Re: dipsy's local version of WWW::Search::Google needs shipping

2001-09-19 Thread Jouke Visser
Briac Pilpre from Paris.pm also fixed the module, and sent his diff to the author, but the author didn't update the CPAN copy... Jouke On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 04:06:16PM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > To whomever made dipsy work for google... > > PLEASE contribute your changes back into t

Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?

2001-09-19 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:51:40AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > Is there an online email address validation CGI script? There is now, http://realprogrammers.com/cgi-bin/check_email_address.cgi It's not too quick on account of RFC::RFC822::Address using Parse::RecDescent, despite my best[1] eff

Re: "Invisible ink e-mails"

2001-09-19 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 05:51:34PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote: > Is anyone going to mention the gloriously mad Internet 2000 proposal > from everyone's favourite programmer kook djb? > http://cr.yp.to/im2000.html You may have, but it's a crazy idea, nonetheless. > Mind you, looking at it, people st

dipsy's local version of WWW::Search::Google needs shipping

2001-09-19 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
To whomever made dipsy work for google... PLEASE contribute your changes back into the CPAN. WWW::Search::Google in the CPAN desparately needs your patches. No fair bogarting the fix! -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www

Re: Can't remember where I saw this

2001-09-19 Thread Andrew Wilson
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:21:43PM +0200, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:47:41PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > > > I'm looking for a document that I read recently and can't remeber > > where I got it. It was collected wisdom for CPAN authors, things to > > consider when writing

Re: Headphones.

2001-09-19 Thread Jon Eyre
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: > The time has come for me finally to buy some new headphones[1]. > [1] I've run over the cable one to many times with the rolly chair > Suggestions? Cordless headphones? You can get a nice pair of Sony infrareds for ~UKP50 from argos. The transmitte

Re: Headphones.

2001-09-19 Thread alex
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, robin szemeti wrote: > Anyone playing music so loud in their headphones that others can hear > it above the office clatter is well on the way to ruining their > hearing. true, unless the headphones are open-backed. but if you those in an office the office the chatter will be

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Natalie Ford
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:11:07PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > For instance, balham might be a good place for a london.pm meet ;-) ...sounds good to me... :) -- Natalie Ford .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Can't remember where I saw this

2001-09-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:47:41PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > I'm looking for a document that I read recently and can't remeber > where I got it. It was collected wisdom for CPAN authors, things to > consider when writing modules. It _may_ have been compiled by Skud. > > Does any body have

Re: Can't remember where I saw this

2001-09-19 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:47:41PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > Hi > > I'm looking for a document that I read recently and can't remeber > where I got it. It was collected wisdom for CPAN authors, things to > consider when writing modules. It _may_ have been compiled by Skud. > > Does any bod

Can't remember where I saw this

2001-09-19 Thread Andrew Wilson
Hi I'm looking for a document that I read recently and can't remeber where I got it. It was collected wisdom for CPAN authors, things to consider when writing modules. It _may_ have been compiled by Skud. Does any body have any idea which docu,ment I'm talking about or where I could find a cop

Re: "Invisible ink e-mails"

2001-09-19 Thread Paul Mison
History fails to record who quoted: >> > Only a unique key from Omniva's server can encrypt the e-mail and the >> > recipient's e-mail program requests the key to decode the message. >> > When detonation time is reached, the key becomes void. Is anyone going to mention the gloriously mad Interne

Re: Headphones.

2001-09-19 Thread Sam Vilain
Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Erk! At 300usd I'd expect to be able to read my mail on them too! > Are there similar kinds of thing in the 0->60ukp mark[1] To my ears the Sony studio grade headphones sound very good, and should be well within that price range. Make sure the frequency

Re: "Invisible ink e-mails"

2001-09-19 Thread Andy Williams
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: > > Only a unique key from Omniva's server can encrypt the e-mail and the > > recipient's e-mail program requests the key to decode the message. > > When detonation time is reached, the key becomes void. > > How do you void the key? If I've decrypted the m

Re: Headphones.

2001-09-19 Thread Chris Carline
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 04:02:09PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: > > Erk! At 300usd I'd expect to be able to read my mail on them too! Apparently, they're as good as similar models priced at the 1000usd end of the spectrum, but at less than a third the price... 8) So arguably, they're *already* Ferr

Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?

