Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-18 Thread Mark Hynes
website? david@lapdog:~$ HEAD http://www.gateway.gov.uk|grep ^Server Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 That, and EDS and Microsoft being involved. Ah, so primarily blind bigotism then. Note that whilst other government sites may suffer from the same problems, What problems? Other than the people

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 02:00:32PM +0100, Mark Hynes wrote: On Jun 17, David Cantrell wrote: david@lapdog:~$ HEAD http://www.gateway.gov.uk|grep ^Server Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 That, and EDS and Microsoft being involved. Ah, so primarily blind bigotism then. No, they're using

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-17 Thread Mark Hynes
On Jun 09, David Cantrell wrote: So yes, the only reason for not allowing me to use it is incompetence on the part of whichever civil 'servants' were in charge of implementing it. Out of interest, does anyone know if it's done in-house or contracted out? (I strongly suspect the latter)

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-17 Thread David Cantrell
of the server for such important information as my (eg) medical and tax data. Err, why? What do you know about its implementation as opposed to any other government website? david@lapdog:~$ HEAD http://www.gateway.gov.uk|grep ^Server Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 That, and EDS and Microsoft being

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-13 Thread Chris Devers
At 07:14 AM 2001.06.13 +0100, Chris Benson wrote: I need to read the news more often, I was thinking about Louisiana! I also need to get a better grip of the geography: I thought LA. was the Florida side of Mississippi and Alabama. No, it's the place where I was born -- Lower Alabama. Also

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-13 Thread Mike Jarvis
Wednesday, June 13, 2001, 1:16:12 AM, Dave Cross wrote: DC On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:55:17PM -0500, Mike Jarvis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Larry speaks in a bit over 9 hours. Yippee! DC Actually - he doesn't :) DC http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=01/06/12/2255236 It all worked out ok.

RE: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-12 Thread Robert Thompson
From: Chris Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Why, when the sun is shining (almost) and there is a popular (?) govt. do I feel like I did in early/mid 70's: like the end of the world was nigh? Hmm, not sure... but is the feeling helped buy having someone in the White House who has no real

RE: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-12 Thread Robert Thompson
From: Paul Makepeace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] PS -- that is one truly obnoxiously big sig. I apologise profusely for my employers lawyers need to avoid any form of litigation due to something that I may or may not say to the right or wrong person while sending an email which may or may not

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-12 Thread Philip Newton
://www.gateway.gov.uk/ security system only lets users perform transactions when using IE. Opera challenges the UK government to support World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) standards and let British citizens enjoy full access to the Web from different browsers, platforms and devices. In the future

Obnoxious sigs (was Re: www.gateway.gov.uk)

2001-06-12 Thread Philip Newton
Robert Thompson wrote: I apologise profusely Sorry, you'll have to give me a hardcopy version of that before I'll believe you: E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or

Re: Obnoxious sigs (was Re: www.gateway.gov.uk)

2001-06-12 Thread Paul Makepeace
Isn't there some cough/ perl module that might allow us to rig a sig-stripper to be installed at dircon? Where sig = any trailer that has more than four un-para'ed lines. Or give these people a damn shell account. Or SOMETHING. (Actually I don't really care I just got carried away with the

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-12 Thread Struan Donald
* at 11/06 21:38 +0100 Robin Szemeti said: On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Chris Benson wrote: Didn't ukonline.co.uk complain about trademark infringement a while back? Is gateway.gov.uk the result? and is there any possible trademark confusion with this address? ring ring 'hello .. is

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-12 Thread Chris Benson
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 08:15:36AM +0100, Robert Thompson wrote: From: Chris Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Why, when the sun is shining (almost) and there is a popular (?) govt. do I feel like I did in early/mid 70's: like the end of the world was nigh? Hmm, not sure... but is

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-12 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 08:55:38PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote: Oh yes, I vaguely thought on reading about the floods in The South that maybe this was supposed to be a message like Repent your sins or I wash you off the face of the Earth. I think it's more along the lines of the Creator(s)

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-12 Thread Chris Benson
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 01:24:01PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 08:55:38PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote: Oh yes, I vaguely thought on reading about the floods in The South that maybe this was supposed to be a message like Repent your sins or I wash you off the face of

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-12 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Chris Benson wrote: I know a state-of-emergency (or whatever) has been called to right it has, as I understand it this means now that you are supposed to drive a 5.3L V8 rather than the 7.1L V8 unless absolutlely necessary ... oops .. read 358cubic inch and 427ci ... these

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-12 Thread Mike Jarvis
Tuesday, June 12, 2001, 2:55:38 PM, Chris Benson wrote: CB On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 08:15:36AM +0100, Robert Thompson wrote: From: Chris Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Why, when the sun is shining (almost) and there is a popular (?) govt. do I feel like I did in early/mid 70's: like

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-12 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:10:28PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote: Missed Texas by 500 miles? I think not. I was in Houston. Worst place on earth. I most definatly did NOT miss Texas. Houston rocks, although if I moved back it would be to Austin. Houston's humidity (the airborne type, as opposed

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-12 Thread Dave Cross
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:55:17PM -0500, Mike Jarvis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Larry speaks in a bit over 9 hours. Yippee! Actually - he doesn't :) http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=01/06/12/2255236 Dave... -- Drugs are just bad m'kay

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-12 Thread Chris Benson
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:10:28PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote: Tuesday, June 12, 2001, 2:55:38 PM, Chris Benson wrote: CB I wash you off the face of the Earth. If so it missed Washington DC CB by about a 1,000 miles and Texas by 500. It probably missed GWB by a CB couple of light years.

