Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Steve Mynott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Also many hackers have more business sense than their MDs - look at success of projects started by hackers or engineers versus that of those started by

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Greg Cope ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thats were a few people have gone wrong lately then ;-) yup -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Re: thoth

2001-01-19 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 01:35:32AM -0500, Mark Rogaski typed: That would be c.l.p.m ... unless of course you aren't referring to Tom. You weren't at the technical meeting last night, were you? This thoth is a network monitoring system. R

Re: OT : DVD

2001-01-19 Thread Paul Mison
On 15/01/2001 at 21:12 +, mallum wrote: ^ Your clock's wrong... -- :: paul :: and if you refuse to believe :: you will be cast into the void

Re: Compiling mod_perl on Debian

2001-01-19 Thread Niklas Nordebo
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 07:51:30PM +, Marcel Grunauer wrote: apt-get install apache-perl will get you an apache with mod_perl linked into Apache. The trouble I find with precompiled mod_perl's is that they usually haven't beencompiled with EVERYTHING = 1, so they have to be compiled

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Greg Cope [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hodgkinson wrote: "Paul Makepeace" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The US has much more to worry about than the UK, like high water tables, vicious weather and earthquakes. The smart money goes on hosting in Texas (San Antonio) not California

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And the UK doesn't have high water tables (in some places and not in others, just like anywhere else) or vicious weather (again, in some places not in others, just like anywhere else). But it strikes me as being absurd that I hear EVERY YEAR of the

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Greg Cope
Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Greg Cope [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hodgkinson wrote: "Paul Makepeace" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The US has much more to worry about than the UK, like high water tables, vicious weather and earthquakes. The smart money goes on hosting in Texas

What's a perl person then?

2001-01-19 Thread Jonathan Peterson
Got this through the email. Where do Perl people fit in? Unix person: So then he tried to su to chroot, but of course the crontab wasn't even mounted because there were four spaces instead of a tab in the getty sed awk ^] sh ksh zsh | and that's why we're getting another three E45000s to run

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Stevens
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:42:11AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: yes and no. If you need to do an allnighter and its unavoidable (due to a client suddenly changing ther mind) then theres no problem doing it .. just charge em bigtime! nope this is where your pimp/MD should of tied up the

Re: What's a perl person then?

2001-01-19 Thread Greg Cope
Jonathan Peterson wrote: Got this through the email. Where do Perl people fit in? Unix person: So then he tried to su to chroot, but of course the crontab wasn't even mounted because there were four spaces instead of a tab in the getty sed awk ^] sh ksh zsh | and that's why we're

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Piers Cawley
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:42:55PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: People (no particular order): = Pimp = = Accountant = = BOFH = = Security Guru =

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Piers Cawley
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:51:18PM +, Greg Cope wrote: What about a bed / kip room and of course a play room - and I do not mean some 70's swingers thing - a P2, etc ... Having something to crash on when pulling an all-nighter is, IMO, a

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greg Cope [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IMHO developers should be given the environment that is what makes them confotable, an IBM research center was on the telly the other day that had a big open plan style area, as well as individaul offices, as

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Stevens
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:32:16AM +, Michael Stevens wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:42:11AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: yes and no. If you need to do an allnighter and its unavoidable (due to a client suddenly changing ther mind) then theres no problem doing it .. just charge

Re: What's a perl person then?

2001-01-19 Thread Simon Wistow
Greg Cope wrote: perl person: Hacked a drawing program in 2 hours. other person: That long, oh dear .. perl person: yeah but I was drunk at the time. Oh and it sends mail. And it's written in Latin. And none of the sub routines are actually called. It just sort of guesses which one you

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat wormdiscovered

2001-01-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On 19 Jan 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And the UK doesn't have high water tables (in some places and not in others, just like anywhere else) or vicious weather (again, in some places not in others, just like anywhere else). But it strikes me as

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:32:16AM +, Michael Stevens wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:42:11AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: yes and no. If you need to do an allnighter and its unavoidable (due to a client suddenly changing ther mind)

