Re: PHP "community"

2013-01-17 Thread Simon Wistow
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:35:28AM +, Greg McCarroll said: > And that tradition has stuck and influenced LPW, and it isn't just for > moral reasons alone - if you run an event where nobody is profiting > you tend to get the goodwill of groups and people like Westminster > University (who hav

Re: PHP "community"

2013-01-17 Thread Simon Wilcox
On 17/01/2013 16:21, Jérôme Étévé wrote: On 17 January 2013 09:46, Simon Wilcox wrote: On 16/01/2013 15:08, gvim wrote: PHP UK (22nd Feb.): £380 London Perl Workshop: £0 'nuff said. Wow, perl is so unpopular they have to give away places to get people to a conference. or Wow, the demand f

Re: PHP "community"

2013-01-17 Thread Guinevere Nell
> > Having been part of the teams that organized the first YAPC::Europe and > first LPW there is a good reason for it being free or in the case of YAPC > as cheap as possible. Kevin Lenzo had done the first YAPC as an alternative > to expensive conferences, especially thinking of students and/or po

Re: PHP "community"

2013-01-17 Thread Matt Freake
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Jérôme Étévé wrote: > , Perl remaining significantly more popular than PHP on the > US job market. > I'm probably missing something (it's been a long day) but I don't really understand that graph. If I click on the 'Perl jobs' link it returns ~ 41,000 jobs and if

Re: PHP "community"

2013-01-17 Thread Jérôme Étévé
On 17 January 2013 09:46, Simon Wilcox wrote: > On 16/01/2013 15:08, gvim wrote: >> >> PHP UK (22nd Feb.): £380 >> London Perl Workshop: £0 >> >> 'nuff said. > > > Wow, perl is so unpopular they have to give away places to get people to a > conference. > > or > > Wow, the demand for PHP conference

Re: PHP "community"

2013-01-17 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:04:00AM +, Peter Corlett wrote: > On 16 Jan 2013, at 16:25, Daniel de Oliveira Mantovani > wrote: > > When you are dealing with dumb people like PHP dev's you can write > > whatever you want and do money, is like church. > This sentence no sense. It makes perfect s

Re: PHP "community"

2013-01-17 Thread Mike Whitaker
On 17 Jan 2013, at 11:04, Peter Corlett wrote: > > Sturgeon's Law applies to PHP and Perl developers alike. The only reason > you're seeing a lot of terrible PHP in the wild because it's a wildly popular > language with a low barrier to entry. Which latter is also true of Perl outside the echo

Re: PHP "community"

2013-01-17 Thread Abigail
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 03:08:39PM +, gvim wrote: > PHP UK (22nd Feb.): £380 > London Perl Workshop: £0 > With airfare, hotel and dinner, my visits to LWP can easily exceed 380 pounds. (Yeah, I know, it *can* be done in less) And for YAPC::* visits, conference fees are dwarved by transportat

Re: PHP "community"

2013-01-17 Thread Peter Corlett
On 16 Jan 2013, at 16:25, Daniel de Oliveira Mantovani wrote: [...] > When you are dealing with dumb people like PHP dev's you can write > whatever you want and do money, is like church. This sentence no sense. You appear to be attacking PHP developers. Sturgeon's Law applies to PHP and Perl d

Re: PHP "community"

2013-01-17 Thread Greg McCarroll
On 17 Jan 2013, at 09:57, Kieren Diment wrote: On 17/01/2013, at 2:08 AM, gvim wrote: PHP UK (22nd Feb.): £380 London Perl Workshop: £0 'nuff said. Apparently not. Having been part of the teams that organized the first YAPC::Europe and first LPW there is a good reason for it being free

Re: PHP "community"

2013-01-17 Thread Kieren Diment
On 17/01/2013, at 2:08 AM, gvim wrote: > PHP UK (22nd Feb.): £380 > London Perl Workshop: £0 > > 'nuff said. Apparently not.

Re: PHP "community"

2013-01-17 Thread Simon Wilcox
On 16/01/2013 15:08, gvim wrote: PHP UK (22nd Feb.): £380 London Perl Workshop: £0 'nuff said. Wow, perl is so unpopular they have to give away places to get people to a conference. or Wow, the demand for PHP conferences is so high people are willing to pay quite a lot to go. I have no