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David Cantrell wrote: DJGPP is a DOS port of the gnu stuff. It's still good enough to build Perl from source. I speak from experience :-). (Though I believe sockets don't work on djgpp-built Perl :-(.) Cheers, Philip
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my vote the one, the only ... Charlie's Angels That was a fun film and entertaining but I need more that kung fu and breasts to make a good 90 mins... Why would anyopne need more than kung fu to enjoy a fillum? "Crouching Tiger - Hidden Dragon" is best film of 2000 for my money. Breasts are an optional bonus. Am I going to get slapped down for saying that? Other thread. ActiveState Perl. I have that on my smoke-spouting station wagon, but I tend to do most of my actual monkeying using the slightly gimpy version on my sedan. The perennial problem of wanky memory management is a huge pain with MacPerl, however. I get to use a proper sparcstation at werg, though. -- sun-earther matthew boogieboy jones of HUDDERSFIELD
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On 05/01/2001 at 09:34 +, Matthew Jones wrote: Why would anyopne need more than kung fu to enjoy a fillum? I dunno. Plot? shrug/ "Crouching Tiger - Hidden Dragon" is best film of 2000 for my money. Breasts are an optional bonus. Am I going to get slapped down for saying that? Hey, it's that fun American release/UK release argument again (since CTHD isn't out here until... well, actually it's today. The Guardian like it too, fwiw. No-one mentioned Titus (they dropped the Andronicus bit for some reason for the film version). I liked it. I thought they'd added the grim bits and was a bit shocked to find that they were all Will's fault. Wins the Romeo And Juliet Production Design award too. -- :: paul :: and if you refuse to believe :: you will be cast into the void
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Matthew Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my vote the one, the only ... Charlie's Angels That was a fun film and entertaining but I need more that kung fu and breasts to make a good 90 mins... Why would anyopne need more than kung fu to enjoy a fillum? "Crouching Tiger - Hidden Dragon" is best film of 2000 for my money. Breasts are an optional bonus. Am I going to get slapped down for saying that? Yes. They're not optional. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire -
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Why would anyopne need more than kung fu to enjoy a fillum? I dunno. Plot? shrug/ Here's my idea of a good plot: Wang Hoo: "Eight Castle-Smasher Fists! Feet on Seven Stars!" (sticks rigidly to form) Tsing Wa: "Left Hand Buddha Palm! Right Hand Buddha Fist!" (also sticks rigidly to form) A fight ensues. Wang Hoo: "Drunken Buddha Style!" Tsing Wa: "Watch out for my hidden attack!" (eh? -ed) "Crouching Tiger - Hidden Dragon" is best film of 2000 for my money. Hey, it's that fun American release/UK release argument again (since CTHD isn't out here until... well, actually it's today. The Guardian like it too, fwiw. Never mind what country it was released in and when. If you saw it in 2000, they you're entitled to include it in your personal best of the year, I reckon. -- sun-earther matthew boogieboy jones of HUDDERSFIELD -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- GAT/IT/L d--@ s+: a- C++ UL P++ L+++ E- W+++$ N !o K- w !O M+++ V- PS+++ PE-- Y+ PGP-+ t@ 5+(++) !X R tv- b+++ DI++ D++ G e++ h(+) r y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
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Greg McCarroll wrote: next youll be saying top gun is considered bad I do hope you're not being sarcastic. or are being sarcastic. Or ... errm, whatever. Top Gun is a top film (no pun intended) and Quentin Tarantino is a jumped up little pissant wannabe with 'I wanna be a cool gang-sta but I'm actually a white geek with bad hair who can't act' issues. And all the quotes from his monologue[0] which claim that TG is actually one huge homoerotic fantasy are wrong which just goes to show how bullshit it all is. Simon [just call me Mav 'cos my parents didn't/don't like me either] [0] From the film 'Sleep with Me' where QT plays Sid http://www.godamongdirectors.com/scripts/sleep.shtml for a transcript. For example 'They're all hugging and kissing and happy with each other, and Ice comes up to Maverick, and he says, "Man, you can ride my tail, anytime!" And what does Maverick say? "You can ride mine!"' They *never* say that. As any phul3 kn0 they say 'You can be my _wingman_ anytime' Sigh.