2001-09-19 Thread Newton, Philip
Marty Pauley wrote: > There are already many hosts with the same name as a TLD. net.com > is one example. Traditionally speaking (AIUI), that's not a host name, but a domain name, under which hosts live (that is, hosts traditionally have a at least two dots in their name). However, now-a-days th

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Exactly. Can't think of any reason at all why anyone would object > to a meeting there. > > I put _myself_ out every month, trudging over the river _especially_ > to come to the meetings. It's time you all came to my side of > the river :) > What I `

Re: "Invisible ink e-mails"

2001-09-19 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 04:02:40PM +0100, Simon Batistoni wrote: > Damned if you do, damned if you don't, according to where you live. > In the US, you'll be locked up under the DMCA, but over here, thanks > to the wonders of RIPA, anyone holding an encrypted copy of a > message who is later unabl

Re: "Invisible ink e-mails"

2001-09-19 Thread Simon Batistoni
On 19/09/01 10:53 -0400, Alex Page wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:51:53PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: > > > How do you void the key? If I've decrypted the mail at some point I > > *have* the key (as I am clever and have hacked my client to save me a copy > > to disk) > > ...and been locked u

Re: Headphones.

2001-09-19 Thread Mark Fowler
Chris said > I have a pair of these and they're amazing. Unfortunately, they're a bit on > the steep side (around $300 iirc). Erk! At 300usd I'd expect to be able to read my mail on them too! Are there similar kinds of thing in the 0->60ukp mark[1] Later. Mark. [1] Yes, I know that's like sa

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Dave Cross
From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 9/19/01 3:11:07 PM >* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> >> South Londoner: 'oop north' -> anywhere the other side >> of the river. > > For instance, balham might be a good place for a > london.pm meet ;-) Exactly. Can't think of any reaso

Re: "Invisible ink e-mails"

2001-09-19 Thread Alex Page
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:51:53PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: > How do you void the key? If I've decrypted the mail at some point I > *have* the key (as I am clever and have hacked my client to save me a copy > to disk) ...and been locked up under the DMCA. Alex -- "Four pints of milk, a turke

Re: "Invisible ink e-mails"

2001-09-19 Thread Mark Fowler
> Only a unique key from Omniva's server can encrypt the e-mail and the > recipient's e-mail program requests the key to decode the message. > When detonation time is reached, the key becomes void. How do you void the key? If I've decrypted the mail at some point I *have* the key (as I am clever

Re: Headphones.

2001-09-19 Thread Chris Carline
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:07:55PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: > The time has come for me finally to buy some new headphones[1]. > Suggestions? I would recommend a pair of Etymotic ER4-S headphones: http://www.etymotic.com/ > a) comfortable > b) block out noise from all sources > c) don't s

Re: "Invisible ink e-mails"

2001-09-19 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 12:30:14AM +1000, Ian Brayshaw wrote: > In the lastest installment of IT fuckwittage, I now bring you ... > > 'Self destructing' emails developed I remember first seeing this at least 6 months and possibly a year ago. People haven't learnt anything since the discovery of

Re: "Invisible ink e-mails"

2001-09-19 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Ian Brayshaw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > In the lastest installment of IT fuckwittage, I now bring you ... > Is it just me, or are more and more people starting to lose the plot? Isn't it great? Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/

Re: "Invisible ink e-mails"

2001-09-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 12:30:14AM +1000, Ian Brayshaw wrote: > Anyone else thinking "Big Brother" (not the crappy TV show)? ... No, I'm thinking "binary attachment, return to sender with complaint". See also: Word Document. > Is it just me, or are more and more people starting to lose the plot?

"Invisible ink e-mails"

2001-09-19 Thread Ian Brayshaw
In the lastest installment of IT fuckwittage, I now bring you ... 'Self destructing' emails developed A US firm has developed software which enables e-mails to self-destruct after a certain period of time, leaving no trace in inboxes or servers. Omniva Policy Systems's electronic equivalent o

Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?

