Re: Sun's Perl was Re: Application servers and e-commerce platforms

2001-01-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 10:35:45AM +, Steve Mynott wrote: I suspect things like SMP probably still work better. And if I were on call supporting a server I would probably still trust a Sparc running Solaris over some dodgy PC desktop with Redhat stuck on it by a hobbyist who has never

Re: Sun's Perl was Re: Application servers and e-commerce platforms

2001-01-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 01:59:09PM +, Steve Mynott wrote: Rob Partington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On RedHat I can do something like 'rpm -e sendmail' to clean up before installing qmail and, alas, I can't do this

Re: Sun's Perl was Re: Application servers and e-commerce platforms

2001-01-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 12:08:22PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: I've encountered good support for Veritas' Netbackup package, but again we were paying about 6k / annum for the support contract. Lucky you! I spit on the earth that NetBackup walks on! It's one of the worst packages I've

Re: Sun's Perl was Re: Application servers and e-commerce platforms

2001-01-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 05:19:08PM +, Redvers Davies wrote: Stop IT ... I am not using slackware ! Ans why not?? For a server it is perfect. Very small, very compact. Perfect for a secure environment. Is that why slackware.com got broken into a few weeks ago then? :-) -Dom

Re: the list

2001-01-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 12:04:54PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It's oh so quiet. After recent activity this is somewhat disconcerting. everyone is probably reading up on ruby in preparation for it taking over the world Well, there's a

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:24:20AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: Here's an interesting page[1] Have a URL for that, guv? -Dom

Re: Penderel Configuration

2001-02-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 04:21:34PM -, Andrew Bowman wrote: It may be heresy to admit it around here (come on then MuttCarroll!), but I actually quite like Outlook Express (as distinct from Outlook) as a mail client. Once it's configured to disable scripting etc. it's biggest flaw, aside

Re: Amazon (was: RE: DMP Availability)

2001-02-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 12:06:32PM -, dcross - David Cross wrote: Since I gave up Amazon, I've found myself going into bookshops more. Browsing in a bookshop is still _by far_ the best way to buy books. And I end up buying more books. That's the problem! -Dom

Re: Car giveaway

2001-02-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 02:30:00PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Richard Clamp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This is very off-topic, but it's too late now :) I have a B registered Sierra to get shot of[1], no tax, no mot, runs (though right now the battery is very flat) Why not turn

Re: No http://london.pm/ :-(

2001-02-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:15:27AM +, Michael Stevens wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:06:07AM +, Paul Mison wrote: On 22/02/2001 at 16:24 +, Dave Cross wrote: IIRC we also investigated the possibility of registering pm.org.uk, but Nominet have a silly rule that prevents

Re: linux kernel

2001-02-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 11:40:08AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: [gem@scully linux-2.3.37]$ ls arch/ alpha arm i386 m68k mips ppc sh sparc sparc64 You know that shell coders have gone too far when they have their own kernel architecture. -Dom

Re: DMP Availability

2001-02-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 11:50:44AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, you're just copying the References: header from the message you're replying to, when you should be appending its Message-id: too. If you're not going to do that, then at least stick an In-reply-to: header in, so threading

Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 04:38:49AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: p.s. And don't get me started on my nightmare journey. I thought that all night buses went thru Trafalgar Sq - the N19 doesn't :( Ugh. At least I got on the right end of the train and ended upin Brighton... I think that connex just

Re: Ruby

2001-03-01 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 02:15:01PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Hey, The language Ruby looks really cool. Can anyone tell me: 1. Why on earth you'd use Python instead of Ruby. Because Python is a lot cleaner and more elegant? And doesn't require all those daft nested "end"s? But I'm

Re: Scraping news feeds?

