On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 11:43:47AM +0100, alex wrote:
> sqrt( (x0-x1)^2 + (y0-y1)^2 + (z0-z1)^2)
>
> so, in your particular example you could try a 26 dimensional space where
> each dimension is the frequency of a particular letter in the alphabet. if
I think you will find that thi
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 10:39:54PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
> This kind of stuff is incredibly simple to program[0], biologists have
> known it's how ants do it for years yet we still have crappy static
> routing tables.
Random is good if you are starting from a base of no knowledge. If,
howe
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
>
> Mtasty...
>
> http://www.it.Jobserve.com/jobserve/EmailJob.asp?jobid=3dJ8C4ABDBF27FE78B5
Then again...
"You must have worked for a company that is involved in Network Security,
preferably one that produces security products..."
Now that
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 10:13:20PM +0100, Shevek said:
> On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Nigel Hamilton wrote:
> You mean agent systems? agentlink.org or whatever, FIPA, the whole show
> like that.
Read 'Creation - Life and how to make it' by Steve Grand
(http://london.pm.org/reviews/create_life.html) and
Mtasty...
http://www.it.Jobserve.com/jobserve/EmailJob.asp?jobid=3dJ8C4ABDBF27FE78B5
> Simon Wistow exasperatedly wrote:
> > Hauling this whole thread back on topic for one, last, death rattle
> > attempt at bringing it back where I wanted to discuss -
> >
> > what I think si interesting is not only looking for recurring patterns
> > in programming but looking at problems in compu
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Nigel Hamilton wrote:
> It amazes me that no single ant has a blue print for what the Ant hill is
> going to look like ... But yet somehow they manage to work together to
> make a huge hill, with little passageways and storage rooms etc.
>
> Each ant's pattern of work blends
Simon Wistow exasperatedly wrote:
> Hauling this whole thread back on topic for one, last, death rattle
> attempt at bringing it back where I wanted to discuss -
>
> what I think si interesting is not only looking for recurring patterns
> in programming but looking at problems in computing as a w
> what I think si interesting is not only looking for recurring patterns
> in programming but looking at problems in computing as a whole (inodes,
> makefiles, process schedulers) and applying them on a microcosm or even
> on a microcosm. Or even more interesting - apply your learning to
> another
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 05:21:15PM +0100, Shevek said:
> I disagree entirely. This gives the impression that one should consciously
> code from the book.
Au Contraire. If you don't understand the pattern properly *then* you'd
be cut and pasting from the book. But sometimes it's just nice to
alre
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 04:34:56PM +0100, Nigel Wetters wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> > And anyway, in my day "pattern" was spelt "recipe" :-)
>
> Sort of. Patterns are small ideas. They work well in combination. Many
> recipes are larger, and solve whole problems.
I part
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Simon Wistow wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 04:34:56PM +0100, Nigel Wetters said:
> > I espouse them and use them. The target audience is all programmers, as
> > one of their aims is to provide a common language.
>
> As I understand it patterns in programming are for two r
> > Because come the day you want to plug in another machine, you won't have
> > to deal with the crawling horror that is the NAT implementation on most
> > ADSL 'routers'?
> >
> Thanks for all the help, but I think I'm now even more confused.
>
> I think I need an ADSL router (with built in fire
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 04:34:56PM +0100, Nigel Wetters said:
> I espouse them and use them. The target audience is all programmers, as
> one of their aims is to provide a common language.
As I understand it patterns in programming are for two reasons :
1. Don't reinvent the wheel.
Somebody el
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Paul Johnson wrote:
> For that matter, how much do people who espouse patterns conciously
> use them? Maybe expert, or even good programmers are not the target
> audience.
I espouse them and use them. The target audience is all programmers, as
one of their aims is to provide
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Barbie wrote:
> #print STDERR "return=[$session,".(join(",",@retvals))."]";
> With that said, why do I get the following error in the log file?
> Use of uninitialized value in join or string at
> c:/INetPub/wwwroot/elizium/cgi-bin/lib/Security.pm line 95.
