Re: Video Tips

2001-01-29 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [1]philips 2000 format, years ahead of its time, turn the tapes over like an audio cassette, 8 hours per tape, perfect picture in still frame (due to video head mounted on a piezo slab) earlies 80's tecnology!.. ahhh .. and we got spit vhs instead

Re: TPC5

2001-01-29 Thread DJ Adams
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 12:28:03PM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote: I want tutorial, paper, and talk proposals. Tutorials are a half- or full-day. Papers are 25 minutes long, and intended to be high-quality and academicish. Talks can be more informal and are either 25, 40, or 90 minutes in

Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Philip Newton
Mark Fowler wrote: [2] Bath.pm roots showing. We used to discuss a fair amount of technical (but not necessary perl related) stuff. From this, I quickly progressed into the well rounded perl programmer I am today Is that "well rounded perl programmer" in the sense that "grep is well

template toolkit .. one more kwestion

2001-01-29 Thread Robin Szemeti
OK .. this ones driving me dippy .. I'm playing with Template::Toolkit with a bit of MySQL and the usual things ... so I wrote a few functions that retreive lists of err stuff. for speed i use dbi's fetchall_arrayref which returns a reference to an array of references to arrays ...uh huh I

Re: template toolkit .. one more kwestion

2001-01-29 Thread Rob Partington
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this works fine if the function returns a list with more than one thing in it .. if there is only one thing in the array I get a 'dont know how to access [ 3 ].0 if for example item 3 is returned. if I access the result

Re: Video Tips

2001-01-29 Thread Simon Wistow
Dave Cross wrote: Here's a top tip. Don't try to video two hours of programs on an hour and a half of video tape. Does anyone happen to have Friday's Angel taped - I only really need the second half :( Anybody got the 1st half of the terrestrial Buffy from this week taped? And the second

Re: Video Tips

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Cross
At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:18:29 +, Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Cross wrote: Here's a top tip. Don't try to video two hours of programs on an hour and a half of video tape. Does anyone happen to have Friday's Angel taped - I only really need the second half :(

Re: Video Tips

2001-01-29 Thread Robert Shiels
Staying resolutely on-topic [1], I've started watching my "League of Gentlemen" first series DVD. This is a very good DVD indeed, with an second audio track by the cast talking about why they did everything. The DVD starts with a question "Are you Local ?" If you click "No" it switches off :)

Re: Video Tips

2001-01-29 Thread Struan Donald
* at 29/01 11:29 - Robert Shiels said: Staying resolutely on-topic [1], I've started watching my "League of Gentlemen" first series DVD. This is a very good DVD indeed, with an second audio track by the cast talking about why they did everything. The DVD starts with a question "Are

Re: Video Tips

2001-01-29 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, you wrote: The DVD starts with a question "Are you Local ?" If you click "No" it switches off :) reminds me of some Monty Pyton PC game .. Search for the Holy Grail. after a long intro the opening screen you get two options 'Get the Grail' and summink else .. Get the

Re: template toolkit .. one more kwestion

2001-01-29 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, you wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this works fine if the function returns a list with more than one thing in it .. if there is only one thing in the array I get a 'dont know how to access [ 3 ].0 if for example item 3 is

LAMP Stuff

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Cross
O'Reilly have launched a new site discussing LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl/Python/PHP) web development. Most of the current content seems to be links to existing O'Reilly Network content (e.g. perl.com), but it's a interesting start. And good to see the term being given credence by someone

Re: LAMP Stuff

2001-01-29 Thread Michael Stevens
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:52:37AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: O'Reilly have launched a new site discussing LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl/Python/PHP) web development. Most of the current content seems to be links to existing O'Reilly Network content (e.g. perl.com), but it's a interesting

Re: LAMP Stuff

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Cross
At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:58:44 +, Michael Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:52:37AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: O'Reilly have launched a new site discussing LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl/Python/PHP) web development. Most of the current content seems to be links

fspi

2001-01-29 Thread Greg McCarroll
i got a shiny copy of Dave's book in the post on saturday, very nice indeed -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Re: LAMP Stuff