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On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Simon Wistow wrote: Simon [who *lives* fro the 12 minute freebie of the Adult Channel at midnight] Ah - Myself and a housemate once lived the 'free porn' episode of friends - when we flicked thru he chennels and there was porn at 1am, I think we got bored about 1:30am and from there flicked channels until we got sucked into a painfully bad movie (apalling script, apalling dialogue) it was truly awful (imagine red shoe diaries but much longer and without the production script or acting quality)... we a re both suckers for a bad film we keep on telling ourselves it could be realy good any minute now that really banal script will turn into a beautifully crafted dialogue of wildesque prose but usually we are bitterly disapointed. Beast of war was a pleasent surprise though. A. obPMRef: buffy -- A HREF = "http://termisoc.org/~betty" Betty @ termisoc.org /A "As a youngster Fred fought sea battles on the village pond using a complex system of signals he devised that was later adopted by the Royal Navy. " (this email has nothing to do with any organisation except me)
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On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 10:38:14AM +, Simon Wistow wrote: Peter Corlett wrote: I didn't mean /that/ kind of "special" film... Just certain feel-good and insightful films. Are you saying that Hard Core porn isn't feel good and insightful? Feel's good for me Well, it can give instant gratification, I guess, which can feel good, but tends to leave one hollow later. Then again, I'm not a sex fiend like most people I seem to meet. For example, I have only just got round to checking out one of the DVDs I brought back from Amsterdam a couple of months ago because bringing pr0n back is one of those things one is apparently supposed to do... [It's probably worth noting that the films are BBFC classified and also available from Blackstar at £25 each, except that they were NLG 150 the pair.] [who *lives* fro the 12 minute freebie of the Adult Channel at midnight] When I was in student digs, I had a satellite dish pointed at Hot Bird and a "special" card for Eurotica, so I had five hours of pr0n every evening. It didn't do a thing for me, but the recordings paid my rent for six months ;)
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* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: check beano's in croydon, they can be quite good - also skoob do some rare tapes (in sicillian ave, next to pc bookshop) Wow, Beano's still there ? Its been there since I was a kid. good place as well, one of the many delights of Croydon Did you know Terry and June was set in Croydon? see you don't have to go to the comedy store for good comedy! nope croydon does just as well - also i think davidson sometimes does his panto at the fairfield i'd need to check, does anyone know? anyone? anyone? dean? ;-) [1] Greg [1] sorry dean, i couldnt resist -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
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* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg McCarroll wrote: next youll be saying top gun is considered bad Top Gun is a top film (no pun intended) and Quentin Tarantino is a jumped up little pissant wannabe with 'I wanna be a cool gang-sta but I'm actually a white geek with bad hair who can't act' issues. i agree, its a class film, and i wasnt being sarcastic in any way at all i was watching it with a dutch friend recently (4am) and we were really really drunk, i mean like a whole different league on from the worst london.pm meeting - do you remember the guys Gellyfish got slaughtered at YAPC::Europe? well they looked sober to us, anyway the point is i seem to remember calling his ex-girlfriend on his nokia communicator in loud speaker mode and singing the song down it as loudly as possible then doing the same 10 minutes later after he had tried to teach me the words in dutch then at the power guitar bit at the end singing that down the phone it was about then his flatmate came through to complaign And all the quotes from his monologue[0] which claim that TG is actually one huge homoerotic fantasy are wrong which just goes to show how bullshit it all is. unlike ``Top C*ck'' the 1992 american soft pr0n film, where young men from around the world come together to compete at the Top Stud academy training to be the finest studs in the world. Just before the completion of their training my the hot blonde bombshell Nelly McMuffins they are alerted of an arab warlords harem is on the radar and are flew out to use their new knowledge. - err actually i just made this up - err, making that sort of thing up is probably worse that watching it i'll get my coat ... -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
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On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 12:53:32PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: unlike ``Top C*ck'' the 1992 american soft pr0n film, where young men from around the world come together to compete at the Top Stud academy training to be the finest studs in the world. Just before the completion of their training my the hot blonde bombshell Nelly McMuffins they are alerted of an arab warlords harem is on the radar and are flew out to use their new knowledge. - err actually i just made this up - err, making that sort of thing up is probably worse that watching it I imagine that that would be the best storyline for a pr0n film in years. I'm under the impression that there hasn't been such a film worth watching for the film (they used to actually make them as actual *films*, you see...) since the wonderfully titled Wanda Whips Wall Street. dha, who probably knows more about this than he should... -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "You can't give a 4 to truth." - Saul Williams
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Best use of a controversial prodigy track (smash my perl up)
Ooo, ooo, *have* to get that made into a t-shirt
but only if I name is right and spell it right (doh!)
