Re: Donation..

2000-12-18 Thread Piers Cawley
"Leo Lapworth" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, ok, *stop twisting my arm Greg!* yes we did get Aaron from the perl list. So I've wangled the authorisation for $500 as a donation to YAS. Leon asked me to 'trust' him and give him the money, so if it doesn't get there you know who to

Re: Getting keys of mappe @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/;d hash?

2001-01-03 Thread Piers Cawley
Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, my brain has fried. How can I do this: my @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/; my %hash = map { $_ = 1 } @men; my @sort = sort keys %hash; print "We have @sort\n"; # foo bar baz without the %hash? i.e. something akin to: my @sort = sort

Re: Getting keys of mappe @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/;d hash?

2001-01-04 Thread Piers Cawley
Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:16:06AM +, Piers Cawley wrote: How can I do this: my @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/; my %hash = map { $_ = 1 } @men; my @sort = sort keys %hash; print "We have @sort\n"; # foo bar baz without

Re: Fwd: [orwant@oreilly.com: The state of TPJ]

2001-01-04 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: More on the TPJ saga. [...] Hmm... I wonder when I'm going to get my long term subscription repaid. -- Piers

Re: JOB: At A Very Well-Known Company

2001-01-04 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The skills are required for someone to look after the live data feeds: Strong Perl (including DBI). Strong UNIX. Reasonable SQL, with a knowledge of Oracle (or similar DBMS). Must know basics of HTML and XML. Must understand CGI and have a good/

Re: Getting keys of mappe @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/;d hash?

2001-01-04 Thread Piers Cawley
Shevek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 4 Jan 2001, Piers Cawley wrote: Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:16:06AM +, Piers Cawley wrote: How can I do this: my @list = qw/foo bar foo baz/; my %hash = map { $_ = 1 } @men; my @sort

Re: Books

2001-01-04 Thread Piers Cawley
David Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * at 04/01 13:26 + David Hodgkinson said: It took me three bookshops on Charing Cross Road to get a perl library together for the guys I'm working with, but I managed it without having to go

Re: Damian's Visit

2001-01-05 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As you'll have seen from his web site http://www.yetanother.org/damian/, Damian will be in London on 25th and 26th Feb. I've exchanged emails with him and here are a few more details. He flies in at 11:30am on Sunday 25th and is teaching all day Monday

Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread Piers Cawley
Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Jan 4, 10:18pm, Dave Cross wrote: As always I'm looking for volunteers to speak at the meeting. If you've got anything really cool[1] to tell us about then please let me know. Take your pick: [... Frosty Stuff ...] Ummm. the lot :-)

Re: Technical Meeting

2001-01-05 Thread Piers Cawley
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Piers Cawley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I want to see someone do a lightning talk on musical interpretations of common Compsci algorithms. i could clean up Devel::MIDI if you really waned Piers Err. That wasn't *quite* what I meant

Re: Perl commandments

2001-01-09 Thread Piers Cawley
David Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Was it here that we discussed the Perl commandments? You remember, things like "thou shalt use strict and -w" and so on... I don't think we were. But: Thou shalt not write the same thing twice. Thou shalt not use map in a void context. Thou shalt

Re: Perl commandments

2001-01-09 Thread Piers Cawley
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:25:18AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: 6.) regular expressions are not the only way to code, length and substr are in the language for a reason Also index. These two snippets are equivalent:

Re: Perl commandments

2001-01-09 Thread Piers Cawley
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Piers Cawley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:25:18AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: 6.) regular expressions are not the only way to code, length and substr

Re: Perl commandments

2001-01-09 Thread Piers Cawley
Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether: in my original rule it was all to do with good programming style, not eeking out every bit of performance, my reply was actually that i thought dave choose a very grey area in terms of

Re: Perl 6

2001-01-09 Thread Piers Cawley
Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Cantrell writes: From what I can tell, there ain't a lot happening. As Piers said, we are blocked on Larry. We're working on some interpreter design now, but some language issues really need to be nailed down before we know what we're

