Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??
On Fri Apr 6 07:12:33 2001, Andy Williams wrote: > > Just looking for a good book on Email I can across the review for > Programming Internet Email (Oreilly) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] He's probably lucky that he's wrong. His ISP, NTL, employ many professional Perl programmers to write Perl systems to supply idiots with email addresses. -- Marty PGP signature
Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:18:13PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:36:40AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Unfortunatly this is largely a valid point. Perl is not used by > > many *professional* people. Perl is used by a lot of people, and some of > > them are professional, but I wouldn't consider it the > > majority. > > A professional is someone with a profession. Chuckle. I think you are focusing on the definition rather than the sentiment. DWIM. There are an awful lot of people out there that download a MW script, change a few variables, and wack 'perl programmer' on their CV. I'd say 35-45% of CVs that are sent to me by recruitment agencies fall into this category, or perhaps a little more skilled. My point is that while just getting your job done to keep the boss happy is a valid use for Perl, I'd rather see someone who can get the job done in a manner that will let (you|me|us) maintain, extend, and understand the code that is written. It is a both a pity and a fact that these people are relatively few and far between. The guy's point may be uneducated but it isn't wrong just because (I|you|we) don't like the sentiment. --james. PGP signature
RE: Ummm... Perl not professional??
> I certainly don't consider myself "professional", even though I > try to ply my trade in what I believe to be a "professional" manner. "I'm not a professional, I'm a gifted amateur." The source of that escapes for the moment. -- matt "'scuse me trooper, will you be needing any packets today? hey, baby, don't be pulling on my socket, okay?"
Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:18:13PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:36:40AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Unfortunatly this is largely a valid point. Perl is not used by > > many *professional* people. Perl is used by a lot of people, and some of > > them are professional, but I wouldn't consider it the > > majority. > > A professional is someone with a profession. Indeed. How many computer professionals are out there? As opposed to cowboys of the Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert variety. I certainly don't consider myself "professional", even though I try to ply my trade in what I believe to be a "professional" manner. As a trade, we have a long way to go before we are as respected[1] as those in (say) accountancy, engineering and law. I leave it to yourselves to judge whether or not this is a Good Thing. -Dom [1] In some senses only, I assure you.
Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:36:40AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Unfortunatly this is largely a valid point. Perl is not used by > many *professional* people. Perl is used by a lot of people, and some of > them are professional, but I wouldn't consider it the > majority. A professional is someone with a profession. -- Dames lie about anything - just for practice. -Raymond Chandler
Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 07:12:33AM -0400, Andy Williams wrote: > > Just looking for a good book on Email I can across the review for > Programming Internet Email (Oreilly) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565924797/o/qid=986555353/sr=8-1/026-4687583-3140411 > > Comments? Unfortunatly this is largely a valid point. Perl is not used by many *professional* people. Perl is used by a lot of people, and some of them are professional, but I wouldn't consider it the majority. It is a shame. --james PGP signature
Re: Ummm... Perl not professional??
Andy Williams wrote: >Just looking for a good book on Email I can across the review for >Programming Internet Email (Oreilly) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565924797/o/qid=986555353/sr=8-1/026-4687583-3140411 > >Comments? Time to add chlorine to the gene pool. Ian _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
RE: Ummm... Perl not professional??
From: Andy Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 06 April 2001 12:13 > Just looking for a good book on Email I can across the review for > Programming Internet Email (Oreilly) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565924797/o/qid=986555353/sr=8-1/0 26-4687583-3140411 > > Comments? "not many professional developers use Perl and anyway it's only really useful on a UNIX platform" Typical FUD. He probably has never spoken to anyone who actually knows anything about Perl. I thought the book was really useful. Maybe I'll write a review to that effect. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Ummm... Perl not professional??
Just looking for a good book on Email I can across the review for Programming Internet Email (Oreilly) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565924797/o/qid=986555353/sr=8-1/026-4687583-3140411 Comments? Andy "Pub: ah, yes, a meeting place where people attempt to reach advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks"
