Re: e-smith

2001-06-18 Thread David Cantrell

On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:12:33PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:

 Tangentially on-topic for this list because of skud's involvement...

What is this 'topic' of which you speak?

 I see that the new edtion of Linux Format comes with a copy of e-smith on
 the CD. According to the blurb, e-smith is a complete, easy to use and
 install server/gateway system that manages mail, firewalling,
 file-sharing, prinintg - everything you need from your server.

Bleah.

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Re: e-smith

2001-06-18 Thread Philip Newton

David Cantrell wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:12:33PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
 
  Tangentially on-topic for this list because of skud's involvement...
 
 What is this 'topic' of which you speak?

Something matching /^[fyreub ]+\z/i, I think.

Cheers,
Philip
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Re: e-smith

2001-06-18 Thread Neil Ford

On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:56:15PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:12:33PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
 
  I see that the new edtion of Linux Format comes with a copy of e-smith on
  the CD. According to the blurb, e-smith is a complete, easy to use and
  install server/gateway system that manages mail, firewalling,
  file-sharing, prinintg - everything you need from your server.
 
 Bleah.
 
Whilst it might not be what you're looking for, it is what any number of
small business are crying out for (even if they don't know it yet grin).

Now personally I'd rather hand build a box using FreeBSD but I can appreciate
someone having a go at producing a 'packaged' solution.

Once I have a spare box, I'll probably give e-smith a looksie, just to see
if it can teach me anything.

Neil.
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Re: e-smith

2001-06-18 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:12:33PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
 I see that the new edtion of Linux Format comes with a copy of e-smith on
 the CD. According to the blurb, e-smith is a complete, easy to use and
 install server/gateway system that manages mail, firewalling,
 file-sharing, prinintg - everything you need from your server.

Friend of mine recently launched http://www.rocksteady.com/

Paul



Re: e-smith

2001-06-18 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick

On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 04:29:31PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
 Once I have a spare box, I'll probably give e-smith a looksie, just to see
 if it can teach me anything.

Well, I can tell you now, from experience that the blackcat power cycler
works wonders, because I remembered (too late) that ipfw's default behaviour
is deny ip from any to any. So something that does the firewalling can
definitely be a good idea. :-)

MBM

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Re: e-smith

2001-06-18 Thread Kirrily Robert

In lists.community.perlmongers.london, you wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:12:33PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
 I see that the new edtion of Linux Format comes with a copy of e-smith on
 the CD. According to the blurb, e-smith is a complete, easy to use and
 install server/gateway system that manages mail, firewalling,
 file-sharing, prinintg - everything you need from your server.

Friend of mine recently launched http://www.rocksteady.com/

I only just got on this list, and should probably check the archives,
but I wanted to chime in for e-smith.

I work for them, and I chose to work for them because they have a bloody
nice product.  It's a slick little distro, built on lots of Perl, and
it's extensible and modular and geek-friendly under the hood, in ways
that most server appliances or similar distros aren't.  

I use it for my home network, and I'm slowly converting lots of my geek 
friends to it, and they seem to be pretty happy.  The point is: if you 
don't have to spend a day figuring out how to set up your cable modem, you 
have more time to hack on whatever it is that actually floats your
boat... in my case, Perl stuff.  (If setting up cable modems under Linux 
*is* what floats your boat, then more power to you, but this is not the 
case for most people.)

I'm speaking about it at YAPC::Europe but would also be happy to answer
any questions that anyone might have either on-list or privately.

K.

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