Re: Perl commandments

2001-01-10 Thread Piers Cawley
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: what are O(x(n)) and O(y(n)), i'm not familiar with the x and y notation Okay, I was making it up on the fly; - They're meant to be the functions you're implementing. Hence O(x(n)) is running time of x

Re: Perl commandments

2001-01-10 Thread Piers Cawley
David Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the best way to do this, if you see something is N^2 is to figure out how you could do it with a sort and hey presto it usually can be turned into NlogN+N .. NlogN This would involve beating

Re: Technical Meeting Agenda

2001-01-12 Thread Piers Cawley
dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Jo Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2001 12:18 Venue: State 51 (full details - and a map? - to follow) State51 is in a disused foam factory at 8-10 rhoda street, bethnal green,near the junction of brick lane and bethnal

Re: Feelers for London Open Source Convention

2001-01-17 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:58:25 +, Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 02:54:50PM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote: We're planning a London Open Source Convention. The dates we're looking hard at now are August 20-23. Are

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Piers Cawley
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:42:55PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: People (no particular order): = Pimp = = Accountant = = BOFH = = Security Guru =

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Piers Cawley
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:51:18PM +, Greg Cope wrote: What about a bed / kip room and of course a play room - and I do not mean some 70's swingers thing - a P2, etc ... Having something to crash on when pulling an all-nighter is, IMO, a

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greg Cope [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IMHO developers should be given the environment that is what makes them confotable, an IBM research center was on the telly the other day that had a big open plan style area, as well as individaul offices, as

Re: Consultancy company was [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered

2001-01-19 Thread Piers Cawley
Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hodgkinson sent the following bits through the ether: Sounds like a table at the New World one lunchtime... OK. We might as well do this quickly, how about Monday 12.30 at the New World restaurant in Chinatown. Everyone who is vaguely

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-21 Thread Piers Cawley
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, you wrote: I don't see why you can't have a mix - it would be good to have a core group of people who always (nearl) work in the office so that if you usually work from home but need some face 2 face there will be people

Re: Extreme Programming (was: Re: Consultancy company)

2001-01-21 Thread Piers Cawley
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 12:24:24AM +, Piers Cawley wrote: Now, I freely admit that I have partaken of the Extreme Programming Kool-Aid, and dammit I want to do it. I want to try it too. I'm not convinced by all of it - pair programming

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-21 Thread Piers Cawley
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, you wrote: One customer. On site. Full time. Absolute honesty. Get them on your side. The are the people who are *paying* for this, they deserve nothing but your honesty. Tell 'em about any problems and tell 'em early. Tell

Re: Extreme Programming (was: Re: Consultancy company)

2001-01-21 Thread Piers Cawley
"Dean S Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Original Message- From: Aaron Trevena [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did a little pair programming at emap - I probably wasn't doing it right tho'. even so we did get thru the hard bits quicker and could split up to do the easy stuff. I think it

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-22 Thread Piers Cawley
"James O'Sullivan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Michael Stevens wrote: On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 08:47:35AM +, Roger Burton West wrote: Contracts _should_ say that the client pays for changes to what he originally said he wanted. Sometimes they do. It's quite rare,

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-22 Thread Piers Cawley
Michael Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 10:26:18AM +, James O'Sullivan wrote: On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Michael Stevens wrote: On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 08:47:35AM +, Roger Burton West wrote: Contracts _should_ say that the client pays for changes to what he

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-22 Thread Piers Cawley
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, you wrote: Inded. Look at XP. The whole idea is that at the end of every day / week you have changed something and can show it to the client again. This way the client really understands what he really wants. wow ... "a

Re: Lunch

2001-01-22 Thread Piers Cawley
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 09:18:09AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: Any chance of someone posting a summary of the discussion? pdcawley: talk talk take charge talk bully us into having a clue Hmm... but I think we achieved rather more than that. And you