You haven't got Apach
From: "Chris Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Lusercop wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 05:42:32PM +0100, Jon Reades wrote:
> > > I wish that Zen let you specify a number of IP addresses -- their
handy
> > > 'configurator' is smart enough to ask a few questions about what y
Although it was not my original intention to have everyone on the list receive a
registration code, I am not going to disable its use from this version of Perlidex.
However, I most likely will disable it from future uses of Perlidex.
I guess you could consider the version that you're using "Perl
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 03:24:36PM +0100, Leo Lapworth wrote:
> An upgrade from 1.3.22 to 1.3.26 fixed the problem.
What machines are these, can we r00t them via the chunked-encoding
vulnerability?
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From: "Rafiq Ismail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> You haven't got Apache::Registry caching your cgi's have you? Or it could
> be Mod_perl? Try a server restart or using StatINC if you're not on a
> production server. Shouldn't be making changes there though.
I restarted the server and started a new web
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:15:02 +0200 (CEST)
From: Rafiq Ismail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: London PM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: code evaluation in comment!
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Barbie wrote:
> #print STDERR "return=[$session,".(join(",",@retvals))."]";
> W
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 01:45:18PM +0100, Leo Lapworth wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 01:06:41PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> > Try ,
> >
> > RewriteLog /var/log/apache/rewrite.log
> > RewriteLogLevel 1
> >
> > And see if you can figure it out, perhaps with a higher LogLevel.
Well, even though the documentation says:
RewriteRule
Compatibility: Apache 1.2 (partially), Apache 1.3
An upgrade from 1.3.22 to 1.3.26 fixed the problem.
Now to go and install it on 4 other machines, this
time I think I'll use a debian package rather than
the source.. so that upgrading will b
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 01:45:18PM +0100, Leo Lapworth wrote:
> Everything is applied correctly, but the regex just doesn't seem to work!
It's RSE's code, don't expect it to work :-)
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Note the '#' at the beginning of the following line:
#print STDERR "return=[$session,".(join(",",@retvals))."]";
With that said, why do I get the following error in the log file?
Use of uninitialized value in join or string at
c:/INetPub/wwwroot/elizium/cgi-bin/lib/Security.pm line 95.
If I de
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Paul Golds wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 12:11:38PM +0100, Shevek wrote:
> > > d(x,y) = (x1 - y1)^2 + (x2 - y2)^2 + (x3 - y3)^2
> > The point being you don't need to square either, in which case you do get
>
> > a different ball.
>
> Surely you do need to square, or somet
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Paul Golds wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 12:11:38PM +0100, Shevek wrote:
> > > d(x,y) = (x1 - y1)^2 + (x2 - y2)^2 + (x3 - y3)^2
> > The point being you don't need to square either, in which case you do get
>
> > a different ball.
>
> Surely you do need to square, or somet
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 01:18:13PM +0100, Shevek wrote:
>
> Actually I was referring (with much gesticulation) to different metrics
> having different balls, but ... yes, in this case you are right.
>
> The point being you don't need to square either, in which case you do get
> a different ball.
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 01:06:41PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> Try ,
>
> RewriteLog /var/log/apache/rewrite.log
> RewriteLogLevel 1
>
> And see if you can figure it out, perhaps with a higher LogLevel.
> Generally I tend to use [PT] (pass-through) especially if there are
> con
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 12:11:38PM +0100, Shevek wrote:
> > d(x,y) = (x1 - y1)^2 + (x2 - y2)^2 + (x3 - y3)^2
> The point being you don't need to square either, in which case you do get
> a different ball.
Surely you do need to square, or something with a (for example) difference
of 10 on x, -10
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> Shevek said:
>
> > This is what TIEARRAY is for. It is purely, simply and totally an
> > iterator pattern.
>
> What? TIEARRAY was an iterator pattern before iterator patterns
> existed? How can that be?
Do abstract concepts "come into existence"?
