Re: crazy golf

2001-06-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell

On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 05:41:43PM +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote:
 Beware, it's in Flash (or Shockwave)
 http://www.electrotank.com/lab/minigolf.html
 
 Hole 17 is a bugger

How much time did it take you to find out this incredible fact?

-Dom

-- 
| Semantico: creators of major online resources  |
|   URL: http://www.semantico.com/   |
|   Tel: +44 (1273) 72   |
|   Address: 33 Bond St., Brighton, Sussex, BN1 1RD, UK. |



crazy golf

2001-06-14 Thread Chris Heathcote

Beware, it's in Flash (or Shockwave)
http://www.electrotank.com/lab/minigolf.html

Hole 17 is a bugger

c.
-- 
 every day, computers are making people easier to use

  http://www.unorthodoxstyles.com




Re: crazy golf

2001-06-04 Thread Redvers Davies

 Assuming you're not a Masai tribesperson. And assuming that the
 Romans weren't lying about the Celts (Though why would they want to do
 that?)

It would seem to me to be counter-productive.  If you want to conquer
a country you don't spread rumours that they drink their victims blood.




Re: crazy golf

2001-06-04 Thread Simon Batistoni

On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 02:31:39PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
  Assuming you're not a Masai tribesperson. And assuming that the
  Romans weren't lying about the Celts (Though why would they want to do
  that?)
 
 It would seem to me to be counter-productive.  If you want to conquer
 a country you don't spread rumours that they drink their victims blood.

Well why not? It allows you to claim a moral reason for conquering them in the first 
place (which is as
necessary for keeping morale and a sense of purpose among your own people as anything 
else), and quite
possibly has longer-term military benefits, as in The Celts were a bunch of mad, 
blood-drinking nutters, 
But we conquered them anyway, so why don't you open your doors and play nicely, and we 
won't have to
unleash our fearsome military power upon you.

For some reason, the mental image of a horde of wild Celts quaffing blood keeps mixing 
in my head with that
of a bunch of perl programmers in a cellar bar, quaffing TVRs...

Must be the full moon :)

-- 

simon batistoni | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 stop right here
 cos i know where i'm going to



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-04 Thread Jonathan Peterson

At 14:31 04/06/01 +, you wrote:
  Assuming you're not a Masai tribesperson. And assuming that the
  Romans weren't lying about the Celts (Though why would they want to do
  that?)

It would seem to me to be counter-productive.  If you want to conquer
a country you don't spread rumours that they drink their victims blood.

Sure you do. That way everyone thinks they are barbarians, and they don't 
mind you invading them and civilising them. As it happens the Celts were 
barbarians*, and the Romans did bring civilisation to them (insert relevant 
Life of Brian sketch).

You also spread rumours of there being lots of gold and so many pearls 
they lie uncollected on the beaches. Works like a charm.


*This is not a value judgement so just don't start.


-- 
Jonathan Peterson
Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: crazy golf

2001-06-04 Thread Simon Cozens

On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 01:38:44AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
 Assuming you're not a Masai tribesperson.

On this list, anything is possible.

-- 
I don't understand how people can think SCSI is anything more quirky
than a genius with peculiar dietary requirements in a world where the
creators of Notes, and their new owners, are allowed to walk the streets
without fearing for their very lives. - Graham Reed, asr



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-04 Thread David Cantrell

On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 02:31:39PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:

  Assuming you're not a Masai tribesperson. And assuming that the
  Romans weren't lying about the Celts (Though why would they want to do
  that?)
 
 It would seem to me to be counter-productive.  If you want to conquer
 a country you don't spread rumours that they drink their victims blood.

True, cos that would tend to unsettle your troops.  However, as a post
facto rationalisation, it's great.  Look at how well off you are under
your Roman overlords!  Your kings no longer drink your blood!

-- 
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/

  Good advice is always certain to be ignored,
  but that's no reason not to give it-- Agatha Christie



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Richard Clamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 07:40:46PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
  I'm still up for organizing it - its just herding you cats up in one place
  is the problem.
 
 If you book it, they will come.
 

i suggest booking it for the saturday on the next bank holiday weekend

this feels *good*

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 * Richard Clamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 07:40:46PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
   I'm still up for organizing it - its just herding you cats up in one place
   is the problem.
 
  If you book it, they will come.
 

 i suggest booking it for the saturday on the next bank holiday weekend

 this feels *good*



Well we will all have recovered from Amsterdam by then :)

Sounds like a plan.

/J\




Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
  * Richard Clamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 07:40:46PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
I'm still up for organizing it - its just herding you cats up in one place
is the problem.
  
   If you book it, they will come.
  
 
  i suggest booking it for the saturday on the next bank holiday weekend
 
  this feels *good*
 
 
 
 Well we will all have recovered from Amsterdam by then :)
 
 Sounds like a plan.
 

so when is the next bang holiday weekend?

