* at 04/01 13:26 + David Hodgkinson said:
It took me three bookshops on Charing Cross Road to get a perl library
together for the guys I'm working with, but I managed it without
having to go into Foyle's. Yeah!
er, what's wrong with foyles if it's not a silly question?
s
--
Struan
* at 19/01 16:12 + Redvers Davies said:
All I'll say about mandrake is that we have a mandrake box at work and
when you run printtool the cdrom ejects.
You couldn't do an strace on that so we see what causes that could you?
I would have thought a hardware conflict would be the most
* at 19/01 16:33 - Robert Shiels said:
What are you planning to do on the box?
It'll be purely for home use, so:
* Hacking perl
* Prototyping web sites
* Playing with new toys like AxKit and Camelot
* Write
* Surf the web
* Read mail
* Play the occasional game
*
* at 22/01 16:22 + Simon Wistow said:
Andy Wardley wrote:
So without wishing to start another holy war, is it possible to change
the mailing list configuration to have a more sensible default Reply-to?
rant
I have arguments with Leon about this. He usually quotes 'Reply To
munging
* at 22/01 16:33 + Greg McCarroll said:
* Struan Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
actually mutt has cool mailing list functions in that you can define a
mailing list in the config and then l (or L, i forget) replies to the
list rather than the person.
not that i want
* at 25/01 10:37 + Michael Stevens said:
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:02:25PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dreamweaver (I know, don't ask) nicely escapes the spaces to %20 but when
I try and download these, the %20 appears in the Netscape file save as box
instead of
* at 29/01 11:29 - Robert Shiels said:
Staying resolutely on-topic [1], I've started watching my "League of
Gentlemen" first series DVD.
This is a very good DVD indeed, with an second audio track by the cast
talking about why they did everything.
The DVD starts with a question "Are
* at 29/01 15:17 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
So TT nicely allows a filename, a filehandle or blank for STDOUT.
So how to I capture the output to "some variable" so I could, say,
manipulate that output
without having to read the file I've outputted?
Is that possible?
mmm, this
* at 31/01 14:28 + Dominic Mitchell said:
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:24:20AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
Here's an interesting page[1]
Have a URL for that, guv?
er... this unweldy thing would seem to be it:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/4045/107-2581489-8245353
struan
* at 01/02 12:35 - Robert Shiels said:
I don't really like this, is there another way? I don't want to have to
resort to .htpasswd files, which is what I've implemented for now.
er, what's wrong with them?
struan
* at 01/02 08:35 -0500 Dave Cross said:
Data Munging with Perl
by David Cross
Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760
Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!
a day in the life of a famous perl author:
goto: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1930110006/
while (1){
look at
* at 02/02 12:29 + Jonathan Stowe said:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
Any questions?
Yeah, can I have a pony ?
what is it with ponys?
struan
* at 02/02 12:25 - Jonathan Peterson said:
However, I don't question the plumber's competence, or
indeed pretend to
anyone including myself that I can do a good job of it.
The same should
apply to programming. If I were to try my hand at
re-plumbing my kitchen,
I know I'd
* at 08/02 13:00 -0500 Andy Williams said:
I'm installing TT2.
The problem. the installation says that I need XML::DOM ver 1.27
installed
I've hunted high and low but all I can find is version 1.25!
Anyone know where I can get it?
libxml-enno is what you want.
struan
* at 13/02 17:07 + Jonathan Stowe said:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Struan Donald wrote:
*and* they have blue LEDs :)
Well that doubles the price for starters :)
ah, but everyone loves blue LEDs
struan
* at 19/02 13:34 + Steve Mynott said:
Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Surely part of the reason that so much bad code gains so much popularity
is that bad coders tend to think their code is good, so don't mind
publicising it and shouting about it lots. Good coders, on the other
* at 21/02 12:49 + Michael Stevens said:
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 12:43:34PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
On 21/02/2001 at 12:26 +, Michael Stevens wrote:
ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
and they were disposable. This sort of meme just does the rounds too
rapidly. I mean, how much
* at 27/02 12:33 + Roger Burton West said:
On or about Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 12:29:19PM +, Amias Channer typed:
Each company would have a team (or combine to make teams) and play 40 over
matches on sunday afternoons in some sort of league .
