Re: previous jobs

2001-02-05 Thread Redvers Davies

> That's 'cause we have lousy dictators...

I think its cultural - and I think its a trend we are seeing all 
over the world.  The saddest manifestation of that I saw was with
GW Bush's inaugaration speech when he talked about improving schools,
improving this, doing that and lowering taxes.  Guess which of the
above got the only set of applause :/





Re: previous jobs

2001-02-05 Thread David H. Adler

On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 09:17:26AM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
> > Dammit, we are *not* third world!
> 
> Highest rate of child poverty in the developed world.  An estimated 40%
> of the population have no healthcare.

That's 'cause we have lousy dictators...

dha
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 - Mary Roth



Re: previous jobs

2001-02-05 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Redvers Davies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Dammit, we are *not* third world!
> 
> Highest rate of child poverty in the developed world.  An estimated 40%
> of the population have no healthcare.

where are you talking about Red, Indonesia? Ethyopia? China?

;-)

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: previous jobs

2001-02-05 Thread Redvers Davies

> Dammit, we are *not* third world!

Highest rate of child poverty in the developed world.  An estimated 40%
of the population have no healthcare.



Re: previous jobs

2001-02-04 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 10:22:26AM +, David Cantrell wrote:
> 
> Working on various defence projects for dodgy third world dictatorships
> (including Indonesia and the US)

Dammit, we are *not* third world!

dha

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Re: previous jobs

2001-02-01 Thread Mark Townsend


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From: "Chris Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: previous jobs


> > At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:44:28 +, Greg McCarroll
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?
>
> Depending on the meaning of cool ...
>
> * I spent 3 years in Iceland working in fish-factories & fishing boats.
>
I used to work in an offal processing yard.  The guts, heads, hooves, horns,
bowels, bladders and other bits of animal not fit for display in a butchers
windows are discarded by the abatoirs and sent for rendering to
fertiliser/cosmetic products or dried for use in pet food (that was before
someone spotted the market for using offal for livestock feed).

It was a lovely warm summer, high summer.  The offal and heads turned green
very quickly.   The bowls and bladders swelled and burst.

Come to think of it, dealing with the after effects of some-one elses
activity in a shambles was probably a good grounding for IT.
-- Mark T





Re: previous jobs

2001-02-01 Thread Chris Benson

> At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:44:28 +, Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?

Depending on the meaning of cool ...

* I spent 3 years in Iceland working in fish-factories & fishing boats.

The Artic Ocean is way cool!

The frystihus (freezer room) which I ended up in was usually kept at -40C.

... but I suppose you meant the other meaning of cool :-)

* Electric Hyster forklift trucks were pretty cool: you could do 
wonderful 4-wheel skids and sneak up on people without them hearing you!
-- 
Chris Benson



Re: previous jobs

2001-02-01 Thread Simon Wistow

Matthew Jones wrote:
> 
> >so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?
> 
> I walways had crappy non-IT jobs. The absolute worst was when I went to work
> in a plastics factory. As new boy, it fell to me to make sure that all the
> waste plastic was disposed of as efficiently as possible.

I worked as a handy man and barman for a sort of restaurant/bar/shop
complex in germany (like the Lassiters complex in Neighbours but without
the class). I got in at 8am and swept for an hour and a half and then
had to do things like clean the windows with washing up liquid and
kitchen towel. Then I had to clean the vans with tea towels and washing
up liquid. And no hose. In the time it took me it would ahve been far
more efficent to just drive it to the car wash. But by far the worst job
was cleaning out the grease traps in the kitchen which were big, heavy
and full and had to be carried down a long corridor (usually spilling a
fair whack over myself and the floor) and then taken outside and poured
into canisters (with no funnel, I improvised using newspaper) again
spilling copious quantities over myself and the floor. Then I had to
clean up all the oil that was lying around. I got home at 2pm and then
at 6:30 I went out again and worked as the barman until midnight/1am.
The clientele was mostly pissed squaddies. 

For this work I got the princley sum of 8 Marks an hour. Or 2 pounds 30.
However pints were 1 mar (about 3o p) each so I worked out that since I
could buy 8 pints an hour that was the equivalent of 16 quid which kept
me (sort of) sane. Mostly.



Re: previous jobs

2001-02-01 Thread David Cantrell

> >so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?

Being a bus conductor during the summer holidays when I was in the sixth
form was fun.

Working on various defence projects for dodgy third world dictatorships
(including Indonesia and the US) was not, but we had wonderful toys.  You
wouldn't believe how much pleasure can be gained from drop-testing
expensive hardware.

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Re: previous jobs

2001-02-01 Thread Neil Ford

>so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?
>
Operations Manager, Wizards of the Coast Limited

next best thing to being a crack dealer :-)

Neil.
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Re: previous jobs

2001-02-01 Thread Redvers Davies

> so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?

Security guard at a site which was under constant threat from animal
rights bombers.

> >with the name and we need to ``leverage'' it (sorry) now in
> >all aspects of the company, from sales/marketting to programming

Hmmm, skills...  A healthy paranoia of un-expected parcels and letters.




Re: previous jobs

2001-02-01 Thread Dave Cross

At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:44:28 +, Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?

I was the social secretary at City University for a year - 1981/2. Does 
that count?

Interesting stories that I can be persuaded to tell after a few beers:

1/ Turning down Culture Club because they'd never get anywhere.

2/ Also turning down China Crisis for the same reason (tho' I was
probably right there).

3/ Being threatened by Buster Bloodvessel of Bad Manners.

4/ Booking Toto Coelo and being accused of sexism by the London
Student newspaper.

5/ Booking Marillion just before they became really famous.

Probably some more that I'll remember later.

Dave...



RE: previous jobs

2001-02-01 Thread Matthew Jones

>so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?

I walways had crappy non-IT jobs. The absolute worst was when I went to work
in a plastics factory. As new boy, it fell to me to make sure that all the
waste plastic was disposed of as efficiently as possible. 

Translated, that meant dragging sack after sack of off-cuts to a large skip,
chucking them in, and then packing them down. i.e. fifty percent of my job
involved getting in the skip and jumping up and down on the rubbish.

Great at parties: 

"So, what do you do, then?"
"I jump up and down in a skip."
"Oh, hello Mr Icke!"

-- 
matt
you said it wasn't art, so now we're gonna rip you apart