RE: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Andrew Bowman
From: Greg McCarroll [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] write a suggestions document of where the project management and management functions are going wrong if they ignore it leave Do you know anywhere this has happened Greg? ;-)

Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Dave Cross
A quick reminder of something I mentioned last night. The hardware spec for penderel (our server) is starting to show its age (I don't know exactly what the specs are, but the box is at least 18 months old). There are also a number of people who have expressed an interest in joining the

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread alex
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: Anyone fancy it? I forgot to mention, I offered to do this before, and that offer still stands. alex -- Snack pastries are dramatic when shapes are combined

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Simon Wistow
Dave Cross wrote: I'm therefore looking for a volunteer to organise this. The organiser would, of course, be given a free login on the server. Anyone fancy it? I'll give it a go.

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Dave Cross
At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:10:26 + (GMT), alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: Anyone fancy it? I forgot to mention, I offered to do this before, and that offer still stands. Alex, Thanks for the offer. I'm more that happy to take you up on it. How soon

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Dave Cross
At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:12:58 +, Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Cross wrote: I'm therefore looking for a volunteer to organise this. The organiser would, of course, be given a free login on the server. Anyone fancy it? I'll give it a go. Simon, The advantage of

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:10:26 + (GMT), alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: Anyone fancy it? I forgot to mention, I offered to do this before, and that offer still stands. Alex, Thanks for the offer. I'm

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread John
Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:12:58 +, Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Cross wrote: I'm therefore looking for a volunteer to organise this. The organiser would, of course, be given a free login on the server. What's the current specs of

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Neil Ford
A quick reminder of something I mentioned last night. The hardware spec for penderel (our server) is starting to show its age (I don't know exactly what the specs are, but the box is at least 18 months old). There are also a number of people who have expressed an interest in joining the

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread alex
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: Thanks for the offer. I'm more that happy to take you up on it. no problems. How soon do you think you can have a list of the kinds of hardware that you want to buy? That would give us an estimate of how many new donors we're looking for. I'd prefer

Re: Advice

2001-01-19 Thread Simon Wistow
Dean S Wilson wrote: What kind of low level stuff are you interested in? kernel/device drivers kind of thing or something else entirely? I've been working on compilers, WAP browsers and crypto since I got here. I'd love to have a go working on kernel stuff or device drivers. What I'd really

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Dave Cross
At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:41:38 + (GMT), alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: How soon do you think you can have a list of the kinds of hardware that you want to buy? That would give us an estimate of how many new donors we're looking for. I'd prefer to

Re: Advice

2001-01-19 Thread Simon Wistow
Redvers Davies wrote: Is that a change in conditions such that you have to give 3 months notice or that you don't have a termination clause such that you sign up on a rolling 3 month contract. I'm coming to the end of my 3 month probabtion period. AFter that, becuase I work for the RnD part

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread alex
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: I'm not sure. I don't think I've ever known this. I'm hoping that someone woh a) bought it or b) is sitting next to it will be able to leap in with this information. [alex@penderel alex]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id :

OuPerlPo

2001-01-19 Thread Robin Houston
The talk I gave last night (or an outline thereof) is at http://www.kitsite.com/~robin/ou-x-po/talk/0.title.html The code for my "prisoner's JAPH": http://www.kitsite.com/~robin/ou-x-po/japh-prisoner.pl In case anyone gets really obsessed, the code I used to analyze font metrics is

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread alex
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: ok i was a bit late ;) -- Snack pastries are dramatic when shapes are combined

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, you wrote: [gem@penderel gem]$ cat /proc/meminfo total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 130895872 125063168 5832704 46772224 63795200 15314944 Swap: 271392768 6909952 264482816 MemTotal:127828 kB if its of any intereset I was offered

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:34:11 +, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [upgrading penderel] What's the current specs of the machine? (Just out of interest) I'm not sure. I don't think I've ever known

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Stevens
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 02:41:57PM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: [gem@penderel gem]$ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda6 3.9G 879M 2.8G 24% / /dev/sda1 7.6M 2.9M 4.2M 41% /boot OK that'll be another disk or two then - if

RE: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Jonathan Peterson
Personally I'd be happier if we had mirrored disks in there. I'd go for a backup system before a mirror, myself.