On the front:
Smack My Perl Up
On the back:
use Inline;
Is this a joke about a joke about a joke?
Later.
Mark.
--
print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
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* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg McCarroll wrote: [1] chad is tom greene if i recall correctly, and i just discovered he has a series, does anyone know anything about this series? yes. And he was in Road Trip. Which was my favourite film of 2000. Simon [who's looking forward to "Dude, where's my car" alot any dates? -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
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Greg McCarroll wrote: [who's looking forward to "Dude, where's my car" alot any dates? Never according to IMDB http://us.imdb.com/ReleaseDates?0242423 Germany is around March. Probably out on DVD before then.
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On or about Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 04:44:20PM +, Mark Fowler typed: 4. Mission Impossible. Only if you don't know or didn't like the original - or if you can have your brain rewired so that you don't remember it. R
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On or about Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 05:06:15PM +, Mark Fowler typed: 4. Mission Impossible. Only if you don't know or didn't like the original - or if you can have your brain rewired so that you don't remember it. I think you're missing the point. M.I. is crap. Don't even get me started on M.I.2.. But you probably want to have seen it so that you can get references. Well, yes; but the thing is, while I might have enjoyed it as a crap action film, that was spoiled for me because I liked the original MI. I have no problem with crap action films. (Commando remains one of my favourites.) R
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On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: Where might be a good place to look for a copy of the film. U.H.F.? Simon has a copy off of TV which we could dub to a spare VHS tape. Wheel of Fish /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk |
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Simon Wistow wrote: Mark Fowler wrote: Right, that's it. I'm going to have to compile a list of films 6. Hudson Hawk. # ditto 7. UHF And, how can I forget 8. Buffy the Vampire Slayer
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 05:05:09PM +, Richard Clamp wrote: The original Mission Impossible series, though good when I saw it at the tender age of 14 is the dullest most pointless thing possible to watch. This is clearly a man who needs to see Mars Needs Women... dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Hello breasts! - subbes
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 05:13:25PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: Where might be a good place to look for a copy of the film. U.H.F.? Simon has a copy off of TV which we could dub to a spare VHS tape. A TV broadcast seems good enough, and well within the spirit of the film. I'd probably just digitise it (making Video CDs is a new hobby of mine), so it'd be better to borrow the master for a few days if I could... There's alway's blackstar's video hunt http://www.blackstar.co.uk/video/item/700015733 I decline to pay more than a tenner for a VHS tape these days, and Blackstar's service costs more than this before I've even paid for the tape... [And look, it says that people who bought it also bought Buffy. Is it hardwired or something?]
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 05:27:10PM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: Where might be a good place to look for a copy of the film. U.H.F.? Simon has a copy off of TV which we could dub to a spare VHS tape. Wheel of Fish SUPPLIES! dave, needs no stinking badgers either... -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ And you know, you can have all the good audio gear in the world, but unless you make a point of asking the informant to not eat a Snickers while he's talking, it's all for naught.- TorgoX, #perl
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From: Simon Wistow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 January 2001 17:26 Simon Wistow wrote: Mark Fowler wrote: Right, that's it. I'm going to have to compile a list of films 6. Hudson Hawk. # ditto 7. UHF And, how can I forget 8. Buffy the Vampire Slayer Ok. Let's be clear here. There is. No reason. On Earth. To watch. This film. It is very, very bad. Dave... The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 05:13:25PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: U.H.F.? Simon has a copy off of TV which we could dub to a spare VHS tape. There's alway's blackstar's video hunt http://www.blackstar.co.uk/video/item/700015733 Of course, were you to order now there'd be 16 people in front of you in the queue, and as we've only found 2 copies of it in 18 months you may be waiting a while :) Although, that's not to say we'll suddenly find about 200 in a warehouse somewhere like we did with Song of the South ... Tony -- - Tony Bowden | Belfast, NI | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.tmtm.com | www.blackstar.co.uk Sue sews crow's clothes. Slow Joe Crow sews whose clothes? Sue's clothes -
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 05:31:53PM +, Tony Bowden wrote: [...] You don't pay anything unless/until we find the tape I badly phrased it. What I meant is that if I were to use the service and you found a tape, the cost of the search service alone would exceed my upper price limit. After all, it's just a promising-sounding film, and not a film with a special meaning to me (which as it happens, /those/ special films are readily available on DVD).
