Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-18 Thread Mark Fowler
Take a look at http://www.bath.ac.uk/~bssnrw/getchart.html for a differing viewpoint. Nice BLINK tags. bss? Biological Sciences Staff? Hmmm. Mark. -- print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} ( Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer'

Network Programming with Perl

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Cross
I picked up a copy of Lincoln Stein's new book "Network Programming with Perl" last night. I've only had time to flick thru a few chapters but it looks very interesting. I'll bring it along tonight if anyone wants to hav a look. Dave...

apologies

2001-01-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
Apologies one and all, i am not going to be able to make it tonight, today is my first day back at work after some flu like illness. i had hoped to make it tonight but currently feel like matt wrights code, see you all at the next meeting, Greg -- Greg McCarroll

Re: apologies

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Cross
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:54:40 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apologies one and all, i am not going to be able to make it tonight, today is my first day back at work after some flu like illness. i had hoped to make it tonight but currently feel like matt wrights code, OK.

Re: Zebware

2001-01-18 Thread Robert Shiels
From: "Paul Makepeace" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone read/heard about http://www.zebware.com/ ? I just read an article on them in Open (Jan 2001) issue. I haven't tried this with Netscape but with IE every element on their pages is drag and drop-able in an impressive/disconcerting way. They

TPJ

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Cross
According to a mail I got on the SPUG mailimng list last night, TPJ #20 _has_ been printed and is in the post now. Which is good news. Dave...

Re: Online Time

2001-01-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:11:20AM +, Robin Szemeti wrote: from this quarters BT bill I managed to accumulate 786 hours of internet time .. anyone top that? I dunno how much it cost per minute, but I averaged five hundred quid per quarter on the ISDN bill - and I had some free time as

Re: Network Programming with Perl

2001-01-18 Thread Redvers Davies
I picked up a copy of Lincoln Stein's new book "Network Programming with Perl" last night. I've only had time to flick thru a few chapters but it looks very interesting. I'll bring it along tonight if anyone wants to hav a look. Yes please, I'm just starting a project whereby I have to

Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Steve Mynott
"Paul Makepeace" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: "Robin Houston" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aww c'mon! RedHat was obviously targeted because it's the most widely used! None of the vulnerable software was written by RH (and all of it was also included in other distros). That's true -- but how

Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:37:27AM +, Steve Mynott typed: RH/Slackware/Debian/Solaris/FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD are all fine systems but they need to be setup by someone who knows what they are doing in the same way that Perl has to be written by clueful programmers. And competent *ix

Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Michael Stevens
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 09:56:07AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: Robin Szemeti wrote: as a matter of interest what is your fave Linux or *nix install then?? From what I've been reading on this list, Debian seems to be argued for quite a lot, as is FreeBSD (? I think -- one of the BSDs,

Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-18 Thread Tony Bowden
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:40:56PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: If you present the chart in a different format to how they did then there's nothing they can do... Take a look at http://www.bath.ac.uk/~bssnrw/getchart.html for a differing viewpoint. OK ... when I said "there's nothing they

Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-18 Thread Philip Newton
Tony Bowden wrote: The classic case is someone who retypes a phone book. You can't reissue it in the same order (i.e. alphabetic by surname) as the original, but you could quite happily order it numberic by phone number and no-one could do anything... They could in Germany :-). There's been

[Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On or about Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:37:27AM +, Steve Mynott typed: RH/Slackware/Debian/Solaris/FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD are all fine systems but they need to be setup by someone who knows what they are doing in the same way that Perl has to be

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Cross
At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market right now, just bloody band together and start a consultancy. Sounds good to me. Anyone else up for it? Dave...

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 06:09:32AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market right now, just bloody band together and start a consultancy. Sounds good to me.

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, but [caveat] [caveat] [caveat] you're (we're ;-) (almost) all alcoholics with personality disorders? Why keep giving the money to the pimps^H^H^H^H^H agencies? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:31:02AM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, but [caveat] [caveat] [caveat] you're (we're ;-) (almost) all alcoholics with personality disorders? Actually I was thinking more along the lines of me being too damned lazy to

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Aaron Trevena
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market right now, just bloody band together and start a consultancy. Sounds good to me. Anyone else up for it?

