jedi' ok ?
  
 
  WHy not 'Perl Monger' ?

because for it to be accepted as an official religion (whatever the hell
that is) you need 20,000 people in the country to claim to follow it ..
then it gets all the usual benfits of being able to claim anti-jedi
discrimination, the right to bring a light sabre to work, extra days
holiday because The Force is weak today etc. I cant quite see 20,000 Perl
Mongers .. but hey .. I could be wrong

The number quoted in the email was 200,000 - but that apparently applies in 
New Zealand where this idea started. Someone changed NZ to UK on the email 
without checking facts. On the UK Census, no religion except the ones 
listed will be counted. All of the 'others' will be counted in one bucket. 
so, IMHO, you'd be far better off demonstrating to our horribly Xtian 
government just how many of us are atheist.

Sorry to spoil the fun!

Dave...



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Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:29:13AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
 nah you didn't say something weird like Willow (or Riley) is the
 sexiest in BtVS.

But but...


Martin



Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:57:38AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
 
 Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   ooh .. that reminds me .. the Census man has just dropped a form in .. I
   didn't reallise it was this year .. excellent .. now dont forget .. your
   religion is 'Jedi' ok ?
  
  putting jedi is a bad idea
  
  its you letting the shoreditch lot win
 
 Viral marketing doesn't work. Tell all your friends.

*looks down at t-shirt*

Cool, it mutates :-)


Martin



Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-14 Thread Martin Ling

On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:42:21AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
 
 On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:04:15AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
  ooh .. that reminds me .. the Census man has just dropped a form in .. I
  didn't reallise it was this year .. excellent .. now dont forget .. your
  religion is 'Jedi' ok ?
 
 "Discordian". No, seriously. (Fnord)

Well, yes. I will just be slightly miffed when only 9,999 people put
'Jedi'...

...and they will be *very* miffed. Hail Eris!


Martin



Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-14 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, David Cantrell wrote:

 On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 10:25:33AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:

  because for it to be accepted as an official religion (whatever the hell
  that is) you need 20,000 people in the country to claim to follow it ..

 This is of course bullshit, but then you all knew that already, right?
 If you fill in your own made-up religion, then you'll just get lumped in
 with all the other weirdoes regardless of whether you put Jedi, Discordian,
 Cthulhuan or whatever.


I was under the impression that if a large enough sample of people
indicated the same 'alternative religion' in the census then it would
achieve a degree of statistical significance to  cause it to get on the
summary statistics that are published - I dont think that it has any
bearing on its official acceptance however ...


/J\




The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-13 Thread Greg McCarroll




I just saw this ...

http://www.jenerator.org/images/jh1.gif

and thought it was the coolest letter head i had seen, have you seen
a better one?

Greg



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Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-13 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, you wrote:
 I just saw this ...
 
 http://www.jenerator.org/images/jh1.gif
 
 and thought it was the coolest letter head i had seen, have you seen
 a better one?

yeah yeah yeah .. never mind that .. 

I think the content of the letter was more disturbing. I mean I always
thought Kermit was a Nice Guy(tm) .. but it looks like he got his Land
Sharks to write to someone threatening all sorts of heavy legal stuff
just for registering the domain muppetfucker.net .. damm I wish I had
thought of that one :)

I shall see Kermit in a whole different light now .. outside a cute green
frog .. inside a corporate power monger.

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-13 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, you wrote:
  I just saw this ...
  
  http://www.jenerator.org/images/jh1.gif
  
  and thought it was the coolest letter head i had seen, have you seen
  a better one?
 
 yeah yeah yeah .. never mind that .. 
 
