[Lsr] LSR IETF 108 agenda posted

2020-07-16 Thread Yingzhen Qu
Hi all, The draft agenda has been posted: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/108/materials/agenda-108-lsr-00.html Please let me know if you have any questions or if we missed anything. Presenters, We have a packed schedule, so please prepare your presentation accordingly. Please email me

Re: [Lsr] Request WG adoption of TTZ

2020-07-16 Thread Tianran Zhou
Thanks. I am really glad to understand the LSR chair's thoughts. Well OK. I understand LSR would like a high bar for IGP extension. But your comparison with " research WG or a technical journal " makes no sense. It's common sense. And your statement on the complexity twisted too many none

Re: [Lsr] Request WG adoption of TTZ

2020-07-16 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Huaimo - I am not going to comment on the history issues - though I understand why that is of significance to you. Otherwise, I don't think you are appreciating the key point many of us are making - which is that we do not need to introduce a new concept "zone" (subset of an area). It is

Re: [Lsr] Request WG adoption of TTZ

2020-07-16 Thread Huaimo Chen
Hi Acee, > Conversely, now that the IS-IS TTZ has adopted the Area Proxy mechanisms of > having an Area/Zone leader generate a single LSP representing the Area/Zone, > the two proposals are very similar. [HC]: It looks like the other way around. In 2013, IS-IS TTZ .00 draft describes the

[Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-igp-extensions-ifit-00.txt

2020-07-16 Thread wangyali
Dear LSR WG, We've uploaded a new revision of draft-wang-lsr-igp-extensions-ifit-00 to replace draft-wang-lsr-ifit-node-capability-advertisement. In this new revision, Node and Link Attribute TLVs are extended to IGP for signaling the supported IFIT capability of egress and/or intermediate

Re: [Lsr] Request WG adoption of TTZ

2020-07-16 Thread Christian Hopps
My comments about what the WG should be doing are "As WGChair", I'm not commenting directly on TTZ, but on the broader comments/questions below. > On Jul 16, 2020, at 6:19 AM, Tianran Zhou wrote: > > Hi Henk, > > Thanks very much for your long email. > I fully agree with what you said on the

Re: [Lsr] Request WG adoption of TTZ

2020-07-16 Thread Tianran Zhou
Hi Henk, Thanks very much for your long email. I fully agree with what you said on the criterion. This is generally always correct. But still you cannot score a draft with it. That means I can probably say most of the IETF RFCs has no use. I can also list one hundred RFCs that is not

Re: [Lsr] Request WG adoption of TTZ

2020-07-16 Thread Henk Smit
Hello Tianran, Warning, long email again. What's the criterion to evaluate the benefit? As people have asked before, did any provider or enterprise ever use rfc8099 in their network ? As I wrote, one of my criteria is rfc1925. I like technology to be understandable. I like protocols to be