Re: apologies

2001-01-18 Thread Neil Ford
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:54:40 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apologies one and all, i am not going to be able to make it tonight, today is my first day back at work after some flu like illness. i had hoped to make it tonight but currently feel like matt wrights code,

RE: (OT-ish) whois microsoft.com

2001-01-18 Thread Mike Chamberlain
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 11:22:45AM +, Robin Houston wrote: MICROSOFT.COM.IS.SECRETLY.RUN.BY.ILLUMINATI.TERRORISTS.NET but MICROSOFT.COM.INSPIRES.COPYCAT.WANNABE.SUBVERSIVES.NET is quite a good explanation of what's happened :-) Yeah, this was NTKed some time ago.

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Neil Ford
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On or about Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:37:27AM +, Steve Mynott typed: RH/Slackware/Debian/Solaris/FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD are all fine systems but they need to be setup by someone who knows what they are doing in the same way that Perl has to

RE: (OT-ish) whois microsoft.com

2001-01-18 Thread Bates, Duncan
APPLE.COM.IS.THE.CHOICE.OF.ALL.SELF.RESPECTING.TERRORISTS.NET Server Name: WHITEHOUSE.GOV.HAS.THE.BEST.TERRORISTS.NET -- Duncan Bates Developer Proxicom UK Tel: 020 7321 3812 Mobile: 07884 336 532 http://www.proxicom.com/

whiteboard pens

2001-01-18 Thread alex
for people who are coming to the tech meeting tonight -- do you have any whiteboard pens you could bring along? to avoid unnecessary confusion, list traffic and whiteboard pens, if whiteboard pen owners could mail me directly offering to bring some, I'll reply to the first person saying "yes

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread John
David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 06:09:32AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market right now, just bloody band together and

Re: apologies

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well I have both The Matrix and MIB with me on DVD and a DVD capable powerbook.. Movie intermission anyone? I have Deep Purple at the Montreux jazz festival 2000... ;-) -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org

RE: (OT-ish) whois microsoft.com

2001-01-18 Thread Mike Chamberlain
APPLE.COM.IS.THE.CHOICE.OF.ALL.SELF.RESPECTING.TERRORISTS.NET Server Name: WHITEHOUSE.GOV.HAS.THE.BEST.TERRORISTS.NET TERRORISTS.NET.IS.SO.FUCKING.31338.NET

RE: (OT-ish) whois microsoft.com

2001-01-18 Thread Bates, Duncan
APPLE.COM.IS.THE.CHOICE.OF.ALL.SELF.RESPECTING.TERRORISTS.NET WHITEHOUSE.GOV.HAS.THE.BEST.TERRORISTS.NET AMAZON.COM.SHOULD.SELL.SEXTOYSONLINE.COM SLASHDOT.ORG.SUCKS.COMPARED.TO.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG -- Duncan Bates Developer Proxicom UK Tel: 020 7321 3812 Mobile: 07884 336 532

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
* John ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hmmm, does sound good though. it all depends what you mean, do you mean a proper consultancy or a bunch of people getting together to share accounting/marketting? if its a proper consultancy, you'd have to wear suits, be polite and be in work for 9 in the

Re: apologies

2001-01-18 Thread Richard Clamp
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 11:41:29AM +, Neil Ford wrote: Well I have both The Matrix and MIB with me on DVD and a DVD capable powerbook.. Movie intermission anyone? Cool, 20 minutes is plenty enough to watch all the good bits in The Matrix. God bless chapter-seek. -- Richard Clamp

Re: (OT-ish) whois microsoft.com

2001-01-18 Thread Robert Shiels
SLASHDOT.ORG.SUCKS.COMPARED.TO.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG jimphillips has one on Microsoft too. MICROSOFT.COM.IS.NO.MATCH.FOR.THE.UEBER-GEEKS.AT.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG Hmmm /Robert

Re: apologies

2001-01-18 Thread jo walsh
i am not going to be able to make it tonight, today is my first day back at work after some flu like illness. i had hoped to make it tonight but currently feel like matt wrights code, ditto, except today is the first day of similar flu-like illness :( sorry i wont be there to do the