Re: Lunch

2001-01-22 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any chance of someone posting a summary of the discussion? "Three bowls of noodle soup, some of those crab things on a stick, one each of the ho fun..." Cheung fun. The ho fun were the white noodles in my

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-23 Thread Piers Cawley
Chris Heathcote [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 22/1/01 6:34 pm, Piers Cawley wrote: One of the things that I love about the iterative approach of XP is that during the process the client begins to learn exactly what she wants, and is taught to express that by the team. The idea

Re: Consultancy company

2001-01-23 Thread Piers Cawley
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, you wrote: Heh. But if we're good at our job we can pull them through that. uhh .. I have on occasion worked with clients that I reckon are the exception to that rule ... some of them find lightswitches a technically

Re: Last Night

2001-02-03 Thread Piers Cawley
Redvers Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It took me 3 hours to get home :-( It took me 2 hours (via Wong Kei, BBQ pork noodle soup, Hot Duck with plum sause). I'm more of a BBQ duck noodle soup and a plate of green vegetable in oyster sauce man myself. But Mmm... Wong Kei... -- Piers

Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship

2001-02-06 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 22:26 06/02/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: Oi! Davorg! stop posting to the wrong list and confusing everyone :) You're the third person to point this out to me - and it wasn't me who started it. The culprit has been identified and told off :) I'm

Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread Piers Cawley
Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 12/02/2001 at 19:59 +, David H. Adler wrote: On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 07:37:14PM +, Paul Mison wrote: On 12/02/2001 at 19:36 +, Greg McCarroll wrote: David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Well, now that you have something to

Re: NY invasion, was Re: Conway Hall

2001-02-12 Thread Piers Cawley
"Mike Jarvis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David H. Adler wrote: On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 04:32:08PM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote: When looking at cost, remember what hotel rates in NYC are like (almost as bad as London). You can easily pay US$250/night for a room that you would

Re: Testing .. but not as I know it

2001-02-14 Thread Piers Cawley
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, you wrote: to wit, testing of object based modules. Firstly what do people generally use for this? Test::Unit ?? or is there something more freindly out there? Test::Unit *almost* does the right thing, but looking

Re: No http://london.pm/ :-(

2001-02-24 Thread Piers Cawley
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:15:27AM +, Michael Stevens wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:06:07AM +, Paul Mison wrote: On 22/02/2001 at 16:24 +, Dave Cross wrote: IIRC we also investigated the possibility of registering pm.org.uk,

Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Piers Cawley
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 04:38:49AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: p.s. And don't get me started on my nightmare journey. I thought that all night buses went thru Trafalgar Sq - the N19 doesn't :( Ugh. At least I got on the right end of the train and

Re: lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread Piers Cawley
"Ian Brayshaw" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Given the following lvalue subroutine sub mysub : lvalue { $value; } is there any way for mysub() to be able to determine that it was called in an lvalue context? No. If you need to know that sort of thing, you

Re: geek football

2001-02-27 Thread Piers Cawley
Mike Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tuesday, February 27, 2001, 11:54:15 AM, Hamlet D'Arcy wrote: HDA As an American in the audience of Quantum::Superpositions last night I have HDA one question. HDA What in the world is a 'geek football pool'? Just be glad they didn't start

Re: lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread Piers Cawley
Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:50:26PM +1100, Ian Brayshaw wrote: Given the following lvalue subroutine sub mysub : lvalue { $value; } is there any way for mysub() to be able to determine that it was called in an lvalue

Re: lvalue subroutines

2001-02-27 Thread Piers Cawley
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 01:46:49PM +, Piers Cawley wrote: That's almost as good as ()^0.5. I was thinking about that on the way to work. AIUI, square roots apply to numbers, so how can you have a square root of something that isn't

Re: Do what I mean!

