Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Redvers Davies

> Morse Code, just to something that _looks_ like Morse Code.

I'm glad you said that cos when I was in the audience I couldn't match
up what I saw with what the program was (although I only got as far as 
character 3 so assumed there was some kind of preamble).  Mind you,
I only do 15-20wpm aural, barely 1wpm visual.



Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Matthew Robinson

At 06:10 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote:
>At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:58:55 +, Matthew Robinson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> At 05:29 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote:
>> >At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:13:30 +, Matthew Robinson
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> At 04:38 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >Oh, and I've had a quick look at Bleach.pm and Morse.pm and wish 
>> >> >to raise a bug against Morse.pm. It doesn't actually convert 
>> >> >stuff to Morse Code, just to something that _looks_ like Morse 
>> >> >Code.
>> >> 
>> >> Another bug,  when a script gets bleached anything preceding the 
>> >> use Bleach gets lost.
>> >> 
>> >>   #!/usr/bin/perl
>> >>   use Bleach;
>> >> 
>> >> becomes 
>> >> 
>> >>   use Bleach;
>> >> 
>> >> This is probably not a good thing.
>> >
>> >I wonder if this has anything to do with MacPerl not needing the
>> >shebang line?
>> 
>> I came to the same conclusion about MacPerl.  It was a simple fix.
>
>You will, of course, be submitting the patch to the author (who lurks
>on this list and will be expecting it :)
>
>Dave...
>
>

It has already gone...

Matt




Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Dave Cross

At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:58:55 +, Matthew Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> At 05:29 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:13:30 +, Matthew Robinson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> At 04:38 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Oh, and I've had a quick look at Bleach.pm and Morse.pm and wish 
> >> >to raise a bug against Morse.pm. It doesn't actually convert 
> >> >stuff to Morse Code, just to something that _looks_ like Morse 
> >> >Code.
> >> 
> >> Another bug,  when a script gets bleached anything preceding the 
> >> use Bleach gets lost.
> >> 
> >>#!/usr/bin/perl
> >>use Bleach;
> >> 
> >> becomes 
> >> 
> >>use Bleach;
> >> 
> >> This is probably not a good thing.
> >
> >I wonder if this has anything to do with MacPerl not needing the
> >shebang line?
> 
> I came to the same conclusion about MacPerl.  It was a simple fix.

You will, of course, be submitting the patch to the author (who lurks
on this list and will be expecting it :)

Dave...



Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Matthew Robinson

At 05:29 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote:
>At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:13:30 +, Matthew Robinson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> At 04:38 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote:
>> >
>> >Oh, and I've had a quick look at Bleach.pm and Morse.pm and wish to
>> >raise a bug against Morse.pm. It doesn't actually convert stuff to
>> >Morse Code, just to something that _looks_ like Morse Code.
>> 
>> Another bug,  when a script gets bleached anything preceding the use 
>> Bleach gets lost.
>> 
>>  #!/usr/bin/perl
>>  use Bleach;
>> 
>> becomes 
>> 
>>  use Bleach;
>> 
>> This is probably not a good thing.
>
>I wonder if this has anything to do with MacPerl not needing the
>shebang line?

I came to the same conclusion about MacPerl.  It was a simple fix.

>Dave...
>
>




Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Piers Cawley

Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 04:38:49AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> > p.s. And don't get me started on my nightmare journey. I thought that
> > all night buses went thru Trafalgar Sq - the N19 doesn't :(
> 
> Ugh.  At least I got on the right end of the train and ended upin
> Brighton...  I think that connex just split the trains in two just to
> confuse people. :-(

Well, I got home at 3am. Just missed the ~2200 train and the next one
was at 2325. And you can't go to sleep on a train when you're getting
off halfway through the journey...

-- 
Piers




Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell

On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 04:38:49AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> p.s. And don't get me started on my nightmare journey. I thought that
> all night buses went thru Trafalgar Sq - the N19 doesn't :(

Ugh.  At least I got on the right end of the train and ended upin
Brighton...  I think that connex just split the trains in two just to
confuse people. :-(

-Dom



Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Dave Cross

At Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:13:30 +, Matthew Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> At 04:38 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >Oh, and I've had a quick look at Bleach.pm and Morse.pm and wish to
> >raise a bug against Morse.pm. It doesn't actually convert stuff to
> >Morse Code, just to something that _looks_ like Morse Code.
> 
> Another bug,  when a script gets bleached anything preceding the use 
> Bleach gets lost.
> 
>   #!/usr/bin/perl
>   use Bleach;
> 
> becomes 
> 
>   use Bleach;
> 
> This is probably not a good thing.

I wonder if this has anything to do with MacPerl not needing the
shebang line?

Dave...



Re: Last Night

2001-02-27 Thread Matthew Robinson

At 04:38 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>So, was that fun or what?

Yep

>
>Oh, and I've had a quick look at Bleach.pm and Morse.pm and wish to
>raise a bug against Morse.pm. It doesn't actually convert stuff to
>Morse Code, just to something that _looks_ like Morse Code.

Another bug,  when a script gets bleached anything preceding the use Bleach
gets lost.