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Peter Corlett wrote: (which as it happens, /those/ special films are readily available on DVD). And take full advantage of things like the multiple camera angles. I suspect the superior quality of a DVDs paused image and the fact that you can forward faster are also a help :)
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A TV broadcast seems good enough, and well within the spirit of the film. I'd probably just digitise it (making Video CDs is a new hobby of mine), so it'd be better to borrow the master for a few days if I could... Does anyone know if you can make VCD's under linux that I can play on my DVD player?
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 05:40:36PM +, Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [from my so-called signature] The information contained in this communication is snip Is there anything you can do about that? Eeeeugh! Working on it. I wasn't going to post at all, having realised earlier that Acxiom were doing bad stuff to the emails, but richardc started being rude about 2001 and I couldn't hold back... Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 06:03:25PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: Peter Corlett wrote: (which as it happens, /those/ special films are readily available on DVD). And take full advantage of things like the multiple camera angles. I suspect the superior quality of a DVDs paused image and the fact that you can forward faster are also a help :) G I didn't mean /that/ kind of "special" film... Just certain feel-good and insightful films.
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 06:15:24PM +, Redvers Davies wrote: A TV broadcast seems good enough, and well within the spirit of the film. I'd probably just digitise it (making Video CDs is a new hobby of mine), so it'd be better to borrow the master for a few days if I could... Does anyone know if you can make VCD's under linux that I can play on my DVD player? In theory, yes. However my cheap HP writer is acting up, and doesn't make as many coasters under Windoze, so I'm using that at the moment. I've got a tarball of Linux software you're welcome to play with if you want.
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* Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 2. Hackers. great great film , if anyone disagrees we'll send all our best viruses and worms at them! [err Mr NSA if your listening i'm using something us brits call sarcasm] 4. Mission Impossible. next youll be saying top gun is considered bad 5. Empire Records # not crap, but badly reviewed greet scene as the guy trys and explains why he took the kitty and gambled it in a casino -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
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* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Peter Corlett wrote: (which as it happens, /those/ special films are readily available on DVD). And take full advantage of things like the multiple camera angles. I suspect the superior quality of a DVDs paused image and the fact that and why exactly do you need a high quality paused image? tony - check his records, has he bought basic instinct recently? ;-) -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
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* Tony Bowden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 05:13:25PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: U.H.F.? Simon has a copy off of TV which we could dub to a spare VHS tape. There's alway's blackstar's video hunt http://www.blackstar.co.uk/video/item/700015733 Of course, were you to order now there'd be 16 people in front of you in the queue, and as we've only found 2 copies of it in 18 months you may be waiting a while :) check beano's in croydon, they can be quite good - also skoob do some rare tapes (in sicillian ave, next to pc bookshop) -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
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* dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Simon Wistow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 January 2001 17:26 Simon Wistow wrote: Mark Fowler wrote: Right, that's it. I'm going to have to compile a list of films 6. Hudson Hawk. # ditto 7. UHF And, how can I forget 8. Buffy the Vampire Slayer Ok. Let's be clear here. There is. No reason. On Earth. To watch. This film. donald sutherland's facial hair -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
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kung fu
laughs
cheesy moments
chad - wasn't the chad good, say the chad was good![1]
military helicopter
humour directed at programmers
great sound track
Piss takes of other movies that weren't blatant. The computer vault bit,
racing car standoff and the wire fight screens reminded me a bit of
Mission Impossible, Gone in 60 seconds and and the Matrix respectably.
Best use of a controversial prodigy track (smash my perl up)
[1] chad is tom greene if i recall correctly, and i just discovered he
has a series, does anyone know anything about this series?
It was on non-terrestrial TV about a year back IIRC. On MTV I think.
Later.
Mark.
--
print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name = 'Mark Fowler',Title = 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm = 'Profero Ltd',Web = 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone = '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
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On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:33:59AM -0500, David H. Adler wrote: Does "American Beauty" count for 2000, I can't remember seeing a better recent film, though I don't get to the cinema as much as I'd like to. Nope, that was 1999. Got lots of acadamy awards, too. Actually, it only went on general UK release in February 2000 ... Tony -- - Tony Bowden | Belfast, NI | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.tmtm.com | www.blackstar.co.uk bloody nose and burning eyes, raised in laughter to the skies -
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On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 05:14:44PM +, Tony Bowden wrote: On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:33:59AM -0500, David H. Adler wrote: Does "American Beauty" count for 2000, I can't remember seeing a better recent film, though I don't get to the cinema as much as I'd like to. Nope, that was 1999. Got lots of acadamy awards, too. Actually, it only went on general UK release in February 2000 ... Damn, you guys are slow... :-) dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "i don't play lead. it interferes with my drinking." - Malcolm Young
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On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 10:24:21AM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
has a series, does anyone know anything about this series?