 I think the content of the letter was more disturbing. I mean I always
 thought Kermit was a Nice Guy(tm) .. but it looks like he got his Land
 Sharks to write to someone threatening all sorts of heavy legal stuff
 just for registering the domain muppetfucker.net .. damm I wish I had
 thought of that one :)
 
 I shall see Kermit in a whole different light now .. outside a cute green
 frog .. inside a corporate power monger.
 

i cant really agree with you on this one - you create a business based
on some cuddly childrens (yes folks they are mean't for children) 
puppet shows and someone decides to make on the face of it an adult 
derived publication (website) from it


i think i'm with henson here



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Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-13 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:

 On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, you wrote:
  I just saw this ...
 
  http://www.jenerator.org/images/jh1.gif
 
  and thought it was the coolest letter head i had seen, have you seen
  a better one?

 yeah yeah yeah .. never mind that ..

 I think the content of the letter was more disturbing. I mean I always
 thought Kermit was a Nice Guy(tm) .. but it looks like he got his Land
 Sharks to write to someone threatening all sorts of heavy legal stuff
 just for registering the domain muppetfucker.net .. damm I wish I had
 thought of that one :)


You havent seen the Bert  Ernie stuff on the interweb then  :)

/J\




Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-13 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 You havent seen the Bert  Ernie stuff on the interweb then  :)
 

thats one of the best sections of the internet

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Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-13 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, you wrote:
 * Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, you wrote:
   I just saw this ...
   
   http://www.jenerator.org/images/jh1.gif
   
   and thought it was the coolest letter head i had seen, have you seen
   a better one?
  
  yeah yeah yeah .. never mind that .. 
  
  I think the content of the letter was more disturbing. I mean I always
  thought Kermit was a Nice Guy(tm) .. but it looks like he got his Land
  Sharks to write to someone threatening all sorts of heavy legal stuff
  just for registering the domain muppetfucker.net .. damm I wish I had
  thought of that one :)
  
  I shall see Kermit in a whole different light now .. outside a cute green
  frog .. inside a corporate power monger.
  
 
 i cant really agree with you on this one - you create a business based
 on some cuddly childrens (yes folks they are mean't for children) 
 puppet shows and someone decides to make on the face of it an adult 
 derived publication (website) from it

naaah .. the way I see it is this: The Frog Must Die. He has crossed to
the dark side. Him, and his accomplice the pig ...  We must rise as one
against the Green Felt Monster and destroy him. Join me now brothers in
this, our time of need. Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war! 

err have I gone over the top this time?

ooh .. that reminds me .. the Census man has just dropped a form in .. I
didn't reallise it was this year .. excellent .. now dont forget .. your
religion is 'Jedi' ok ?

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-13 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, you wrote:
  i cant really agree with you on this one - you create a business based
  on some cuddly childrens (yes folks they are mean't for children) 
  puppet shows and someone decides to make on the face of it an adult 
  derived publication (website) from it
 
 naaah .. the way I see it is this: The Frog Must Die. He has crossed to
 the dark side. Him, and his accomplice the pig ...  We must rise as one
 against the Green Felt Monster and destroy him. Join me now brothers in
 this, our time of need. Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war! 
 

Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war! - is one of my all time
favourite quotes

I try to work it into every busines meeting and ADD session


 err have I gone over the top this time?


nah you didn't say something weird like Willow (or Riley) is the
sexiest in BtVS.

 ooh .. that reminds me .. the Census man has just dropped a form in .. I
 didn't reallise it was this year .. excellent .. now dont forget .. your
 religion is 'Jedi' ok ?

putting jedi is a bad idea

its you letting the shoreditch lot win

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Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-13 Thread Simon Cozens

On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:04:15AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 ooh .. that reminds me .. the Census man has just dropped a form in .. I
 didn't reallise it was this year .. excellent .. now dont forget .. your
 religion is 'Jedi' ok ?

"Discordian". No, seriously. (Fnord)

-- 
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Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-13 Thread Piers Cawley

Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  ooh .. that reminds me .. the Census man has just dropped a form in .. I
  didn't reallise it was this year .. excellent .. now dont forget .. your
  religion is 'Jedi' ok ?
 
 putting jedi is a bad idea
 
 its you letting the shoreditch lot win

Viral marketing doesn't work. Tell all your friends.

-- 
Piers