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Stevens
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 02:37:24PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Personally I'd be happier if we had mirrored disks in there. I'd go for a backup system before a mirror, myself. That could be good, too... We definately need one of the two. (IMHO) Michael

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Neil Ford
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 02:37:24PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Personally I'd be happier if we had mirrored disks in there. I'd go for a backup system before a mirror, myself. That could be good, too... We definately need one of the two. (IMHO) Michael Well a tape drive would be

Oh! Idea for penderel!

2001-01-19 Thread Jonathan Peterson
I realise all the l33t people with their own boxen don't have this problem, but I'm constantly annoyed by not having instant flexible control of my own DNS. Could we create domains for every user and then put the zone files in each person's home dir, with a SUID script to kick named? Then I

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Robert Shiels
- Original Message - From: "Michael Stevens" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2001 14:41 Subject: Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 02:37:24PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Personally I'd be happier if we had mirrored disks in there. I'd

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hatworm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Neil Ford
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Big monitors on workstations are *not* rewards. They are essential tools for the job. Anything smaller than 19" is rapidly approaching too cramped for serious work. TFT monitors on workstations are

RE: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Jonathan Peterson
Who is planning to store data on penderel that they won't have somewhere else anyway. I don't think we should ever rely on our data being there. I have a local copy of everything that I have on other servers. What about applications running on penderel that generate data? Even if what they

Re: Oh! Idea for penderel!

2001-01-19 Thread Dave Cross
At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:52:54 -, "Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could we create domains for every user and then put the zone files in each person's home dir, with a SUID script to kick named? Then I could have *.jon.penderel.state51.co.uk and be able to quickly create

Penderel query

2001-01-19 Thread Simon_Wilcox
Hi all, I've been lurking on the list for a while and am hoping to make the meeting on the 1st. Please excuse my ignorance with this question, but could someone outline what services penderel provides to account holders ? I've got 50 I'd be happy to contribute

Re: Penderel query

2001-01-19 Thread Leon Brocard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent the following bits through the ether: I've got 50 I'd be happy to contribute but I'd like to know what it gets me (other than a sense of satisfaction from furthering the perl cause :-) Well, I'd suggest a donation to YAS (yetanother.org) would be better if

Re: Penderel query

2001-01-19 Thread Dave Cross
At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:15:29 -0500 (EST), I wrote: Basically, you get an account on a server which is permanently connected to the web. Net! I meant net, goddamit. I'm very tired and have been absorbing too much media that doesn't know the difference. I'm sorry. I'll go and have a lie

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Robert Shiels
Who is planning to store data on penderel that they won't have somewhere else anyway. I don't think we should ever rely on our data being there. I have a local copy of everything that I have on other servers. So, we need only buy two more of whatever size disk we want in there, and

Re: Oh! Idea for penderel!

2001-01-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:52:54 -, "Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could we create domains for every user and then put the zone files in each person's home dir, with a SUID script to kick named? Then I could have

Re: Compiling mod_perl on Debian

2001-01-19 Thread Niklas Nordebo
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 01:28:21PM +, Robin Houston wrote: Hope you enjoyed it... Yes, I did. Heres the URL to the IP location project I mentioned yesterday, by the way: http://www.networldmap.com/ -- Niklas Nordebo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Per Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 618,

Re: Oh! Idea for penderel!