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
"Robert Shiels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: "David Cantrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2001 11:25 Subject: Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:31:02AM +, Dave Hodgkinson

?party animals

2001-01-18 Thread Jon Galliers
As I've never met you all in person (hopefully to be rectified on February 1st, can't come tonight as we're boarding the loft..don't ask) I don't know how big a party animal you all are, however some of you may be interested that Linkdup/Uploaded are having a party on February 1st at the

RE: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-18 Thread Mike Jarvis
Tony Bowden wrote: The fact you are recording is "What Billboard said was number one". *That* is a fact. Why they decided it was number one isn't the issue. How about if I put up a website wherein I disclose the fact: "This is what the object code to commercial app looks like?" Under (U.S.)

Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-18 Thread Tony Bowden
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 08:03:52AM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote: The fact you are recording is "What Billboard said was number one". *That* is a fact. Why they decided it was number one isn't the issue. How about if I put up a website wherein I disclose the fact: "This is what the object code

Re: apologies

2001-01-18 Thread Simon Wistow
Dave Cross wrote: OK. So we're now a speaker down. Anyone want to save the day by stepping in to give a 20 min talk - or do I have to talk about Symbol::Approx::Sub _again_? I could give a talk on either Flash stuff (again, although there's not much else to say ATM that people don't already

RE: apologies

2001-01-18 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2001 11:05 I have Deep Purple at the Montreux jazz festival 2000... ;-) That all sounds a bit Spinal Tap. "We hope you like our new direction" :) Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is

RE: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-18 Thread Matthew Jones
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 08:03:52AM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote: The fact you are recording is "What Billboard said was number one". *That* is a fact. Why they decided it was number one isn't the issue. How about if I put up a website wherein I disclose the fact: "This is what the object code

Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-18 Thread Tony Bowden
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:53:12PM -, Matthew Jones wrote: Is this relevant at all? http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16147.html "The injunction was granted thanks to new European database laws that essentially assume data to be copyrightable" Almost certainly. As I say, my legal

Re: apologies

2001-01-18 Thread Steve Mynott
dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2001 11:05 I have Deep Purple at the Montreux jazz festival 2000... ;-) That all sounds a bit Spinal Tap. "We hope you like our new direction" :) Didn't they appear at the Albert

Re: (OT-ish) whois microsoft.com

2001-01-18 Thread mallum
Netscape has; NETSCAPE.COM.SHOULD-DUMP.AOL-AND-REHIRE.JWZ.BUT.CHECK-OUT.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG mallum On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 12:12:19PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: SLASHDOT.ORG.SUCKS.COMPARED.TO.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG jimphillips has one on Microsoft too.

RE: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2001 11:42 What sort of hourly/daily rate does an average PM perl programmer get anyway? Anything from 30 upwards to the sky depending on the client. And the programmer. And the task. Sounds a tad low to me. I've never contracted

RE: apologies

2001-01-18 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2001 13:46 Dave Cross wrote: OK. So we're now a speaker down. Anyone want to save the day by stepping in to give a 20 min talk - or do I have to talk about Symbol::Approx::Sub _again_? I could give a talk on either Flash stuff

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Michael Stevens
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:55:08PM -, dcross - David Cross wrote: Sounds a tad low to me. I've never contracted as a Perl programmer for less than 50/hr. Normally I'd estimate at about 500/day. I'd have thought that if we were selling ourselves as top-notch Perl consultants (Dave H's

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
* dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2001 11:42 What sort of hourly/daily rate does an average PM perl programmer get anyway? Anything from 30 upwards to the sky depending on the client. And the programmer.