Does this appeal to anyone ? gambling is
* at 28/02 15:09 - Hamlet D'Arcy said:
Could you post a bit more about the Heretic's meeting?
Perhaps some links.
I've never heard of the group.
if only we had a faq :)
struan
* at 23/02 06:57 -0500 Dave Cross said:
At Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:40:19 +, Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Q. When are social meetings?
A. On the day after the first wednesday of the month.
Please stop confusing the newcomers.
London.pm social meetings are _always_ on the
* at 28/02 17:37 + Michael Stevens said:
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 05:33:34PM +, Matthew Robinson wrote:
OK, its 'meetings are held on the day after the first wednesday of the month'.
That makes perfect sense now,
I work on the "meetings are held whenever more than half the people
* at 13/03 10:43 - Jonathan Peterson said:
There's a marketing battle that needs to be fought first. We
need, somehow,
to ensure that newbie CGI programmers read criticisms of
Matt's scripts
_before_ they find Matt's Script Archive. And I don't know
how you're going
to undo
* at 13/03 10:56 + Michael Stevens said:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 10:58:36AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
how to solve this, will there is an easy way that would deal with
the problem at source - perl certification
*duck*
having said in another email how there were no
* at 14/03 15:22 + Michael Stevens said:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 04:10:02PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
WebDAV is not OK, cos it means installing yet more stuff on the server
which is simply not needed. If a user can't use scp, then I don't want
that user. I mean, it's not hard FFS.
* at 14/03 10:37 -0500 Dave Cross said:
... and how much trouble you can get in for not knowing the difference:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/03/13/208259
the best thing about this is the number of links to this story that
give the impression the kids were arrested for not knowing
* at 02/04 16:26 +0100 David Cantrell said:
I was bored today, so I wrote an ickle module which takes code like
this:
we're less than half way through damian's year and already this sort
of thing is becoming very common. i'm beginning to think that YAS didn't
think the idea through carefully
* at 03/04 13:55 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:
* Robin Houston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:54PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane
cannisters as a child?
We *all* used to do *that* :-)
snip
* at 03/04 14:17 +0100 dcross - David Cross said:
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 April 2001 13:56
So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive?
Where do I start?
* L Ron Hubbard is on record as saying the best way to make money is to
start a
* at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said:
From: Simon Wistow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
^^^
Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and
* at 03/04 17:21 +0100 Matthew Byng-Maddick said:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote:
* at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said:
Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM.
well, that unstructured data is difficult tp parse :)
Is dave cross written in Perl?
well no[1
* at 04/04 15:58 +0100 Robin Houston said:
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:09:02PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
[...] the HTML hanger on serves no purpose except to consume
my disk space at 4 times the rate.
You mean you *archive* this bollocks?
doesn't eveyone archive all their mail? *some*
* at 05/04 21:37 + Robin Szemeti said:
On Thu, 05 Apr 2001, you wrote:
* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
* Dean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Will the Perl Cert discussion/brainstorming be taking part at todays meet
or the technical one?
todays
having said that i
* at 06/04 11:34 +0100 Natalie Ford said:
At 22:42 04/04/01, David Cantrell wrote:
PC-Pine is suitable only for small children recovering from major surgery.
...and maybe people who prefer a GUI? :)
isn't that what he said? :)
struan
* at 09/04 16:09 +0100 dcross - David Cross said:
snip/
p.s Next social meeting is on Thur 3rd May. Suggestions for venues would be
most welcome.
nowhere we might be tempted to sit by the thames till the wee small
hours generating tremendous hangovers :)
struan
* at 10/04 09:15 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:
* Marcel Grunauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:56:28PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote:
nowhere we might be tempted to sit by the thames till the wee small
hours generating tremendous hangovers :)
"sit"?
