On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 07:10:04PM +, Andy Wardley wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 05:36:33PM -, Ivor Williams wrote:
> > At one previous employer, I remember a few supposedly ergonomic keyboards
> > which were QWERTY, but split in the middle into two halves at an angle. I
> > found these
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 05:36:33PM -, Ivor Williams wrote:
> Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
>
[stuff about ergnomic keyboards]
>
> I am also looking to track down a contrasty PC keyboard - black keys
> labelled in white, or white keys labelled in black (as opposed to dark bro
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Robert Shiels wrote:
> > Must be the only Microsoft product I've ever recommended.
> I've heard and agree with a lot of bad things said about MS software, but MS
> make very good hardware IMO. I have 2 MS mice and an MS Sidewinder
> forcefeedback joystick. They are very soli
From: "Roger Burton West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 07:10:04PM +, Andy Wardley wrote:
> >The first Microsoft Natural Keyboard was typically broken in usual MS
> >fashion.
> >The second version a year or so later fixed this problem and is much
nicer
> >to use. Must be the
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 01:21:49PM -0600, Chris Devers wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, David Cantrell wrote:
> > > Because the Enter key tends to be a different shape?
> > How is it usually shaped on UK keyboards?
>
> Almost always a large backwards L
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 01:21:49PM -0600, Chris Devers wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, David Cantrell wrote:
> > Because the Enter key tends to be a different shape?
> How is it usually shaped on UK keyboards?
Almost always a large backwards L IME.
> The e
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 07:10:04PM +, Andy Wardley wrote:
>The first Microsoft Natural Keyboard was typically broken in usual MS
>fashion.
>[snip]
>The second version a year or so later fixed this problem and is much nicer
>to use. Must be the only Microsoft product I've ever recommended.
Y
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 05:53:33PM +, James A Duncan wrote:
> > [0] Oddly enough I prefer a UK layout if I'm writing copious
> > documentation, or perhaps even a piece of prose.
>
> Because the Enter key tends to be a different shape?
How is it
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 05:53:33PM +, James A Duncan wrote:
> [0] Oddly enough I prefer a UK layout if I'm writing copious
> documentation, or perhaps even a piece of prose.
Because the Enter key tends to be a different shape?
> If I'm writi
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 05:36:33PM -, Ivor Williams wrote:
> At one previous employer, I remember a few supposedly ergonomic keyboards
> which were QWERTY, but split in the middle into two halves at an angle. I
> found these keyboards impossible to use.
The first Microsoft Natural Keyboard w
From: "Ivor Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I am also looking to track down a contrasty PC keyboard - black keys
>labelled in white, or white keys labelled in black (as opposed to dark
brown
>keys labelled in light brown). Any ideas?
I picked up an old Fujitsu one at a computer fair a couple of y
Umm... yeah.
I'm interested... if there are a few other people also going.
Can people mail me off-list (my mail address is on
http://2799.org/) if they are interested, and let me
know *how* interested they are?
Tony
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On Wednesday, February 13, 2002, at 05:36 PM, Ivor Williams wrote:
> I am also looking to track down a contrasty PC keyboard - black keys
> labelled in white, or white keys labelled in black (as opposed to dark
> brown
I'd love to track down a translucent labelless keyboard. I can touch
type
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 05:36:33PM -, Ivor Williams wrote:
>
> I am also looking to track down a contrasty PC keyboard - black keys
> labelled in white
I found the kind of fluorescent lighting in most offices made the
keys difficult to read with this kind of keyboard. No, I don't have
to lo
Philip Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
> Especially since you *will* have to remain familiar with QWERTY as you
will
> have to use keyboards that are not your own at some point (typing on a
> co-worker's machine; on a computer whose keyboard driver isn't working; at
> an Internet café; wh
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:12:28 + (GMT)
Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The pm map is done by Leon Brocard. He's a the German Perl Workshop atm,
> (so will probably occasionally check his email, but not nearly as often as
> normally) so I'm not sure how quickly he can get back to yo
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 04:55:30PM +, Steve Mynott wrote:
>It was a Sinclair QL on steroids and was used in the 1980s by BT a bit
>(rebadged as a Merlin?)
Yup. Not an especially grunty machine even for the time, but it did have
that one fundamental good idea which has been ignored since.
R
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Tony Kennick wrote:
>
> I am trying to put together a map, similar to the pm map but
> with some differences.
> I have (or will have) two lists of postcodes from throughout the
> British Isles. WHat I would like to do is plot them on a map to
>
alex wrote:
> b) all the same, it takes considerable time+effort to switch
> from QWERTY to dvorak.