2001-03-07 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 04:36:56PM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: What's the best way to scrape a variety of news headlines from various sites? Sort of a moreover for the intranet... Probably using RSS (XML file format) and XML::RSS (which includes a nice scraper tool). -Dom

Re: RPC stuff

2001-03-09 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 02:54:23PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: What's the best way forward for RPC / distributed Perl stuff? I don't need anything super complicated, but RPC::Simple seems to want to use Tk ?! I've just been doing stuff in PlRPC and it works quite well. It's based on

Re: h2xs makemaker

2001-03-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 04:09:17PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote: whilst getting to grips with h2xs this week (which is nowhere near as scary as i thought) I read a really good tutorial on building perl modules that started with: 1) use h2xs 2) use h2xs 3) USE H2XS I think it twas in

Re: Matt's Scripts

2001-03-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:55:28PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:34:32PM +, Jon Eyre wrote: My several users use scp. is there an idiot-proof graphical front-end for scp? windows clients? my several users require them, or they'll just continue using ftp,

Re: Matt's Scripts

2001-03-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:57:41PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:34:32PM +, Jon Eyre typed: is there an idiot-proof graphical front-end for scp? windows clients? PuTTY. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ In case anybody hasn't

Re: Matt's Scripts

2001-03-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 03:08:03PM +, Struan Donald wrote: and people are worrying about plain scp confusing people? ssh tunneling is one of those things that appears close enough to magic that people assume it is. damn useful magic though. plus it always seems such a pain on windows

Re: Matt's Scripts

2001-03-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 03:13:46PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: There is a GUI front-end for pscp, available from http://www.i-tree.org/, apparently, although I haven't tried it. This is kind of flakey, and has trouble with stuff like files owned by a user or group with more than 8

Re: Matt's Scripts

2001-03-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 03:22:59PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 04:10:02PM +, David Cantrell wrote: WebDAV is not OK, cos it means installing yet more stuff on the server which is simply not needed. If a user can't use scp, then I don't want that user. I

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-03-12

2001-03-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:19:54PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:18:09PM +, Simon Cozens wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:02:04PM +, Leon Brocard wrote: a picture of him drinking a beer from the London.pm website. Misparse! Misparse! Misparse!

Re: [Need] A Perl HTML to Text converter

2001-03-16 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 08:07:39AM -0500, Andy Williams wrote: Does anyone know of a HTML to Text converter written in Perl? It'll need to be able to format tables!! I normally use lynx to do it but it doesn't handle tables very well :( It's not Perl, but try using w3m instead. It's a

Re: [Need] A Perl HTML to Text converter

2001-03-16 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 02:14:02PM +, Rob Partington wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's not Perl, but try using w3m instead. It's a far superior text mode browser. Lynx is from the stone age. :-) insert standard rant about

Re: [ot] NetBSD

2001-03-20 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:20:19PM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Resetting the root password is not too difficult, I think (I'm more used to FreeBSD, this will /probably/ work. Once booted into single user mode, do: # mount -u / # ed /etc/master.passwd 1s/:[^:]*/:/ p

Re: [ot] NetBSD

2001-03-20 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:20:19PM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: I'm not totally certain things are the same on NetBSD, but you should be able to get going, by looking at this and the man pages on www.netbsd.org. You may also want to use the source code: ftp://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/NetBSD

Re: [ot] NetBSD

2001-03-20 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 01:08:22PM +, David Cantrell wrote: A quick question for all the BSD people. How do I boot NetBSD into single-user mode? In case it matters, this is on Sparc. A pint for whoever helps me reset the root password :-) ok boot -s You may need variations on

Re: [ot] NetBSD

2001-03-20 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 05:53:32PM +, David Cantrell wrote: Summary: pwd_mkdb didn't work, so I tried re-installing (it was a fresh install I'd broken anyway). I then proceded to get very annoyed with the NetBSD installer, because it doesn't let you go back and correct your stupid

Re: Debuggers (was Re: Perl Training Courses)