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:29:20PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:55:08PM -, dcross - David Cross wrote: Sounds a tad low to me. I've never contracted as a Perl programmer for less than 50/hr. Normally I'd estimate at about 500/day. I'd have thought that if we

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: there is a big question here, do people want to create a small business with a few perl programmers all on largish salaries or do people want to create a proper consulting business aiming to see it grow Both, of course :-) --

Re: apologies

2001-01-18 Thread Natalie Ford
At 11:41 18/01/01, binkyuk wrote: At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:54:40 +, Dave told us to: OK. So we're now a speaker down. Anyone want to save the day by stepping in to give a 20 min talk - or do I have to talk about Symbol::Approx::Sub _again_? Well I have both The Matrix and MIB with me on

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: there is a big question here, do people want to create a small business with a few perl programmers all on largish salaries or do people want to create a proper consulting business

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Cross
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:16:59 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: there is a big question here, do people want to create a small business with a few perl programmers

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:16:59 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: there is a big question here, do people want to create a

Re: PIMB THC-shirts

2001-01-18 Thread Andy Wardley
On Jan 17, 4:05pm, Redvers Davies wrote: Myself and a couple of friends of mine were talking about this before and someone suggested that ingestion in cakes was healthier still and more "effective". Healthier, certainly. Smoking anything is bad for your respiratory tract and lungs.

Re: apologies

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Didn't they appear at the Albert Hall with a orchestra in 1970? Their early exposure to classical music didn't impro^H^H^H^H^H change their direction much. They did it again last year and hauled the orchestra round Europe this time. BTW if anyone

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2001 11:42 What sort of hourly/daily rate does an average PM perl programmer get anyway? Anything from 30 upwards to the sky depending on the client. And the programmer. And

Re: apologies

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Cross
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:03:39 +, "Andy Wardley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 18, 4:57am, Dave Cross wrote: OK. So we're now a speaker down. Anyone want to save the day by stepping in to give a 20 min talk - or do I have to talk about Symbol::Approx::Sub _again_? I can talk all

RE:Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Leo Lapworth
People (no particular order): == = Pimp = = Accountant = == == = = BOFH = = Security Guru = ==

RE:Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hatworm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Neil Ford
[snip the first bit... all great] Location A big pub in central London. Top floors: development Ground floor Pub: with comedy stand and terminal points for laptops Purleese wireless is the only way to go. :-) Basement: disco / conference room, big flat screens

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread James Powell
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:21:45AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:16:59 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: there is a big question here, do

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: People (no particular order): == = Pimp = = Accountant = == == = = BOFH =

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Tony Bowden
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:42:55PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: have to pay them back with interest and stuff. equity surely? ;-) Yes. But if you're successful the "interest" rate is huge ;) But if you're not, well, they lose the money and not you. FWIW It's much easier to negotiate with

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Greg Cope
Leo Lapworth wrote: Location A big pub in central London. Top floors: development Ground floor Pub: with comedy stand and terminal points for laptops Basement: disco / conference room, big flat screens etc.. What about a bed / kip room and of course a

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Tony Bowden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:42:55PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: have to pay them back with interest and stuff. equity surely? ;-) Yes. But if you're successful the "interest" rate is huge ;) But if you're not, well, they lose the money and not

RE: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread James Royan
Neil So who's any good at business plans... (I have a book but) I know a few things about setting up and running SMEs. Happy to sit down for an hour or so one evening with someone if it would be of assistance. Unfortunately, I'm far too tied up with current venture to get much more

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Greg Cope
Greg McCarroll wrote: * Greg Cope ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Leo Lapworth wrote: Location A big pub in central London. Top floors: development Ground floor Pub: with comedy stand and terminal points for laptops Basement: disco / conference

[Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
In a bad mailbox incident I lost a couple of mails from BOFH inclined people. Would y'all mail me again please? Ta, Dave -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl,

Re: PIMB THC-shirts

2001-01-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
From: "Andy Wardley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] More effective, yes, because none of the THC is lost to the atmosphere. However, it takes an hour or so to notice the effects coming on and when they do, there's no way to stop them. So you might end up ingesting twice as much as

Re: RE:Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
From: "Leo Lapworth" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've got a contact who says he can get hold of a million or so VC if this was an actually business plan, but then you have to pay them back with interest and stuff. That's not VC then, that's a "loan". VC is where you heave up a huge chunk of cash in

Compiling mod_perl on Debian

2001-01-18 Thread Niklas Nordebo
Hello everybody, I just moved to London from Stockholm, Sweden, so I joined the list. Anyway, I have a problem I hoped someone might be able to help me with, when trying to compile mod_perl statically into Apache on my Debian box I get /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldb from the sanity check when

