Re: Freebies

2001-03-13 Thread Dave Cross

At 12:15 13/03/2001, you wrote:

Dave Cross, Lord and Master of London.pm, thus wrote:

 Postman just bought a review copy of Lincoln Stein's "Network Programming
 with Perl". This is good news as it seems that Addison Wesley have now seen
 that giving freebie copies to Perl Monger groups is a Good Thing.
 
 I'll be giving it away at the next meeting, which is on Thursday 5th April.
 IIRC we'd volunteered mstevens to try and book us the downstairs bar in the
 Cittie of Yorke.

... which I hope to be able to attend. A weekend in London seems like
a good idea, to make up the mind whether to break the promise to settle
in Vienna for good.

We look forward to seeing you.

By the way, Dave, did Addison Wesley contact you about this or vice
versa? I'm wondering if O'Reilly and others are sending books to Perl
monger groups anyway and they just vanish unmentioned with the maintainer
of Vienna.pm...

I got an email via the Perl Monger Group Leaders mailing list.

Dave...



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Re: Freebies

2001-03-13 Thread Dave Cross

At 11:28 13/03/2001, you wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 11:27:08AM +, Dave Cross wrote:
  At 12:15 13/03/2001, you wrote:
 
  By the way, Dave, did Addison Wesley contact you about this or vice
  versa? I'm wondering if O'Reilly and others are sending books to Perl
  monger groups anyway and they just vanish unmentioned with the maintainer
  of Vienna.pm...
 
  I got an email via the Perl Monger Group Leaders mailing list.

Odd.  I didn't get anything from them.  sulk

Yep. I just checked and that's definitely where it came from. I've 
forwarded you a copy.

Dave...



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Re: Freebies

2001-03-13 Thread Dave Cross

At 12:15 13/03/2001, you wrote:
On Tue 13 Mar, Dave Cross wrote:
 
  Postman just bought a review copy of Lincoln Stein's "Network Programming
  with Perl". This is good news as it seems that Addison Wesley have now 
 seen
  that giving freebie copies to Perl Monger groups is a Good Thing.

Since you only get one copy of each of these books, would it be a good idea
to do what the publishers presumably want you to do, ie review them on the
list ... ?

Not a bad idea. Unfortunately, it's currently hovering at about item number 
300 on my "Things to do (urgent)" list :(

Wiley might even be foolish enough to send you a copy of *that* book to
review ...

Not clear which particular book you mean.

Dave...



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Re: Freebies

2001-03-13 Thread Roger Horne

On Tue 13 Mar, Dave Cross wrote:
 
 Not clear which particular book you mean.

The Cgi/Perl Cookbook by Craig Pratchett and Matthew Wright. John Wiley 
Son. One of the current "reviews" on Amazon.com says:

This is obviously a book that a lot of time and care went into, on the part
of both authors. The CGI/Perl Cookbook has all of the best "goodies" from
the excellent Matt's Script Archive website on its CD-ROM, and a chapter on
each of the scripts carefully walks you through every line, explaining (in
refreshingly non-technogeek language!) the programming theory behind each
element and how the total script works. I found this very useful when I
began writing my own Perl scripts.

Matt's easy-to-modify CGI scripts are also great for people who don't care
*why* it works, they just want it to work. With the excellent documentation
Craig and Matt supply, these are as close to foolproof as CGI scripting
("Aaagh! 500 Server Error!!") gets, and all 20 scripts covered in the book
are the basic, useful kind that anyone handling websites will want to use
sooner or later (guestbook, form mail, feedback, and a really well-designed
web store.)

Excellent value; this is the kind of book you'll keep and use for years,
whether it's your stepping-stone to writing your own scripts or whether you
never want to get more in-depth than just typing in the path to your Perl
executable.

Was this review helpful to you?

13 out of 14 people replied "yes".


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Re: Freebies

2001-03-13 Thread Dave Cross

At 13:02 13/03/2001, you wrote:
On Tue 13 Mar, Dave Cross wrote:

  Not clear which particular book you mean.

The Cgi/Perl Cookbook by Craig Pratchett and Matthew Wright. John Wiley 
Son. One of the current "reviews" on Amazon.com says:

This is obviously a book that a lot of time and care went into, on the part
of both authors. The CGI/Perl Cookbook has all of the best "goodies" from
the excellent Matt's Script Archive website on its CD-ROM, and a chapter on
each of the scripts carefully walks you through every line, explaining (in
refreshingly non-technogeek language!) the programming theory behind each
element and how the total script works. I found this very useful when I
began writing my own Perl scripts.

Matt's easy-to-modify CGI scripts are also great for people who don't care
*why* it works, they just want it to work. With the excellent documentation
Craig and Matt supply, these are as close to foolproof as CGI scripting
("Aaagh! 500 Server Error!!") gets, and all 20 scripts covered in the book
are the basic, useful kind that anyone handling websites will want to use
sooner or later (guestbook, form mail, feedback, and a really well-designed
web store.)

Excellent value; this is the kind of book you'll keep and use for years,
whether it's your stepping-stone to writing your own scripts or whether you
never want to get more in-depth than just typing in the path to your Perl
executable.

Was this review helpful to you?

13 out of 14 people replied "yes".

This gives an idea of the kind of audience you're aiming at with any 
pudative "Anti-Matt" project.

Dave...



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Re: Freebies

2001-03-13 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 *why* it works, they just want it to work.
 
   With the excellent documentation
 
 whether it's your stepping-stone to writing your own scripts or whether you
 
 never want to get more in-depth than just typing in the path to your Perl
 executable.
 
 13 out of 14 people replied "yes".
 
 This gives an idea of the kind of audience you're aiming at with any 
 pudative "Anti-Matt" project.

ok, they are not like us, but they are not wrong either, they just
want something that works and is well documented. how you appeal
to them is not the cleverness of the code, but with all of the
attributes that ``commercial'' software competes on. 

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