2001-03-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:09:19AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: Not sure they can even spell 'ssh' here :) Let me explain the set-up. I have a PC running Win95. I access a number of IBM AIX machines using putty. When I first joined, I asked about the possibility of getting Exceed installed, but

Re: Perl Training Courses

2001-03-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 12:55:49PM -, Hamlet D'Arcy wrote: From listening to the conversation about debugging tools, it seems to me that the perspective of the list might be skewed. Print statements are great when you're debugging your own code or even someone else's code on small

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:19:27PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: Robin Szemeti wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, you wrote: BTW - I've just had some fun trying to uncompress a .zip file on Linux! tar gzip and gunzip don't seem to want to know. Guess that makes me a luser! you need

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:27:51PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:19:27PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: [unzip] Which, according to its home page at http://www.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/UnZip.html , is "the third most portable pr

Re: mmm ... toys ..

2001-03-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 01:59:18AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: mmm .. by some dint of fate I appear to be the proud owner of a rather nice new Dell laptop. Bit slow ( 850mhz P3 ) and 128 mb of ram is hardly enough to run Vi in is it .. a poxy 32Gb hard disc means I'll probably run out

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:08:00PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: is it? ... sure you don't mean 'the database used by most large corporates for e-commerce' ? I know nothing about the spread of spend between the large coprporations and the small 5 dollar outfits .. but theres a hell of a lot of

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:56:36AM +0100, James Powell wrote: Course, mysql does support transactions now... I believe with two different types of table for some reason. It's because the underlying table type is implemented using Berkeley DB3, which does support transactions. And that has

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 03:55:57AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: At Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:51:46 +0100 (BST), alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps2 PCSE - Perl Certified Software Engineer? lack of imagination? Shouldn't that be CPH for "Certified Perl Hacker" or is that missing the point? Certified

Re: Jedi

2001-04-03 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:55PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: I was listening to 5 live in the car today and a caller pointed out that in the census, it takes 20,000 people to make a religion official and rather than use his usual "agnostic" box, he was going to put down "Jedi". This is

Re: Linux.com Online Chat

2001-04-04 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:20:25AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Tell all your friends. No heckling. Does that mean we can heckle but they can't? :-) -Dom

Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)

2001-04-04 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:37:07AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2001 09:32 On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:20:25AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Tell all your friends. No heckling. Does that mean we can heckle

Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)

2001-04-04 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:17:24AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Funnily, enough, no. I was born in 1974, I've never been taught english grammar and I know of nobody who has. It's actually quite annoying as Me too, ('74

Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)

2001-04-04 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:32:22AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Dave... [who makes lots of typos - but _knows_ they are typos] There's nothing wrong with typos. It's obvious that they are tyops from the error. It just means that the person was thinking faster than typing and forgot the

Re:

2001-04-04 Thread Dominic Mitchell
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Re: Test

2001-04-04 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:25:50PM +0100, Clarke, Darren wrote: Sorry all - this is a test... :P Bloomin' Outlook HTML ... *grumble* Darren Newbie Loser You don't get away from a Newbie without learning though. Anyway, tip-o-the-day for mutt users. How to get HTML

Re: [HELP] Traceroute

2001-04-05 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:33:19AM -0400, Andy Williams wrote: Hi, Can any one tell me what this traceroute actually means... it has me completely confused (not that difficult actually!!) traceroute 195.153.113.229 traceroute to 195.153.113.229 (195.153.113.229), 30 hops max, 40 byte

Re: Test

2001-04-06 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:57:08PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:40:03PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Anyway, tip-o-the-day for mutt users. How to get HTML viewed easily and automatically. I'm not 100% sure of the security aspects, but it's still better than

Re: Test

2001-04-06 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:37:54AM +0200, Merijn Broeren wrote: On the risk of offending the person who gets really tired of the w3m-is-better meme, I prefer w3m because I get send so many tables in html, they show up real nice. I found a problem with w3m (which I admittedly didn't look at

Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??