2001-02-27 Thread Piers Cawley
Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We can reason that there is a Perl Core that spans multiple dimensions so there must be a finite probability that there is one. Somewhere. Possibly in a galaxy, far far away. Actually some of the quantum

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-26

2001-03-02 Thread Piers Cawley
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Philip Newton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg McCarroll wrote: * Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This summary has been bought to you by the letters Alpha, Beta and Gamma, the numbers 1,3,5,7 all superimposed and the colour

Re: Damian's Diary

2001-03-13 Thread Piers Cawley
, perhaps, is The presence of Piers Cawley, Dave Cross, Greg McCarroll, Lon Brocard, and Tony Bowden also meant that at that one gathering I was able to spend time with the contributers of over half my YAS grant. It was very humbling to think that this community of clever

Re: Matt's Scripts

2001-03-14 Thread Piers Cawley
Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Finding out where perl is parody Stop, stop, this script archive is not ready yet! Where are the Hello world examples? Where are the detailed instructions? And why are you actually working on these scripts yet! /parody You're all getting

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-21 Thread Piers Cawley
"Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This site seems to confirm it tho: http://www.saqqara.demon.co.uk/datefmt.htm Hmmm, 11 reasons to use this format: 5 of these reasons are "Because it makes it easier for me to write software if you do" which don't carry much weight

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-22 Thread Piers Cawley
Andrew Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In Iceland they append 'son' for sons and 'dottir' for daughters - hence Magnus Magnusson is the son of Magnus, whilst Sally Magnusson would, in Iceland at least, be Sally Magnusdottir. I used to work with an Icelandic chap who told me that the Rekjavik

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-26 Thread Piers Cawley
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: y* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:41:33PM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Roger Burton West wrote: Just to let you all know I'm on the market again. Me too. er.. and me. Who was

Re: mmm ... toys ..

2001-03-27 Thread Piers Cawley
James Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 01:59:18AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: mmm .. by some dint of fate I appear to be the proud owner of a rather nice new Dell laptop. Bit slow ( 850mhz P3 ) and 128 mb of ram is hardly enough to run Vi in is it .. a

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Piers Cawley
"Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The recent .com crash has had many desirable effects as well as undesirable ones, and one of these is the devaluation in hype in .com related technologies. An awful lot of the value of the big packages is based on future value - "You don't need

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Piers Cawley
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:04:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: Hush now brother, contain thy enthusiasm, others are still not ready for the way of the heretic. We must consider them - they are the sheep that may prefer their 2 half pints of

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Piers Cawley
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, you wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:26:38PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: (my pseudo-transaction scheme for MySQL is basically : .. do this and return a closure to undo it if I to .. bung the closures in an array ..

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread Piers Cawley
Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:08:00PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: Can Perl do distributed database transactions? probably .. simple multi threaded app, fork a few child processes, establish the odd DBI

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread Piers Cawley
Greg Cope [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robin Szemeti wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, you wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:23:01PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: I concur. There is simply too much of the important stuff missing from Java to make it useable for web content delivery as

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread Piers Cawley
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Piers Cawley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hmm... Given that big business seems to have bought some of the ideas of 'Just In Time' stock holding and delivery type stuff, maybe the time has come to start pushing Perl and open source programming

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread Piers Cawley
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:47:03PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: I suggest (with Dave Cross' blessing),

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-29 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 21:24 28/03/2001, you wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:58:36PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest problems with Perl work in london, Are employers there too stupid to read CVs? Or too

Re: Perl Certification Drive

2001-03-29 Thread Piers Cawley
"Jonathan Peterson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the money aspect is very important. This isn't YAS, it's supposed to be a professional qualification for professional programmers. 300 sounds like a good number for me. "If it only costs a fiver then what good can it be" will be

Re: Buffy

2001-04-02 Thread Piers Cawley
Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robin Szemeti sent the following bits through the ether: was there not a recent thread regarding a module on CPAN and someone said somehting along the lines of ' we need review of modules before they get onto CPAN...' :) OKOK, and you'd have a