* at 11/04 08:28 +0100 Mark Fowler said:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:
snip
I'll also be able to give a quick status update on the website for NMS
(probably at the same time as I'll be using it as my example)
what is the status of the NMS thing. i'm liable to have some
* at 11/04 17:50 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 05:10:12PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
Paul Mison sent the following bits through the ether:
If you're going to do IRC style karma-ing, at least make sure there's a
bot
* at 17/04 14:09 +0100 Mark Fowler said:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote:
surely there should be a better way than this? after all the
combinations involved are quite numerous. is the notion of something
that does :
#!/bin/sh
if [ -e /usr/bin/perl ]; then
exec
no idea if anyone will find this useful but:
if you use mozilla (on linux/*nix at least) stick this:
search
name="CPAN"
description="CPAN Search"
method="GET"
action="http://search.cpan.org/search"
input name="mode" value="module"
input name="query" user
/search
in a file called
* at 18/04 11:58 +0100 Robin Szemeti said:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, you wrote:
IMHO the Linux port is an afterthought, most of the effort seems to have
been focused on the Windows side, the integration with Visual Studio
springs to mind.
umm ... since Linux accounts (at a guess) for 75%
* at 18/04 17:47 +0100 Dominic Mitchell said:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:43:20PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
Alexis Denisof (who plays Wesley) is going out with Alyson Hannigan
(Willow).
For some reason, this is made even worse by the automatic word
association of "Wesley" and
Noticed on my way past the news stands last night that the next tube
strike is pencilled in for May the 3rd, as is the next social
meeting. OK, so the strike might not happen but if it does is this
not going to make the next social meeting a bit problematic?
just a thought.
Struan
* at 19/04 15:04 +0100 dcross - David Cross said:
From: Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:48 PM
Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Noticed on my way past the news stands last night that the next tube
strike is pencilled in for May the 3rd
* at 21/04 10:14 +0100 Robin Szemeti said:
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
I read it as not wanting to fund the various commercial entities one
ends up funding in order to actual get a digital box. The idea of
putting any more money in the Murdoch empires coffers just for the
sake of
* at 25/04 09:02 +0100 Robert Shiels said:
I've decided to set up my own company and become a contractor. There are
quite a lot of decisions to be made, but the hardest one I'm finding is
thinking of a company name! So far my only ideas are simply Shiels or
Shiels Consulting; this is fairly
* at 25/04 13:15 +0100 Jonathan Stowe said:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Robert Shiels wrote:
I've decided to set up my own company and become a contractor. There are
quite a lot of decisions to be made, but the hardest one I'm finding is
thinking of a company name!
Get the domain off Paul
* at 02/05 16:51 +0100 Leon Brocard said:
jo walsh sent the following bits through the ether:
well, it looks like the tube strike (8pm Weds 2nd May - 8pm Thurs 3rd May)
is still on, and this will scupper our May social meeting plans rather.
It's not anymore, but we shouldn't shift the
* at 03/05 10:28 +0100 Mark Fowler said:
On Wed, 2 May 2001, Struan Donald wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1307000/1307103.stm
for those who don't get a kick out of seeing server errors :)
Which we all know you don't ever get on news.bbc.co.ukeven when a page
* at 03/05 12:42 +0100 Simon Wistow said:
Chris Heathcote wrote:
Off the top of my head:
ICA bar, Match (Noho/Farringdon/Sosho), lab (on Old Compton St.), aka...
also heard about Smiths of Smithfield, but never been there.
For true geekdom go get cocktails go to Cynthia's Cyberbar
* at 04/05 10:22 +0100 Dave Hodgkinson said:
Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i kind of like - from a visual point of view.
much more like APL... ;-)
i'd not know about that. seem to recall seeing an example of APL in a
book once and it looked very scary. or it might have been ADA
* at 08/05 13:04 +0100 Matthew Jones said:
Wisty - next T-shirt please:
use strict
is gay
Heh. On the back -w is jolly?
surely the back should be:
CHOPS
struan
* at 08/05 15:18 +0100 Andrew Bowman said:
Excuse me for my ignorance of this matter, however I can't figure out what
'CHOPS' means in this context (and am sure I'm not alone among London PMers,
at least not on this question).
According to acronymfinder.com it's Controlled Humidity
* at 10/05 10:22 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
is a venue decided on for tonights meeting, or is it still TBA?
shuffles through mailbox for weekly summary
Don't forget the London.pm website for meetings etc. The next meeting
is a social meeting and has been postponed for a week to the Thursday
kind of off topic but how do you get things like ^M and such like into
a file for, say, writing vi macros?
i've had a look through some docs but i'm beggining to suspect it's
one of those bit of unix aracana know to a chosen few. or is there
some site/resource that contains this info?
ta
* at 10/05 16:37 +0100 Dominic Mitchell said:
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 04:35:29PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote:
kind of off topic but how do you get things like ^M and such like into
a file for, say, writing vi macros?
i've had a look through some docs but i'm beggining to suspect it's
* at 11/05 11:32 +0100 Roger Burton West said:
On or about Fri, May 11, 2001 at 10:48:41AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson typed:
You know, from the outside, Unix looks so well designed and clean and modern...