2001-04-06 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:18:13PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:36:40AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunatly this is largely a valid point. Perl is not used by many *professional* people. Perl is used by a lot of people, and some of them are professional,

Re: Perl on HPUX

2001-04-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:11:07PM +0100, Dean wrote: Hi All Question for the list, i'm currently writing some scripts for a HP box running HPUX 11 and i keep hitting the same error when ever i try and use something (even 'use strict;'.) The error is "syntax error in file p2.pl at line

Re: Perl on HPUX

2001-04-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:17:55PM +0100, Dean wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:13:59PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: /usr/contrib/bin/perl -V To find out what version it is and post back. DOH! Its running 4.0.1.8 Should have spotted that... Next time you get told the dev box

Re: TPJ Reborn

2001-04-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 05:44:57PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: Sorry, ol bean, I'm already piping this list through two bots (my archiver and my URL-hunter). They don't say anything in public though. Yet. You could make them auto-send a rude message on encountering text/html... -Dom

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:59:51AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Who said "release early, release often". Apple are doing the right thing, IMO. Probably Eric Raymond. Which reminds me, there used to be a comment in the code for an authentication server at Demon: /* fork early, fork often

Re: Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 03:25:09AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Anyone hackers here sent broadcast packets? I think this is how you do it: #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use Socket; my $dst = inet_aton("172.30.255.255"); socket(SOCKET, PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, getprotobyname("udp"))

Re: Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:02:29AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:49:20AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: If you have a complete /usr/src installed, look in there for examples of how it's done in C (it looks like you have a BSD machine - so it's quite likely /usr

Re: Broadcast datagrams

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:26:56AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 12:11:45PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: You're probably going to have to grep through the kernel source to see why it's being returned in that case. And I have a sneaky suspicion that the networking

Re: CPAN search from mozilla address bar

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 01:35:25PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: no idea if anyone will find this useful but: if you use mozilla (on linux/*nix at least) stick this: search name="CPAN" description="CPAN Search" method="GET" action="http://search.cpan.org/search" input

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:26:42PM +0100, Dean wrote: I've been using this for C coding recently and its not too bad. It has a couple of nice tricks though like clicking on the compile errors and being taken to the line. Emacs has been able to do this for probably 10 years or more. I think

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:47:57PM +0100, Dean wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:34:49PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Emacs has been able to do this for probably 10 years or more. I think even vim can do it now, too. Never noticed that! I normally edit my code in emacs and do

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:43:20PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Alexis Denisof (who plays Wesley) is going out with Alyson Hannigan (Willow). For some reason, this is made even worse by the automatic word association of "Wesley" and "Crusher". Excuse me whilst I puke now. -Dom

Re: Beginners Guide

2001-04-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:49:09PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: And there was me thinking that Chris was going to say that he doesn't have a TV either. But he didn't. I don't have a TV. But I'm currently camped out in my parents house, and they have 2. But I learn that they will both be

Re: Beginners Guide

2001-04-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:29:09AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: From: "Dominic Mitchell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dunno, but I sure hope the digital packages get a bit better than the current offerings otherwise I'll just switch off the telly and not turn it on again... -Dom (resents p

Re: Komodo

2001-04-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:02:03AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:34:49PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Emacs has been able to do this for probably 10 years or more. I think even vim can do it now, too. Never noticed that! I

Re: next social meeting vs tube strike

2001-04-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:40:02PM +0100, Mike Wyer wrote: Camels are quite hard to see at London Zoo at the moment, owing to the foot 'n mouth situation. I was there a couple of weeks back, and the heffalump house was shut. The penguins ain't bad, though. Last time I saw penguins at a zoo,

Re: MySQL - Oracle wrapper/compat. libs

2001-04-24 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 02:58:23AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: Here's a perl question (OK, not really).. Is anyone aware of a compatibility/wrapper library which a developer could use to take an app using the MySQL API and with some (ideally) minimal munging turn it into Oracle OCI or Pro*C