Especially since you *will* have to remain familiar with QWERTY as you will
have to use keyboards that are not your own at some point (typing on a
co-worker's machine; on a computer whose keyboard
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mike Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > We all know that the QWERTY keyboard was designed to slow us down
> I could swear I read somewhere that this was a UL, but I can't find a
> reference.
http://home.earthlink.net/~dcrehr/whyqwert.html
http://www.mit.edu:800
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:35:57 +0100, you ("Newton, Philip"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>For those who want a cheaper option,
>http://www.djh.de/jugendherbergen/muenchenneuhausen/ (in German) is a youth
>hostel which is located not too far from the conference: three stops by tube
>Have to be <= 26
Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anyone remember the ICL OPD? It solved these problems perfectly: instead
> of having big speakers and a stalk microphone, it came with a phone
> handset (which one could also use as a real phone, of course). Suddenly
> you could actually _use_ sound
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 04:16:31PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 02:40:17PM +, Chris Ball wrote:
> >Speech interfaces are a little
> >broken when you're either in a situation with lots of background noise
> >or want to do something without everyone around you knowin
Hi
I am trying to put together a map, similar to the pm map but
with some differences.
I have (or will have) two lists of postcodes from throughout the
British Isles. WHat I would like to do is plot them on a map to
show the difference in coverage. I have
this subject it is a strange meme zoo.
there's the meme that says QWERTY keyboards are designed to slow down
the typists to stop them from breaking mechanical typewriters. a
different flavour is that QWERTY keyboards are designed around more
general limitations of a mechanical typewriter. this
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 02:04:21PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Agenda Microwriter - alas no longer made but used a chording keyboard
> with a key resting under each finger of the right hand.
You can get the CyKey keyboard by itself these days:
http://www.bellaire.demon.co.uk/newcykey.h
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 02:40:17PM +, Chris Ball wrote:
>Speech interfaces are a little
>broken when you're either in a situation with lots of background noise
>or want to do something without everyone around you knowing what it is.
Anyone remember the ICL OPD? It solved these problems perfec
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Mark Fowler wrote:
> local $CPAN::Config->{make_args} =
>(exists $args{makepl_args}) ? $args{makepl_args} :
> $CPAN::Config->{makepl_args};
> local $CPAN::Config->{make_install_args} =
>(exists $args{makepl_args}) ? $args{m
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 01:54:58PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We all know that the QWERTY keyboard was designed to slow us down.
That's a myth. QWERTY was designed to speed us up by moving the typebars
for common letter sequences (e.g. TH) to different ends of the spread so
that they ja
On 13 Feb 2002, Mike Jarvis wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 08:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > We all know that the QWERTY keyboard was designed to slow us down
>
> I could swear I read somewhere that this was a UL, but I can't find a
> reference.
I always believed it to be true but maybe not.
On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 08:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've been sitting here watching random TV and watching with vauge facination
> a stenographer at work. A stenographer transcribes word for word the
> proceedings of courts, meetings etc...
>
> Made me wonder - what is the fastest method of
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 02:04:21PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Agenda Microwriter - alas no longer made but used a chording keyboard
> with a key resting under each finger of the right hand.
>
> I could get very close to real time 'speech' input in about three weeks
> but stopped using it
Chris Devers wrote:
> As for truly faster, speech-speed input -- how about a microphone?
Try visiting http://slashdot.org with voice recognition :-)
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> "David" == David Neal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
David> Agenda Microwriter - alas no longer made but used a chording
David> keyboard with a key resting under each finger of the right
David> hand.
I had one of those! The only words I remember how to chord are 'ill'
and 'jam',
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, nemesis wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Made me wonder - what is the fastest method of user input into a
> > computer.
> >
> > We all know that the QWERTY keyboard was designed to slow us down.
> > So, anyone know any good mechanisms which are designed to speed us
I'm trying to install modules from CPAN in an automated fashion. That is
to say, I'm tyring to download stuff and have it install from a script.
I'm wondering if anyone has any general advice. Currently I'm having
problems with perl core dumping, and I wondered if it's caused by me doing
any
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Vaugly off topic...
not for this list :-)
> Made me wonder - what is the fastest method of user input into a computer.
>
> We all know that the QWERTY keyboard was designed to slow us down. So,
> anyone know any good mechanisms which are designed to speed us up?
I t
Agenda Microwriter - alas no longer made but used a chording keyboard
with a key resting under each finger of the right hand.
I could get very close to real time 'speech' input in about three weeks
but stopped using it after that.
Still have, fully boxed, manuals, lovely bit of kit.
Dave
>
Vaugly off topic...
I've been sitting here watching random TV and watching with vauge facination
a stenographer at work. A stenographer transcribes word for word the
proceedings of courts, meetings etc...
Made me wonder - what is the fastest method of user input into a computer.
We all know th
When?
Well, today! Whenever, but I'll be there from 6.30pm ish
Where?
The Malbrough Head, Oxford Circus way
http://grault.net/cgi-bin/grubstreet.pl?Marlborough_Head,_W1Y_1WD
Reason?
Mr Simon Cozens is in town.
Who?
Him that does too much. lathos. http://use.perl.org/~simon
There's an emergency meeting tonight because Simon Cozens is in town and
he wants some booze, which is all the reson we need, really.
It's at the Marlborough Head, nearish Marble Arch, starting at, ooh,
about 6.30, I think. Those lovely grubstreet people have a page for it
on their wiki:
http://w
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 05:49:55PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> Is this Wed as in Feb 20th? Hope so, my American adventure Part I
> will've ended & I'll be back in the UK then (since this Friday)...
I'm afraid to say no, it's today, the 13th. The first post in this
thread happened last Tuesday
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