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Ben wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 12:11:38PM +0100, Shevek wrote:
> > Metric space theory tells you that your distance computation is valid
> > whether you square or not. It's still a valid metric. The unit ball is a
> > slightly different shape ...
>
> Nonsense.
>
> d(
Shevek said:
> This is what TIEARRAY is for. It is purely, simply and totally an
> iterator pattern.
What? TIEARRAY was an iterator pattern before iterator patterns
existed? How can that be?
Actually, I'm not sure which one came first because I rarely use ties
and I don't think I've ever us
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 12:11:48PM +0100, Leo Lapworth wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Sorry about this...
>
> I'm trying to do a (very simple!) RewriteRule but
> it's not having any of it...
Unheard of! Everyone gets rewrite rules right the first time! :)
Try ,
RewriteLog /var/log/apache/rewr
> > Firstly, AI notwithstanding, this is going to be a heuristic fudgy mess.
> > Therefore you should not expect your solution to work reliably, and you
> > will need manual techniques for merging/cross-relating similar jokes.
>
> This is the classic search engine problem.
Well, sort of - search
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 12:21:26PM +0100, Ivor Williams wrote:
> Sounds an interesting project. Could have more applications than jokes.
> Jeeves with attitude?
Jeeves is a cheat.
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On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 12:11:38PM +0100, Shevek wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, alex wrote:
>
> > indeed - i seem to vaguely remember that i didn't use the sqrt in my
> > postal sector[0] comparisons (it was to calculate nearest specsavers
> > retail outlets to a postcode) and sql looked something
On Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:50 AM, Tim Sweetman
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> >
> > Hello again,
> >
> > I have a database (mySQL) full of variable length text fields (average
> > about
> > 1500 characters, 250 words). Curently there are about 250 fields, but I
> > hop
> > indeed - i seem to vaguely remember that i didn't use the sqrt in my
> > postal sector[0] comparisons (it was to calculate nearest specsavers
> > retail outlets to a postcode) and sql looked something like this:
>
> Metric space theory tells you that your distance computation is valid
> whet
Hi Guys,
Sorry about this...
I'm trying to do a (very simple!) RewriteRule but
it's not having any of it...
The Example in the docs shows:
RewriteRule ^/somepath(.*) /otherpath$1 [R]
for GET /somepath/pathinfo
In my VirtualHost I have:
RewriteRule ^/mag/(.*) /foxtons/magazines/cover_story/$
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, alex wrote:
> indeed - i seem to vaguely remember that i didn't use the sqrt in my
> postal sector[0] comparisons (it was to calculate nearest specsavers
> retail outlets to a postcode) and sql looked something like this:
Metric space theory tells you that your distance compu
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, alex wrote:
> so, in your particular example you could try a 26 dimensional space where
> each dimension is the frequency of a particular letter in the alphabet. if
This will fail for the same reason that this is a crappy hash algorithm.
All English sentences tend to have th
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Marty Pauley wrote:
> On Tue Oct 8 09:47:35 2002, Paul Mison wrote:
> > I believe -- and I was half paying attention to the talk, half
> > relaying it on IRC, which is Bad and Wrong and which I now Regret, so
> > don't be surprised if I've got this compeletly wrong -- that
ps a final refinement might be to weight each dimension by total
frequency of that letter in the jokes database. eg less frequent letters
like j or x contain more information than more frequent ones (eg the
vowels - s, r, t etc)
alex
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, nemesis wrote:
> alex wrote:
> > probabl
indeed - i seem to vaguely remember that i didn't use the sqrt in my
postal sector[0] comparisons (it was to calculate nearest specsavers
retail outlets to a postcode) and sql looked something like this:
SELECT *,((northing-?)*(northing-?))+((easting-?)*(easting-?)) AS
distance FROM posta
alex wrote:
> probably completely crap but following is an approach i have been thinking
> about for a while and have been looking for the right soft/textual dataset
> to try it out on.
Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I certainly have some more ideass to work on.
Will
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Barbie wrote:
> From: "Ivor Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Also, how
> > about covering Devel::ptkdb. This is a graphical Tk debugger, and very
> > handy for debugging cgi scripts (just alter the shebang line to add
> > -d:ptkdb. Even works on Windows).