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Paul Mison

On 01/06/2001 at 13:03 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

so when is the next bang holiday weekend?

2001-08-27. Hence the crazy golf must be on 2001-08-25. (Palm Desktop)++

The next one after that is in December. (Anyone standing on the
platform of reforming bank holidays? I'd buy that for a dollar.)

--
:: paul
:: stay all day
:: if you want to





Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 * Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 
   * Richard Clamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 07:40:46PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 I'm still up for organizing it - its just herding you cats up in one place
 is the problem.
   
If you book it, they will come.
   
  
   i suggest booking it for the saturday on the next bank holiday weekend
  
   this feels *good*
  
  
 
  Well we will all have recovered from Amsterdam by then :)
 
  Sounds like a plan.
 

 so when is the next bang holiday weekend?


The next *bank* holiday is in august.  The bang holiday could be anytime
:)

/J\




Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 * Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
  
   * Richard Clamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 07:40:46PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 I'm still up for organizing it - its just herding you cats up in one place
 is the problem.
   
If you book it, they will come.
   
  
   i suggest booking it for the saturday on the next bank holiday weekend
  
   this feels *good*
  
  
  
  Well we will all have recovered from Amsterdam by then :)
  
  Sounds like a plan.
  
 
 so when is the next bang holiday weekend?
 

blech has just informed me, its 27/8/2001, which would make
the first annual grand London.pm crazy golf open on the 25/8/2001

now what do people want to do? go to hastings and return the
same day? stay over?   

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Marcel Grunauer

On Friday, June 1, 2001, at 02:07  PM, Paul Mison wrote:

 On 01/06/2001 at 13:03 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 so when is the next bang holiday weekend?

 2001-08-27. Hence the crazy golf must be on 2001-08-25. (Palm Desktop)++

Cool; I might actually be in London that weekend.

Marcel

--
$ perl -we time
Useless use of time in void context at -e line 1.



RE: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Cross David - dcross

From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:10 PM

 blech has just informed me, its 27/8/2001, which would make
 the first annual grand London.pm crazy golf open on the 25/8/2001
 
 now what do people want to do? go to hastings and return the
 same day? stay over?   

Luckily for you all, I'll be in Edinburgh that weekend. This will make it an
altogether more evenly matched game. Having grown up at the seaside my crazy
golf is pretty shit-hot :)

Dave...

-- 


The information contained in this communication is
confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient
named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader 
of this message is not the intended recipient, you are
hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or
copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.  
If you have received this communication in error, please 
re-send this communication to the sender and delete the 
original message or any copy of it from your computer
system.



RE: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Cross David - dcross

From: Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:07 PM

 (Anyone standing on the platform of reforming bank holidays? 
 I'd buy that for a dollar.)

Whatever happened to the plan to do away with that nasty socialist holiday
on Mayday and replace with something much more Jingoistic - Trafalgar Day
wasn't it?

Dave...
[who thinks it's about time we decimalised the calendar]

-- 


The information contained in this communication is
confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient
named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader 
of this message is not the intended recipient, you are
hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or
copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.  
If you have received this communication in error, please 
re-send this communication to the sender and delete the 
original message or any copy of it from your computer
system.



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Dominic Mitchell

On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:16:51PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
 From: Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:07 PM
 
  (Anyone standing on the platform of reforming bank holidays? 
  I'd buy that for a dollar.)
 
 Whatever happened to the plan to do away with that nasty socialist holiday
 on Mayday and replace with something much more Jingoistic - Trafalgar Day
 wasn't it?
 
 Dave...
 [who thinks it's about time we decimalised the calendar]

What a stunningly daft idea!  It might just work!

Actually, I think we should go back to using base60 numbers instead,
so that time and dates just fall out of the wash (I think the ancient
sumerians used them).

-Dom

-- 
| Semantico: creators of major online resources  |
|   URL: http://www.semantico.com/   |
|   Tel: +44 (1273) 72   |
|   Address: 33 Bond St., Brighton, Sussex, BN1 1RD, UK. |



RE: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Paul Mison

On 01/06/2001 at 13:16 +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
From: Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:07 PM

 (Anyone standing on the platform of reforming bank holidays?
 I'd buy that for a dollar.)

Whatever happened to the plan to do away with that nasty socialist holiday
on Mayday and replace with something much more Jingoistic - Trafalgar Day
wasn't it?

Um. Bad example. Unfortunately May Day is at a *really* silly point,
coming just after Easter and just before the 'Early Summer' (aka
Whitsun) Bank Holiday. (Thankfully the same arguments tend to work
against St George's Day as a bank holiday- far too jingoistic).
Unfortunately it's the only one of those three I care about.