Online Banking (was: Re: Good Accountants)

2001-04-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 09:49:34AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: I went with Barclays because they gave 12 months free banking and could group the online banking with my personal accounts. On a side issue, do you know of any online banks that allow personal accounts to download historical

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-23

2001-04-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 02:05:38PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: Jon Galliers asked about naming a file correctly when downloading from a CGI. Niklas Nordebo and Merijn Broeren provided solutions: http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04654.html Doh! We entirely missed

Re: Good Accountants

2001-04-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:41:00AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: [ and don't even ask me about the time Demon distributed some pox ridden disk with IE4.1 on it ..'err I just installed the latest version of Turnpike and seem to have inherited IE4 .. how do I get rid of it as its screwed my

Re: Good Accountants

2001-04-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 09:23:16AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Robin Szemeti wrote: now I am absolutely totally 100% certain that some web browser (and thats all it is) should *not* mess around with the way I view folders. I think that was a turning point for me and my judgement is

Re: Good Accountants

2001-04-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 01:59:53PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, you wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 10:11:40AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Ho ho, you should have heard the stick that support got from that little prank. Have you been sent a green CD, sir? We'd

Re: Good Accountants

2001-04-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 02:30:20PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: Philip Newton wrote: Chris Ball wrote: Are postings subscriber only ..? ] Subscriber not even, more like. I bet this email never makes it to the list for a start. I blame majordomo, when's that mailman thing getting

Re: Mailbox power ..

2001-04-30 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 09:04:39AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: this mornings powerdown @ 06:00 .. what time did yours come back up and has it gone up and down again since then .. mines been down twice :( Oh bcks. Mine hasn't come back up at all. H.. I have a feeling Sun's

Re: Stuffed camel

2001-05-02 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 12:00:11AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: At 19:25 29/04/2001, Leon Brocard wrote: Can *someone* please pick a date to go visit the camel? Can't be done until a) the foot and mouth stuff has died down and b) I've worked out exactly who has paid for slices. homerMmmm...

Re: tube strike / may meeting postponed til 10th

2001-05-02 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:57:08PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: PO? dipsy ask po to do webby things like googling. He won't core dump. Promise. +or not dadadodo or not here while hitherto is on holiday po Dom2? dipsy hmmm... Dom2 is still annoyed by how bad emacs is at doing xml,

Re: More revolting natives

2001-05-04 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:47:43PM +0100, Dean wrote: On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:32:35PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: Well, the 13 year old now claims to be 20. But no, this is his friend bk who kills people for a living in Hereford! Um. I no longer want children. You *wanted*

Re: Bah!

2001-05-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:54:04AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: David Cantrell wrote: http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/cv I was going to post I can't open that in Microsoft Word; please re-send it as a joke, but when I tried to open the PDF version using the Acrobat plug-in in Netscape, I

Re: Bah!

2001-05-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 11:18:22AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:54:04AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: David Cantrell wrote: http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/cv I was going to post I can't open that in Microsoft Word; please re-send it as a joke, but when I

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 04:35:29PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: kind of off topic but how do you get things like ^M and such like into a file for, say, writing vi macros? i've had a look through some docs but i'm beggining to suspect it's one of those bit of unix aracana know to a chosen

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 04:44:41PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: In Emacs, it's ^Q, then the character you want. only ^Q? that's not like emacs :) Well, it's assuming that nobody's fiddled with the keymaps. You could alternatively do: M-x quoted-insert RET RET -Dom

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:25:00PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: If your terminal has flow control enabled it will eat ^Q and ^S for you. stty -ixon removes this problem. But then how do you pause that long ls listing when your less,more,pg,sed,awkperl binaries are all fscked? :-) -Dom

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:10:13AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:25:00PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: If your terminal has flow control enabled it will eat ^Q and ^S for you. stty -ixon removes this problem. But then how do you