Mmm... Perl 5+i

2001-04-04 Thread Piers Cawley
I'm really liking Damian's work on this. Favourite so far: %new_hash = map {yield munge_key($_); munge_value($_)} %a_hash That's glorious that is... -- Piers

Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-07 Thread Piers Cawley
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 07:10:02PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 02:54:25PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: Grr. I don't *want* to turn into an elitist wanker I seem to solve this by being one all along... 'Elitist' implies to

Re: Mmm... Perl 5+i

2001-04-07 Thread Piers Cawley
Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley wrote: I'm really liking Damian's work on this. Favourite so far: %new_hash = map {yield munge_key($_); munge_value($_)} %a_hash ^ Looks like someone's been doing too much Ruby to me Yield

Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X

2001-04-07 Thread Piers Cawley
Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.msnbc.com/news/555930.asp Sadly, lacking on details. Paul, who still likes it. Certainly from the play I had with it at Neil's, it looks pretty good. Now, if I can just get someone to give me a G4 Titanium PowerBook I'll actually have

Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread Piers Cawley
jo walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us, but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to step forward. i recall promising to do 20 minutes on '101 fun things to do with Tangram', or something like

Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X

2001-04-10 Thread Piers Cawley
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Chris Devers wrote: At 08:22 AM 9.4.2001 +, Robin Szemeti wrote: personally the ultimate task of any minimise/restore function should be to get a window on or off the dispaly as fast as possible ... slowly attempting

Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-13 Thread Piers Cawley
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ooh .. that reminds me .. the Census man has just dropped a form in .. I didn't reallise it was this year .. excellent .. now dont forget .. your religion is 'Jedi' ok ? putting jedi is a bad idea its you letting the shoreditch lot win Viral

Re: Komodo

2001-04-19 Thread Piers Cawley
Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 18/04/2001 at 16:36 +0100, Dean wrote: Does OS X come with GNU tools like GCC and make then? Yes, but they're not installed by default. (I can't remember if the 'BSD subsystem' is installed by default either though.) It comes on a seperate CD within

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-19 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remember the Liz Castro BBS that I was talking about a few weeks ago. Simon mentioned that a couple of the natives were getting restless and seemed uncomfortable with me being there. Well, one of them has finally snapped and is currently having a real

Re: Komodo

2001-04-19 Thread Piers Cawley
David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:56:51AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You also get ProjectBuilder IDE. http://developer.apple.com/tools/projectbuilder/ Which is very nice. Or at least it was, back when

Re: Komodo

2001-04-19 Thread Piers Cawley
Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:02:03AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Then you're missing half the fun. Seriously. M-x compile was the reason I started using emacs in the first place. And I \N{WHITE HEART SUIT} M-x gdb Oh, yes, baby. And M-x ediff

Re: The Natives are Revolting

2001-04-19 Thread Piers Cawley
dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:34 AM Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remember the Liz Castro BBS that I was talking about a few weeks ago. Simon mentioned that a couple of the natives were

Re: (Don't Laugh) Buying PGP

2001-04-19 Thread Piers Cawley
dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PGP isn't free for commerical use. You're supposed to buy a license. When our purchasing department here approached NAI to buy one, they were told the the Unix (server) version was 27,000 and the Windows version was 657. Stick it on a Win2K

Re: BBC was Re: Beginners Guide

2001-04-19 Thread Piers Cawley
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it likely that the licence fee will go. It would be a popular move with the Great Unwashed. ( who seem happy to spend 400 quid a year on a Sky subscription ), so I can see the BBC being released from its licence fee. This would have huge

Re: Apocalypse Two

2001-05-04 Thread Piers Cawley
to concatenate?/ :) Don't miss the smiley, I don't actually care. I'm really looking forward to apoc9, multi-dimensional slices makes my brain water. Properties are already looking pretty scary. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: More revolting natives

2001-05-04 Thread Piers Cawley
come from Scotland. And you speak English so well!). ;-) My wife's aunt married a GI. When she was introduced to some of his relative she was complimented on how good her English was. Yes, I learnt it on the boat coming over. And they believed her. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: Native Code Experts

2001-05-04 Thread Piers Cawley
so much since Date::MMDDYY... -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: sing if you're happy that way

2001-05-08 Thread Piers Cawley
Matthew Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wisty - next T-shirt please: use strict is gay Hey, that's perl6 compliant. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: Buffy musings ...