Anyway, Trafalgar Day would be in October- that's a shite idea, the
weather's awful. We [0] want June and July holidays how about US
Independence Day? We've imported plenty of other ideas from them. Hmm.
Or make the Queen's Birthday celebrations be on a Monday and make that
a bank holiday, if you have to wrap things up in pageantry. (Isn't
there an extra bank holiday next year for Golden Jubilee shenanigans?)

(Wondering if this shouldn't cross the (void)/london-lists osmosis barrier)

[0] Well, I, but I'm probably not alone here.

--
:: paul
:: stay all day
:: if you want to





Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Roger Burton West

On or about Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:27:44PM +0100, Paul Mison typed:

(Isn't
there an extra bank holiday next year for Golden Jubilee shenanigans?)

http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/bankhol.htm



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  how about US
 Independence Day?

We call that Thanksgiving...

-- 
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star   http://www.deep-purple.com
  Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
   



RE: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Jonathan Peterson

At 13:27 01/06/01 +0100, you wrote:

weather's awful. We [0] want June and July holidays how about US

Quite the opposite!!! We need more winter holidays to cheer us up during 
those dark rainy months. We should have holidays for all the major Saint's 
days, and get rid of silly artificial things like Mayday. Or we should just 
not work half the time, like the French.




-- 
Jonathan Peterson
Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Barbie

From: Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 (Isn't
 there an extra bank holiday next year for Golden Jubilee shenanigans?)

Apparently so.

Allegedly there is a move to bring the UK more into line with the rest of
Europe with regards to bank holidays. Several European nations put us to
shame when you compare us with countries like Germany (14 days IIRC). The
Golden Jubilee is the first to be introduced, with another 3 added over the
next few years. I guess the Golden Jubilee one will then be known as
Coronation Day or some such.

There was a link all about it on the bbc site, but that was earlier in the
year when I was living that other life, blissfully unaware I was about to be
made redundant :)

Barbie.





Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Robert Shiels

From: Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On or about Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:27:44PM +0100, Paul Mison typed:

 (Isn't
 there an extra bank holiday next year for Golden Jubilee shenanigans?)

 http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/bankhol.htm

Well, as today is my first day working as a contractor, I want less
holidays, so that I can make more money. Thinking about it again, I'll just
make sure that the system needs some essential maintenance those days, and
increase my rate appropriately!

/Robert




Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread David Cantrell

On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:10:22PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 blech has just informed me, its 27/8/2001, which would make
 the first annual grand London.pm crazy golf open on the 25/8/2001

ECLASHESWITHLBW

-- 
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/

  Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our most advanced operating system
   in the world which we decided to release incomplete just for a laugh



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Piers Cawley

Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 At 13:27 01/06/01 +0100, you wrote:
 
 weather's awful. We [0] want June and July holidays how about US
 
 Quite the opposite!!! We need more winter holidays to cheer us up
 during those dark rainy months. We should have holidays for all the
 major Saint's days, and get rid of silly artificial things like
 Mayday. Or we should just not work half the time, like the French.

Personally I'd rather get rid of the overtly christian holidays and
stick with good old pagan stuff like May day. And not because of the
labour movement, it's a *way* older holiday than that.

-- 
Piers Cawley
www.iterative-software.com




Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Jonathan Peterson

At 14:23 01/06/01 +0100, you wrote:
Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Personally I'd rather get rid of the overtly christian holidays and
stick with good old pagan stuff like May day. And not because of the
labour movement, it's a *way* older holiday than that.

True enough - but look!

Among the nine saints that are celebrated on 1st may is St Joseph who is 
the patron saint of those who fight against communism. YAY

No, I'm not making this up: 
http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/pst00162.htm

insert thesis discussing how Saints are Christianity's interface with 
pagan tradition



-- 
Jonathan Peterson
Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Cross David - dcross

From: Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:28 PM

 On 01/06/2001 at 13:16 +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
 
 Whatever happened to the plan to do away with that nasty socialist
holiday
 on Mayday and replace with something much more Jingoistic - Trafalgar Day
 wasn't it?
 
 Um. Bad example. Unfortunately May Day is at a *really* silly point,
 coming just after Easter and just before the 'Early Summer' (aka
 Whitsun) Bank Holiday. 

No. _Good_ example. Neatly demonstrating the madness of baseing public
holidays around the vagaries of a minority religion. It's not Mayday that's
causing a problem here, but the three xtian dates. Abolish them and replace
them with three other holidays spaced out in a more sensible fashion.

Besides, people have been celebrating Mayday for _far_ longer than Easter.

 Anyway, Trafalgar Day would be in October- that's a shite idea, the
 weather's awful. We [0] want June and July holidays how about US
 Independence Day? We've imported plenty of other ideas from them. Hmm.

I wouldn't mind a holiday in late September or October. Thanks to global
warming that's often a pretty warm part of the year.

