Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-24 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 06:51:26PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: map g !G perl -MText::Autoformat -eautoformat CR map z !G perl -MText::Autoformat -e 'autoformat{ all = 1 }' CR ...shamelessly stolen, lock stock and barrel from Damian's article in the new TPJ. :-) Cool, thanks.

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-24 Thread Damian Conway
Damian is so cool... The next version of Text::Autoformat (which should be out before TPC5) will also leave header lines and sigs unmolested, making it truly useful for email tidying. Now if he'd just stop blaming me for stuff like DWIM.pm... ;-) Well, I would if you'd just stop

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-24 Thread Damian Conway
Minor problemette is, when 1.0.4 is called at the end of the file: Can't call method signature on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.0/Text/Autoformat.pm line 779. Noted and fixed for the next release. Damian

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-24 Thread Robert Shiels
Typical quotes from Simon this week: Oh, and fix your bloody line length. Roger, where we come from we have a word for people like that. Ripping that fucker out would be my first act. :) If you didn't want your code to be used under the license terms you set, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE SET THEM.

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-24 Thread Richard Clamp
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 09:13:12AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: Typical quotes from Simon this week: Ah, he'd be fine if it weren't for those fucking mood swings. -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Simon Wistow
Leon Brocard wrote: I could bring along Real Genius? (slightly more old-skool hackers though) Ooh, yes. I was going to dig out my (recorded-from-tv) copy of that from home next weekend. Can't seem to find it anywhere as an original. [0] I also have D.A.R.Y.L (Data Analyising Robot Youth

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-24 Thread Simon Wistow
Chris Ball wrote: I used to use At-mail a lot at work. Pseudo-interesting question of the day; do you really feel it was ripped off (in the stigmatism-attached sense of the word), or given that it was GPLed or Artistic'd anyway, that it's fair play to them and that's something that happens

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-24 Thread Mark Fowler
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Richard Clamp wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 09:13:12AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: Typical quotes from Simon this week: Ah, he'd be fine if it weren't for those fucking mood swings. You see, this is why we don't need to make a london-perl-mongers movie. If we did,

Re: POSIX::localeconv()/Germany

2001-05-24 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 03:05:59PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote: Wednesday, May 23, 2001, 2:45:24 PM, Dave Cross wrote: DC Haven't tried the routine you're talking about, but if you ever decide to DC give up on them, the Number::Format module (from CPAN) will solve all of DC your problems.

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also have D.A.R.Y.L (Data Analyising Robot Youth Lifeform) but I thinkt hat's pushing it a bit. If that counts, then Weird Science counts too! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-24 Thread Mark Fowler
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Simon Wistow wrote: Have no problem with them making money out of it it was just that it was ripped off and not released under the GPL and/or the changes sent back to us. They don't have to under the artistic licence. However, they do have to duplicate all of the

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Simon Wistow
Dave Hodgkinson wrote: If that counts, then Weird Science counts too! Got that as well. I'm more than willing to just put on the 'creation' scene from that.

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Mark Fowler
On 24 May 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also have D.A.R.Y.L (Data Analyising Robot Youth Lifeform) but I thinkt hat's pushing it a bit. If that counts, then Weird Science counts too! That's more geeksploitation or nerdsplotitation... Later.

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-24 Thread Leon Brocard
Paul Makepeace sent the following bits through the ether: Have you integrated into a mail server (module, procmail, whatever) .muttrc: set editor=/home/acme/bin/autoformat %s; xemacs -nw %s Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 24 May 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also have D.A.R.Y.L (Data Analyising Robot Youth Lifeform) but I thinkt hat's pushing it a bit. If that counts, then Weird Science counts too! That's more

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Simon Wistow
Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Wow, and she's got three kids by Steven Seagal. The eighties were a crazy decade and people did a lot of things they regret.

RE: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Matthew Jones
Wow, and she's got three kids by Steven Seagal. The eighties were a crazy decade and people did a lot of things they regret. Well, would *you* say no to Steven Seagal? -- matt jones 'What you have begun in anger you shall end in shame.'