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-11 Thread Jonathan Peterson
At 18:51 09/06/01 +0100, you wrote: Monday morning Precisely. And using Java et al is a discrimination against the mobility impaired. Not to mention the way it discriminates totally against people who can't afford, don't have, morally object to, are too old to learn to use, computers. Sure,

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:56:19AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: At 18:51 09/06/01 +0100, you wrote: Monday morning Precisely. And using Java et al is a discrimination against the mobility impaired. Not to mention the way it discriminates totally against people who can't afford,

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-11 Thread Robert Shiels
From: Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not to mention the way it discriminates totally against people who can't afford, don't have, morally object to, are too old to learn to use, computers. How come. It's an alternative to, not a replacement for, the usual paper based forms; isn't it?

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-11 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:19:21AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:56:19AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: I haven't looked at the certificate issue, but most of the things I've read so far state that it's only a problem because they've made it a problem by using

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-11 Thread Chris Benson
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:26:39AM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: (If I understand the current requirements, you have to buy MacOS (from Apple) or Windows (from Microsoft) to run your free (no cost) browser) IIUIC IE on MacOS lets you look at the site, but you can't do anything useful due to

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-11 Thread Chris Benson
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:26:39AM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: (If I understand the current requirements, you have to buy MacOS (from Apple) or Windows (from Microsoft) to run your free (no cost) browser) Looking at open.gov.uk, there is mention of the move to ukonline.gov.uk but no mention

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-11 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Chris Benson wrote: Didn't ukonline.co.uk complain about trademark infringement a while back? Is gateway.gov.uk the result? and is there any possible trademark confusion with this address? ring ring 'hello .. is that the government? .. oh good. I'd like to complain

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-10 Thread Roger Horne
On Sat 09 Jun, Robert Shiels wrote: Assume for a moment that I'm using lynx on Linux, and I want to send the government my tax return securely. What are the security implications, can it actually be done. I don't want to go off half-cocked and complain about something when I don't fully

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-09 Thread Simon Cozens
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 01:27:08PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: As a public service I would exhort all of you to go to this site and then complain when it tells you that you are using an 'Unsupported Browser' (which I guess will be more than half of you :) Well done. The Reg picked this up

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-09 Thread Robert Shiels
From: Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: www.gateway.gov.uk As a public service I would exhort all of you to go to this site and then complain when it tells you that you are using an 'Unsupported Browser' (which I guess will be more than half of you :) I agree that this is pants. I

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-09 Thread David Cantrell
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 01:54:01PM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: From: Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] As a public service I would exhort all of you to go to this site and then complain when it tells you that you are using an 'Unsupported Browser' (which I guess will be more than half of

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-09 Thread Simon Cozens
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:06:24PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: So yes, the only reason for not allowing me to use it is incompetence on the part of whichever civil 'servants' were in charge of implementing it. And nothing to do with the deal struck between Microsoft and the government. No.

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-09 Thread David Cantrell
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:09:23PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:06:24PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: So yes, the only reason for not allowing me to use it is incompetence on the part of whichever civil 'servants' were in charge of implementing it. And nothing to

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-09 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Sat, 09 Jun 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: From: Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: www.gateway.gov.uk As a public service I would exhort all of you to go to this site and then complain when it tells you that you are using an 'Unsupported Browser' (which I guess will be more

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-09 Thread Simon Cozens
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:26:40PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: I tend not to pay much attention to conspiracy theories. Me neither. http://linuxtoday.com/imgs/microsoft/gateway-microsoft-rationale-statement.pdf -- This process can check if this value is zero, and if it is, it does something

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-09 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:10:38PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: I complained to the UK Online helpdesk .. they deny all responsiblity for the thing .. but can give you helpdesk contacts for the 3 government agencies contained within the 'government gateway' site .. of course they deny all

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-09 Thread Simon Cozens
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:59:48PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: Are these e-mail addresses? If so, does it make it possible to forward all 4 denials in 1 message To: all four and ask for one joined up government answer? http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/19340.html says the man to talk to

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-09 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Sat, 09 Jun 2001, Nicholas Clark wrote: On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:10:38PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: I complained to the UK Online helpdesk .. they deny all responsiblity for the thing .. but can give you helpdesk contacts for the 3 government agencies contained within the

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-09 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Simon Cozens wrote: On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:59:48PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: Are these e-mail addresses? If so, does it make it possible to forward all 4 denials in 1 message To: all four and ask for one joined up government answer?