the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Jo Walsh
lets kill off the old list before the two get too far out of sync jo ps sorry about mail bounces from partyvibe it will be down til next week :( -- a member of the state51 conspiracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: one liner

2001-01-11 Thread Shevek
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Michael Stevens wrote: I'm sure there are reasonable number of online manuals we'd all like printed copies of. Maybe we should see about costs for getting some of them printed fairly nicely and bound. I think the uni offers such a service here. -- Shevek I am the

Re: one liner

2001-01-11 Thread Michael Stevens
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 12:24:59PM +, Shevek wrote: On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Michael Stevens wrote: I'm sure there are reasonable number of online manuals we'd all like printed copies of. Maybe we should see about costs for getting some of them printed fairly nicely and bound. I

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Leon Brocard
Jo Walsh sent the following bits through the ether: lets kill off the old list before the two get too far out of sync Nah, mailman on penderel - you know you want to! ;-) Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Michael Stevens
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 12:32:46PM +, Leon Brocard wrote: Jo Walsh sent the following bits through the ether: lets kill off the old list before the two get too far out of sync Nah, mailman on penderel - you know you want to! ;-) Yeah, we want our own mailing list server. And a pony.

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Struan Donald
* at 11/01 12:51 + Michael Stevens said: On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 12:32:46PM +, Leon Brocard wrote: Jo Walsh sent the following bits through the ether: lets kill off the old list before the two get too far out of sync Nah, mailman on penderel - you know you want to! ;-) Yeah, we

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Peter Corlett
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Nah, mailman on penderel - you know you want to! ;-) Yeah, we want our own mailing list server. Mmph, it's not that hard to install Majordomo is it? If need be, just give me the root password and I'll go and set it up... And a pony. It's running

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Jo Walsh
And a pony. who needs a pony when we have a camel? when are we going to see the camel i would sooner install qmail/ezmlm than mailman would ppl object? -- a member of the state51 conspiracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Michael Stevens
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:16:19PM +, Jo Walsh wrote: i would sooner install qmail/ezmlm than mailman would ppl object? I'd rather see exim/mailman but qmail is cool too. The most important bit is to get *something* working :) Michael

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Greg Cope
Roger Burton West wrote: On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:11:45PM +, Peter Corlett wrote: Mmph, it's not that hard to install Majordomo is it? If need be, just give me the root password and I'll go and set it up... ...and once you've installed Majordomo, _everyone_ has the root

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Michael Stevens
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:20:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: (Supposedly Mjd 2 is going to be better, RSN.) IIRC the postgresql mailing list are actually using it, or were. Don't think that it is done yet, tho. Smartlist is good. Mailman is good. ezmlm and qmail actually seem pretty

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:11:45PM +, Peter Corlett wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Nah, mailman on penderel - you know you want to! ;-) Yeah, we want our own mailing list server. Mmph, it's not that hard to install Majordomo is it? If need be, just give me the root

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Michael Stevens
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:27:50PM +, David Cantrell wrote: /me has a bone to pick with majordomo. majordomo + virtual domains = a whole world of hurt It's doable, you'll just wish you hadn't. Michael

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:25:26PM +, Greg Cope wrote: Roger Burton West wrote: Smartlist is good. Mailman is good. ezmlm is better Other than its unfortunate reliance on qmail. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Any technology

RE: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Peter Corlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2001 13:12 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Nah, mailman on penderel - you know you want to! ;-) Yeah, we want our own mailing list server. Mmph, it's not that hard to install Majordomo is it? If need be, just give me the

From whence cometh www.fnord.demon.co.uk?

2001-01-11 Thread Andy Wardley
Is anyone here responsible for www.fnord.demon.co.uk, or know someone who is? It's really only a matter of curiosity[1]. I was drawn there after last night's Mark Thomas Product on Channel 4 and noticed a cryptic Perl 3 liner (which I couldn't get to work) prominently placed on a front page.

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:39:18PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:27:50PM +, David Cantrell wrote: /me has a bone to pick with majordomo. majordomo + virtual domains = a whole world of hurt It's doable, you'll just wish you hadn't. It's all working swimingly

Re: Pubs! (was: RE: Forthcoming Meetings - Summary)

2001-01-11 Thread Greg McCarroll
* dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Whilst exploring this area at lunchtime I found a pub called the Elusive Camel. I don't know what it's like outside, but further investigation has revealed that there are others in Victoria and Waterloo. Has anyone tried them? Should we

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Mark Rogaski
An entity claiming to be David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : : majordomo + virtual domains = a whole world of hurt : With a virtual user table under Sendmail, I would imagine it's not _that_ bad. Mark -- Mark Rogaski | "I've said this before but I'll say it again:

RE: From whence cometh www.fnord.demon.co.uk?