From the outside, Windows looks as if it works.
ObRant: computers and OSes in their
* at 11/05 11:49 +0100 Dave Hodgkinson said:
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Putting pretty interfaces on existing unstable systems does not
help to make them simpler...
That's part of it. Landing a thudding great book of what the thing
_can_ do, rather than a cookbook of
* at 11/05 12:07 +0100 Dave Hodgkinson said:
Struan Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is a very real argument for devices that do one thing and one
thing only but do it in a very simple way without all the flimflam
that accompanies most modern computers. Donald Norman has quite
* at 13/05 16:41 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
At 15:27 13/05/2001, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 03:30:31AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/18866.html
Absurd, laughable and bizarre. What *is*
* at 14/05 12:13 +0100 duncan said:
The money has to be raised somehow.
selling 3rd generation mobile phone licences for extortionate figures,
thereby taxing the population once again?
wasn't it an auction? i like to look on this as some sort of crack
induced madness on the side of tha
* at 14/05 12:16 +0100 Matthew Jones said:
Ah, yes. That's like we're listening, isn't it, in response to the
fuel crisis? We're not going to do anything, but we're happy
to listen.
That narked me about the fuel protestors. They claimed the government
aren't listening. Listen ne cave
* at 16/05 15:22 +0100 Simon Cozens said:
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:41:58PM +0100, James Powell wrote:
You've hit the fundamental problem with XP. Getting anything done
requires two programmers to agree on something; this, as everyone
knows, is impossible.
No it isn't!
That's
* at 18/05 14:51 +0100 Cross David - dcross said:
From: Robin Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:34 PM
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 06:05:44AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
Im nogat samting til ridim insait long pastaim Klingon!
Damian (longlong tisa Perlpela)
* at 18/05 12:54 -0400 David H. Adler said:
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 08:20:47AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
I finally received my copy of TPJ in the mail yesterday. And there was much
rejoicing :)
If it makes anyone feel better, I just heard from Mr. Orwant that *his*
copy hasn't arrived
* at 24/05 23:18 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:
p.s. at the risk of raising the heckles of BlackStar, does anyone
know the URL of the company based in the channel islands (or isle
of mann) that sell american dvds to the UK at the time they
are released in the US? 247 or something?
* at 08/06 11:35 +0100 Robin Szemeti said:
On Fri, 08 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
calling wordpad an editor is as laughable as calling vi an editor ;-)
arrghh .. burn the heretic! ... speak brother, for the truth will out ..
have you been using [x{0,1]]emacs again ... ?
and thus
* at 08/06 11:54 +0100 Robin Szemeti said:
pah! .. tis written in the scripture ... 'let he who hath one eye be
blessed' .. clearly the 'one eye' is a reference to the one 'i' in vi ..
its *obvious* innit ... I shall found my entire religion on this shadowy
fact wriiten by our lord himself
* at 11/06 21:38 +0100 Robin Szemeti said:
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Chris Benson wrote:
Didn't ukonline.co.uk complain about trademark infringement a while back?
Is gateway.gov.uk the result? and is there any possible trademark confusion
with this address?
ring ring
'hello .. is
* at 14/06 14:55 +0100 Leo Lapworth said:
Well, as has been muttered about I am redoing the London.pm.org website.
And yes it DOES need a faq, I have the start of one, but would very much
love someone else to finish it off.
So, If anyone is up for it give me a yell and I'll email you the
* at 15/06 14:41 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:
Ok, ignore this request now. Also thanks to Simon Wilcox. for helping me out
here.
I also believe others are flying on this flight, so it looks like we have
the official flight for London.pm ;-) and thanks to Jouke we can claim
to have an
* at 18/06 17:21 +0100 Roger Burton West said:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 04:36:00PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
The main reason I prefer H::T to T::T is that H::T templates can be
given to Dreamweaver monkeys to edit without my having to worry that
they'll screw them up.
That is an
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