#!/usr/bin/perl
use Bleach;

becomes 

use Bleach;

This is probably not a good thing.

Matt

>
>See you Thursday,
>
>Dave...
>
>p.s. And don't get me started on my nightmare journey. I thought that
>all night buses went thru Trafalgar Sq - the N19 doesn't :(
>
>




Re: Last Night

2001-02-05 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 10:08:29AM -, Robert Shiels wrote:
> I've been there loads of times and a lot of the enjoyment comes from
> watching the faces of the uninitiated as they realise they have definitely
> come to the wrong place.

Gentlemen, start your noodles :-)

> Paul, why are you up at 4 in the morning ?

(I live in PST, so it's only 2am now :)

http://telematic.walkerart.org/ici/ -- lots of Shockwave
http://www.ici-exhibitions.org/Exhibitions/Telematic/telematic.htm -- HTML

I'm setting up their network & helping artists in SF Art
Institute. Three days left 'til the reception and some artists
still haven't finished their pieces yet, and I haven't finished
cabling... Some very cool stuff, stop by if you're in the area
(it's on tour for two years so pick a venue).


How do you force linux to assign ethN in a particular order, or are you
at the mercy of the PCI bus assignments (or whatever voodoo it do uses)?

perl -pi.oops -e 's/(?<=\beth)(\d)/1-$1/e' /etc/lrp-firewall/*.conf # :-)

It's time like that you can really make those pro-(!Perl) types weep.

(And don't say "just switch the cables round", :-P)


Paul



Re: Last Night

2001-02-05 Thread Robert Shiels

From: "Paul Makepeace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> It's cool because you end up sitting on the big table and
> meeting other people by 'accidently' lashing them with noodles.
>
> Paul (why should only children get to play with food?)

I think it's a case of knowing what to expect. If you expect quick, very
cheap food, that tastes OK then you are fine. If you want a romantic dinner
for 2, forget it and go to any of the other places 2 minutes walk away.
I've been there loads of times and a lot of the enjoyment comes from
watching the faces of the uninitiated as they realise they have definitely
come to the wrong place.

Paul, why are you up at 4 in the morning ?

/Robert




Re: Last Night

2001-02-05 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 09:15:07AM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
> They are not rude - its a lie.  The correct term I think is apathetic.

Funnily enough the times I've complained about the food they've done
something about it fairly promptly. Sure they tutted and rolled their
eyes but they did actually fix it.

It's cool because you end up sitting on the big table and
meeting other people by 'accidently' lashing them with noodles.

Paul (why should only children get to play with food?)



Re: Last Night

2001-02-05 Thread Redvers Davies

> Really? Mine says "Marvellously hostile staff", "rudest restaurant in
> the world", "madhouse", "the abuse gimmick". Golden Dragon all the
> way!

They are not rude - its a lie.  The correct term I think is apathetic.
However, don't expect eye contact while taking the order (they will be
watching other people while you talk to them).

Mind you, when you have a Wong Kei gold card (like myself) you get
a private table away from all the commoners - and the people will
actually talk to you.

Red




Re: Last Night

2001-02-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Dave Hodgkinson sent the following bits through the ether:
> 
> > Zagat rates the service as "legendary".
> 
> Really? Mine says "Marvellously hostile staff", "rudest restaurant in
> the world", "madhouse", "the abuse gimmick". Golden Dragon all the
> way!

OK, I was making it up, but I stand proudly, firmly corrected by
someone with the absolute truth.

-- 
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Re: Last Night

2001-02-03 Thread Leon Brocard

Dave Hodgkinson sent the following bits through the ether:

> Zagat rates the service as "legendary".

Really? Mine says "Marvellously hostile staff", "rudest restaurant in
the world", "madhouse", "the abuse gimmick". Golden Dragon all the
way!

Leon
-- 
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yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/

... The Wabbits is coming!



Re: Last Night

2001-02-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Redvers Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > > It took me 3 hours to get home :-(
> > 
> > It took me 2 hours (via Wong Kei, BBQ pork noodle soup, Hot Duck with
> > plum sause).
> 
> I'm more of a BBQ duck noodle soup and a plate of green vegetable in
> oyster sauce man myself. But Mmm... Wong Kei...

For anyone not familiar with Wong Kei, this is the place where several
of the staff were jailed for "clubbing the customers like seals", I
think the newspaper report went. Zagat rates the service as
"legendary".

On the upside, it can feed Piers to capacity and you'd still have
change from a fiver.

-- 
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Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star   http://www.deep-purple.com
  Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire
  -



Re: Last Night

2001-02-03 Thread Piers Cawley

Redvers Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > It took me 3 hours to get home :-(
> 
> It took me 2 hours (via Wong Kei, BBQ pork noodle soup, Hot Duck with
> plum sause).

I'm more of a BBQ duck noodle soup and a plate of green vegetable in
oyster sauce man myself. But Mmm... Wong Kei...

-- 
Piers




Re: Last Night

2001-02-02 Thread Redvers Davies

> plum sause).
s/ause/auce/ to work even, not home so its not the same so pretend I
didn't write this.