2001-09-19 Thread Marty Pauley
On Wed Sep 19 14:31:52 2001, Mark Fowler wrote: > Marty pontificated about: > > > Marty (pedantic) Pauley <(his)perl(mailbox)@(his domain called)kasei(under >the).com(tld)> > > Well, if we're going to be pedantic, don't you need a "." after the com in > order to really mean it's a tld. No. Ad

Re: tv

2001-09-19 Thread Tony Bowden
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 04:47:43PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > Now that unmissabletv.com has gone away, how do I get all the > terrestrial tv listings in one place on the web? > Suggestions on the back of an email... I'm quite fond of digiguide.co.uk myself. Web interface or Windows downloa

RE: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Chris Devers
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > From: Kate L Pugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Here is the streetmap arrow. > > > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=530778&Y=181722&A=Y > > Isn't that the place we went to after Damian's Q::S talk? If > not, it's very close to it. That place

Headphones.

2001-09-19 Thread Mark Fowler
The time has come for me finally to buy some new headphones[1]. Suggestions? I work in an office where we play music. Most of the time this is fine, but sometimes I want to live in my own little soundtracked worldand I don't want the music from the office intruding over the top of the quiet

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > South Londoner: 'oop north' -> anywhere the other side of the > river. > For instance, balham might be a good place for a london.pm meet ;-) -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:47:35PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > So I've now been told, 3 times, please read other replies before you post. Ooh! Bad mood today, eh? -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david If you save all your money for three years,

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:47:35PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > In which case Camden == NW1 is STILL CLOSE TO THE CENTRE. That doesn't stop it being Oop North. If "being close to somewhere not Oop North" is enough to classify something as being not Oop North then nowhere would be Oop No

Re: Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 06:24:48AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote: > > You forgot > > South Londoner: 'oop north' -> anywhere the other side of the > river. This discussion is reminding me of the time a friend of mine called me "provincial" because people who live in NYC tend to call anything more tha

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:40:28PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:20:50PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > > I disagree, oop north is way beyond kentish town > > camden NW*1* > > kentish town NW*3* > > note the low numbers they are lower the closer into the centre yo

Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?

2001-09-19 Thread Newton, Philip
Mark Fowler wrote: > Marty pontificated about: > > > Marty (pedantic) Pauley <(his)perl(mailbox)@(his domain > called)kasei(under the).com(tld)> > > Well, if we're going to be pedantic, don't you need a "." > after the com in order to really mean it's a tld. In DNS entries, yes. But RFC 2822

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:20:50PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > I disagree, oop north is way beyond kentish town > > camden NW*1* > kentish town NW*3* > > note the low numbers they are lower the closer into the centre you get. Not true. XX1 is always close to the centre, but the rest

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Paul Johnson wrote: > Southamptoners: 'oop north' -> 'Winchester, Basingstoke, Guildford' > (Anywhere you need to go through the Twyford gap to get to, although > it's not so bad since they cut a big hole through Twyford Down.) Portsmouth: 'oop north' -> used to be Petersfi

Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?

2001-09-19 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:31:52PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: > Marty pontificated about: > > Marty (pedantic) Pauley <(his)perl(mailbox)@(his domain called)kasei(under >the).com(tld)> > Well, if we're going to be pedantic, don't you need a "." after the com in > order to really mean it's a tld.

RE: Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Dave Cross
From: Matthew Byng-Maddick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 9/19/01 2:20:50 PM > note the low numbers they are lower the closer into the > centre you get. I would, however consider Finchley, > Barnet and Watford to be 'oop north'. This is, of course, nonsense. With the excection of '1', post codes i

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 06:25:56AM -0700, celia romaniuk wrote: > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > > camden NW*1* > > kentish town NW*3* > > note the low numbers they are lower the closer into the centre you get. > That's not strictly > true: c.f. http://www.brainstorm.co.uk/uti

Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?

2001-09-19 Thread Mark Fowler
Marty pontificated about: > Marty (pedantic) Pauley <(his)perl(mailbox)@(his domain called)kasei(under >the).com(tld)> Well, if we're going to be pedantic, don't you need a "." after the com in order to really mean it's a tld. One day I'm going to install a host called 'com' or 'org' and watch

Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?