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:41:20AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: assuming you can get into a bourne shell, you can still do things like write cat(1) in sh, as well. This is not going to help you pause output. Although it'd be hard to control without ^S and ^Q

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:14:08AM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:41:20AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Dominic Mitchell wrote: assuming you can get into a bourne shell, you can still do things like write cat

Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
How many things do you have on top of your monitor? -Dom

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:33:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? monitor type=flatscreen None ;-) / Boring! You should be able to manage some clip on furry animals. For reference, I have

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:43:29PM +0200, Niklas Nordebo wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:22:04PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: How many things do you have on top of your monitor? I have a solitary copy of a japanese netsuke depicting a cat. My machine is name 'neko', which is japanese

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:48:40PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: Philip Newton wrote: I generally bring one of my small stuffed toys to work ^ or my wife's. She has me than I. Eeek, I have more than my SO and I am wondering if in fact

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:59:13PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: From: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 4:22 PM How many things do you have on top of your monitor? Here - none (not sure why my mini-Tux never made it to Acxiom) At home - many things

Re: Monitors

2001-05-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:15:56PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: (I don't eat chocolate.) *shock* It's not strictly necessary, as you still get the kinder egg toys... -Dom

Re: Long Dark Teatime of the Soul

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 05:55:56PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 11:56:48AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1326000/1326657.stm Unfortunately I got the phone call at 7:10 this morning :-( Definitely a strange day. It got

Re: UK programmers left-wing? was Re: BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:19:27AM +, Steve Mynott wrote: There are certainly far fewer left-wing bookshops now than twenty years ago. Most of the young seem now more interested in single issues like animal rights, globalisation etc then traditional socialism. Hey, that's just the young

Re: Monitors

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:52:06AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Me neither. I came to the startling conclusion about 5 years ago that I don't really like. I don't hate it, just don't particularly enjoy it except in odd moods and even then mostly dark chocolate. Will drool for Green Black's

Re: Long Dark Teatime of the Soul

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 11:56:48AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1326000/1326657.stm Amongst the many other tributes floating around, I found this one quite entertaining: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010513 -Dom

Bioinformatics jobs (was: Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license))

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:18:00PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:06:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you compscis to the bioinformatics revolution? I've always thought it sounded like fun. How does one go

Re: JAMES DUNCAN

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:24:54PM +0100, Melissa Fivelman wrote: Just to let you know that we have had numerous e-mails coming in addressed to James Duncan from your address. He no longer works for ebookers. Please delete his address asap. Many thanks Melissa Fivelman IT

Re: JAMES DUNCAN

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:32:32PM +, Steve Mynott wrote: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you really work for ebookers.com, why are you sending from a hotmail address? It doesn't lend credence to your request to have somebody else unsubscribed from this list

Re: JAMES DUNCAN

2001-05-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 04:42:27PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote: On or about Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:32:32PM +, Steve Mynott typed: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you really work for ebookers.com, why are you sending from a hotmail address? It doesn't lend credence

Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:04:43PM +0100, Natalie Ford wrote: At 15:09 14/05/01, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Please, would you take the politics elsewhere? Some of us really don't give a shit either way. Hear hear! I am getting tired of hitting delete... :) procmail++ If anybody wants a hand

Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] However what i'd really hate is any restrictions placed on the topics of London.pm , politics should be just as welcome as BtVS. Or, even, Perl :) Oh, please, we have *some*

Re: Caller ID (was Re: Enough!)

2001-05-16 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:59:07AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: I do keep intending to do something cute with my ISDN adapter and log the stuff coming out of the D channel and see whats in there ... but time has prevented it etc. I'd be interested to hear how you get on... I was under the

Re: Latest Perl Journal

2001-05-16 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:19:36PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:05:25AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: Loved the footnote on page 78. Thanks very much. It's one of my favourite jokes. It was trialed at a london.pm technical meeting some months ago :)

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