Re: Last Night

2001-02-02 Thread Redvers Davies

> It took me 3 hours to get home :-(

It took me 2 hours (via Wong Kei, BBQ pork noodle soup, Hot Duck with
plum sause).



Re: Last Night

2001-02-02 Thread Redvers Davies

> The TVRs were 34 quid each but had about 8 shots of vodka and 8 shots of
> tequila in and 6 cans of redbull.

Ok, I've heard of TVR's but yet to see one.  Would someone like to give me
an idea as to how many of these things are meant to be consumed by how many
people.

How is it presented?

The impression I get from above is thas it is 1 TVR per person, in a 4
pint pitcher to last all night.



Re: Last Night

2001-02-02 Thread Redvers Davies

> I'm going to find out if we can have the upstairs bar of the Albemarle on
> Dover St.  It's sufficiently small that we should be able to have it to
> ourselves, but sufficiently large that we won't be crowded.  They do good
> beer and I'm fairly certain they do food in the evenings.

I'm biased - that chops 20 mins off the journey time for me for parking.




Re: Last Night

2001-02-02 Thread Robert Shiels

> 
> I liked it because it only took 20 mins to get home :)
> 
It took me 3 hours to get home :-(

/Robert 




Re: Last Night

2001-02-02 Thread Simon Wistow

Alex Page wrote:
 
> It didn't seem too bad - my pints were 2.50 each, which for central London isn't 
>bad. There were certainly space issues, however.

Hmm. yeah. There was a bit of a mix up - I booked in advance and asked
for seating for 30 people but when I arrived they'd done standing space
for 30 instead. Which was a bit of an arse.

See the points people have with noise and smoke though.

The TVRs were 34 quid each but had about 8 shots of vodka and 8 shots of
tequila in and 6 cans of redbull.

Which is quite expensive but not *that* bad. 

I liked it because it only took 20 mins to get home :)



Re: Last Night

2001-02-02 Thread Alex Page

On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 05:43:27AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:

> I hope that everyone who turned up last night had a good time

Certainly did. Sorry I didn't get to meet many people or stay very long, but Thursday 
nights are notoriously busy for me.

> I'd be interested in any opinions that people had about the venue as
> I'm still looking for a new home for our social meetings.

It didn't seem too bad - my pints were 2.50 each, which for central London isn't bad. 
There were certainly space issues, however.

I quite fancy the idea of going to different pubs, rather than sticking to a "home", 
but I'm like that so feel free to ignore me :-)

Alex
-- 
"I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and you
 can have everything that you want." - Jareth, Labyrinth



Re: Last Night

2001-02-02 Thread Simon Wilcox

At 11:57 02/02/2001 +, Greg wrote:

>so all we need is a private room in a pub in central london that does
>food

Does EC2 count as central London ?

The White Hart in Clifton Street (near Liverpool Street station) has a 
private room that would be big enough.

They do food and as a plus point, it has it's own bar !

I'll check out costs etc if people are interested.

Simon.


-- 

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"The avalanche has started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote."
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Re: Last Night

2001-02-02 Thread Michael Stevens

On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 11:27:17AM +, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 05:43:27AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> > I hope that everyone who turned up last night had a good time - I 
> > certainly did (that may, of course, have something to do with the fact
> > that I was drinking for the first time for a month).
> > I'd be interested in any opinions that people had about the venue as
> > I'm still looking for a new home for our social meetings.
> I wasn't impressed.  It suffered from all the same problems as PO, but was
> even noisier.
> I'm going to find out if we can have the upstairs bar of the Albemarle on
> Dover St.  It's sufficiently small that we should be able to have it to
> ourselves, but sufficiently large that we won't be crowded.  They do good
> beer and I'm fairly certain they do food in the evenings.

And the TVRs weren't cheap.

Somewhere with decently priced food would be good.

Michael



Re: Last Night

2001-02-02 Thread David Cantrell

On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 05:43:27AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> I hope that everyone who turned up last night had a good time - I 
> certainly did (that may, of course, have something to do with the fact
> that I was drinking for the first time for a month).
> 
> I'd be interested in any opinions that people had about the venue as
> I'm still looking for a new home for our social meetings.

I wasn't impressed.  It suffered from all the same problems as PO, but was
even noisier.

I'm going to find out if we can have the upstairs bar of the Albemarle on
Dover St.  It's sufficiently small that we should be able to have it to
ourselves, but sufficiently large that we won't be crowded.  They do good
beer and I'm fairly certain they do food in the evenings.

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Re: Last Night

2001-02-02 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> I'd be interested in any opinions that people had about the venue as
> I'm still looking for a new home for our social meetings.
> 

I think the venue needs to 

* be quiet (no music)

* be a private room

* be not to smokey

* be near to central london and a tube station

* have food available

if we get a private room we can get 1 and 3

so all we need is a private room in a pub in central london that does
food

if we say that the worst turn up recently has been around 15 people we
are probably going to easily cover any minimum spend or a 30 quid room
charge

dave can mentioned somewhere and volunteered to be the next social
meeting organiser last night 

for the heretics meeting, it looks like the anchor and im going to see 
if can reserve a private nook in it

Greg 

ps it was a great meeting!

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net