It was on non-terrestrial TV about a year back IIRC. On MTV I think.
It's still on MTV. Tom Green is a sick fuck, BTW. Funny, though.
Ben
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Benjamin HolzmanECNvantage Corp.
Chief Technical Officer 295 Park Avenue S., Suite 7C
(212) 358-0436 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] New York, NY, 10010
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On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 07:35:00PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Benjamin Holzman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
It's still on MTV. Tom Green is a sick fuck, BTW. Funny, though.
ah, but i take it you mean MTV USA, not MTV Europe, personally i think
he is one of the funniest people i have ever seen - he reminds me of
robin williams before _he_ decided he could act
I've not gotten the impression I like him from anything other than
CA. Of course, the only other thing I really think I've seen him in
is the trailer for Road Trip...
Incidentally, he's about to marry Drew Barrymore.
dha
--
David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/
for (('to you', 'dear '.shift)[0,0,1,0]) { print "Happy birthday $_" }
- perl code for wishing someone a happy birthday
Courtesy of purl
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* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 07:35:00PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Benjamin Holzman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It's still on MTV. Tom Green is a sick fuck, BTW. Funny, though. ah, but i take it you mean MTV USA, not MTV Europe, personally i think he is one of the funniest people i have ever seen - he reminds me of robin williams before _he_ decided he could act I've not gotten the impression I like him from anything other than CA. Of course, the only other thing I really think I've seen him in is the trailer for Road Trip... Incidentally, he's about to marry Drew Barrymore. so the chad is good after all -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
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* Dean S Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Or on a CD bookshelf, that way they could leverage their back catalogue of stuff like Managing make/imake and bung those on it for i never thought the day i'd see a monger use a phrase like ``leverage their back catalogue'' i think this represents a paradigm shift for london.pm ;-) greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
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On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:18:02PM -, Frontier wrote: Does "American Beauty" count for 2000, I can't remember seeing a better recent film, though I don't get to the cinema as much as I'd like to. Nope, that was 1999. Got lots of acadamy awards, too. Charlie's Angels rocks. dave, has seen it 4 times. -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Tegan's always being posessed! She just wants attention. - Adric
Re: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, you wrote: Bull Think of it as proof of evolution, once you've spent some time on Win boxes you begin to need something like perl. And then you either learn perl and do pretty much everything with it or end up learning lots of different little niche technologies. After a few months of perling you end up with this burning desire to find out what this fork thing does and you install Linux/FreeBSD (I've not yet met a netBSD user.) and then you find that your amazingly simple package system has stopped working. I would suggest that anyone capable of installing Linux will have no bother at all typing $perl -MCPAN - e shell and then $install DBI how simple can it be? Also I've had mods fail under -MCPAN due to test errors but I've never had a ppm refuse to install for any reason. Active State used to require all modules to pass certain tests before they'd package them, don't know if this has anything to do with what they support under corporate contracts but it might be another reason. Sensible I have to disagree most strongly there .. i spent a good while bashing my head because they'd ported DBI::Proxy to the new 5.6 version of ppm .. but had not ported RPC::something that was a dependency. various fragments became available as ppm and promptly didnt work .. ISTR it being a major headache at the time. at the end of the day even if yer -MCPAN fails typing perl Makefile.PL/make/make install is not THAT hard .. this is programmers we are talking about here .. easy peasy n'est pas? so .. OK .. I'll grant you its useful (infact it rocks) as a windows port of perl .. the ppm thing is sorta OK .. I prefer to compile it myself if I can .. I have a copy of nmake and a suitaible compiler and it all seems to happen usually .. but for *nix I see it as a dangerous splintering .. theres already the defacto standard for *unix and you hope that it still works under ActiveState/Win32.. but are prepared to be disappointed (mainly because the OS is missing several major features) ... but I can't see any strong advantage to running it on *nix .. infact since every major *nix distro comes with Perl as standard the level of cluefulness required to install it is much greater than the level of cluefulness required to do the cpan thing, so I cant see the ease of ppm (which is no easier than the MCPAN thing imho) being a factor . just my 2 penneth. now .. how can I get it onto my lapto tha has no cdrom or network card? ... I see a very long 9600 baud call to demon ... :) -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