Re: Compiling mod_perl on Debian

2001-01-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
Welcome to London.pm ;-) From: "Niklas Nordebo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, I have a problem I hoped someone might be able to help me with, when trying to compile mod_perl statically into Apache on my Debian box I get apt-get install libapache-mod-perl gets you the dynamic version -- is there a

Re: Compiling mod_perl on Debian

2001-01-18 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:28:13AM -0800, Paul Makepeace typed: apt-get install libapache-mod-perl gets you the dynamic version -- is there a particular advantage to having it statically built? Want mod_perl and mod_ssl? Debian stable doesn't do this easily without recompilation. R

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote: There's a difference between what the conslutant gets and what the client pays! not here at 'Redpoint Consulting' there isn't :) -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!

RE:Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote: People (no particular order): == = Pimp = = Accountant = == == = = BOFH = =

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:51:18PM +, Greg Cope wrote: What about a bed / kip room and of course a play room - and I do not mean some 70's swingers thing - a P2, etc ... Having something to crash on when pulling an all-nighter is, IMO, a bad idea as it encourages pulling all-nighters.

Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Steve Mynott
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Also many hackers have more business sense than their MDs - look at success of projects started by hackers or engineers versus that of those started by MBAs or middle managers.. business sense !=

thoth

2001-01-18 Thread Roger Burton West
For the benefit of those who want to know more about thoth, the network monitoring system I mentioned just now: ftp://firedrake.org/thoth/ http://firedrake.org/thoth/ (there's even some documentation!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subject subscribe to join the development mailing list, current

Re: RE:Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Paul Makepeace
From: "David Cantrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is a million considered a lot in the UK still? Not by people who can add up. OK, same here then. Having said that, it's amazing how much people can stretch a few $currency_unit if they *don't* have investment :-) But then so's a 24hr stretch of

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
"Paul Makepeace" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The US has much more to worry about than the UK, like high water tables, vicious weather and earthquakes. The smart money goes on hosting in Texas (San Antonio) not California though -- relatively earthquake/tornado/storm/etc-free! You're talking

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Greg Cope
David Cantrell wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:51:18PM +, Greg Cope wrote: What about a bed / kip room and of course a play room - and I do not mean some 70's swingers thing - a P2, etc ... Having something to crash on when pulling an all-nighter is, IMO, a bad idea as it

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Greg Cope
Dave Hodgkinson wrote: "Paul Makepeace" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The US has much more to worry about than the UK, like high water tables, vicious weather and earthquakes. The smart money goes on hosting in Texas (San Antonio) not California though -- relatively

Re: RE:Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 12:11:23PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: From: "David Cantrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, it's always amazed me just how crap the north American power system seems to be. Even in cities. This is a different issue, http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/power.crisis/ I

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-18 Thread Greg Cope
Robin Szemeti wrote: On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote: Having something to crash on when pulling an all-nighter is, IMO, a bad idea as it encourages pulling all-nighters. You just don't write good code at 2 in the morning, and end up spending just as much time untangling it as you did

techmeet aftermath

2001-01-18 Thread alex
Thanks to all for visiting our humble factory. I hope you all enjoyed it as much as I. We have gained a set of whiteboard pens, and a pile of andy wardley's notes. Any takers? The slight downside was a brief invasion by a unshaven fellow clutching a can of tennants extra. He asked if he

Re: thoth

2001-01-18 Thread Mark Rogaski
An entity claiming to be Roger Burton West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : : Mail me privately for a URL of a working thoth installation. : That would be c.l.p.m ... unless of course you aren't referring to Tom. Mark -- Mark Rogaski | "What in the ding-dong-heckama-doodle

Re: thoth

2001-01-18 Thread Philip Newton
Mark Rogaski wrote: An entity claiming to be Roger Burton West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : : Mail me privately for a URL of a working thoth installation. That would be c.l.p.m ... unless of course you aren't referring to Tom. I think he doesn't use that appellation any more. BICBW.

Re: PIMB THC-shirts

2001-01-18 Thread Redvers Davies
Water pipes/bongs are actually worse than joints for avoiding nasty stuff in the smoke: THC is more soluble in the water than tar so you end up reducing So do people smoke the stuff (as opposed to consumption) for convenience or maybe the familiarity of the ritual of smoking?