2001-01-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote: At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:52:54 -, "Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could we create domains for every user and then put the zone files in each person's home dir, with a SUID script to kick named? Then I could have

RE: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread Gareth Harper
Title: RE: Hardware Upgrade Fund I don't know about anyone else, but I'm quite happy to provide some money, but I'd much prefer to do a direct bank cash transfer (through online banking) I don't know if you'd want to publicise your bank acvcount details on the list, but if this is all going

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Leon Brocard
Dave Hodgkinson sent the following bits through the ether: Sounds like a table at the New World one lunchtime... OK. We might as well do this quickly, how about Monday 12.30 at the New World restaurant in Chinatown. Everyone who is vaguely interested in a Perl Consultancy of some sort is

Re: Hardware Upgrade Fund

2001-01-19 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 02:42:19PM +, Neil Ford wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 02:37:24PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Personally I'd be happier if we had mirrored disks in there. I'd go for a backup system before a mirror, myself. That could be good, too... We definately

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Neil Ford
When I got home last night there were two big boxes from Dell waiting in the middle of the lounge. This is my new 1400 Mhz Pentium IV, 256 Mb Turbo Bastard Nutter machine. One of the (many) advantages of having a new box is that I'll be able to do a completely fresh Linux install for the first

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Dave Cross
At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:33:57 +, Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On or about Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:29:18AM -0500, Dave Cross typed: So I'm looking for advice on the best distro to use. What are you planning to do on the box? It'll be purely for home use, so: * Hacking

Re: Oh! Idea for penderel!

2001-01-19 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 02:52:54PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: I'm happy to set this up if anyone is interested (although, frankly, you'd be mad to let me anywhere near a root password and a copy of bind) Heh. djbdns is, despite being a bernsteinism, very good. For values of 'very good'

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Go for it. Give it your best shot. Mandrake 7.2. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well,

Re: Oh! Idea for penderel!

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Stevens
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 03:31:00PM +, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 02:52:54PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: I'm happy to set this up if anyone is interested (although, frankly, you'd be mad to let me anywhere near a root password and a copy of bind) Heh. djbdns is,

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:39:47AM -0500, Dave Cross typed: It'll be purely for home use, so: I'd use Debian 'cos I like it. Downside: latest versions of stuff aren't usually available as packages. Upside: doesn't mess you about the way the Windowsy distributions (RH, SuSE) do. R

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Stevens
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:29:18AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: So I'm looking for advice on the best distro to use. Bear in mind that the existing box will currently become a firewall/proxy box so I'll do all the paranoid security stuff on there. Go for it. Give it your best shot. Let battle

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Richard Clamp
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 03:44:42PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: I'd use Debian 'cos I like it. Downside: latest versions of stuff aren't usually available as packages. Untrue, if you're following the testing/unstable branch and have sufficient bandwidth that is. -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL

Re: thoth

2001-01-19 Thread Mark Rogaski
An entity claiming to be Roger Burton West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : On or about Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 01:35:32AM -0500, Mark Rogaski typed: : : That would be c.l.p.m ... unless of course you aren't referring to Tom. : : You weren't at the technical meeting last night, were you? This thoth :

Re: Oh! Idea for penderel!

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Stevens
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 03:48:03PM +, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 03:43:28PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 03:31:00PM +, David Cantrell wrote: Heh. djbdns is, despite being a bernsteinism, very good. For values of 'very good' which are

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Stevens
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 04:02:01PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 03:58:41PM +, Richard Clamp typed: On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 03:44:42PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: I'd use Debian 'cos I like it. Downside: latest versions of stuff aren't usually

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Leon Brocard
Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether: I'd love to come along, but probably wouldn't have time to get there and back during lunch. Can we do it one evening? OK, Penderel's Oak 6.30pm for those who can't make it to lunch. I'll go to both and take notes. Leon -- Leon

Re: Oh! Idea for penderel!

2001-01-19 Thread Simon Wistow
David Cantrell wrote: However, I don't believe it supports some of the more weird DNS entries you can have like HINFO and LOC records. You learn fast young Grasshopper. Oh, wait. You weren't there last night. http://www.2shortplanks.com/simon/ip2ll/2.html

Re: AUTOLOAD speed

2001-01-19 Thread Leon Brocard
Simon Wistow sent the following bits through the ether: And thought ... would it be big performance hit if I did this through AUTOLOAD. Right, that does it. The next two talks I'm gonna do will be "Introduction to Benchmarking with Perl and the Bechmark module" and "Introduction to Testing