Actually, celebrating US Independence Day makes a certain amount of sense.
It's certainly a war _I'd_ have fought to lose :)

 Or make the Queen's Birthday celebrations be on a Monday and make that
 a bank holiday, if you have to wrap things up in pageantry.

Only a very short term solution. What do you do when we become a republic?
(checks - wait a minute, that pledge seems to be missing from my copy of the
Labour Manifesto, shurely shome mishtake)

 (Isn't there an extra bank holiday next year for Golden Jubilee
shenanigans?)

$deity, don't remind me. As mentioned on the walk on Monday, I think our
best hope is that the QM[1] dies at about the same time and it all cancels
out :)

Dave...

[1] But you've got to admit, she does look good for her age. Yeah, well so
would I if I HADN'T DONE A FUCKING DECENT DAY'S WORK IN MY LIFE.

-- 



The information contained in this communication is
confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient
named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader 
of this message is not the intended recipient, you are
hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or
copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.  
If you have received this communication in error, please 
re-send this communication to the sender and delete the 
original message or any copy of it from your computer
system.



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 [1] But you've got to admit, she does look good for her age. Yeah, well so
 would I if I HADN'T DONE A FUCKING DECENT DAY'S WORK IN MY LIFE.
 

Well you don't look that good, and you are a contractor ;-)

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread David Cantrell

On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:40:38PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:

  Or make the Queen's Birthday celebrations be on a Monday and make that
  a bank holiday, if you have to wrap things up in pageantry.
 
 Only a very short term solution. What do you do when we become a republic?

Then we have independence day, to celebrate the overthrowing of N hundred
years of Dutch and German oppression.  Yes, if I were a royalist, I'd be
a Jacobite.
 
 [1] But you've got to admit, she does look good for her age. Yeah, well so
 would I if I HADN'T DONE A FUCKING DECENT DAY'S WORK IN MY LIFE.

So *that's* the secret to your boyish good looks Dave! I knew there had
to be *something* good about contracting :-)

-- 
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/

  Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our most advanced operating system
   in the world which we decided to release incomplete just for a laugh



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Dean

On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:28:43PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 So *that's* the secret to your boyish good looks Dave! I knew there had
 to be *something* good about contracting :-)

That and getting to drain the life out of the permanent staff ;)

Dean
-- 
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand
   --- Anon



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Barbie

From: Cross David - dcross [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 From: Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Um. Bad example. Unfortunately May Day is at a *really* silly point,
  coming just after Easter and just before the 'Early Summer' (aka
  Whitsun) Bank Holiday.

 Besides, people have been celebrating Mayday for _far_ longer than Easter.

I find it strange that the only surviving English/British religion,
Paganism, is the target for being abolished. Mayday was traditionally the
fertility festival. It would make more sense to embrace the Pagan holidays
seeing as they are celebrated more evenly throughout the year. Plus they
don't glorify death and have a healthy celebration for life.

Barbie.





Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Simon Cozens

On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:53:53PM +0100, Barbie wrote:
 the only surviving English/British religion, Paganism

Nice try.

-- 
diff: usage diff [whatever] etc.
- plan9 has a bad day



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Barbie [easynet]

From: Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:53:53PM +0100, Barbie wrote:
  the only surviving English/British religion, Paganism
 
 Nice try.

Are you saying it isn't a religion or there is another one?

Barbie




Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Redvers Davies

 I find it strange that the only surviving English/British religion,

Nah, you want an interesting old religion, look at the Celts.  Drinking
blood has gone out of style though...



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Marcel Grunauer

On Friday, June 1, 2001, at 10:41  PM, Redvers Davies wrote:

 I find it strange that the only surviving English/British religion,

 Nah, you want an interesting old religion, look at the Celts.  Drinking
 blood has gone out of style though...

Has it? Angel drinks blood; Spike does as well.

Oops, wrong thread...

Marcel

--
$ perl -we time
Useless use of time in void context at -e line 1.



Re: crazy golf

2001-06-01 Thread Piers Cawley

Redvers Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I find it strange that the only surviving English/British religion,
 
 Nah, you want an interesting old religion, look at the Celts.  Drinking
 blood has gone out of style though...

Assuming you're not a Masai tribesperson. And assuming that the
Romans weren't lying about the Celts (Though why would they want to do
that?)

-- 
Piers Cawley
www.iterative-software.com




Re: crazy golf

2001-05-31 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Thu, 24 May 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:



 What ever happened to the london.pm crazy golf game?


I'm still up for organizing it - its just herding you cats up in one place
is the problem.


/J\




Re: crazy golf

2001-05-31 Thread Richard Clamp

On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 07:40:46PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 I'm still up for organizing it - its just herding you cats up in one place
 is the problem.

If you book it, they will come.

-- 
Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]



crazy golf

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll



What ever happened to the london.pm crazy golf game?


-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net