RE: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Cross David - dcross
From: Matthew Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:05 AM Wow, and she's got three kids by Steven Seagal. The eighties were a crazy decade and people did a lot of things they regret. I know I did :) Well, would *you* say no to Steven Seagal? I strongly suspect I'd

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Cross David - dcross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Matthew Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:05 AM Wow, and she's got three kids by Steven Seagal. The eighties were a crazy decade and people did a lot of things they regret. I know I did :) Well,

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-24 Thread Mark Fowler
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Leon Brocard wrote: Paul Makepeace sent the following bits through the ether: Have you integrated into a mail server (module, procmail, whatever) .muttrc: set editor=/home/acme/bin/autoformat %s; xemacs -nw %s Leon in PINE S SETUP - C Config display-filters:

wantarray and Tied Hashed

2001-05-24 Thread Cross David - dcross
Apologies for dragging us off-topic again... Am I missing something obvious here? #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; package Tie::Hash::Test; use Tie::Hash; use vars qw(@ISA); @ISA = 'Tie::StdHash'; sub FETCH { print wantarray is , wantarray ? true\n : false\n; return $_[0]-{$_[1]}; }

RE: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Matthew Jones wrote: Wow, and she's got three kids by Steven Seagal. The eighties were a crazy decade and people did a lot of things they regret. Well, would *you* say no to Steven Seagal? personally, yes I would. -- Robin Szemeti

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-24 Thread Simon Cozens
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 09:21:08AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote: Well, I would if you'd just stop putting those evil thoughts in my head... Evil Ideas BOF at TPC. ISAGN. -- God Save the Queen! And let Satan take the Prime Minister... - Tanuki, in the monastery.

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-24 Thread Simon Cozens
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 09:59:12AM +0100, Richard Clamp wrote: Ah, he'd be fine if it weren't for those fucking mood swings. You mean I'm nice at times? -- Ever wake up feeling like a null pointer? -Allan Pratt

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Well, would *you* say no to Steven Seagal? I strongly suspect I'd say no to having his kids! but he can also cook! -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

RE: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Cross David - dcross
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:07 PM * Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Well, would *you* say no to Steven Seagal? I strongly suspect I'd say no to having his kids! but he can also cook! Can he? I wouldn't know. I know nothing

RE: wantarray and Tied Hashed

2001-05-24 Thread Cross David - dcross
[snip] An update - Calling FETCH like this: $scalar = tied(%h)-FETCH('one'); @array = tied(%h)-FETCH('two'); Does the 'right' thing. So it's certainly something in the tie interface. Dave... [contemplating searching the perl source code] -- The information contained in this

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Simon Wistow
Greg McCarroll wrote: but [Steven Seagal] can also cook! And he's rather good at Aikido (he's a 7th Dan and also a shinto priest IIRC). I vaguely rmemeber something about him openign up the first wstern run Aikido dojo in Japan but I have absoultley no way of backing that up.

Re: Election Manifestos

2001-05-24 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 09:59:12AM +0100, Richard Clamp wrote: Ah, he'd be fine if it weren't for those fucking mood swings. You mean I'm nice at times? Aren't you standing for London.pm in the election? -- Dave Hodgkinson,

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Barbie
From: Cross David - dcross [EMAIL PROTECTED] but he can also cook! Can he? I wouldn't know. I know nothing about him other than he appears in films that I have no interest in. Don't think I've seen a single film with him in. I remember going to see Executive Decision at the cinema and the

Re: wantarray and Tied Hashed

2001-05-24 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 11:28:27AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: package Tie::Hash::Test; sub FETCH { print wantarray is , wantarray ? true\n : false\n; return $_[0]-{$_[1]}; } package main; my %h; tie %h, 'Tie::Hash::Test'; %h = (one = 1, two = 2); my $scalar =

Re: wantarray and Tied Hashed

2001-05-24 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 12:28:39PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: Calling FETCH like this: $scalar = tied(%h)-FETCH('one'); @array = tied(%h)-FETCH('two'); Does the 'right' thing. So it's certainly something in the tie interface. Well yes, because you're just calling a plain ol'

Re: Buffy gear

2001-05-24 Thread Niklas Nordebo
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:30:25PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: eughh! when you say 'Buffy gear' do you mean as in 'we guarantee these were worn by Buffy ... ' or something entirely more celeubrious ?