>
> This I would li
On or about Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 11:43:47AM +0100, alex typed:
> b) find proximity by distance in the n-dimensional space.
> eg for a 3-d space you would use this formula:
>
> sqrt( (x0-x1)^2 + (y0-y1)^2 + (z0-z1)^2)
Remembering that if you just want "the X closest p
Simon Wistow wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 11:23:59AM +0100, nemesis said:
>
>>Alternatively I could generate some stats about every field as I entered it into
>>the database, ie number of words and a list of the most repeated words (minus
>>common words) and their frequency. Then I could c
nemesis wrote:
>
> Hello again,
>
> I have a database (mySQL) full of variable length text fields (average about
> 1500 characters, 250 words). Curently there are about 250 fields, but I hope
> this to expand to as many as possible (it is an online joke archive).
Well...
Firstly, AI notwiths
probably completely crap but following is an approach i have been thinking
about for a while and have been looking for the right soft/textual dataset
to try it out on.
the fundamental idea is:
a) map each instance into a point in n-dimensional space
b) find proximity by distanc
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 11:23:59AM +0100, nemesis said:
> Alternatively I could generate some stats about every field as I entered it into
> the database, ie number of words and a list of the most repeated words (minus
> common words) and their frequency. Then I could calculate similarity based
On Tue Oct 8 09:47:35 2002, Paul Mison wrote:
>
> I believe -- and I was half paying attention to the talk, half
> relaying it on IRC, which is Bad and Wrong and which I now Regret, so
> don't be surprised if I've got this compeletly wrong -- that mjd's
> point was not so much that the patter
From: "Ivor Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Also, how
> about covering Devel::ptkdb. This is a graphical Tk debugger, and very
> handy for debugging cgi scripts (just alter the shebang line to add
> -d:ptkdb. Even works on Windows).
This I would like to see. Haven't had a chance to try it yet, b
Hello again,
I have a database (mySQL) full of variable length text fields (average about
1500 characters, 250 words). Curently there are about 250 fields, but I hope
this to expand to as many as possible (it is an online joke archive).
I need to be able to check that when I add another field
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 11:08:01AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
[snip relevant bit about Moveable Type, that didn't happen mention which
language it is implemented in]
> Possibly if I mention Buffy, pies, monkeys dancing or beer this might
> slip through a few peoples's content filters.
But not
I've received an invitation to tender for a very nice job involving lots
of SMS messaging, about which I know very little but it has a lot of
potential so I'm really keen to have a go at it.
If anyone has commercial experience of such things and would like to work
with me on a pitch, and hope
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 09:47:35AM +0100, Paul Mison said:
> I know Simon will hate this, but a lot of blogs do this. Most blog
> engines are baked, but people want frying for stuff like 'what mp3 am
> I listening to', so they output (after each entry) a php or (much
> less commonly) TT templat
-Original Message-
From: Nicholas Clark [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 10:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Straw poll
And if a talk introducing the perl debugger were given at a YAPC, how many
people would think it worthy of going to?
[Ivor]
On 07/10/2002 at 14:05 -0700, Adam Goldstein wrote:
>Dear Mr. Mison,
>
> I am the developer of Perlidex, a program you seem to dislike.
> I was reading [the archives] and came accross your commentary.
> I would like to address your concerns.
[snipped some text, including useful feature enhance
On 07/10/2002 at 19:09 +0100, Shevek wrote:
>On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Simon Wistow wrote:
>
>> It has oft (http://perl.plover.com/yak/design/) been said that patterns
>> in the Gang of Four sense don't really apply to Perl.
>
>What fool said that? Of course they apply! Sure some of the strict typing
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Nicholas Clark wrote:
>
> If ${'no-one in particular'} did a talk (or tutorial) on advanced used of the
> perl debugger, how many people would think "bah. That's more advanced that I
> know about. I would have preferred it if he did an introduction to the perl
> debugger, as my
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