2001-01-11 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2001 13:57 Is anyone here responsible for www.fnord.demon.co.uk, or know someone who is? I used to hang around with the MTCP groupies, but haven't spoken to any of them for some time. You might get more information from the

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Michael Stevens
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:51:15PM +, David Cantrell wrote: Good thing: the error messages were short enough to fit into an SMS Bad thing: they contained no useful information whatsoever I Will Not Give In. I Will Not Install Python. I actually kinda like python, from the little I've

Re: From whence cometh www.fnord.demon.co.uk?

2001-01-11 Thread Andy Wardley
On Jan 11, 2:10pm, dcross - David Cross wrote: The Mark Thomas usage came first. A couple of years ago, he wore t-shirts with weird slogans on for each show. A couple of them were 'Meeja Hor' and 'Mor Hor'. The first was obviously ripe for appropriation and lengthening (a kind of "Embrace

Re: From whence cometh www.fnord.demon.co.uk?

2001-01-11 Thread Robin Houston
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:56:32PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: ... a cryptic Perl 3 liner (which I couldn't get to work) ... See http://www.cypherspace.org/~adam/rsa/ for an explanation of that particular cryptic 3-liner :-) .robin. -- Santa, oscillate my metallic soatnas!

Re: From whence cometh www.fnord.demon.co.uk?

2001-01-11 Thread Andy Wardley
On Jan 11, 3:54pm, Robin Houston wrote: See http://www.cypherspace.org/~adam/rsa/ for an explanation of that particular cryptic 3-liner :-) D'Oh! I really could have guessed that if I bothered to engage my brain! Curiosity satiated. Ta. A -- Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signature

Re: one liner

2001-01-11 Thread Tony Bowden
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 07:38:04PM +, Dave Cross wrote: Oh, and Amazon.com have the Learning Tk book at 90% off at the minute if anyone's interested .. That'll explain the increase in sales that Nat noted the other day then :) Well, I expected one of their "Oops, we made a pricing

For all you nu meeja types

2001-01-11 Thread Jonathan Peterson
Found on UKNM mu meeja marketing list - credit to Tim Hayward for original post, credit to me for reformatting to 72 cols. - No, hang about... I'm right up for it. Let's start a whip round now for all those poor bastards who are going to end up cannon fodder in the .Com Wars in the next

Re: For all you nu meeja types

2001-01-11 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Found on UKNM mu meeja marketing list - credit to Tim Hayward for original post, credit to me for reformatting to 72 cols. that was a truly beautiful image *sob*, however here's the good news ^ / \

Re: Technical Meeting Agenda

2001-01-11 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: XML::Schema - Andy can we finish this with some sort of SIG meeting on XML::Scheme seeing as its all just ideas in the fevoured mind of Mr Wardley so far, i'm sure there are the usual suspect who'd like to vent their own opinions Hopefully it'll

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread David H. Adler
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 02:07:20PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: In all fairness, I have to say that mailman is an *excellent* mailing list manager. So why haven't you reimplemented it in perl? :) dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Good marriages work this

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 02:07:20PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: In all fairness, I have to say that mailman is an *excellent* mailing list manager. So why haven't you reimplemented it in perl? :) previous_comment delivery="gentle" because

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread David Hodgkinson
"David H. Adler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 02:07:20PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: In all fairness, I have to say that mailman is an *excellent* mailing list manager. So why haven't you reimplemented it in perl? :) As an XML and perl based application server?

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Paul Makepeace
From: "Andy Wardley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] In all fairness, I have to say that mailman is an *excellent* mailing list manager. Yes it is. Majordomo is the wrong choice for the 21st century. Once again I'll offer to run the list on euro.pm.org but if y'all'd rather debate stuff go ahead :-) Paul

XML::Schema, YAPC::Europe, mod_perl, Camel Visit, !RANT!

2001-01-11 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David Hodgkinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: "David H. Adler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 02:07:20PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: In all fairness, I have to say that mailman is an *excellent* mailing list manager. So why haven't you reimplemented it in

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: "Andy Wardley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] In all fairness, I have to say that mailman is an *excellent* mailing list manager. Yes it is. Majordomo is the wrong choice for the 21st century. Once again I'll offer to run the list on euro.pm.org but

Re: the list is dead, long live the list

2001-01-11 Thread Paul Makepeace
From: "David Cantrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exactly. I just can't handle bernsteinisms when there are good alternatives available - exim (easy), postfix (secure), mailman. I can only put up with his oddities when the alternative is worse. djbdns vs bind. Totally agreed. FWIW, exim + mailman

Re: XML::Schema, YAPC::Europe, mod_perl, Camel Visit, !RANT!

2001-01-11 Thread Neil Ford
[snip] so as far as i see it - we have the following projects to be carried out by london.pm and others ... Caml (i'll leave that typo as it might get mjd excited) Visit - David Cross Completion of account creation for initial donators, establishment of a administration committee and setting