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Chris Devers
At 11:23 AM 2001.05.24 +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Apropos nothing, there was a guy who took over at Fusion in the early nineties who was a skinny, bookish, Jewishish type. And his name was Steve Segal. Of course, as soon as we heard, he became Steven Seagal pronounced in the dramatic movie

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Chris Devers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 11:23 AM 2001.05.24 +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Apropos nothing, there was a guy who took over at Fusion in the early nineties who was a skinny, bookish, Jewishish type. And his name was Steve Segal. Of course, as soon as we heard, he became

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Barbie
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seem to remember an extremely soft porn-ish film with julie andrews at one stage, all i can remember is giant toy soldiers. I don't think porn is even the right title it was more just weird. You're thinking of the comedy S.O.B., where a film director

Beer fest beckons

2001-05-24 Thread Lucy McWilliam
The short story: free beer - bye for now The long story: So I get a call on my mobile in the middle of the beer fest from a potential collaborator telling me he can't send me the promised documentation due to the fact my inbox has exploded spectacularly and exceeded my meagre disk quota. Given

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-24 Thread Piers Cawley
Damian Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Damian is so cool... The next version of Text::Autoformat (which should be out before TPC5) will also leave header lines and sigs unmolested, making it truly useful for email tidying. Huzzah! -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21

2001-05-24 Thread Leon Brocard
This is the eighteenth weekly summary of the London Perl Mongers mailing list. For the random week starting 2001-05-21: Don't forget the London.pm website for meetings etc. The next meeting is an social meeting apparently on Thursday 7th June which clashes with elections, although there is also

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Piers Cawley
Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 24 May 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also have D.A.R.Y.L (Data Analyising Robot Youth Lifeform) but I thinkt hat's pushing it a bit. If that counts, then Weird Science counts too! That's more

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Simon Wistow
Piers Cawley wrote: And if anyone has a half decent copy of _Better Off Dead_ (early John Cusack film) I'd be *very* happy to see it again. Even though it's not quite in this genre, and I won't be making it to the film fest anyway... No but I do have The Sure Thing (imdb: John

Another Perl Question

2001-05-24 Thread jduncan
I know, I know, this makes a grand total of three posted to the list in one day :-) I have what will usually be a list of objects, but on occasions nasty programmers (including me) do things to annoy me like inserting a hashref, so I end up with a data structure that looks like: [

Re: Another Perl Question

2001-05-24 Thread Richard Clamp
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 04:13:35PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions? use Scalar::Util qw( blessed ); -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: wantarray and Tied Hashed

2001-05-24 Thread Cross David - dcross
From: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:57 PM On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 11:28:27AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: package Tie::Hash::Test; sub FETCH { print wantarray is , wantarray ? true\n : false\n; return $_[0]-{$_[1]}; } package main;

Re: Another Perl Question

2001-05-24 Thread jduncan
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 04:16:44PM +0100, Richard Clamp wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 04:13:35PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions? use Scalar::Util qw( blessed ); grinthat was what I was looking for/grin --james PGP signature

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Piers Cawley
Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley wrote: And if anyone has a half decent copy of _Better Off Dead_ (early John Cusack film) I'd be *very* happy to see it again. Even though it's not quite in this genre, and I won't be making it to the film fest anyway... No but I

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Piers Cawley
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley wrote: And if anyone has a half decent copy of _Better Off Dead_ (early John Cusack film) I'd be *very* happy to see it again. Even though it's not quite in this genre, and I won't be

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Mark Fowler
Piers asked: The sure thing Ooh. Not seen that one. Is it any good? And that's Anthony TopGun, Northern Exposure, ER Edwards to you. Any good, any good? It's only my all time favourite film of all time[1]. Where frat movie meets romantic comedy, on a road trip. Quite a few good one

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21

2001-05-24 Thread Redvers Davies
http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/int-trde/misc/foot/flyer.pdf About that flyer... FMD presents no risks to humans but is a serious threat to animal health. That is not strictly true... FMD is not a threat to animal health, the MAFF slaughters are.