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Redvers Davies
What I do: For a workstation, Mandrake. For a server, Slackware. Once you've done the install forget that rpm existed and do everything from source. Red

RE:Consultancy company

2001-01-19 Thread Andy Wardley
On Jan 18, 4:28pm, Leo Lapworth wrote: Ok, it's all a pipedream.. but what a nice one. It sounds like an excellent idea. In fact, I've even got as far as writing a (fledgling) business plan for such a venture based around Template Toolkit-ish web development, support and consultancy. It's

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Redvers Davies
All I'll say about mandrake is that we have a mandrake box at work and when you run printtool the cdrom ejects. You couldn't do an strace on that so we see what causes that could you? I would have thought a hardware conflict would be the most likely cause there... Red

Re: AUTOLOAD speed

2001-01-19 Thread Dave Cross
At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:02:23 +, Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just typing this ... # Unsigned int 8bit sub ui8() { my $self; = shift; $self-UI8()} # Unsigned int 16bit sub ui16() { my $self; = shift; $self-UI16() } sub Word() { my $self; = shift;

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Struan Donald
* at 19/01 16:12 + Redvers Davies said: All I'll say about mandrake is that we have a mandrake box at work and when you run printtool the cdrom ejects. You couldn't do an strace on that so we see what causes that could you? I would have thought a hardware conflict would be the most

Re: AUTOLOAD speed

2001-01-19 Thread Simon Wistow
Dave Cross wrote: *ui8 = \U18; *ui16 = \UI16; *Word = \UI16; *word = \UI16; That's the ticket. Brain still fried today.

Re: Oh! Idea for penderel!

2001-01-19 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Jonathan Stowe [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: * * Speaking of DNS, did we ever hear anything from the pm.org DNS people? * * *Not from my initial e-mail - I have fired off another today and hope that *we might get some action. As far as I know, Ben Hockenhull is still doing DNS for the PM box

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * at 19/01 14:44 + Dave Hodgkinson said: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Go for it. Give it your best shot. Mandrake 7.2. All I'll say about mandrake is that we have a mandrake box at work and when you run printtool the cdrom

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Dave Cross [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: * *So I'm looking for advice on the best distro to use. Bear in mind that *the existing box will currently become a firewall/proxy box so I'll *do all the paranoid security stuff on there. * *Go for it. Give it your best shot. * *Let battle commence.

Re: PIMB THC-shirts

2001-01-19 Thread Andy Wardley
On Jan 19, 9:39am, Steve Mynott wrote: THC isn't water soluble at all which is why you have to dissolve the stuff in hot fat before cooking it. I belive that's true, but according to the paper I just found, presumably the one Paul was referring to, the paper suggests that some THC *is* lost

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: Apart from the games perhaps, I'm just wondering what a PIV1400Mhz will do that a PII350 wouldn't :-) What was your inner justification for getting such a monster machine Dave? Some people buy Ferraris. /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe |

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Dave Cross
At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:33:40 -, "Robert Shiels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are you planning to do on the box? It'll be purely for home use, so: * Hacking perl * Prototyping web sites * Playing with new toys like AxKit and Camelot * Write * Surf the web * Read mail

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-19 Thread Greg Cope
Andy Wardley wrote: On Jan 18, 4:28pm, Leo Lapworth wrote: Ok, it's all a pipedream.. but what a nice one. It sounds like an excellent idea. In fact, I've even got as far as writing a (fledgling) business plan for such a venture based around Template Toolkit-ish web development,

Re: AUTOLOAD speed

2001-01-19 Thread Simon Wistow
Robin Houston wrote: Although the best solution would (obviously) be to use Symbol::Approx::Sub with an appropriate matcher :-) [simon@ns0 simon]$ cat globtest #!/usr/bin/perl *foo = \UI; UI16(); UI32(); SI402(); foo12(); sub UI () { print $_[0],"\n"; } sub SI() { print

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Struan Donald
* at 19/01 16:33 - Robert Shiels said: What are you planning to do on the box? It'll be purely for home use, so: * Hacking perl * Prototyping web sites * Playing with new toys like AxKit and Camelot * Write * Surf the web * Read mail * Play the occasional game *