2001-09-19 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:23:53PM +0100, Marty Pauley wrote: > On Wed Sep 19 10:34:47 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > > Email addresses are divided into a local part and a domain part, separated > > by an @ sign. The local-part and domain-part are themselves divided into > > one or more atoms

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:59:39PM +0100, robin szemeti wrote: > Most of populace: 'oop north' -> 'the north of england, lake district, > scottish borders' > > Scott: 'oop north' -> 'wester ross, cape wrath, ullapool and environs' > > Londoner: 'oop north' -> 'camden town, kentish town' (note

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread celia romaniuk
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > camden NW*1* > kentish town NW*3* > > note the low numbers they are lower the closer into the centre you get. That's not strictly true: c.f. http://www.brainstorm.co.uk/utils/PostLondon.html "For anyone who wondered about London postal distr

RE: Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Dave Cross
From: robin szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 9/19/01 1:59:39 PM >On Wednesday 19 September 2001 13:29, David Cantrell wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 12:31:16PM +0100, alex wrote: >> > has anyone suggested quinns yet? >> > >> > between kentish town and camden, excellent selection >> > of bee

Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?

2001-09-19 Thread Marty Pauley
On Wed Sep 19 10:34:47 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > Email addresses are divided into a local part and a domain part, separated > by an @ sign. The local-part and domain-part are themselves divided into > one or more atoms separated by '.'. Comments are enclosed in parens. Any > special char

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:59:39PM +0100, robin szemeti wrote: > Londoner: 'oop north' -> 'camden town, kentish town' (note map of the area > north of there simply marked 'Here Be Dragons!' I disagree, oop north is way beyond kentish town camden NW*1* kentish town NW*3* note the low numbers t

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 12:31:16PM +0100, alex wrote: > > has anyone suggested quinns yet? > > between kentish town and camden, excellent selection of beers from various > countries, inc non-pasteurised ones, large enough, friendly, nice. I've been there, it's quite nice. It's also Oop North a

Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?

2001-09-19 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 12:43:07PM +0100, robin szemeti wrote: > On Wednesday 19 September 2001 09:51, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > I've just been tracking down a horrid little what seems to me a bug: > > pipermail apparently can't correctly parse an email address such as > > Firstname I. <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread alex
has anyone suggested quinns yet? between kentish town and camden, excellent selection of beers from various countries, inc non-pasteurised ones, large enough, friendly, nice. alex -- "y0, I am in the desert"

Re: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Simon Wistow
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:43:39AM -0700, Dave Cross said: > Isn't that the place we went to after Damian's Q::S talk? If > not, it's very close to it. That place was nice, but very small[1]. > And it had a good Indian just over the road. No, that's the Dolphin Inn. It's one of my favourite pubs

RE: Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Dave Cross
From: Kate L Pugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 9/19/01 11:20:43 AM > Hello. > > Some of us are going to check out the Three Cups in > Holborn tonight, in the hope that it will be a Nice Pub > where we can have future social meets. We are planning to > get there at around 7pm. Please come and joi

Pub examination - Three Cups - tonight (Weds 19 Sept)

2001-09-19 Thread Kate L Pugh
Hello. Some of us are going to check out the Three Cups in Holborn tonight, in the hope that it will be a Nice Pub where we can have future social meets. We are planning to get there at around 7pm. Please come and join us if you are free. To get there, come out of the read-only exit from Holborn

Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?

2001-09-19 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:12:26AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:01:31AM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:51:40AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > I've just been tracking down a horrid little what seems to me a bug: > > > pipermail app

Re: tv

2001-09-19 Thread Robert Shiels
onthebox.com /Robert - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 4:47 PM Subject: tv > Now that unmissabletv.com has gone away, how do I get all the > terrestrial tv listings in one place on the web? > >

Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?

2001-09-19 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:01:31AM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:51:40AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > I've just been tracking down a horrid little what seems to me a bug: > > pipermail apparently can't correctly parse an email address such as > > Firstname I.

Re: Pipermail email address parse bug?

2001-09-19 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:51:40AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > I've just been tracking down a horrid little what seems to me a bug: > pipermail apparently can't correctly parse an email address such as > Firstname I. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, but can for "Fir..." <..>. Is ^

Re: Mail bounce, grumble grumble...

2001-09-19 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:14:07AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > Ah, well this would explain why mail I sent you last week bounced too. Quite possibly, I often notice when things do. I do have an exception list but I wanted to test out the hypothesis this time. The point is that either I have to dea

Pipermail email address parse bug?

2001-09-19 Thread Paul Makepeace
I've just been tracking down a horrid little what seems to me a bug: pipermail apparently can't correctly parse an email address such as Firstname I. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, but can for "Fir..." <..>. Is this a bug? Is there an online email address validation CGI script? (telnet localhost smtp thinks