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-24 Thread David H. Adler
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 09:21:08AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote: Now if he'd just stop blaming me for stuff like DWIM.pm... ;-) Well, I would if you'd just stop putting those evil thoughts in my head... The David made me do it!?? :-) dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Piers Cawley
Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers asked: The sure thing Ooh. Not seen that one. Is it any good? And that's Anthony TopGun, Northern Exposure, ER Edwards to you. Any good, any good? It's only my all time favourite film of all time[1]. Where frat movie meets romantic

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21

2001-05-24 Thread Piers Cawley
Redvers Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/int-trde/misc/foot/flyer.pdf About that flyer... FMD presents no risks to humans but is a serious threat to animal health. That is not strictly true... FMD is not a threat to animal health, the MAFF slaughters are.

Re: [martin@pkl.net: BBC Online: Ask Jack Straw - *Today*, 16:45 BST]

2001-05-24 Thread Martin Ling
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 04:08:49PM +0100, will wrote: Ressurect the RIP flames, why not. Jack Straw will be answering your questions on 24 May, live at 1645 BST. Use the form below to send them so they can be logged and we will then know who you are and what your opinions you have. I'm

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21

2001-05-24 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Redvers Davies wrote: http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/int-trde/misc/foot/flyer.pdf About that flyer... FMD presents no risks to humans but is a serious threat to animal health. That is not strictly true... FMD is not a threat to animal health, the MAFF slaughters

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21

2001-05-24 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Piers Cawley wrote: Redvers Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/int-trde/misc/foot/flyer.pdf About that flyer... FMD presents no risks to humans but is a serious threat to animal health. That is not strictly true... FMD is not a

Re: Email Style (was: Re: Election Manifestos)

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 09:21:08AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote: Now if he'd just stop blaming me for stuff like DWIM.pm... ;-) Well, I would if you'd just stop putting those evil thoughts in my head... The David made me do it!??

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-05-21

2001-05-24 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 06:00:53PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Redvers Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.maff.gov.uk/animalh/int-trde/misc/foot/flyer.pdf About that flyer... FMD presents no risks to humans but is a serious threat to animal health. That is not strictly

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Piers Cawley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers asked: The sure thing Ooh. Not seen that one. Is it any good? And that's Anthony TopGun, Northern Exposure, ER Edwards to you. Any good, any good? It's only my all time favourite film of

Re: Beer fest beckons

2001-05-24 Thread Dave Cross
At 23:00 24/05/2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 03:28:49PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: So I get a call on my mobile in the middle of the beer fest from a potential collaborator telling me he can't send me the promised documentation due to the fact my inbox has exploded

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Barbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seem to remember an extremely soft porn-ish film with julie andrews at one stage, all i can remember is giant toy soldiers. I don't think porn is even the right title it was more just weird. You're thinking

Re: Beer fest beckons

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 03:28:49PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: So I get a call on my mobile in the middle of the beer fest from a potential collaborator telling me he can't send me the promised documentation due to the fact my inbox has

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Dave Cross
At 23:18 24/05/2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Barbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seem to remember an extremely soft porn-ish film with julie andrews at one stage, all i can remember is giant toy soldiers. I don't think porn is even the right

Re: Beer fest beckons

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 23:00 24/05/2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 03:28:49PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: So I get a call on my mobile in the middle of the beer fest from a potential collaborator telling me he can't send me the promised

crazy golf

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
What ever happened to the london.pm crazy golf game? -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Forwarded : Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
actually, i failed, my CC to lucy screwed up due to complicated reasons regarding BT (ISP) ADSL lines, so if someone could forward this it would be good - Forwarded message from Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 23:24:15

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 23:18 24/05/2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Barbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seem to remember an extremely soft porn-ish film with julie andrews at one stage, all i can remember is giant toy

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-24 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 23:18 24/05/2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Barbie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seem to remember an extremely soft porn-ish film with julie andrews at