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Robert Shiels
At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:33:40 -, "Robert Shiels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are you planning to do on the box? It'll be purely for home use, so: * Hacking perl * Prototyping web sites * Playing with new toys like AxKit and Camelot * Write * Surf the web *

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Natalie Ford
At 14:55 19/01/01, Neil Ford wrote: Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mmmm... so, when are we going to have a meeting about all this? Well seeing as I will be amongst the great unwashed from next week, anytime soon would be good. AOLMe too!/AOL

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Natalie Ford
At 15:49 19/01/01, Dave Cross wrote: I'd love to come along, but probably wouldn't have time to get there and back during lunch. Can we do it one evening? An evening would be better for me, too... Natalie

Re: Holy War

2001-01-19 Thread Redvers Davies
Seriously, my current machine is a PentiumPro 200 Mhz and that's getting so frustrating that I knew I needed a new machine and I always buy the fastest I can so it will last as long as possible. Was it a self-congratulations pressie for the publication of your book.

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Piers Cawley
Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hodgkinson sent the following bits through the ether: Sounds like a table at the New World one lunchtime... OK. We might as well do this quickly, how about Monday 12.30 at the New World restaurant in Chinatown. Everyone who is vaguely

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat wormdiscovered

2001-01-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On 19 Jan 2001, Piers Cawley wrote: Put me down for that. Might bring Gill as well. It seems like every tom dick and harry's other half is called Gill around here :) /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-19 Thread Greg Cope
Piers Cawley wrote: Greg Cope [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andy Wardley wrote: On Jan 18, 4:28pm, Leo Lapworth wrote: Ok, it's all a pipedream.. but what a nice one. It sounds like an excellent idea. In fact, I've even got as far as writing a (fledgling) business plan for

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Alex Page
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:27:18AM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: It should be mandatory for all public servants to be adept at Sim City. IIRC, Sim City is one of Ken Livingstone's favorites. Alex

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-19 Thread Natalie Ford
At 17:42 19/01/01, you wrote: Piers Cawley wrote: Greg Cope [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agreed - why work in London - what about telecommuters ? i.e I want to stay communtin to my desk - all 3 meters of it (the commute - I live in a small flat) I'm *really* unsure about

Re: OT : DVD

2001-01-19 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 03:32:53PM +, Paul Mison wrote: On 15/01/2001 at 21:12 +, mallum wrote: ^ Your clock's wrong... Maybe he's just really obsessed with Rush... dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-19 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, you wrote: But is treking into insert that good to working from home ? ADSL is cheap and working from home can be supprisingly productive. Where it's available. That would be 'not from my exchange in the forseeable future...' ISDN is cool .. and from this quarters

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-19 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, you wrote: I can do 200% as much work at home because I can work when and as I feel able to and so work when I am my most productive. well having spent the last year telecommuting I can affirm that it does let you sometimes work at phenomeonal rates But I also can see

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-19 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 05:04:54PM +, Piers Cawley wrote: I'm *really* unsure about telecommuting. Seems to me that the way to really build a team (especially when doing serious development) is to have people in the same room; Plus there's too many distractions at home. Even if you live

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-19 Thread Greg Cope
Piers Cawley wrote: Greg Cope [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley wrote: Greg Cope [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andy Wardley wrote: On Jan 18, 4:28pm, Leo Lapworth wrote: Ok, it's all a pipedream.. but what a nice one. It sounds like an excellent

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-19 Thread Greg Cope
David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 05:04:54PM +, Piers Cawley wrote: I'm *really* unsure about telecommuting. Seems to me that the way to really build a team (especially when doing serious development) is to have people in the same room; Plus there's too many

RE: RE:Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Andy Mendelsohn
From: Paul Makepeace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] From: "David Cantrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is a million considered a lot in the UK still? Not by people who can add up. OK, same here then. Having said that, it's amazing how much people can stretch a few $currency_unit if they

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