2001-05-08 Thread Piers Cawley
their agents now. For the London.pm bof I take it? -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: Buffy musings ...

2001-05-09 Thread Piers Cawley
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Piers Cawley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And while we are on the old films chestnut, my current recommendation is 'O Brother, where art thou?', excellent film. Oh yes. Truly fantastic. Must buy

Re: O Brother (was Re: Buffy musings ...)

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley
Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley writes: I'm trying to work out if I was bowled over by 'Go to sleep pretty baby' because of the song or the visuals... Ob Porn: You can see a nipple and curve of a breast through a wet shirt if you look in the right place

Re: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...)

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley
prefer the gentler, old timey stuff. I'd rather hear a banjo played clawhammer style than plucked any day of the week. Sara Gray is about the best player in this style I've heard over here... -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: Traditional music (was Re: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...))

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley
. I'm looking forward to the release of that. DA Pennebaker. On the subject of music (despite the Subject: of movies) ... anyone here into trad. Irish instrumental music? I prefer trad English. And I really prefer trad. English vocal, preferably without instruments... -- Piers Cawley

Re: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...)

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley
* irish... So you don't like English traditional music then. Shame. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: Dim Sum?

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley
it's like. And the women they provided (hmm, think I'm going too far ?) Yup. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: Irish music (was RE: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...))

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley
. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: Irish music (was RE: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...))

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley
://www.riceholm.demon.co.uk/ We decided not to go. Worked on the website instead. What fun. Not. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley
Space meets Blade Runner meets Austin Powers? meets Buckaroo Banzai. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: see attachment

2001-05-12 Thread Piers Cawley
three pages, up to the line about pizza, cut slightly and narrated in a deadpan style against some suitably badass footage would make an absolutely superb start to a movie. They make a pretty spiffing start to a book too. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-14 Thread Piers Cawley
vote on the affairs of England and Westminster but not vice versa I thought the Scots Nats were vaguely good about not voting on stuff that didn't affect Scotland. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-14 Thread Piers Cawley
Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:37:23AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: Here's a pretty fundamental issue. Why do so many people seem to think that low taxes are good? Rule one, man, rule one. What? Always be wary of smiling old men? -- Piers

Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Piers Cawley
of generic vocational training... And while I'm about it, can I please kill anyone who complains that our universities are 'too elitist?'. Excuse me? I thought that was the whole point. Ahem. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Piers Cawley
how, pray, do I opt out of the international oil companies' cartel? use the tube and electric trains? Most power stations aren't oil fired AFAIK. No, they're gas fired. And who owns the gas rigs? -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Piers Cawley
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:10:56PM -0400, Piers Cawley wrote: And while I'm about it, can I please kill anyone who complains that our universities are 'too elitist?'. Excuse me? I thought that was the whole point. Oh, that's easy. - Being

Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Piers Cawley
that more than half of schools get above average results. Depends on which average. It's *possible* for more than half the schools to get results above the mean. But it does mean you need some really AWFUL schools to pull the average down... -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Piers Cawley
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 14 May 2001, you wrote: But it does mean you need some really AWFUL schools to pull the average down... AIUI suitable arrangments have been put in place to enable this to happen. I intended to leave that implicit. -- Piers Cawley

Re: [gnat@frii.com: Damian Conway's Exegesis 2]

2001-05-17 Thread Piers Cawley
thinking Why isn't this as good as Interface Builder is on NeXTSTEP? Actually, I find myself thinking that when I use almost any IDE... -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com

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