2001-01-29 Thread Robert Shiels
http://www.onlamp.com/ Dave... /me wonders if Dave's article on the main page is at all relevant to this thread :-) /Robert

Re: HTML:Parser

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Cross
At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:07:27 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just installed HTML::Parser on a machine here. It passed all of make, make test and make install fine. (output from make test pasted) [snip] Then when I try to use it in the following file (which is a quick paste from

Re: HTML::Parser

2001-01-29 Thread Philip Newton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in ugly HTML: my $h = $parser-parse_file("/export/home/gharper/0,10225,1_1547_2168,00.htm"); This smells of the "V" word :-) $h-traverse(\expand_urls, 1); [snip] The output I get from this is Can't locate auto/HTML/Parser/traverse.al in @INC (@INC contains the

HTML:Parser

2001-01-29 Thread Gareth . Harper
Title: HTML:Parser I've just installed HTML::Parser on a machine here. It passed all of make, make test and make install fine. (output from make test pasted) bash-2.02$ make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl -Iblib/arch -Iblib/lib -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.00503/sun4-solaris

Re: fspi

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Cross
At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:12:01 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i got a shiny copy of Dave's book in the post on saturday, very nice indeed *blush* Thanks. Dave... [who hasn't actually got a copy yet!]

RE: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Matthew Jones
Speaking from a personal standpoint, I really enjoy the technical meetings and think more of them would be really beneficial[2]. I think they represent a lot of what we are us to and show that we're all not just talk 'n booze. Hence I'm anxious to see them succeed. I'd like to be able to

Re: Passwords

2001-01-29 Thread Michael Stevens
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:30:07PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: I just wanted to ask a brief question about passwords. I have access to about 10 SAP systems in my work at the moment, and all of them require a password, and these passwords all expire after 60 days. This will happen at random

RE: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Cross
At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:27:41 -, Matthew Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis? We'd be very happy for you to come along whenever you wanted to.

Re: fspi

2001-01-29 Thread James Powell
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:12:01PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: i got a shiny copy of Dave's book in the post on saturday, very nice indeed -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net Where did you get it from so quickly? Direct from Manning? jp

Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Matthew Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis? i assume odd beer is a typo and you mean't odd beers, i.e. an odd number of beers ( i've also decided

Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Michael Stevens
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:41:38PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: i assume odd beer is a typo and you mean't odd beers, i.e. an odd number of beers ( i've also decided that 1 is not an odd number ) seriously, i'm sure everyone would welcome you with open arms We are perl. you will be

Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Richard Clamp
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:28:07PM +, David Cantrell wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:27:41PM -, Matthew Jones wrote: So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis? You will, of

Re: fspi

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Cross
At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:46:40 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * James Powell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:12:01PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: i got a shiny copy of Dave's book in the post on saturday, very nice indeed Where did you get it

Re: fspi

2001-01-29 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:46:40 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * James Powell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:12:01PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: i got a shiny copy of Dave's book in the post on saturday,

Re: template toolkit .. one more kwestion solved

2001-01-29 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, you wrote: Sounds like your dereferencing function may be returning a SCALAR instead of an ARRAY when there's only one result? could be ... I had : my($data)=$sth-fetchall_arrayref; return @{$data}; which I thought should return a flat list of references to

Another Template Toolkit Q

2001-01-29 Thread Mark . Kitching
Title: Another Template Toolkit Q So TT nicely allows a filename, a filehandle or blank for STDOUT. So how to I capture the output to some variable so I could, say, manipulate that output without having to read the file I've outputted? Is that possible? Mark K.

Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:54:26PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: the minute i cross the river, i can feel grimness coming upon me And they all talk funny. North of the river they're all called Hamish and Angus, and they wear flat caps and have whippets. Greg (who was surfing for flats in

Re: Another Template Toolkit Q

2001-01-29 Thread Richard Clamp
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 03:17:10PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So TT nicely allows a filename, a filehandle or blank for STDOUT. So how to I capture the output to "some variable" so I could, say, manipulate that output without having to read the file I've outputted? Is that

Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Rob Partington
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And they all talk funny. North of the river they're all called Hamish and Angus, and they wear flat caps and have whippets. 'eyup! My uncle used to race greyhounds and whippets (and pigeons!) and I have a flat cap. But I

Re: Another Template Toolkit Q

2001-01-29 Thread Struan Donald
* at 29/01 15:17 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So TT nicely allows a filename, a filehandle or blank for STDOUT. So how to I capture the output to "some variable" so I could, say, manipulate that output without having to read the file I've outputted? Is that possible? mmm, this

RE: Another Template Toolkit Q

2001-01-29 Thread Mark . Kitching
Title: RE: Another Template Toolkit Q Hang on, isn't there an actual Template Toolkit mailing list. -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is? Well I know when I'm not wanted then :-) Mark k.

RE: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Matthew Jones
the minute i cross the river, i can feel grimness coming upon me And they all talk funny. North of the river they're all called Hamish and Angus, and they wear flat caps and have whippets. Eeeh, lad, 'appen tha's f'gottent' pigeon-fancying[1] and breakfasts consisting entirely of clotted

Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:54:26 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the minute i cross the river, i can feel grimness coming upon me AOL/ One of the big plus points for this jobs was that it was on the right (i.e. south) side of the

RE: Another Template Toolkit Q

2001-01-29 Thread Neil Ford
Hang on, isn't there an actual Template Toolkit mailing list. -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is? Well I know when I'm not wanted then :-) Mark k. Check http://www.tt2.org/info.html#lists for details. And it's not that you're not wanted :-) it's more that you're likely to get

Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Simon Wistow
Matthew Jones wrote: Dave is sitting in his living room, leafing through his back issues of "Canned Food and Preserved Rations Monthly". Wrong Dave. More like "Dave is lounging casually in his Chippendale, stroking his gold plated cat and having his feet massaged by a minion. Another lackey

RE: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 January 2001 15:34 just think of the sitcom possibilities if i lived above you Dave? heh? heh? ;-) ;-) Bit tricky that. What with us living in a house and all that. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential,

Re: template toolkit .. one more kwestion solved

2001-01-29 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:31:52PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: Reminds me of fits I had when doing Vignette/Tcl with lists of lists that I passed to another template with HTTP POST. When the list of lists contained only one element, it didn't wrap that list in extra {} so the foreach say a

Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:28:07PM +, David Cantrell wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:27:41PM -, Matthew Jones wrote: So how do That.pm feel about some northern tyke scuttling down to join you for the odd beer and tech meeting on a sort of semi-regular basis? You will, of

Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit]

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Cross
I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my reply? Dave... - Forwarded message from [snip] - Howdy, I'm curious why you prefer the TT to

Re: .emacs

2001-01-29 Thread Michael Stevens
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 07:53:00PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: I like my .emacs file. It sets nice fonts and colours, and sets the editing mode and wrapping mode of choice ;-) I'm sure it can do more... 1) Where do I find handy things to put into my .emacs file on the web? 2) Got any nice

Re: .emacs

2001-01-29 Thread Robin Houston
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:13:11PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: Hmm. Can you do something to save directly via scp? http://ls6-www.informatik.uni-dortmund.de/~grossjoh/emacs/tramp.html .robin. -- A man, a plan, a cat, a ham, a yak, a yam, a hat, a canal--Panama!

Re: Fwd: [uri@sysarch.com: free copy of data munging with perl]

2001-01-29 Thread Leon Brocard
Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether: I'd be failing in my duty as group leader if I didn't pass on this announcement from the Perl Mongers Group Leaders mailing list :) Yes. I've actually got a copy of this fine book lying in my bedroom right now. An actual book! Hardcopy!

Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:57:00PM +, Chris Benson wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:48:33PM +, Richard Clamp wrote: I'm from Birmingham damnit[0], which though north of the M25, is nowhere near as grim as proper up north. Oi! where you calling grim

Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit]

2001-01-29 Thread Leon Brocard
Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether: I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my reply? Embperl is entirely Apache and web

Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit]

2001-01-29 Thread Michael Stevens
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 09:31:30PM +, Leon Brocard wrote: I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my reply? Embperl is entirely Apache

Re: .emacs

2001-01-29 Thread Richard Clamp
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:26:32PM +, Robin Houston wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:13:11PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: Hmm. Can you do something to save directly via scp? http://ls6-www.informatik.uni-dortmund.de/~grossjoh/emacs/tramp.html See, that's what you get for posting

Re: Another Template Toolkit Q

2001-01-29 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So TT nicely allows a filename, a filehandle or blank for STDOUT. So how to I capture the output to "some variable" so I could, say, manipulate that output without having to read the file I've outputted?

RE: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 January 2001 15:34 just think of the sitcom possibilities if i lived above you Dave? heh? heh? ;-) ;-) Bit tricky that. What with us living in a house and all that. We have seagulls on our

Re: Fwd: [mengerin@deja.com: [?] Template Toolkit]

2001-01-29 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Leon Brocard wrote: Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether: I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my

Re: Fwd: [uri@sysarch.com: free copy of data munging with perl]

2001-01-29 Thread Mark Fowler
It's starting to sound like I@m the only bugger who _hasn't_ got a copy of my book yet :( Fret not, fearless nominal leader. Mine hasn't arrived yet either. Later. Mark. -- print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} ( Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title =

33 mails

2001-01-29 Thread Greg McCarroll
how the f*** did you lot send 33 mails to this list between when i left work and now? sheesh -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Re: Technical Meeting Venues

2001-01-29 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 January 2001 15:34 just think of the sitcom possibilities if i lived above you Dave? heh? heh? ;-) ;-) Bit tricky that. What with us

Re: Meeting Reminder

2001-01-29 Thread Greg McCarroll
i'd like to point out that this is an EXCEPTIONAL social meeting of London.pm due to MJD, the real meeting of course will be on the day after the first wednesday of the month * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There's a social meeting on Thursday 1st Feb (that's this coming Thursday).

Re: 33 mails

2001-01-29 Thread Mark Fowler
grep complained: how the f*** did you lot send 33 mails to this list between when i left work and now? sheesh Practice? We learn quickly, o wise teacher. Later. Mark. -- print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} ( Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title =

Re: 33 mails

2001-01-29 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: grep complained: how the f*** did you lot send 33 mails to this list between when i left work and now? sheesh Practice? We learn quickly, o wise teacher. its ok, i figured out why, some dum-shee (scottish word, ask Dave Can, who got

Re: 33 mails

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Cross
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 12:23:43AM +, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: if i can have 2 teams of 3 before tomorow (tuesday) night i'll come up with a drinking game/quiz based around perl/london.pm/computing trivia how about Dave Cross and MJD as team captains? I thought you

Re: Meeting Reminder

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Cross
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 12:09:01AM +, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There's a social meeting on Thursday 1st Feb (that's this coming Thursday). It will be in the Barrowboay Banker at the southern end of London Bridge.

Re: Fwd: [uri@sysarch.com: free copy of data munging with perl]

2001-01-29 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:03:19PM +, Dave Cross wrote: It's starting to sound like I@m the only bugger who _hasn't_ got a copy of my book yet :( I got a copy in the mail yesterday when I got home :-) -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Any

Re: Meeting Reminder

2001-01-29 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg's obviously started drinking again a couple of days too early. He knows full well that official london.pm social meetings are on the first Thursday of the month. This has _always_ been the case and I have no intention of changing it now. as i

Re: 33 mails

2001-01-29 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 12:23:43AM +, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: if i can have 2 teams of 3 before tomorow (tuesday) night i'll come up with a drinking game/quiz based around perl/london.pm/computing trivia how about Dave